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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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delon85
post May 15 2023, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2023, 10:23 PM)
the moto was a good few seconds riding nicely on the road

what gives the car the right to crash into it from the rear?
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She's at best 2 seconds on the main road, hardly good at all.
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post May 15 2023, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(archief @ May 15 2023, 06:23 PM)
not defending this BMW guy.

but the motobodo is equally guilty.

both guilty, but the 1 with bigger gun wins.

if only the motobodo practise defensive driving/motoring, she is still alive now
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whoever alive win ..... simple as that.
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post May 15 2023, 10:35 PM

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Why the bmw just ram through after impact? He should be slamming the brakes once the car knocked motor.
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post May 15 2023, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 15 2023, 10:32 PM)
She's at best 2 seconds on the main road, hardly good at all.
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even if it is 2 seconds, that's ample time for any other car to slow down without hitting her. 2 seconds is long enough for reflexes to kick in, unless he wasn't even aware of her and was also speeding.
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post May 15 2023, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 15 2023, 10:32 PM)
She's at best 2 seconds on the main road, hardly good at all.
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there are stop lines for all lanes coming from each junction

that means whoever there first is given priority, very similar to a roundabout.

You don't enter roundabout without stopping at all.

All parties should stop at the junction and give priority to whoever appears at the junction first.

this kind of junction exists in my neighbourhood too

but of course many ignorant drivers choose to ignore the stop line and continue to speed up without stopping.

Similar to a roundabout, i've seen speeding drivers purposely sped up (from the other junction) and not stopping although i was at the junction first waiting to enter the roundabout.

I'm NOT referring to those who are already inside the roundabout.
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post May 15 2023, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 15 2023, 10:54 PM)
there are stop lines for all lanes coming from each junction

that means whoever there first is given priority, very similar to a roundabout.

You don't enter roundabout without stopping at all.

All parties should stop at the junction and give priority to whoever appears at the junction first.

this kind of junction exists in my neighbourhood too

but of course many ignorant drivers choose to ignore the stop line and continue to speed up without stopping.

Similar to a roundabout, i've seen speeding drivers purposely sped up (from the other junction) and not stopping although i was at the junction first waiting to enter the roundabout.

I'm NOT referring to those who are already inside the roundabout.
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so tldr is salahan siapa? ayam konpiused with the theory leh
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post May 15 2023, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Xith @ May 15 2023, 10:26 PM)
Cacat and feeble argument. There;s only B and C , NO A.

The location of accident already ahead of junction and auntie already traveled on Main Road. Else, how could the car hit from behind and not side.
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this is old promo advert laa

you think co like toyota gila one meh?
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post May 15 2023, 10:59 PM

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70 pages and still going on, niama you orang
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post May 15 2023, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2023, 10:55 PM)
so tldr is salahan siapa? ayam konpiused with the theory leh
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beemer should have stop or at least slow down
but cctv show no slow at all means he power through the junction
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post May 15 2023, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2023, 10:55 PM)
so tldr is salahan siapa? ayam konpiused with the theory leh
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sarahan bmw

he should stop and give priority to the bike who appears at the junction first
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post May 15 2023, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 15 2023, 11:00 PM)
beemer should have stop or at least slow down
but cctv show no slow at all means he power through the junction
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 15 2023, 11:00 PM)
sarahan bmw

he should stop and give priority to the bike who appears at the junction first
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yup. then why got ppl die2 say moto salah?
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post May 15 2023, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 15 2023, 10:54 PM)
there are stop lines for all lanes coming from each junction

that means whoever there first is given priority, very similar to a roundabout.

You don't enter roundabout without stopping at all.

All parties should stop at the junction and give priority to whoever appears at the junction first.

this kind of junction exists in my neighbourhood too

but of course many ignorant drivers choose to ignore the stop line and continue to speed up without stopping.

Similar to a roundabout, i've seen speeding drivers purposely sped up (from the other junction) and not stopping although i was at the junction first waiting to enter the roundabout.

