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JohnLai
post Sep 7 2024, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Sep 7 2024, 09:53 PM)
Jangan fitnah wei. Tindakan kami murni...

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Habis, yang ARTSTATION tu apa cerita? Pandai-pandai dan sebarang saja block secare prejudis. Whatever happens to innocent until being proven guilty?
Cloudflare punya configuration Dashboard tu kena block apa cerita?

Pandai betul spin cerita.

Fact is, the DNS IP addresses are being hijacked. Pandai pula dia tulis "pengalihan DNS"........Rampasan IP DNS adalah.....
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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Sep 7 2024, 09:54 PM)
Means there are probably people in ISPs and TM especially who share the same interest as those in MCMC and govt.. That's why TM went the extra mile.

They really don't see the problem with what they are doing at all. And now that people are bringing up that there might actually a problem, the best way they see to get around it is to convince people that there is, indeed, no problem. No one attends their meet session, no problem lor. Proceed with hijacking DNS again.

I suspect some other powerful people in Cabinet are in on this as well (hint hint, those who have responded to media about the social media licensing and kill switch), so don't be surprised to see some law amendment that makes it legal for MCMC to order DNS hijacking or force everyone to use ISP DNS without public consultation in the near future.

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Probably in the future.

Right now, there is no such regulatory framework and act of law for such IP address hijacking.

There is no law to compel or force people to use ISPs or MCMC DNS either.

The artstation fiasco is a good example.
Artstation was blocked simply because someone filed a report against it. Moreover it is instruction of KPDN?
Even though artstation has mechanism for reporting and removal of copyrighted content, MCMC simply blanket block the entire website.

I thought for a website blocking to happen, one should obtain an injunction or court order to do so? A due process.
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post Sep 7 2024, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Sep 7 2024, 09:53 PM)
Jangan fitnah wei. Tindakan kami murni...

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it's just something for the mainstream news sources to report on and cite, saying hey MCMC says it's good!
of course, we know rhe motives behind it

Also, for anyone joining the event on Monday
please record/livestream it if possible

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post Sep 7 2024, 10:14 PM

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Hopefully, Lowyat TV can send reps to listen.
Even better if can video and post on YT. 😁
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Is it just me or I feel their media statement low key suggest they can haul you under MCMC Act for discussing this issue?

They brand all the concerns as maklumat palsu. So anyone talking about it must be straight up spreading fake news.

CleanBrowsing had a lot of good filtering, why kena ban hammer? It does everything this Fuckmee said.

Adguard and Control D block a lot of malicious and even spam, phishing domain too.

They did block Control D, just that Control D change IP address quick enough.
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post Sep 7 2024, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Sep 7 2024, 10:08 PM)
There is no law to compel or force people to use ISPs or MCMC DNS either.

The artstation fiasco is a good example.
Artstation was blocked simply because someone filed a report against it. Moreover it is instruction of KPDN?
Even though artstation has mechanism for reporting and removal of copyrighted content, MCMC simply blanket block the entire website.

I thought for a website blocking to happen, one should obtain an injunction or court order to do so? A due process.
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'It's the internet so just ban first'

Maybe the same goons who blanket banned Steam over one game the moment whichever minister ordered it about 8 years ago.

And this is why it's difficult to trust any government agency. Especially one that regulates internet usage.
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post Sep 7 2024, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(kwss @ Sep 7 2024, 10:17 PM)
Is it just me or I feel their media statement low key suggest they can haul you under MCMC Act for discussing this issue?

They brand all the concerns as maklumat palsu. So anyone talking about it must be straight up spreading fake news.
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Dakwaan palsu and dakwaan tidak tepat, so not quite the same I believe.

That is just 'false claims' and 'inaccurate claims'.
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post Sep 7 2024, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(kwss @ Sep 7 2024, 10:17 PM)
Is it just me or I feel their media statement low key suggest they can haul you under MCMC Act for discussing this issue?

They brand all the concerns as maklumat palsu. So anyone talking about it must be straight up spreading fake news.

CleanBrowsing had a lot of good filtering, why kena ban hammer? It does everything this Fuckmee said.

Adguard and Control D block a lot of malicious and even spam, phishing domain too.

They did block Control D, just that Control D change IP address quick enough.
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Not sure if they are still going for public consultation or witch hunt?

Maklumat palsu? We got lotta evidence online and real world, apa pula berita palsu. Even Fahmi himselves also replied about artstation block at twitter/x. The IP hijack affected Cloudflare Dashboard site too.

