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post Apr 21 2023, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 19 2023, 11:20 AM)
I’m not talking about the following of a religion, it is about being selected for an unknown purpose, therefore are protected and attacked at the same time

If I have to summarise my encounter in one word, it’s gang stalking, I was an atheist when this happened for the first time, I tried to find explanation to what I’m going through, from government surveillance to underground organisations, i looked through my history to find reasons for the stalking but to no avail.

The reason we found out is because the chosen ones have gathered to share information, many of us share the same or similar experiences 

None the less, we continue to live a normal life under all these surveillance, sabotages and strange favours, one thing I heard is that relationship will never work for us no matter how attractive we made ourselves, god will only assign a partner to us if our mission requires, but it is very rare, it bothers me a lot, I felt like I have missed out a beautiful thing in life, I fight it although I know nothing will work
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What you described is called being a Targeted Individual (TI) which is almost unheard of in Malaysia but it's very real among secret societies and underground officials.
Look up the term in Google.

I believe in what you're trying to express there and very true that secret societies do exists in traditional old churches, the RCC as well as modern day charismatic Pentecostal churches. It existed for many centuries among the Romans to gather sensitive intelligence from the public and control societies. Among them the Illuminati and Masons. The idea actually originated from the Jews who are the Fathers of COMMUNISM as it was derived from the Babylonian Talmud teachings among their tribes. The method was created to ensure that no rumors or hidden secrets could get out of their tribe back in the history. No stones are left unturned and no betrayers among their community.

Psychopaths, narcissists and power hungry people often dwell in communions where the public socializes. It makes churches and religion a very suitable choice for them to spread their influences, spy among the communities for rumors/inside news and mingle among the crowd.

You cannot put your full TRUST among society especially during the end times as warned in the Bible. The term of "Wolves in sheep skin" is very real. Solidarity and discernment through experience helps identify people whom you cannot trust despite them having very clean, humble and reputable image. The Bible again warns us in 2 Corinthians Chapter 11 that Satan presents himself to you as an angel of light to catch you off guard. He deceives and so are his followers who also may present themselves as saints, reputable faces, prominent figures but are devils in disguise all out to get you into trouble and make your life difficult.

There are 18 versus in the Bible which warns and tells us that in the days of end times it is advisable to be vigilant and live in solidarity(avoid socializing too much) among society except turst only your closest family members by "Escaping to The Mountains". https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Escaping-To-Mountains
1 Peter Chapter 5 says the devil prowls like a roaring lion which in today's society he is among your anyone in society it could be your best friends, a church leader/elder, a highly popular figure/face which has very high approval from public, the nicest person on the outer appearance but beware.

I am here to give you HOPE that you're NOT ALONE being stalked and intimidated by this secret groups of people. The more ALONE you are with no support of friends/families the deeper your FEAR will get yourself into until you might be driven into insanity if you're not strong willed. Wherever you are try to move to a new place or city for a new life.

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 17 2023, 08:44 AM)
I don’t know,

That’s why some of those who can sense us stalk and study us thinking that our education and career decisions can signify what we are being chosen for, or things we are interested/good in, the truth is no one can really find out until the time come, education and career is a great portion effort that people put into, what we are chosen for can still have nothing to with it
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Here are some advice if you suspect yourself being a TI or being gang stalked.
https://proclivitysprinciplewisdom.medium.c...do-8add497d45d4

The ancient writers of the Bible were well informed about being "gang stalked".

The article writes:
As comparative literature to the recorded research regarding the phenomenon in the Book of Job, we can illustrate how “the Satan”, provoking God regarding his faithful follower Job, by saying to him; “Have not you yourself put up a hedge about him and about his house and about everything that he has all around? The work of his hands you have blessed, and his livestock itself has spread abroad in the earth. But, for a change, thrust out your hand, please, and touch everything he has [and see] whether he will not curse you to your very face [Job 1:10–11].” So, what does God do, he allows Satan to torment Job just to see whether or not Job’s “free-will” might be changed. Job is transformed through the enforcement of purposeful loss of property and children by Satan as well as made to sacrifice through physical pain and suffering (torture) his health and wealth, reduced to a shadow of his former self for the purpose of change.As a result, Job becomes angry at God for punishing him for no good reason. Similar to how the TI feels about being mandated to sacrifice and lose through the physical pain of torture in the absence of any good reason. Of course, this theory makes the GAME OF THE TARGETED INDIVIDUAL highly unorthodox, inhumane, and illegal.

Your solutions? Since you cannot directly stop the invisible stalking and harassments,

1) You can temporarily or permanently change your physical location by leaving your property/environment.

2) Avoid doing things which gives you a bad impression of you like taking mental control drugs, alcohol or indulge in bad image activities such as adultery/non marriage sex.

3) Keep a journal close to you. Write every event you do everyday for record. If anything bad happens to you or some accident takes place make sure it gets to the hands of your closest family member safely.

