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 [AMA] Living with an EV for a month

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Zoo Howl
post Jun 19 2023, 11:15 AM

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If charging EV car in mall, u not afraid that those itchy hands pull away your charger? Then when u was about to collect your car, u see that ur car already stop charging
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post Jun 19 2023, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 19 2023, 06:35 AM)
U mean u can switch on the aircon n screen while charging n engine is off? Can do this for 6 to 8 hours if at camping?
Are the seats comfortable for sleeping, at least recline by 60deg?
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Yes can. But the LED DRL will be on so might blind others when doing so

QUOTE(red_satu @ Jun 19 2023, 07:03 AM)
Hopefully Loke gets to fine-tune the road tax structure before the exemption ends. Though the Atto3 should be RM903 based on current Tax structure. Boy96 willing to pay?
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I am confident it wont go that high lah. Even if it is, its still cheaper than my current peugeot maintenance of couple of thousands in repair every other month

QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Jun 19 2023, 07:07 AM)
infotainment laggy or not? still have physical buttons or everything is touchscreen?
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Very responsive almost ipad like, for an android based head unit. Almost everything is controlled by the touchscreen unfortunately

QUOTE(tolongking @ Jun 19 2023, 07:18 AM)
All speed adaptive cruise control 2017 JDM Toyota Chr already have. Yours will auto resume? Mine will need to step on the pedal or press a button to resume when the car has come to a complete stop
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Yeah need to step pedal or flick switch

QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ Jun 19 2023, 07:41 AM)
Where would you choose the first destination for a long trip in an EV & why?
Thanks man for doing this.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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KL to Johor very easy as most of the rnr heading there has charger already


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post Jun 19 2023, 11:19 AM

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Always curious about these new gen EV cars : blush.gif
1. Is there difference in RCB/MCCB 40amps vs 63amps aside from charging speed? i assume its like mobilephone fast vs normal charging
2. So far how is resale value / depreciation like compare to non EV ? Retail vs sell price
3. if more people buy EV, meaning charging bays at malls /public places will be unavailable most of time?
4. I heard the fast charging areas in petrol stations are available, but the usage price is not cheap vs petrol ?
5. Also heard that EV battery should not charge above 80% to preserve the life and reduce degradation ?
6. The own charger/cables at public places 3pin plug, can be stolen easily i assume (example pic below from TS) ?
7. saw roadshow for ATTO3 in 1utama, what is difference between STANDARD (rm150K) vs EXTENDED (rm168K)?
8. any discounts or freebies given during purchase ?

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cempedaklife
post Jun 19 2023, 11:22 AM

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i like TS thread instead of those EV pro sembang kencang.
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post Jun 19 2023, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 19 2023, 10:53 AM)
i'm not into EV until that in depth yet so i'm asking
because i notice nobody talked about it and everybody thought all EVs are really maintenance free...just inspection only padahal there are things owners need to be watchful about

but at the same time...they say that BMW design made the accelerator pedal feels more natural instead of the usual weird EV pedal feeling
like i said it really depends on your usage
of course, if possible always get the highest one instead of the lowest one

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It is maintenance free if brushless motor. Think of your ceiling or standing fan. Since when we ever need to do maintenance for those
TSBoy96
post Jun 19 2023, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(I-Kurosaki @ Jun 19 2023, 07:50 AM)
is it true BYD owners have higher tendency to ajak drag race at traffic light?

Jokes aside, how's the acceleration from zero? What kind of car comes close (to its acceleration trait)?

Also not mentioned if yours is SR or ER, but looks like ER from the rims. Range given is 420km based on WLTP. If you have measured, what would be the energy consumption or total range for different speed range, i.e. at 90km/hr, 110km/hr, 130km/hr and 150km/hr?

