Hai guys, lama tak buka tered pasal kereta. As some u know, I sold my old Suprima earlier. And had it replaced with an EV.




Why EV/BYD Atto 3?

- Want something with similar characteristic as Suprima, big boot space, huge rear legroom, must have many features such as pano roof, AEB, lane keep, adaptive cruise etc etc

- Need to be powerful (over 160hp) yet with minimal maintenance

- I dont have any kampung to balik to, so no range anxiety, even if need to go for that maybe twice a year out of KL trips, can take other car

- To carry stuffs when needed, other cars at home boot too small to fit large item



- Looked at competitors:

Honda HRV : 140k car with Honda City Interior, seats too firm, boot too small and CVT puik. Honda CRV: Too old

Mazda CX-30 : Cramped interior, Boot too small

Peugeot 3008/VW Tiguan : Not much features to play with, no adaptive cruise control, AEB etc etc

Ora Good Cat: Boot too small, slow charging.

CHARGING, How much does it cost?

- Over a month, I only driven 1535km




And here is my home energy usage




Roughly RM 120++ for 1500km distance, this I set my wallbox charging app to count using TNB highest block electricity tariff. I also charge outside when I go mall to makan, charging outside is free, only pay for parking.

My fav is Sunway Velocity and Wangsa Walk




Sounds cheap right? Actually is not, because to upgrade my house electricity (RCB/MCCB from 40amps to 63amps) since my house was from the 80's cost RM3.5k, the wallbox itself is free from BYD, but installation cost is Rm1.2k.

Where is the furthest you've ever driven it?

- Not far, furthest is from home to KLIA then straight to Seremban. then pusing2 seremban town. around 140-150km.. Battery left 70%

- Stayed at Royale Chulan Seremban, they allow 3 pin charging there. So plug in at night, next day checkout battery already fully charged, again... Free of Charge

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So yeah, this is my experience with EV now. Feel free to ask anything in regards to EV or even the car itself. Ill answer it truthfully, unbiased based on my personal POV.

This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 19 2023, 04:58 AM

if its my only car, maybe hybrid (actually dont like hybrid, see 330e,a6 hybrid, c350e so many issues). But since my house got few other cars to use, then I would still go for full EV.
Take full advantage of the tax free status, free roadtax, currently most ev charging station at malls are not at full utilized so easy parking in malls, and get tax rebate on home charger..

Yes, that is also one of the reason I chose EV, because while waiting for people can sleep in the car with AC on, tried, no issues

BYD Design is considered safe design to me, not too offensive but not too boring either.

Battery degradation wise, I have been following BYD owners group Thailand, over there got Atto 3 already travel 160k km, but less than 5%

This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 19 2023, 05:05 AM

1. Probably around 10 years

2. Yes. Insurance cost the same as regular car

3. Most houses are single phase, they recommend if u have more than 3 airconds should upgrade to 3 phase, my house have 6 airconds but only 3 airconds running most of the time, wanted to upgrade to 3 phase but macam kena con by electrician saying will cost 8-10k to upgrade, i checked other people less than 4k can kawtim already, 3 phase also good if u have plan to install solar panel later as suruhanjaya tenaga limits the capacity of solar if u only use single phase

4. If from empty which usually never the case, since u can plug in every day. Should take around 8 hours. But for me I like to charge when the battery gets to 60%. And the wallbox can set the ampere on how fast to charge, maximum is 32 amps. I usually set under 10amps since i dont need it to charge quickly. Thus reducing the load of my house electricity

5. Totally not, i most of the time charge at home only. Outside charging only when i find a free one. The sleep in car part is because I usually send my family members for them to run their errands, so instead of following them, I just stay in the car enjoy aircond and watch netflix on the big centre screen

6. No clue how much, but all i know is very easy to total loss the car if accident, once hit the battery pack insurance will consider beyond economic repair, thus why taking agreed value insurance very important

7. No idea on this, 5% for 160k km travelled seems very low to me. My suprima almost 10 years when I sold it the mileage was less than 130k km

8. This also no idea, the first inspection service at 5k km is free, the next service is every year or 20k km whichever comes first. Got someone in byd club malaysia service 20k km kena rm300.

