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 Is it the end for partition units?, Anyone heard more?

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DragonReine
post Aug 16 2023, 05:27 PM

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It's rather telling that many posts are accusing the new rules as "elitists destroying livelihood" instead of acknowledging that such properties are 1) overpriced/future priced because of the bullish sentiment artificially inflated by partitioning and 2) young people are in fact struggling to rent rooms BECAUSE of poor wages, not "lack of cheap rooms" per se 😴



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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 16 2023, 05:03 PM)
Of course there’s always going to be people flouting the rules but the point of such a strong statement to denounce the act is that people will stop posting proudly on social media. Co-living companies and property gurus won’t advertise openly and of course JMB will have to respond if neighbours complain that this is going on.

The fact that they have to sneak around to do it is the point and they can’t do it openly. Quite sad we can’t self regulate and need harsh punishment to learn any sort of lesson. Sounds like we need a PAP or CCP to really get anyone to follow any sort of rules.
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Aha here lies the essence, we do need a pap or ccp, why? That’s coz we are not a society that has already fulfilled many of its hierarchy of needs. Why am I going to bother what next door did with his reno when I have so much going on my plate? I need to be working most of the time just to put food on the table, until at least few generations later, we do need to be governed by a stricter central authority.
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post Aug 16 2023, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Aug 16 2023, 03:58 PM)
You must be living in another dimension or living in denial as Dbkl has issue circulation illegal erected partition for bedrooms is not legal.
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lol ok, i guess u reli are at another dimension, when did i say partition is legal? lol... in fact i very supportive of gov enacting this act, please do it to the whole country too... then u drag those ttdi shits come pulak... lol...

i even say without partition, the room renting is still better option because of the room demand in KV is ever growing... room rental price sure will get higher if the enforcement is done well, im all hand and legs for it... places like RC residence may not be ok, but good location sure can command higher rental after all the partition demolished... but i guest u too fire-blinded with those partition rooms issue lol biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Aug 16 2023, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Aug 16 2023, 05:27 PM)
It's rather telling that many posts are accusing the new rules as "elitists destroying livelihood" instead of acknowledging that such properties are 1) overpriced/future priced because of the bullish sentiment artificially inflated by partitioning and 2) young people are in fact struggling to rent rooms BECAUSE of poor wages, not "lack of cheap rooms" per se 😴
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its good to legalize and normalize this part of the market also, so we can see what is the room rental market by then.... now all just keep on debating but no one know what is the real impact anyway
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post Aug 16 2023, 05:50 PM

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Good to hear this.
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 16 2023, 05:03 PM)
Of course there’s always going to be people flouting the rules but the point of such a strong statement to denounce the act is that people will stop posting proudly on social media. Co-living companies and property gurus won’t advertise openly and of course JMB will have to respond if neighbours complain that this is going on.

The fact that they have to sneak around to do it is the point and they can’t do it openly. Quite sad we can’t self regulate and need harsh punishment to learn any sort of lesson. Sounds like we need a PAP or CCP to really get anyone to follow any sort of rules.
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malaysian need communist ruling only will improve... after became leading country, switch it back to democracy lol
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post Aug 16 2023, 06:48 PM

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don't bring the issue to FB, challenge DBKL in court.
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post Aug 16 2023, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Aug 16 2023, 05:27 PM)
It's rather telling that many posts are accusing the new rules as "elitists destroying livelihood" instead of acknowledging that such properties are 1) overpriced/future priced because of the bullish sentiment artificially inflated by partitioning and 2) young people are in fact struggling to rent rooms BECAUSE of poor wages, not "lack of cheap rooms" per se 😴
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Aug 16 2023, 06:48 PM)
don't bring the issue to FB, challenge DBKL in court.
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post Aug 17 2023, 08:19 AM

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solving issue by creating another issue
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QUOTE(rumahwip @ Aug 17 2023, 08:19 AM)
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You are referring to the ruling or the fb posting above (post #148)?

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post Aug 17 2023, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 16 2023, 09:09 PM)

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The picture she linked is exactly why it’s all gone to hell. The only way to get what they want is that the developers build it outright like Berjaya with their 900 sqft 5 bed/4 bath. Taking matters into your own hands means that it’s too hard to regulate so might as well ban all. No sympathy Miss Chong, go fly kite.

