Years ago I remember speaking to a person who also said the same words like you and he enjoyed Christian gospel songs.
He was a Malay working in the govt depts.

I suppose you're not of them from the religious affairs dept behind the keyboard, are you?

Understand.

no. not even a government servant

Is Christianity Idolatry?



Shame Kept You a Christian –Rabbi Tovia Singer

Christianity Made in Rome?



Why Does the New Testament Adore the Roman Empire?

do you know who's that guy?

nobody know him, even Yeeck from catholic thread said he's a nutcase

nobody know him, even Yeeck from catholic thread said he's a nutcase, just ignore him

I am interested to know what teachings of Jesus Christ in the Gospel that is outrageous etc etc according to this rabbi. If his claims of outrageous etc etc has nothing to do with Jesus Christ or His teachings at all, but about a few women at the cross or the church or the Roman Empire anything else that is not important, well he deserved to be ignored. Waste of bandwidth aje this rabbi. However it would be interesting to know if this rabbi is ashame and rejects the real Rabbi Jesus Christ himself.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Mar 5 2024, 11:04 PM

More than half a year nvr see bro UW post. Hope he's alright.

rabbi would be the worst person to learn about Jesus

Jews are mostly still waiting for their messiah, in vain

Saul of Tarsus was also a rabbi who persecuted followers of Jesus until his own conversion. Just saying...

The reason why I referenced Rabbis here is to proof to Christian Zionist hypocrites here who worship Israel on Sundays more than Christ himself, the true face of the Jews themselves who see Jesus as a mere child of a prostitute and a disgrace to their culture.

The hanging of Jesus on the cross is an abomination to the Jews because the was is meant to curse God and they would have nothing to do with him.
On the other hand, the Christians will carry the cross like a pride that would remind them that the savior took away their sins and would claim eligibility to heaven in their afterlife.

Why Don't Jews Want to Convert to Christianity?

Why? Because they can quote the Bible/original Torah better than delusional Christians?

But you know some protestant churches today preaches Israel more than Jesus themselves.

Every Sunday they'd ask their congregation to pray for Israel's victory in the Middle East.

What's Wrong with Christianity?



Do you call God your Father?



Do you serve the King or the Prince?

A man cannot forgive another man's sins but in Christianity teachings they claimed Jesus's sacrifice took away all of man's sins and paid the price.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (NKJV)



Ezekiel 18:21-22 (NKJV)



Bible clearly states that no man can die for the sins of others. But Jesus sent by God as the son of man claimed to do so. Isn't that contradicting as said by the Rabbi?

Taking verses out of context.

Yes, every person is responsible for their own sin. However, there are also sins causes by parents giving bad example or teaching bad things to their children. Also original sin caused by our first parents:

Deut 5:9
Thou shalt not adore them, and thou shalt not serve them. For I am the Lord thy God, a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon their children unto the third and fourth generation, to them that hate me,

Ps 50:7
For behold I was conceived in iniquities; and in sins did my mother conceive me.

So if let's say you're a convicted serial murderer or rapist sentenced to death for your crimes, can someone receive your death sentence on behalf of you and take over your criminal records? Also involving every convict out there awaiting death sentence just by his single death sentence, their sins are pardoned with a clean slate/records? This is an insane idea.

For a person who doesn't repent of his sins of course the curse will follow down his post generations to come.

The idea of Jesus alone is already a contradictory to what the Bible teaches and that is all to what Deuteronomy 24:16 meant.
He claimed to be sent down as a son of man(literally meaning he was a man walking on earth) how can his (one)sacrifice take away other men sins because no mans can take away another man's sin.

Now why didn't God just sent his son directly from the heaven instead of going through a woman's womb through labor and allowed him to be sacrificed infront of all Jews as witness that he wasn't man but God himself to save humanity. Won't that be a better narrative that will clear every one's doubt that he wasn't a prostitute's child with an untold worldly father? Isn't God almighty and could see the consequences of the future without flaws?

If every criminal or sinner can just have their sins pardoned and achieve salvation by just believing in him and receiving him into their lives then heaven will be a place filled with murderers, rapists and convicts rather than a paradise.

I wouldn't want to go to such heaven, it's much worse than the current life here on earth because you're going to meet bad hats all over for eternity.

The verses you quoted has nothing to do with resolving personal sin, you're just attempting to instill more guilt into people and sell the flawed idea that one man's sacrifice can clear their records. This is false hope.

The Rabbi made it very clear and logic to everyone, why go through a prince when you can directly contact the all seeing/powerful King?
Christianity only centers around the prince and that's where it falls short.

This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: Mar 7 2024, 08:25 PM

First of all, Jesus is not just man but also God.

Secondly, there was no pain of labour involved but let's leave it for another day. No it's not better just because you think it's better. His suffering shows that He is Man, His rising from the dead shows that He is also God. Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

And thirdly the verses I quoted are all from the Old Testament.

If Judaism is still valid, why was the Temple allowed to be destroyed and the sacrifices ceased?

This post has been edited by yeeck: Mar 8 2024, 09:58 AM

If every criminal or sinner can just have their sins pardoned and achieve salvation by just believing in him and receiving him into their lives then heaven will be a place filled with murderers, rapists and convicts rather than a paradise.

It is akin to telling us that it pays to be a criminal, scums of society rather than to be a law abiding, morally good hearted and helpful human who didn't believe in him and be condemned to hell eternally. How can human being so delusional.