I'm NOT referring to those who are already inside the roundabout.
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It's flawed logic if you compare it to roundabout. Roundabout are a lane on its own, every car trying to enter roundabout is the same as trying to enter another lane. That is why cars already inside roundabout have priority.

You're imposing roundabout rules on a T junction which doesn't work, both in terms of safety and smooth traffic flow.
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post May 15 2023, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2023, 11:01 PM)
yup. then why got ppl die2 say moto salah?
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they dont understand the meaning of a stop line just like above.

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post May 15 2023, 11:05 PM

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now we have info of doxx , it is matter of time this week whether the police will be quite or not. lets go to 100 page
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post May 15 2023, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 15 2023, 11:02 PM)
It's flawed logic if you compare it to roundabout. Roundabout are a lane on its own, every car trying to enter roundabout is the same as trying to enter another lane. That is why cars already inside roundabout have priority.

You're imposing roundabout rules on a T junction which doesn't work, both in terms of safety and smooth traffic flow.
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If car sondol another vehicle from the back, it is the car's fault ler. This is basic undang2. You cannot blame the vehicle in front for suddenly stopping or wadnot.
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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 15 2023, 11:02 PM)
It's flawed logic if you compare it to roundabout. Roundabout are a lane on its own, every car trying to enter roundabout is the same as trying to enter another lane. That is why cars already inside roundabout have priority.

You're imposing roundabout rules on a T junction which doesn't work, both in terms of safety and smooth traffic flow.
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yes yes might as well remove traffic lights in junctions to ensure safety and smooth traffic flow
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post May 15 2023, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 15 2023, 03:10 PM)
yes yes might as well remove traffic lights in junctions to ensure safety and smooth traffic flow
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Good Idea. Might as well put a divider all road, wanna cocok masuk keluar make a big turn kaotim.

Let's make this 100 page tered.
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post May 15 2023, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2023, 11:09 PM)
If car sondol another vehicle from the back, it is the car's fault ler. This is basic undang2. You cannot blame the vehicle in front for suddenly stopping or wadnot.
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No idea where you're trying to go

QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 15 2023, 11:10 PM)
yes yes might as well remove traffic lights in junctions to ensure safety and smooth traffic flow
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That's on you.

It's ridiculous to have stop line on main road in a T junction. Logically it doesn't make sense. If they really want cars to slow down on main road at a T junction, put a speed bump. Rich hillview resident may have paid to paint a stop line, but not generous enough to build a speed bump.
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post May 15 2023, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2023, 03:09 PM)
If car sondol another vehicle from the back, it is the car's fault ler. This is basic undang2. You cannot blame the vehicle in front for suddenly stopping or wadnot.
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Sondol balakong sure salah, but has to see how its sondol.

using the toyota ads of C-A-B rules, even if A is none existing party, its still C first, B second. By all sense and whatever magical sense, shouldn't the lorong, which in this case the C side, be moving after everything else?

BMW mari, tarak slowdown, and Motor being first to sampai the junction 15 seconds before the BMW, has right to passage regardless?

In this matter, rules is important, discussion is also important, but cannot forget the part which is human mistakes.

How we argue also, im sure all sides has part to play.

BMW why tarak slowdown continue fly at junction?
Motor auntie why BMW fly like nak balik rumah berak still keluar?
Really worth risking?

Its like I am trying to take my bicycle into the road where a train is coming along. People brake sempat or not, is not something to bet. Wanna bet go magnum toto kuda genting.
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post May 15 2023, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 15 2023, 03:17 PM)
No idea where you're trying to go
That's on you.

It's ridiculous to have stop line on main road in a T junction. Logically it doesn't make sense. If they really want cars to slow down on main road at a T junction, put a speed bump. Rich hillview resident may have paid to paint a stop line, but not generous enough to build a speed bump.
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In that fella eyes it make sense and fully rational, like roundabout term. If this argument make sense to him, he won't say im trolling.

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