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 Is it the end for partition units?, Anyone heard more?

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aaron1717
post Aug 10 2023, 09:38 AM

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alot of bumi interest in this issue too thanks to 'you shall not be name' guru... need to see how the government manage to handle this carefully... lol... but i think enforcement will on a complaint basis, operators who go on and add more than 1 partition room in a condo unit will most probably higher risk of getting complaint...
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post Aug 10 2023, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 10 2023, 09:57 AM)
Partitioning will slow down evacuation during a fire.

All these fucking property gurus are mostly conmen. They are telling the people to break the laws because of gomen weak enforcement.

End of the day, who suffers? The owners and tenants.
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if no tenant renting those partition room.. no demand then you think ppl will waste money to do it ma? there are always both side to every matter...
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post Aug 10 2023, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 10 2023, 09:55 AM)
Hai for people who are more concerned about the hereafter, they sure are capitalistic. Be nice to your Karen’s, I know for one if I see it I will make noise unless I’m suitably buttered up with bottles of wine.
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well its true that every legal enforcement in Malaysia, you have take care of the welfare of all the parties, as your votes dependent on that... lol... just like the baby seat legal enforcement issue, now the police also dont give a damn... hahahaha
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post Aug 10 2023, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 10 2023, 10:53 AM)
There will be always people looking to rent cheap rooms in the city and owners and gurus took advantage of the situation by breaking the laws. Now the laws are coming to bite them in the ass. So, do u think the gurus will take responsibility? Of course not otherwise how do they cari makan?
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well to be fair, its the owners' own choice.. you have to be responsible on your own choice on your own asset.. guru guide you, you can choose not to listen... there is no gun pointing to your head to do it hahahaha
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post Aug 10 2023, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Aug 10 2023, 11:19 AM)
All house or building plan need approval from Bomba and all relevant departments, right? So far it was not enforced to ensure safety like house renovation.
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its partition board, alot of owners can argue its temporary structure, bomba have no rights in interfering with temporary structure in the unit itself... i can partition up a big ass glass door and wall in my own unit and which act saying that I cant do so in my own unit? i think that will be argument
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post Aug 10 2023, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 10 2023, 01:39 PM)
One can argue but unlikely to win in court.
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i heard previously a few cases they won using this reason, not sure how true is it... especially the 'you shall not be name' gang...
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post Aug 10 2023, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(hcstwb @ Aug 10 2023, 03:33 PM)
That's the problem with our law,  "look more cramped" is very subjective, that gives room for ppl to challenge the enforcement
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its more on the number of persons in the unit rather than the partition issue, partition is bomba punya issue already...
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post Aug 11 2023, 09:33 AM

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post Aug 11 2023, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Aug 11 2023, 09:38 AM)
Hope this ruling comes with enforcement. Penalty, seal the premise, make good before release back to owner.
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this is malaysia dei.... lol
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post Aug 16 2023, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(gks @ Aug 13 2023, 03:01 PM)
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fb...mibextid=Nif5oz

Please tell me how room rate will go up without house partitioned?

The extra income from the partitioned room goes to pocket of operators and greedy owners with blatant ignorance and total lack of respect to local regulations.
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different location will have different demand on the room pricing, a non partition unit in lavile, master room can go up to 1200-1300, small and medium room at average of 750-950... it depends on how well equip the FF unit is provided... nowadays room rental already gone past your knowledge/experience during your college era...
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post Aug 16 2023, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(gks @ Aug 16 2023, 11:44 AM)
Regulations means for blanket and equitable for all people. Owners cannot justify by going to cut and dice a property to make it more affordable to tenants. It will not be fair to the neighbours who are own stayers and buy a luxury condo and expect it to exclusive.
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yeap, partition is not right, but running co-living without partition unit is not anyway breaking any rules... the room rental market in general will increase in price due to this partition issue as room demand is increasing every year... modern white collars also majority renting room until they get marry and start a family....
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post Aug 16 2023, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Aug 16 2023, 12:07 PM)
Fair statement sublet is not illegal.

But to be honest if partitioned is not legal, most owners that plan to do sublet will not do so because it is no longer profitable. They can try to increase room rate but trust me they will not able to do as tenants have so much accomodation options in KL.

To put it succinctly, owners bought property at worng price and wrong objective resorted to sublet and partitioned. This group of owners probably just 0.1% of total owners. So would it be fair to 99.9% of owners out there who buy a property with right objective.i.e. own stay?

