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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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SUSBrookLes
post May 12 2023, 08:41 PM

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How come that car cannot move a bit to the side one.
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post May 12 2023, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 12 2023, 11:06 PM)
But you see replies here. Ketebodo also practice same style. I'm sure you seen many cars do the same especially housing area.

Actually I prefer driving at night especially when navigating lots of junctions. The lights will alert me to approaching vehicle, and I will anticipate this stupid behaviour and adjust accordingly.
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That's why when ever I see junctions and a car about to come out, I always horn.
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post May 12 2023, 11:48 PM

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I think this lady not so smart for assuming cars should be careful at that junction. But she probably never expected that the car will drive so fast as well. Also, looking at the video, the car should have time to avoid her.

I meet this kind of situation and so far, I still managed to avoid.
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post May 12 2023, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Rich Dad @ May 12 2023, 11:50 PM)
Yes you're very smart and assuming and you know whats gonna happen next.
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Thanks for the compliment.
And for liking your comment.

Maybe if it were you crossing, I would probably just ram it in.
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post May 12 2023, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(DS51 @ May 12 2023, 09:50 PM)
this housing area speed limit is only 30kmh ma. if that bmw drive 30kmh, everyday can hit motobodo, and motobodo not even got injury.

u all got my points right..speeding is culprit number 1. but many here do not agree. In fact malaysian is too ego to admit, speed does bring fatality.

people can met accident everyday. but most important is aftermath. those machine such as car or bike. who cares, if the machine is damage. can throw claim total loss. but body dont have spare parts. once cacat, cannot repair.

thats why people need to reduce accident severity to the lowest that they can by driving slow. yeah. slow speed also can accident. but, u survive ma. and that what matter most right

But sometime, I really funny with our gomen. why not impose stricter speed limit implementation. it can save life ma. I bet, authority also love to drive fast. whoever new gomen form, they not even care about speeding implementation
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Would implementing speed limit stop this guy from speeding?
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post May 13 2023, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 09:01 PM)
The fact is both party broke traffic rules, but emo ppl wanna suddenly okay with biker ignoring rules while exiting junction.

I will continue my unpopular stand here when fact is fact.
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Technically she was not wrong as the car is supposed to stop there.

From looking at the white line and everything, there is clear indication that the car is supposed to stop

The lady probably assumed that cars will be stopping or slowing at that junction.

This post has been edited by BrookLes: May 13 2023, 12:05 AM
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post May 13 2023, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 13 2023, 03:45 PM)
FUCKING KWONG WAH ONLINE
FUCK YOU MISREPESENT THE PICTURE

that fucking picture is is to show initially
when people was saying where the moto came out from?
and where the FUCKER BMW came from?

as some people say the fucker BMW idiot CBKia was turning out from corner
no way the car can be that fast if come out corner
that was then

CBKia Kwong wah online

want more realistic one?

user posted image

and i calculate if BMW idiot is 100kmph
he will be around 70m away, when the moto is at the junction, still not yet out
and 70m away from impact looks like this

user posted image

user posted image

I did simple calculation, approx 2.5 sec for moto to come out from junction to arrive to impact point

so 2.5secs from impact, the BMW is approx 70 meters back

so far also cannot see moto, is blind or simply inattentive and speeding
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That's the thing. How can the driver not see?
And the motorcyclist probably assumed that the driver would have avoided. Not saying is not her fault but she is just unlucky she met an asshole.


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post May 14 2023, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(archief @ May 14 2023, 11:05 PM)
actually i hope this becomes a wake up call to motobodo for them to not feeling entitled on the road... but then looking at this tered and know how msia work, motobodo will get support and the bmw driver will go to jail. and we continue drive on the road with the risk of motobodo endangering both their life and our life.
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Sorry. Majority of the blame goes to this guy.
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post May 14 2023, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ May 14 2023, 10:37 PM)
See also know he play game while driving la…
The motor so near he also not bother to slow down.
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Play game and driving 100km / hr. Not bad skills.
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post May 14 2023, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 14 2023, 04:05 PM)
Q : Why do vehicles on a straight road need to stop at the lines ? I don't understand.