List of service item is just aircond cabin filter, reduction gear oil, brake fluid and coolant

P/S: managed to sell the Suprima for 16k only

This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 19 2023, 06:26 AM

Unlike other EV, this BYD is setup to mimic a regular ICE car. So no fast acceleration feeling unless u enter sport mode..

Handling wise, its so so so damn comfortable when driving normally, lalu pothole also no feel, my passengers everytime naik kereta will fall asleep... but its a typical china car setup, cannot take corner one body roll quite heavy and lifeless overassisted steering feel. It feels stable though coz the battery pack is on the floor.. It feels similar as my family bmw g28 330Li, a China market car. Heck, i tested on Suke highway, the bmw rolls even more than the BYD

No given service schedule, based on current owner feedback, first service at 5k km is free, then next service is every 20k km or 1 year, need to pay but dunno how much

This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 19 2023, 06:13 AM

Best

- super duper clear 360 camera
- adaptive cruise control with stop n go, very stress free in the jam, on a 300k bmw this needs to be retrofitted outside and will cost almost 20k to do it
- very nice sounding stock audio system, beats the hell out of stock BMW audio
- phone app to control the car lock unlock start on aircond, on a bmw all these need to pay subscription to access, this one free
- V2L feature means can go camping bring all electrical items, car becomes a giant powerbank
- centre screen is essentially an android tablet with play store, can watch netflix YouTube disney+ etc etc

So far no useless features yet, but i turned off lane departure warning though. Very annoying, unlike german car that just vibrates the steering, this car damn loud beeping siren

This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 19 2023, 06:20 AM

Yes can. But the LED DRL will be on so might blind others when doing so

I am confident it wont go that high lah. Even if it is, its still cheaper than my current peugeot maintenance of couple of thousands in repair every other month

Very responsive almost ipad like, for an android based head unit. Almost everything is controlled by the touchscreen unfortunately

Yeah need to step pedal or flick switch

KL to Johor very easy as most of the rnr heading there has charger already

Actually BYD drag race at traffic light is the worse, the throttle response is not instant, a myvi confirm will smoke it the first few meters upon green light coz u know how sensitive myvi throttle pedal is. But yes manage to do 0-100 in around 7seconds-ish

It is ER, I have not measured the consumption but I was told anything above 120km/h really drains the battery badly

KL - JHR no problem, to Penang theres no charger in between KL and Tapah, after that there is Simpang Pulai but its too expensive at rm4/minute, to east coast definitely lacking charger, but still possible to arrive in kuantan without charging lah or just 10 minutes stop at Gambang. But its not possible to use Gua Musang

Have to wait next year coz my mileage very low one

1. No, the charging cable is locked to the car when charging

2. 10 years

3. From other owners they say no issues, done quite fast since actually nothing to be serviced, just inspection

In KL very2 easy to find charge port. Just download the app called Plugshare to see where is the nearest charging location, but for me no use lah all those charge port since can just go back home to charge

If using 3 pin the cable will still lock to the car when charging, but theres a possibility someone turn off the switch lah

Already mentioned, rm1.2k for installation only

Will pause answering, got meeting. Later continue. Just continue posting your questions

Based on the kW (horsepower) of the car. Which is a dumb idea thats why they are restructuring

Tyre and wind noise usually comes in above 120km/h, but i find this car aircon heat pump /compressor noise quite loud so not much difference than engine noise

Yes, before ev charging my bill already rm500±

Nope, for BYD they are using regular tyres, not an EV specific tyres, and as of now the size 215/55/18 still no EV tyres produced for it

Need to change brake fluid. This car regen braking is quite minimal, not very strong at all compared to other EV

This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 19 2023, 11:37 AM

So far nope, but i have a habit to plug in at home back to full when the car reaches 50-60%

I like the interior, very insta story friendly haha

Yes, I was given a free 22kW wallbox, despite the car and my house only support single phase. Which means in the future if I want to upgrade to 3 phase car/house wiring, can use back same wallbox

If have to buy the charger cost around rm4-6k

Yup, but for now Im not willing to change my driving style and trouble myself along the highway, coz the other car im already used to driving 160km/h average all the way yet still able to get around 700km+ for a full tank. Definitely not possible on current EV's