Local authority (DBKL) has to put their foot on this otherwise this minority will think it is their birth right to break a law.
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like i said, good location not that much options... for example pinnacle sri petaling, the room demand ever growing, master and second master room itself give you 2k rental already, still have medium and small room to give u the additional bonus... same applies to aster now, room demand more than supply... the room rental there is asking for some luxurious pricing... like taruc setapak, only pv9 can command higher rental room price, the rest further away have to accept whatever they can pay
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post Aug 16 2023, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Aug 16 2023, 01:54 PM)
Everyone has to follow law.

So you are implying it is ok to break law so that cost can be reduced? Or matter of safety to be compromised?

So it is ok for Malton to build 20k affordable units in Taman Rimba Kiara so that more people can live in prime TTDI?
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well is it really breaking the law bro? or its your morality code? differentiate this two thing yo... lol... government approved those project constructions, so what law has been broke? hmm.gif hmm.gif like the PV Mira case, law has been broke, hence the project cannot goes on, that is breaking the law...
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post Aug 16 2023, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Aug 16 2023, 02:40 PM)
i think you are the one confuse.. for both,,, law is broken..... but i get it. those who affected will always try to twist facts.
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lol bro, if the government already approved a project and gave a go ahead on the construction, what law has been broken? i dont understand the confusion in this... gov approved = compliance to law and regulation until proven otherwise no?

dont talk to me about those corruption or hanky panky things in behind of those deals, those info/actions are not what we normal citizen can control nor can easily get the accurate info...
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post Aug 16 2023, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Aug 16 2023, 03:41 PM)
Court has ruled it is illegal approval unless you and i are living in different dimension.
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yea bro, what i mean is to the RC residence post you quoted to in your original post, im not saying the pv mira or your ttdi shits... lol
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post Aug 16 2023, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Aug 16 2023, 03:58 PM)
You must be living in another dimension or living in denial as Dbkl has issue circulation illegal erected partition for bedrooms is not legal.
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lol ok, i guess u reli are at another dimension, when did i say partition is legal? lol... in fact i very supportive of gov enacting this act, please do it to the whole country too... then u drag those ttdi shits come pulak... lol...

i even say without partition, the room renting is still better option because of the room demand in KV is ever growing... room rental price sure will get higher if the enforcement is done well, im all hand and legs for it... places like RC residence may not be ok, but good location sure can command higher rental after all the partition demolished... but i guest u too fire-blinded with those partition rooms issue lol biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Aug 16 2023, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Aug 16 2023, 05:27 PM)
It's rather telling that many posts are accusing the new rules as "elitists destroying livelihood" instead of acknowledging that such properties are 1) overpriced/future priced because of the bullish sentiment artificially inflated by partitioning and 2) young people are in fact struggling to rent rooms BECAUSE of poor wages, not "lack of cheap rooms" per se 😴
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its good to legalize and normalize this part of the market also, so we can see what is the room rental market by then.... now all just keep on debating but no one know what is the real impact anyway
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 16 2023, 05:03 PM)
Of course there’s always going to be people flouting the rules but the point of such a strong statement to denounce the act is that people will stop posting proudly on social media. Co-living companies and property gurus won’t advertise openly and of course JMB will have to respond if neighbours complain that this is going on.

The fact that they have to sneak around to do it is the point and they can’t do it openly. Quite sad we can’t self regulate and need harsh punishment to learn any sort of lesson. Sounds like we need a PAP or CCP to really get anyone to follow any sort of rules.
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malaysian need communist ruling only will improve... after became leading country, switch it back to democracy lol
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post Aug 17 2023, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 17 2023, 09:54 AM)
The picture she linked is exactly why it’s all gone to hell. The only way to get what they want is that the developers build it outright like Berjaya with their 900 sqft 5 bed/4 bath. Taking matters into your own hands means that it’s too hard to regulate so might as well ban all. No sympathy Miss Chong, go fly kite.

There are plenty of options still. Tenants just have to be not lazy and find a group of like minded people to rent a place like what your elders had to do.
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so if you need to rent a room to rent now, you will be the leader to lead and to group up the bunch of like minded to rent together?
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post Aug 17 2023, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 17 2023, 10:05 AM)
This is what young adults have been doing all their life. Arguably it’s even easier nowadays with digital and social media. If someone was truly altruistic, they would build a platform to connect tenants. This is common in UK, US etc.

Wetopia etc have the capabilities to do so but don’t know how to monetise it beyond blocking off your living room and being the unit supplier. If you’re smart, you’d meld it with a Tinder component so u got all your “needs” taken care of. That enough of an idea for you? Prude stay sama prude, DTF stay with likeminded.
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i did it bro during my college time and i swear i would never do it again in my life even if i need a room now... lol... all the blaming, demands and problem solving, its not worth it at all, try do it on your own a few times, you will know talk is easy than doing it... lol... and imagine being the leader of that co-living doesn't come with any additional perks other than more works and the rental saving from it doesn't worth any shit...

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