What's your current view on the DC chargers availability, reliability, user experience and cost for outstation travel, and especially north of KL like KL-PNG? From observation, KL-JHR route has relatively higher number of DC chargers, and severely lack of charging facilities for interstate travel considering the number of EVs on the road.
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Actually BYD drag race at traffic light is the worse, the throttle response is not instant, a myvi confirm will smoke it the first few meters upon green light coz u know how sensitive myvi throttle pedal is. But yes manage to do 0-100 in around 7seconds-ish

It is ER, I have not measured the consumption but I was told anything above 120km/h really drains the battery badly

KL - JHR no problem, to Penang theres no charger in between KL and Tapah, after that there is Simpang Pulai but its too expensive at rm4/minute, to east coast definitely lacking charger, but still possible to arrive in kuantan without charging lah or just 10 minutes stop at Gambang. But its not possible to use Gua Musang

QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 19 2023, 07:57 AM)
Awesome info! Thanks.
Can't wait for more review when you do the 20k service.
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Have to wait next year coz my mileage very low one

QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 19 2023, 07:58 AM)
nice read. thanks for sharing  . I have a couple of questions TS

1. when left charging, is it possible for theft ? how is the security of the car

2. you will consider using this car until when?

3. how is the service centre/ maintenance experience?
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1. No, the charging cable is locked to the car when charging

2. 10 years

3. From other owners they say no issues, done quite fast since actually nothing to be serviced, just inspection

QUOTE(LemonHoneyIce @ Jun 19 2023, 08:11 AM)
So far is it difficult for you to find charging port in the city? Or usually able to drive whole day till night time only charge?
And also the risk of people tampering the charging using 3 pin like you show above, feel not so safe.
That's my concern of EV currently cuz the facilities still very new and scarce
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In KL very2 easy to find charge port. Just download the app called Plugshare to see where is the nearest charging location, but for me no use lah all those charge port since can just go back home to charge

If using 3 pin the cable will still lock to the car when charging, but theres a possibility someone turn off the switch lah

QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 19 2023, 08:11 AM)
how much to install charger at home...?
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Already mentioned, rm1.2k for installation only

bashlyner
post Jun 19 2023, 11:25 AM

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Kasi like for a quality thread. Look like EV is setup to be a viable second car for day to day drive within the city, provided the house can install the charging port. Would love to see the feedback after 2-3 years I think that's the time we really know if EV can really be the future in Malaysia.
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post Jun 19 2023, 11:25 AM

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Will pause answering, got meeting. Later continue. Just continue posting your questions
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post Jun 19 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jun 19 2023, 11:25 AM)
Kasi like for a quality thread. Look like EV is setup to be a viable second car for day to day drive within the city, provided the house can install the charging port. Would love to see the feedback after 2-3 years I think that's the time we really know if EV can really be the future in Malaysia.
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Chicken and egg situation. TS pun mentioned currently EV charging bays aren't that packed because EVs are still rare.

Infrastructure providers may wait for more demand before investing, would-be users pulak wait for more charging infrastructure before buying EVs.

So it's only a viable option for those with spare cars for outstation trips.
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post Jun 19 2023, 11:31 AM

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how's the L2 auto driving compared to x50? can it keep centered in lane, turn corners well

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Zaryl
post Jun 19 2023, 11:33 AM

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Bro, why you no buy Hyundai Ioniq 5 or Kia EV6?

I am planning to buy those EV cars with at least 800V charging architecture. BYD, Tesla, BMW, Merc & etc all are using typical 400V.
800V means FASTER DC charging time compare to 400V.

Example, Hyundai Ioniq 5 can do ~18mins from 20-80% compare to others.
Others might take ~30mins or so.

18mins for me is quite fast for DC fast charging an EV car.

But i scare the roadtax EV after 2025. Will wait and see how gov going to revise the price. If EV cars will use EMISSION TAX and will be much cheaper than my current honda city hybrid 1.5 RM90 per year, shadap and take my money already. icon_idea.gif

But nice sharing by the way & enjoy your EV experience. thumbsup.gif

Hybrid > all
Honda > all
TSBoy96
post Jun 19 2023, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 19 2023, 08:31 AM)
vonder how they guage the fee, ICE guage by cc hmmm
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Based on the kW (horsepower) of the car. Which is a dumb idea thats why they are restructuring

QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 19 2023, 08:45 AM)
Since now you don't hear engine noise, do you find the tyre road roaring and wind noise crazily loud?
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Tyre and wind noise usually comes in above 120km/h, but i find this car aircon heat pump /compressor noise quite loud so not much difference than engine noise

QUOTE(maxpudding @ Jun 19 2023, 08:50 AM)
What’s the total electricity bill looks like in your home? Are you hitting the maximum tier even without the EV charging?
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Yes, before ev charging my bill already rm500±

QUOTE(knwong @ Jun 19 2023, 08:54 AM)
Your tire is meant for EV?

