wao , this thread so quite , dont like that G92 thread , damn hot! now !

I'm LOLing. So the 8800GT is "cheap" and this isn't?

The Rm750 tip is pretty accurate for the 3850. Everything in Malaysia is more expensive (especially nVidia cards) so:

RM800 for a 3850 is reasonable. Should even be 512MB.
3870 should touch RM1000 (GDDR3), RM1200 (GDDR4, and super cooler)

Remember, these graphics cards are cheaper to produce than X1950 PROs.
Yes, cheaaapeeeeer. A LOT cheaper. Cheap. Get the idea?

(Now, let's see the nTards start spouting crap on ATI being "cheap". )

you mean can't sli pcie 2.0 vga on pcie 1.0 and pcie 1.1 mobo? already got review bout 8800gt sli and it work, and so far no nvidia mobo support pcie 2.0 
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/468/
it the price tag remain usd199 for hd3870 aka r6700 with 512mb ddr4 it a gud price, but still lose to 8800gt in term of performance. and bout single or double slot fan, if serious gamer and overclocker they will cahnge to after market heatsink fan.. btw r670 based on 55nm architecture, it should be cold and why need double slot cooler... that kinda joke

AMD HD3800 pricing shock follows down-clock call

Clock brings pricing down



AMD HOSTED a bunch of NDA press briefings last week in Munich, Milano, London. Since the INQ is traditionally not invited to NDA bashes, we were left out in the cold.

This is what AMD has in store, as far as graphics is concerned.

Phenom pricing details were disclosed earlier by no other than AMD's master distributor, an ASBIS spin-off called ISA Hardware. The 790FX is not interesting since it is already selling in stores.

The interesting part is Daamit's answer to Nvidia's GeForce 8800GT and revamped GTS, the Radeons HD 3850, 3870 and 3870 X2 (R680).

The R680 is the only part planned for next year (January), but we would not be surprised if it appears as a Yuletide present to the hardware community.

The HD 3850 will exist primarily as a 256MB part, while the 3870 will bring 512MB to the table. Some 3850 parts may come with 512MB and some 3870 parts with 1GB of memory -for 20 and 50 USD/EUR above current asking price.

Pricing for both launch parts is very aggressive, and AMD claims it is all due to 55nm process working like a clockwork and achieving excellent yields. Radeon HD 3850 should retail for between $149 to 179 (USD), while 3870 should be between 200 to 230. This is brilliant pricing, going way below 8800GT.

The real truth is that AMD started running into clocking walls (with a selected heatsink-fan combo) and again decided to crash the prices instead of gunning for a better cooling setup that will enable those 800 MHz+ clocks we saw earlier in development.

AMD is touting DirectX 10.1, UVD and PowerPlay checkbox features as key features for selling the RV670 chips.

It remains to be seen why AMD clocked down the parts, so that performance parity with 8800GT is established. Whoever is on Nvidia's or Intel's payrole inside AMD, we have to congratulate that person on a job well done.

This is what will sell as Radeon HD 3850:

* 55nm RV670PRO GPU at 668 MHz (why not 666?)
* 256MB GDDR3 memory at 828 MHz DDR (1.66 GT(/s)
* 10.69 GPixel/s fillrate
* 52.99 GB/s memory bandwidth
* 320 Unified Stream Processors
* 24x Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing support
* ATI Avivo HD
* ATI PowerPlay power saving technology
* Game Physics processing capability (this belongs to fairy tale land, but you know - marketing...)
* HDMI support

As far as higher performing part, the 3870 is considered, specs are following:

* 55nm RV670XT GPU clocked to 775 MHz
* 512MB GDDR4 memory clocked at 1.2 GHz DDR (2.4 GT/s)
* 12.40 GPixel/s fill-rate
* 76.80 GB/s memory bandwidth
* 320 Unified Stream Processors
* 24x Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing support
* 55nm process
* ATI Avivo HD
* ATI PowerPlay power saving technology
* Game Physics processing capability
* HDMI support

These will go on sale on November 19th or a little bit earlier. µ


http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/05/amd-hd3800-pricing-shock

normally shop will quote on the high price for coming product in order to avoid any dispute from customer
i believe when the 3870 arrive it will be around 1k region

Nvidia going to release 256MB 8800GT version which should be priced around $160-$180.

is the HD3870 really gonna be cheaper than 8800GT>.?

well, i have the chinese version here 
http://news.mydrivers.com/1/94/94524.htm

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Added on November 10, 2007, 12:23 ampreliminary benchie of HD 3870 ...



source from VR-Zone

Some OC results on 3870 from our VR Folks.



Source : http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=202510&page=4

Also,

3870 priced at $269.

you all guys~ do u all know the tester was CF with one 3870 + one 3850...?Go to that forum and read all posts...
is it a new function for new 38xx series card or is one of a function of crossfireX?

And i have to said that..3D06 marks=116xx is a good result at Vista dy...btw 88GT scored 124xx on same platform:lol:

But 3870 and 3850 are less heat and noise compare to 88GT...and their OC ability seem not bad...hope the price be reasonable~

RM659! apa lg, cross fire la

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/553390

some already sell it on lyn

lol . we should thanks to ATI for giving us cheaper card with decents performance . if ATI dint push out new series , the nvidia still continuce selling 8800gts for over 1.2k . GT not even released .
and we still have to pay over 1k for a good GC .

thanks ATI or AMD lol   

i'm very surprised tat HD3870 priced lower than 2900xt...`
tat's same as the gt with gts...

950!!!!! for asus brand.. is good man..`
u can expect lower price for other brands.. as asus often priced higher..`

for ati probably sapphire is a better choice than asus....

currently 3870 is way expensive than the cheapest 88gt i can find

some shop quoted me 88gt for 860, n another place 3870 for 1099

but ati official pricing puts it cheaper then 88gt... so i gues retailers are making huge profits over this hot parts now..