Under the presumption of innocence, the legal burden of proof is thus on the prosecution, which must present compelling evidence to the trier of fact.

https://family.cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query also got blocked yesterday.

The statement provided by MCMC doesn't seem to hold water.

Though I must correct my mistake of confusing the mcmc.redirect notation from some testing. Apparently the ISPs are hijacking the third party DNS IP address and redirecting the DNS request to their own DNS server instead of MCMC DNS (No such thing on MCMC DNS server).
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post Sep 7 2024, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Sep 7 2024, 10:27 PM)
Not sure if they are still going for public consultation or witch hunt?

Maklumat palsu? We got lotta evidence online and real world, apa pula berita palsu. Even Fahmi himselves also replied about artstation block at twitter/x. The IP hijack affected Cloudflare Dashboard site too.

Under the presumption of innocence, the legal burden of proof is thus on the prosecution, which must present compelling evidence to the trier of fact.

https://family.cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query also got blocked yesterday.

The statement provided by MCMC doesn't seem to hold water.

Though I must correct my mistake of confusing the mcmc.redirect notation from some testing. Apparently the ISPs are hijacking the third party DNS IP address and redirecting the DNS request to their own DNS server instead of MCMC DNS (No such thing on MCMC DNS server).
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they also hijacked CleanBrowsing
which, based on this post

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110385154

cleanbrowsing blocks the website
yet it is not blocked on tm dns

so again, 3rd parties will do a better job at filtering
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post Sep 7 2024, 10:33 PM

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https://www.lowyat.net/2024/331769/mcmc-we-...block-any-vpns/
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QUOTE(jusbella @ Sep 7 2024, 10:33 PM)
I have a feeling that they wouldn't stick to their words sooner or later...
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QUOTE(jusbella @ Sep 7 2024, 10:33 PM)
them intentionally saying this is worse than if they had no comment on VPNs


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QUOTE(Yuuyatails @ Sep 7 2024, 10:38 PM)
I have a feeling that they wouldn't stick to their words sooner or later...
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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Sep 7 2024, 10:39 PM)
them intentionally saying this is worse than if they had no comment on VPNs
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Let's see..
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post Sep 7 2024, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(jusbella @ Sep 7 2024, 10:33 PM)
Very convenient of them to slip it in and say BGP hijacking bukan sarahan I
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QUOTE(jusbella @ Sep 7 2024, 10:33 PM)
If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Sep 7 2024, 09:39 PM)
Not only from public people but from ISPs and corporations on technically issue/feasibilty etc as well.

Memang sengaja time the event so nobody is able to attend except their "own people".

The agency basically breaches their fiduciary duty.

Example : https://mcmc.gov.my/en/media/announcements/...essaging-servic

MCMC should have open up a public consultation with industry players (ISPs) and the public people like us before proceeding to instruct ISPs to hijack the IP addresses and redirected the hijacked IP addreseses to their own DNS servers.

Remember, the fact of the case, MCMC IS NOT BLOCKING DOH/DOT protocol, rather MCMC is INSTRUCTING ISPS TO HIJACK THE ALTERNATIVE DNS IP ADDRESSES AND REDIRECT DNS REQUEST TO MCMC DNS SERVER.

What act of laws and regulatory framework gave MCMC the power to do so?
MCMC has power to request ISPs to block site via DNS server belonging to local ISPs, but what gave them the power to instruct ISPs to hijack and redirect the DNS request to other provider DNS server?

ISPs punya lawyers pun satu.......takde yang soal ke?
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Yea its terang lagi bersuluh that they making this in a bad faith.

Not Saturday, Not sunday, not 2PM, Not 8 PM...
Exactly the time where the type of people that have vested interest in this unfucking this fuckup can't leave their workplace.

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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Sep 7 2024, 10:55 PM)
Yea its terang lagi bersuluh that they making this in a bad faith.

Not Saturday, Not sunday, not 2PM, Not 8 PM...
Exactly the time where the type of people that have vested interest in this unfucking this fuckup can't leave their workplace.
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I have meeting and deliverables on Monday. They make this announcement on a weekend.
Even if I want to go tibai them, I need to cancel all existing plan.
Say I really can make it there to tibai them, what is going to be the expected outcome?