I know you haven't change it but how much is the retail price?
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Nope, for BYD they are using regular tyres, not an EV specific tyres, and as of now the size 215/55/18 still no EV tyres produced for it

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 19 2023, 08:58 AM)
Brake need servicing? Come on... If change battery coolant, still can understand but brakes? Even with regenerative braking, I dont think there is much to check anyway.
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Need to change brake fluid. This car regen braking is quite minimal, not very strong at all compared to other EV

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NathanJeans
post Jun 19 2023, 11:37 AM

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Nice me also EV driver. Volvo V40 recharge.
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post Jun 19 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jun 19 2023, 11:33 AM)
Bro, why you no buy Hyundai Ioniq 5 or Kia EV6?

I am planning to buy those EV cars with at least 800V charging architecture. BYD, Tesla, BMW, Merc & etc all are using typical 400V.
800V means FASTER DC charging time compare to 400V.

Example, Hyundai Ioniq 5 can do ~18mins from 20-80% compare to others.
Others might take ~30mins or so.

18mins for me is quite fast for DC fast charging an EV car.

But i scare the roadtax EV after 2025. Will wait and see how gov going to revise the price. If EV cars will use EMISSION TAX and will be much cheaper than my current honda city hybrid 1.5 RM90 per year, shadap and take my money already.  icon_idea.gif

But nice sharing by the way & enjoy your EV experience.  :thumbsup:

Hybrid > all
Honda > all
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even faster charger is coming up. so nio idea of removable battery is going to die out soon. kesian nio.

hyundai using 350kwh charger, huawei already implement 600kwh, can charge 100kw battery in 10 min. typical ev battery in 60 kw range, maybe 6 min full charge.
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post Jun 19 2023, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(pysh @ Jun 19 2023, 08:58 AM)
have you ever bump into a situation you couldnt find a charger?
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So far nope, but i have a habit to plug in at home back to full when the car reaches 50-60%

QUOTE(Gadget_Freak @ Jun 19 2023, 09:17 AM)
Do you feel the interior is ugly? the dashboard looks like titans muscle in attack on titan?

The exterior is quite nice though
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I like the interior, very insta story friendly haha

QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 19 2023, 09:19 AM)
when you bought your EV, does it come along with a free charger package?

if not how much is a charger ?
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Yes, I was given a free 22kW wallbox, despite the car and my house only support single phase. Which means in the future if I want to upgrade to 3 phase car/house wiring, can use back same wallbox

If have to buy the charger cost around rm4-6k

QUOTE(sihamsedap @ Jun 19 2023, 09:29 AM)
welcome to EV
been driving more than a year already

ur byd can go outstation easily, u need to try it to overcome any range anxiety u have.. many byd members travel to thai, really envy them bachelors lol..

going down south is a lot easier, almost every 50-100km got dcfc, no worries

eastcoast is doable too if u know where to charge/plan etc.
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Yup, but for now Im not willing to change my driving style and trouble myself along the highway, coz the other car im already used to driving 160km/h average all the way yet still able to get around 700km+ for a full tank. Definitely not possible on current EV's

QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 19 2023, 09:34 AM)
My only question is why choose that color.
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Unique color, other color very common on other cars on the road
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post Jun 19 2023, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Zoo Howl @ Jun 19 2023, 11:15 AM)
If charging EV car in mall, u not afraid that those itchy hands pull away your charger? Then when u was about to collect your car, u see that ur car already stop charging
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i thought it's locked when it's charging so nobody can even pull it out
else anybody can steal the cable and resell it