Unique color, other color very common on other cars on the road

Extended

Whenever im stuck in the jam i use it,

It smoothly accelerate lah but not mindblowingly fast, a crazy myvi driver that challenge u to a race and full throttle once light turns green will definitely beat u for the first few meters

Booked mine in feb, got a call before raya car was ready but i delayed delivery until last month since need to sort out some other stuffs first

I just asked the reception there can use or not, they say can then just plug in lor

Doubt will have good resale value, but im used to that so not an issue for me

Maybe can try experiment later

No, ada H ada awek still applies

Yup, no issues at all. However the car is using heat pump as the aircon system, it take around 2-3 minutes before it starts pumping cold air, so I usually remote start the car using the phone app before entering the car

Can but totally not recommended, cause u dont know the wire quality of the 3 pin plug. If not good then will blow the house socket

Velocity one u have to pay premium parking rate to access the charger

Wangsa walk i dunno, but there only 2 spot so most of the time already got car charging there..

Sharing this post from my wallbox installer on how wallbox charging may trip your house fuse especially if your house wiring is very old

Nope, im not gonna change my driving style to suit the car, the car should suit my driving style

For BYD dont have ev specific tyre, it uses the same size and load rating as Proton X50 and Mazda CX30 tyres

Yes, if your house minimal electricity load

No idea, its like how much to change entire engine for normal car

1) Yes

2) Yes

3) its the same as other 170k normal petrol car, no extra loading charges whatsoever

4) yes for BYD, they designed it so that it feels like a regular ICE car.

Nope, the charger is locked to the car when the car is locked

1. 40 amps definitely cannot because the charger already using 32amps, u only have 8 amps left to power your house, thats why need 63 amps

2. Dont have that data yet, there is a used 2019 nissan leaf for sale for rm90k, new car that time cost around 150-160k iinm? But the leaf is a very inferior EV that tends to overheat its batteries since theres a design flaw which it doesnt have enough cooling.

3. Chicken and egg situation, but for now more and more chargers is being installed as more ev's are on the road

4. Correct, fast charging in Malaysia is expensive, almost Singapore price. So its actually cheaper to fast charge in Singapore than in Malaysia. So no more funny humping action from Singaporeans when they charge in Malaysia

5. That is recommended for NCM battery EV, for BYD and other EV with LFP chemistry batteries, can charge to 100% everytime no problem.

6. The 3 pin can be turned off and unplugged, but the car is locked so the cable is also locked to the car so no chance of theft

7. Can refer to BYD website, main difference is battery size, fast charging speed, power boot, pm2.5 air purifier, wireless charging, RGB ambient lighting, rim size, number of speaker. The rest all the same

8. Free V2L cable and wallbox. No diskaun.

Dont know never tried proton one before. Its just ok2 lah, not very accurate like tesla autopilot or volvo one

Obviously the cost lol, the base/middle spec ioniq5 is not worth the price, the top spec is over budget at 300k++ already

Btw the korean use regular ncm battery which means cannot charge to 100% everytime like the BYD Blade LFP battery

Yes. I just checked its rm1.3k actually. But usually newer homes no need the 3.5k upgrade



I install it thru Sime Darby company installer. Mine they gave the 22kW 5 meter cable, but its rm1.3k because house is single phase, if 3 phaae house then its rm1.7k to install

This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 19 2023, 01:01 PM

Nope, i still need the fiesta for my touge /genting runs. Also for my mum to drive to pasar.

For this ah, actually 400km city drive very hard to achieve. Maybe 300+ can lah, really have to drive like a granny to obtain 400km

From the BYD owners manual

Fully charging the vehicle is
recommended at a regular basis (at least
once a week), and fully charge it from a
low battery (<10% SOC) once every three
to six months.

8 years or 160k km

Maybe can try once la to experience. But i still prefer to take petrol car there because i have no patience to stick to the speed limit on highway. The BYD top speed is already less than what my usual petrol car average highway cruising speed is

I am in myEVOC fb since 2019 and one of the top contributer there hehe



This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 19 2023, 01:24 PM

Not worth it to do grab unless u have a under rm50k EV with 400km range.

Hopefully the ministry that is currently drafting the guideline for installing charger at highrise make it done quicker, many condos management still waiting for the new guidelines