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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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darksider
post May 13 2023, 03:10 PM

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money game - check
cheap bmw for lansi - check
kill someone due to reckless speeding - check
tell lies in front of media that it wasnt his fault - check

when someone is involved in money game, mean his 良心 is gone.
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post May 13 2023, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ May 13 2023, 11:47 AM)
user posted image

(The above picture, showing the misplace impact point, was taken from the above video.)

By focusing on the T-junction?

Not going to help him much as the accident was fully captured on a cctv, and the point of impact is after the junction, not inside the junction. See below picture from the cctv.

user posted image

Though the fb post is no longer available, it did show the where the impact point was, and more important, the moments after the impact until the car stopped.

It obviously shows the driver has no control of the car after the impact.

The million dollar question: was the driver in control of the car before hitting the bike?

In control meaning the driver is driving the car at a speed he has control over and able to stop at a notice and reasonable distance, heading and guiding the car in a direction he wants with his eyes on the road and hands on the steering wheel.

In short, if a car is going straight on the road, it could be the mechanics of the wheel alignment that is holding the car straight, and not the driver. The driver is merely a passenger and not in control of the car.

The driver has clearly lost control over his vehicle after the point of impact. Was he in control before impact?
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FUCK YOU MISREPESENT THE PICTURE

that fucking picture is is to show initially
when people was saying where the moto came out from?
and where the FUCKER BMW came from?

as some people say the fucker BMW idiot CBKia was turning out from corner
no way the car can be that fast if come out corner
that was then

CBKia Kwong wah online

want more realistic one?

user posted image

and i calculate if BMW idiot is 100kmph
he will be around 70m away, when the moto is at the junction, still not yet out
and 70m away from impact looks like this

user posted image

user posted image

I did simple calculation, approx 2.5 sec for moto to come out from junction to arrive to impact point

so 2.5secs from impact, the BMW is approx 70 meters back

so far also cannot see moto, is blind or simply inattentive and speeding

This post has been edited by mcchin: May 13 2023, 03:46 PM
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post May 13 2023, 03:53 PM

 
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Weekend liao /ktard detectives still working hard. LMAO.
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post May 13 2023, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 13 2023, 03:45 PM)
FUCKING KWONG WAH ONLINE
FUCK YOU MISREPESENT THE PICTURE

that fucking picture is is to show initially
when people was saying where the moto came out from?
and where the FUCKER BMW came from?

as some people say the fucker BMW idiot CBKia was turning out from corner
no way the car can be that fast if come out corner
that was then

CBKia Kwong wah online

want more realistic one?

user posted image

and i calculate if BMW idiot is 100kmph
he will be around 70m away, when the moto is at the junction, still not yet out
and 70m away from impact looks like this

user posted image

user posted image

I did simple calculation, approx 2.5 sec for moto to come out from junction to arrive to impact point

so 2.5secs from impact, the BMW is approx 70 meters back

so far also cannot see moto, is blind or simply inattentive and speeding
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post May 13 2023, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ May 13 2023, 12:44 PM)
Suspect bmw mau potong moto. Then bmBodo see other incoming lane car datang. Then brek mahal taruh kiri then langgar lor
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more like inattentive
there's a MPV on the opposite lane

and some reports say he is after work, so cannot really say dunno the road

either really stupid dunno road, that 2 lane change to 1 lane (which is not wrong, as the left lane is for turning only)
it still is 1 lane to 1 lane

so he thought there is 2 lanes after the junction, and the MPV stopping there cause him to swerve back

or based on his own words, he didnt saw the moto
which means inattentive, would be because the car drift out to center line due to inattentiveness
and when look up swa the MPV instead of the moto
so jerk back no brakes and hit with full force

intentional one i dont see it happening

QUOTE(contestchris @ May 13 2023, 01:04 PM)
Looking at the video, the car was definitely speeding (not sure how fast exactly).

But everyone here saying the car driver has to stop due to the white line at the road...wtfff??? 99.9% of us would not stop. It's a shitty road design. The "right of way" shouldn't need stop, the ones crossing the road have to stop. Plus unless you are familiar with this area, you will not be able to see the painted lines on the road. Plus stopping on a straight road for no reason, good chances to get whacked from the back also.

Driver fault = driving fast. But I will not fault the driver for not stopping.

Unless someone else can educated me about the road rules better.
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its a 3 ways stop junction apa so hard to understand about it
travelling at normal speed 60 and below would easily see the line and make arrangements to stop
there is no right of way here

QUOTE(contestchris @ May 13 2023, 01:07 PM)
This road have another problem if you are unfamiliar with it beforehand...it is unclear that 2 lanes merge into one. Damn fking dangerous in and of itself!
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he did say it was after work right?
so ? amacham still feign ignorance
speed limits are there so can able detect variances

so either speeding too much to not even see the line or not looking at all

2 lane no merge to 1

the left is for turns
one lane is to one taman lane

how hard to understand this?

QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 13 2023, 02:36 PM)
the driver clearly reacted too late as he was probably playing henpon. he wanted to evade only at the final second but then decided to sondol back for no reason in even though there were not oncoming cars on the other lane. clearly a rookie driver and an unfocussed one.
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its a conjecture since no rest of the view
there is a MPV on the oppo lane ready to turn
so there is no room to overtake

i dont think he "decide" to sondol
whether there is drift to center line dunno, but the aftermath trajectory shows the car maybe avoiding the MPV
more like only see the MPV and missed out on the moto in front

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 13 2023, 02:50 PM)
Also the reason they sondol back is due to target fixation which is a common reaction when faced with emergency.
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see above

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QUOTE(Pulltea88 @ May 13 2023, 03:56 PM)
BMW driver oledi pau Kwong Wah reporter. Biasala orang Pening, semua Jho Low SOP.
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yeah
that's the reality we live in now
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post May 13 2023, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(darksider @ May 13 2023, 03:10 PM)
money game - check
cheap BMW for lansi - check
kill someone due to reckless speeding - check
tell lies in front of the media that it wasnt his fault - check

when someone is involved in money game, mean his 良心 is gone.
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LOL, that's what I keep telling people, that's a cheap BMW.
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post May 13 2023, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 13 2023, 04:08 PM)

i dont think he "decide" to sondol
whether there is drift to center line dunno, but the aftermath trajectory shows  the car maybe avoiding the MPV
more like only see the MPV and missed out on the moto in front
see above
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Either way his speed is too fast for that traffic and road condition there.
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post May 13 2023, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ May 13 2023, 11:14 AM)
Actually gory pictures are shown during Construction contractor licensing seminars

https://www.cidb.gov.my/

Agree JPJ should do the same.
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Huh? During my time learning theory they did show gore pictures of accidents...
Body split half, cracked skulls etc all without censor.
Nowadays they don't show edi?
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post May 13 2023, 04:29 PM

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Pretty sure he was on his phone while driving at that speed. No way u can't see someone coming out from the junction in the afternoon.
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post May 13 2023, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 13 2023, 03:45 PM)
FUCKING KWONG WAH ONLINE
FUCK YOU MISREPESENT THE PICTURE

that fucking picture is is to show initially
when people was saying where the moto came out from?
and where the FUCKER BMW came from?

as some people say the fucker BMW idiot CBKia was turning out from corner
no way the car can be that fast if come out corner
that was then

CBKia Kwong wah online

want more realistic one?

user posted image

and i calculate if BMW idiot is 100kmph
he will be around 70m away, when the moto is at the junction, still not yet out
and 70m away from impact looks like this

user posted image

user posted image

I did simple calculation, approx 2.5 sec for moto to come out from junction to arrive to impact point

so 2.5secs from impact, the BMW is approx 70 meters back

so far also cannot see moto, is blind or simply inattentive and speeding
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That's the thing. How can the driver not see?
And the motorcyclist probably assumed that the driver would have avoided. Not saying is not her fault but she is just unlucky she met an asshole.


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post May 13 2023, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(darksider @ May 13 2023, 03:10 PM)
money game - check
cheap bmw for lansi - check
kill someone due to reckless speeding - check
tell lies in front of media that it wasnt his fault - check

when someone is involved in money game, mean his 良心 is gone.
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the driver is involved in money game? what source?
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post May 13 2023, 04:38 PM

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This rubbish rich fucker can even come out for news interview.

This should go 6Y6K la fucker.
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post May 13 2023, 04:38 PM

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so the driver walks free?

he booked flight to paris for honeymoon me time liao?
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post May 13 2023, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(darksider @ May 13 2023, 03:10 PM)
money game - check
cheap bmw for lansi - check
kill someone due to reckless speeding - check
tell lies in front of media that it wasnt his fault - check

when someone is involved in money game, mean his 良心 is gone.
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Sampah masyarakat.
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post May 13 2023, 04:39 PM

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actually y no update on this news

dude literally bang die ppl

y still can go interview spurring bs n lie

penang so lawless?

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post May 13 2023, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 13 2023, 04:39 PM)
actually y no update on this news

dude literally bang die ppl

y still can go interview spurring bs n lie

penang so lawless?
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/73367883676...mibextid=SDPelY

This fucker still dare to push the blame to the deceased motor auntie.

Sorry has to be cn.lowyat. no English news.
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post May 13 2023, 04:48 PM

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This cibai driver should break both his legs,
Some cibai people only through hard beatings will he realise he is wrong.
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ May 13 2023, 01:10 PM)
And the Chinese newspaper only busybody yesterday and ignoring the juicy report on the fist brawl btw the 2 families at that road... until yesterday. smile.gif

A resident got the fist brawl on video from above ground viewpoint.
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no news details on the fight between the two families

very curious who's the short fat guy...so aggressive
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post May 13 2023, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Angry Clerk @ May 13 2023, 04:36 PM)
the driver is involved in money game? what source?
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