QUOTE(gaijin @ Jun 19 2023, 11:19 AM)
2. So far how is resale value / depreciation like compare to non EV ? Retail vs sell price
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if your sole purpose of buying a car is resale value

thn u have to stick with toyota petrol car ONLY FOREVER
because not even toyota EV or hybrid car depreciate well....it depreciate same as any other brand or models
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post Jun 19 2023, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 19 2023, 09:38 AM)
u buy normal or extended range?
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Extended

QUOTE(williamtan2020 @ Jun 19 2023, 09:39 AM)
How often you engage stop n go? At the traffic light, does it smoothly accelerate or sluggish, frustrating the cars behind?
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Whenever im stuck in the jam i use it,

It smoothly accelerate lah but not mindblowingly fast, a crazy myvi driver that challenge u to a race and full throttle once light turns green will definitely beat u for the first few meters

QUOTE(blmse92 @ Jun 19 2023, 09:43 AM)
Got waiting period?
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Booked mine in feb, got a call before raya car was ready but i delayed delivery until last month since need to sort out some other stuffs first

QUOTE(conan1 @ Jun 19 2023, 09:45 AM)
charging at royal chulan there need asking permission? they allow it?
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I just asked the reception there can use or not, they say can then just plug in lor

QUOTE(Wahlberg @ Jun 19 2023, 09:49 AM)
Boy96

this ev , hows the resale value?
future predicament
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Doubt will have good resale value, but im used to that so not an issue for me
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post Jun 19 2023, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(kembayang @ Jun 19 2023, 09:59 AM)
Can you try to overnight in the car with ac on.
How much battery consumed?
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Maybe can try experiment later

QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Jun 19 2023, 10:02 AM)
Kete ni boleh pickup awek ke?
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No, ada H ada awek still applies

QUOTE(snimple @ Jun 19 2023, 10:04 AM)
tried parking your car under hot sun during this weather and then drive it?

any issues / symptoms of battery might over temp and end up cant start the car or cant drive with full function?
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Yup, no issues at all. However the car is using heat pump as the aircon system, it take around 2-3 minutes before it starts pumping cold air, so I usually remote start the car using the phone app before entering the car

QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 19 2023, 10:05 AM)
so common house 3 din plug power point already can charge ???..
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Can but totally not recommended, cause u dont know the wire quality of the 3 pin plug. If not good then will blow the house socket

QUOTE(bee002 @ Jun 19 2023, 10:10 AM)
how come out side(wangsa walk and velocity) charger free? i thought all have to paid , can further explain?
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Velocity one u have to pay premium parking rate to access the charger

Wangsa walk i dunno, but there only 2 spot so most of the time already got car charging there..
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post Jun 19 2023, 12:03 PM

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Sharing this post from my wallbox installer on how wallbox charging may trip your house fuse especially if your house wiring is very old


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post Jun 19 2023, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(machomama @ Jun 19 2023, 10:30 AM)
has your driving style changed ever since moving from ICE to EV?

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Nope, im not gonna change my driving style to suit the car, the car should suit my driving style

QUOTE(sonicscourge @ Jun 19 2023, 10:39 AM)
what about tyres, tyre usage, tyre wear and EV specific tyres?
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For BYD dont have ev specific tyre, it uses the same size and load rating as Proton X50 and Mazda CX30 tyres

QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 19 2023, 10:45 AM)
then mean single phase already can liao,.. no need 3 phase ???
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Yes, if your house minimal electricity load

QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jun 19 2023, 11:02 AM)
how much to replace the battery
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No idea, its like how much to change entire engine for normal car

QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 19 2023, 11:15 AM)
1) do outside mechanics know how to do tyre alignment or install Ah Beng accessories?

2) does it have regular "fuse board" where we can tap 12V power for say, dash cams?

3) insurance premium - for your brand new car, what is the comparable new ICE vehicle in terms of premium paid? Is there any loading for EV since batteries are vulnerable in a serious accident as you mentioned?

4) does the car drive like a regular ICE car? Would you be comfortable lending it to someone who has never driven an EV, or handing over to the tyre shop mechanic for alignment test drive?
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1) Yes

2) Yes

3) its the same as other 170k normal petrol car, no extra loading charges whatsoever

4) yes for BYD, they designed it so that it feels like a regular ICE car.

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