A : There are lines there and you stop and follow the procedures exiting a junction. That's all. It is too complex of a situation in trying to explain why should one stop at a junction. Nak faham buat apa ? Lines boleh hilang ? Jangan tanya soalan susah. Jawab pun bukannya boleh faham, nak saya jawab buat apa. Ikut aje la.
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Even without lines also have to be careful. Got 1 car almost knock me also in a junction area if I did not honk on time.
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post May 14 2023, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ May 14 2023, 04:21 PM)
As someone who drives in Penang for more than 5 years, motorcyclists are coming out from junctions without stopping or without even looking 95% of the time. I am always angry about them and curse them to be rolled under big lorries. But that doesn't mean I can hit them to death and escape any punishment.

When a motorcyclist comes out from junction IN A RESIDIENTIAL AREA without checking,
A. Car with proper speed and driver with full attention, would have seen that almost immediately, initiated an emergency brake, knocked down the motorcyclist with injury, and the motorcyclist should fall down almost the same spot where he/she gets knocked.
B. Car which is over speeding, driver who are not paying attention ( probably playing phone ), would not see him/her coming out from junction, continue speeding, then hear a big bang, drag for a few meters, motorcyclist fly up high, only then come to brake.

In this case, the BMW driver obviously speeding ( from the video ) in residential area, not paying attention ( did not brake in time and some more dragged her body for such long distance ) and doesn't respect for others' life at all ( being cocky and not even apologizing after killing auntie ).

This driver should get sentenced for maximum ( 10 years for dangerous driving I think ? ) punishment. Sadly there is no heavier punishment for drive-to-kill in Malaysia.
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Maybe you should start horning at ppl who do that and scream and then say you want to die is it?

But then you do it, they may whack your car. Malaysia mindset.

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post May 14 2023, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 14 2023, 12:53 PM)
No wor

But as part of defensive driving, can you think about below and answer me.

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.
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You are right. Why she go middle?

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post May 14 2023, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 14 2023, 11:48 PM)
You got watch or not?
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Is it a culture in Penang to drive like this?
I mean to the middle like this.
I would argue it this is the culture then the car should be careful also. But then if this is culture she is not suicidal.

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post May 15 2023, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 15 2023, 12:03 AM)
yes, unfortunately confirmed by Penang people below
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That's why should horn and scream those drivers.
But you do that in Malaysia, you get whacked.

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post May 15 2023, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 15 2023, 12:05 AM)
cannot horn in Penang

they will come down and beat you up
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I horn one car for driving so slow the other day.
That car actually followed me for awhile.
Suddenly can drive at normal speed
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post May 15 2023, 04:19 AM

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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ May 15 2023, 12:54 AM)
Agreed, because I not Penang lang ma, but been there multiple times, got into accident there before, and generally I like Penang (island) way of driving, some of the short cuts they do when stuck in traffic as long as it's not too risky - because, you know, traffic gotta move, cars/motors will find a way, like they say, so I'm not too stressed driving there, since the style quite match mine.

My observation was, there is a marked deterioration in driving skill/common sense post-pandemic in Klang Valley, maybe it applies to the whole of Malaysia and maybe it applies to me too.
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Notice ppl either driving very slowly or coming out suddenly. But the coming out suddenly dunno if has always been happening
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post May 15 2023, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(bansheelipsx @ May 15 2023, 11:15 AM)
accident... i know both got fault .. nobody wants it to happen

nobody know whether driver is using phone / attentive enough during the accident..

But after viewing the kwong wah interview .... anybody with sane mind can conclude this guy is a bastard ...

U killed a person already... no show respect .. not apologetic .. do press conference just to gain sympathy because kena whack by mob..

nobody care about ur 4 stiches  .. ppl died here ...
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Never knew that this kind of person exist. And even so cannot at least pretend to be sympathetic

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post May 15 2023, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(fapman @ May 15 2023, 11:17 AM)
I drove car this morning in the island also met at least 1 sohai driver.
Penang driving skills really something la.
Cannot brain at all.
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Already kl.is dangerous. If Penang one more level I better never ever drive to this area.

 

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