There are plenty of options still. Tenants just have to be not lazy and find a group of like minded people to rent a place like what your elders had to do.
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post Aug 17 2023, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 17 2023, 09:54 AM)
The picture she linked is exactly why it’s all gone to hell. The only way to get what they want is that the developers build it outright like Berjaya with their 900 sqft 5 bed/4 bath. Taking matters into your own hands means that it’s too hard to regulate so might as well ban all. No sympathy Miss Chong, go fly kite.

There are plenty of options still. Tenants just have to be not lazy and find a group of like minded people to rent a place like what your elders had to do.
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so if you need to rent a room to rent now, you will be the leader to lead and to group up the bunch of like minded to rent together?
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post Aug 17 2023, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 17 2023, 09:58 AM)
so if you need to rent a room to rent now, you will be the leader to lead and to group up the bunch of like minded to rent together?
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This is what young adults have been doing all their life. Arguably it’s even easier nowadays with digital and social media. If someone was truly altruistic, they would build a platform to connect tenants. This is common in UK, US etc.

Wetopia etc have the capabilities to do so but don’t know how to monetise it beyond blocking off your living room and being the unit supplier. If you’re smart, you’d meld it with a Tinder component so u got all your “needs” taken care of. That enough of an idea for you? Prude stay sama prude, DTF stay with likeminded.

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 16 2023, 09:09 PM)

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Wetopia ni bangang ke apa? I live in KL, beli whole rumawip bayar around the same price as their medium room.
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All Rumawip is in KL area and connected to LRT tapi macam babi cakap 'forced to downgrade' when they charge full house price for a room.


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post Aug 17 2023, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(emino @ Aug 17 2023, 10:14 AM)
Wetopia ni bangang ke apa? I live in KL, beli whole rumawip bayar around the same price as their medium room.
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All Rumawip is in KL area and connected to LRT tapi macam babi cakap 'forced to downgrade' when they charge full house price for a room.
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If one is renting, one always have the option not to choose the one that comes with high price. No one put a gun on one's head to rent. One can choose a further away, spending more time and transport fees which is cheaper or go rent at those low cost apartment. This is a free market.
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post Aug 17 2023, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 17 2023, 10:05 AM)
This is what young adults have been doing all their life. Arguably it’s even easier nowadays with digital and social media. If someone was truly altruistic, they would build a platform to connect tenants. This is common in UK, US etc.

Wetopia etc have the capabilities to do so but don’t know how to monetise it beyond blocking off your living room and being the unit supplier. If you’re smart, you’d meld it with a Tinder component so u got all your “needs” taken care of. That enough of an idea for you? Prude stay sama prude, DTF stay with likeminded.
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i did it bro during my college time and i swear i would never do it again in my life even if i need a room now... lol... all the blaming, demands and problem solving, its not worth it at all, try do it on your own a few times, you will know talk is easy than doing it... lol... and imagine being the leader of that co-living doesn't come with any additional perks other than more works and the rental saving from it doesn't worth any shit...
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post Aug 17 2023, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(emino @ Aug 17 2023, 10:14 AM)
Wetopia ni bangang ke apa? I live in KL, beli whole rumawip bayar around the same price as their medium room.
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All Rumawip is in KL area and connected to LRT tapi macam babi cakap 'forced to downgrade' when they charge full house price for a room.
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supply and demand bro, u bought a house = commitment + reno cost, u rent a FF room = no commitment, tak leh bayar balik kampung stay only... no ccriss ctos bank shit chasing u... lol
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post Aug 17 2023, 10:49 AM

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I reckoned no-partitioned room is a good move. Haters sure have many things to blow out.

There are plenty of room renting without partitioned and rental below rm600 for medium room some even master room. Of course the room not fancy as Wetopia.








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post Aug 17 2023, 10:54 AM

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Aiya, Wetopia/Utopia etc. which are "organised" partitioned room managers would obviously have a biased view on things la

Rulings like these will severely eat their slice of the market share pie since they're middlemen charging management fees etc to profit off homeowners and tenants alike.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 17 2023, 10:33 AM)
supply and demand bro, u bought a house = commitment + reno cost, u rent a FF room = no commitment, tak leh bayar balik kampung stay only... no ccriss ctos bank shit chasing u... lol
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My problem is dia guna the word downgrade, as if paying double the amount I pay for a house to live in master bedroom is such a premium lifestyle.

Orang macam dia like to merendah2kan PPR and RumaWip, as if their exploitative alternative are way more attractive lol.

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