i wouldnt say it's impressive....but it's good....but it's priced more that originally anticipated.....

I'm not sure anyone has posted this .. but this is really gonna turn most 2900XT user down with slight improvement only ..

however the heat issue does make a lot of difference this round..

but too bad stupid ATI still decided to use their reference cooler used on 2900XT which is a screamer of all time .. at least for me .. especially when it spin passing 40% ...

AA meanz Anti Aliasing..which meanz reducing the sharp of edge of the image.

Most likely silent than r600 reference cooler. Not much cooling needed for rv670, dual slot is to reduce the acoustic level. They can go for single slot just like the g92.

I think it's the same from the photo of the card ... I don't think they would invest money to built another one since this could work fine according to their standard.

Probably it's more silent coz the card produce less heat so the fan won't spin up high ...

I've always being let down with stock cooler produced by ATI, none of them are known for cool and quiet ..

NV 8800 series is a better one .. have to admit even though I'm a ATI fan boy .. 2 NV card VS 6 ATI card used draw the conclusion.

you all guys~ do u all know the tester was CF with one 3870 + one 3850...?Go to that forum and read all posts...
is it a new function for new 38xx series card or is one of a function of crossfireX?

And i have to said that..3D06 marks=116xx is a good result at Vista dy...btw 88GT scored 124xx on same platform:lol:

But 3870 and 3850 are less heat and noise compare to 88GT...and their OC ability seem not bad...hope the price be reasonable~

is $269USD reasonable?

I believe it's quite resonable if it's suppose to go against the 8800GT segment.

So wut u consider reasonable? 2400Pro 256MB 64bit? High-End going sub RM1k still reasonable, wut u expect ?

This post has been edited by zeustronic: Nov 10 2007, 11:07 PM

no dude that was false
the 8800gt scores on that scores when u overclock it and on xp

it perform almost the same as 8800GT but dont knwo in game how?
btw,8800GT cheaper.

MSRP of this card is 220-250USD.

This is just pre-sale scalping. (just like what you guys kena )

wot~~ power draw only at 34w idle for 3870...
thats cool man

dude u think u better check the prices
i already got the prices from all Ati partners
its more expensive than the 8800gt with no game bundle whatsoever.

its better u actually check the prices instead of hoping on the inquirer and some weird postings on some websites...

so far the 8800gt was sold lower than the MRSP when u see the OEM prices of those cards.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Nov 11 2007, 04:02 AM

If ATI 38xx is going to be more expensive than the 8800GT, how to compete?

They are supposed to price lower than the 8800GT, if what cstkl1 said is true, then i guess Ati will have some hard time. I was hoping for the 3870 to drop within the sub RM800 range...looks like i'll be disappointed again. Btw, Gigabyte seems to have a reference card of theirs for the 3850 which runs on Zalman coolers, that might solve the noise issue for the standard reference Ati cooler, but 66c overclocked and 30c idle, that seems to be very interesting...

u mean the 88GT 124xx scored was OCed and on XP?
or u mean the tester's platform was XP?
check the print screen carefully...it was on vista ultimate...

Well duh, PRE-SALE. The card hasn't launched yet.
Wait until after November 16 I think, there will be vendors that go according to MSRP.

For Malaysia it'll need a little longer because the of the retarded scalping acts. But it won't be as serious as the 8800GT.


For what I know 3850 would be in plentiful stock so no price hikes, yay. 3870 you should wait for the stock overclock versions that make it perform closer to the 8800GTs.
3850 256MB has double ++ the performance of 8600GTS for about RM150 more.

Put 2 (512MB 3850s) in Crossfire and they will be slightly more expensive than a GT or a GTS New, but in crossfire games, definite win. They won't be that noisy nor hot too.

This post has been edited by X.E.D: Nov 11 2007, 07:37 AM

no point arguing... wait for their respective official launch...
i got high hopes for AMD though... it seems tat they concentrate on their GC more than their procs...

Considering the Sapphire 2900XT, a card that takes at least double the $$$ to make in terms of pricing, is now 280USD (official)...

Blatantly obvious.