End of day I will stick to my plan to not make myself looks like a clown.
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post Sep 7 2024, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(aniq8676 @ Sep 7 2024, 09:10 PM)
When someone asked about the DNS issue,
their response
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110410164 - It seems TM Unifi has finally implemented, transparent DNS proxy
QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 6 2024, 11:36 PM)
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Officially, it was TM Unfi Fibre who unilaterally imposed additional DoH and DoT hijacking of the common Public DNS servers, eg Google8888, Cloudflare1111 and Quad9999, 2 days ago, not MCMC, who only mandated/ordered the ISPs to impose Tansparent DNS Proxy blocking, as per .......

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...roviders/146480 - 2024 Aug 9 - MCMC responds to allegations of DNS tampering by Malaysian internet service providers
KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 9 — The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) has issued a statement following recent reports that Malaysian internet service providers (ISP) had quietly forced all internet traffic to their local DNS servers. As reported earlier, several ISPs have implemented Transparent DNS Proxy, which prevents Malaysian users from accessing blocked sites even if they use alternative DNS such as Google Public DNS and Cloudflare. ...

Following the report by Sinar Project, we verified the claims by testing several blocked websites on several ISPs while using Google and Cloudflare DNS. We noticed that the forced redirection to local DNS was in effect for Time, Maxis, U Mobile, CelcomDigi and Unifi. ....


It's likely that TM Unifi Fibre has realized their mistake and inadvertent negative impact on many businesses/enterprises = undo their DoH/DoT hijacking.

In the first place, why did TM Unifi Fibre did all that and U-Turned, when the other ISPs did not.?, ie imposed DoH/DoT hijacking.
....... Will TM Unifi Fibre do it again by a certain date after informing all their Business subscribers of their intention to impose DoH/DoT hijacking.?

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P S - This reminds me of the Crowdstrike fiasco.
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Sep 7 2024, 12:32 AM)
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CHRONOLOGY: .......

- since PM6 Najib era - MCMC mandated all the ISPs to block blacklisted or undesirable (eg prawn) websites through their DNS servers which are the default DNS servers for their subscribers. This blocking could be bypassed by tech-savvy subscribers manually selecting their own Public DNS server, either in their OS or browser Setting, eg Google8888, Cloudflare1111, etc. Alternately tech-savvy subscribers could encrypt their DNS traffic by manually selecting Secure DNS (= DoH or DNS over HTTPS) for privacy and security purposes. ISPs can't see encrypted/Secure Public DNS servers.
....... IT admins could even set up their own Secure Private DNS server.

- Early Aug 2024 - PMX's MCMC quietly mandated all the ISPs to impose Transparent DNS Proxy blocking (= DNS blocking) to stop subscribers from using their own (unencrypted) common Public DNS server, eg Google8888, Cloudflare1111, etc. DoH and DoT (= DNS over TLS) were unaffected by this type of blocking. Eg .......
https://imap.sinarproject.org/news/internet...lic-dns-servers - Internet Censorship Update: Transparent DNS Proxy Implemented by Malaysian ISPs on Cloudflare and Google Public DNS Servers
Transparent DNS Proxy Implemented by Malaysian ISPs on Cloudflare and Google Public DNS Servers
6th August 2024 - how to bypass the blocking with DoH


- 2 days ago - TM Unifi Fibre quietly started to impose additional (IP) blocking by hijacking the IP addresses of the commonly used encrypted/Secure Public DNS servers of DoH and DoT, eg Google8888, Cloudflare1111, Quad9999 and Adguard. This was done by TM region by region starting with Klang Valley. Yesterday night, more regions were affected. This sudden move by TM negatively affected many Business subscribers who employ tech-savvy IT admins, eg to secure their DNS servers with DoH or DoT from Cloudflare1111.

- Last night, ie around 10.30pm Friday 06 Sep, TM U-Turned and undid their additional IP blocking of the common Public DNS servers of DoH and DoT. ....
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MCMC ordered TM to U-turn or undo their IP blocking.?
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post Sep 7 2024, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 7 2024, 11:02 PM)
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=110405280 - It seems TM Unifi has finally implemented, transparent DNS proxy
MCMC ordered TM  to U-turn or undo their IP blocking.?
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I don't think so. TM way of blocking created a lot of collateral damage.
MCMC now wash hands and say they never tell TM to do BGP hijacking.
I don't know is it TM act smart or MCMC hang them out.
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This madani government will pay.


Hope people won't forget during the next GE.


Even if they reverse this move, it's time to rise up and fight tyranny and dictatorship.

Fack Mi the tyrant can start counting the number of days he have left on his glass throne.


Don't play with the internet and freedom of information.


Any ISP colluding with the government needs ultimate boikot from the people

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