4)Most importantly, stay alert, keep calm and never question your sanity. Things like this are authentic and happen daily to innocent people, perhaps even people you know. And do what is necessary to remain resilient in the face of this abuse.
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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 21 2023, 09:06 PM)
So am I or am I not a chosen one? I read your reply several times, I am still confused. It’s all deception? Can I trust the chosen community? Is it safe for us to talk further publicly? What will happen to me if I continue this conversation here? They gave me job and protected me from sabotages, am I risking that?

I have A LOT to ask and tell you if you are willing to listen. But just days after I share my exp here I received an update fromthe community that god wants us to keep silent, in an almost belittling and hostile tone, they say what they informed us is for our own vision not for convincing the others, they wouldn’t believe anyway, god will not bless us further if we continue to talk too much, I need you to tell me whether I can trust them

Thank you for being here, you’re the only local I can talk to about this, we constantly hear from the chosen community that we don’t need anyone, now im not even sure if I can trust them, but deep down I’m in desperate need for allies, especially local, I am very glad you are here.
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As a unknown friend across the screen which I might not know you in life, I advise you to take precaution and be careful of committing yourself to new age church movements, cults and secret societies of today.

When in church when people approach you in a very friendly manner like a close friend, a brother or fatherly figure to you when they try to get close to you with personal and sensitive questions always doubt prevent and be alert.

The New Age Movement, Churches, & Christians
https://robertwimer.com/the-new-age-movemen...hes-christians/

Are You Targetted/Chosen?


A testimony from an ex New Age Occultist who serves a church disguised as a church leader/elder/committee to recruit others:

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If you ask most Christians if they believe in reincarnation, healing crystals, or that Jesus was an alien hybrid, they would emphatically say “no”, but ask them about “Christ-consciousness”, Universalism, how you can speak to angels, Yoga, T.M. (Transcendental Meditation), or how to manifest miracles, you might get an earful of information from the person sitting next to you in Sunday services before the sermon.  Many within the church see the New Age movement as nothing more than something going on “over there” or a fad that happened back in the 70s, but the truth of it is, the New Age movement is a very real, evolving threat to the church, and most practice it in some way, shape or form.

As a former New Ager that went into the Occult, I would like to share my experiences as to what New Age actually is, how Christians & churches can easily become deceived, and know if you are “targeted”.

What is “New Age”

Think of the New Age movement as the “job fair” of spirituality.  At a job fair, space is rented for a day, where different businesses can set up shop for interested parties.  People walk around, looking at the different booths, talking with the individuals manning said booths, reading information about their company, and finally, making a choice as to whether or not they (the applicant) will join.

The New Age movement is basically the same thing.

Demons create a “spiritual space”, where a smattering of religions and belief systems are brought to the “arena” of New Age, where people can choose from a variety of ideas to believe in.  There are a plethora of things to choose from, and you will gravitate towards certain ideas based upon your nature and proclivities.  Have an interest in UFOs, there’s a “booth” for you.  How about peak performance, where the mind is explored at some point – yes, there’s a booth for that.  New Age takes from everything, including Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, Christianity, and hundreds of other religions & ideologies.

From this spiritual space, you are maneuvered into bondage into a particular idea set.  New Age is the “smiling salesperson” that always has a bright, shiny thing to show you and flattering words, but the whole goal is to get you deceived and into bondage.

How churches and Christians are easily deceived

When I got further into the Occult, my “handlers” (demons I was communing with) taught me how to specifically target Christians and churches.  In a nutshell, a Christian or church can be easily deceived when there are two things present:

1) Biblical illiteracy
2) Lack of the Holy Spirit


Dead churches and Christians always fell prey to the things I hate to say.  With a Biblically illiterate church/Christian, I could gain their trust easily through time, spout off some passages once trust and authority have been established, and nudge the individual or groups into a direction.  From there, it was easy to read their proclivities and “guide” them into the demonic spiritual space of the New Age, as it has many “access points” for which to further move the person/group further away from God.

An “access point” is any form of media (movies, shows, books, podcasts, etc.), speakers, or events that a person gives license to in their minds.  Basically, you’re giving the Devil a foothold by the things you are taking in, via your senses.  There are hundreds of thousands of access points within the New Age movement that will appeal to anyone.

I can tell you from experience that the Christian/church I encountered that said “I (we) won’t fall for that” were the FIRST to fall, as they have set themselves up in some way, shape, or form, as a god.  By today’s standards, the body of Christ is “low hanging fruit” for the experienced deceiver to pluck, to which I was one.  God, through His Word, tells us to be vigilant against such things.


If the text above was too long to read just watch the video in few minutes it summarizes everything you need to know about deception in the today's churches through infiltration and stealth by occultists.
I hope it helps you realize that in modern day and times better to be in solidarity and trust your own instinct/guts. Amen to you friend. Be vigilant and alert!

Do they often approach you after church? Take you out on a treat/meal to eat then start to ask very personal things about your life? RED FLAG

Careful of wolves in sheep's skin and demons there. An ex-church elder just revealed it in his testimony to the public that such secret cults/groups EXIST in the very safe place you ever think you can trust your worries/ask for help - The CHURCH

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 21 2023, 11:30 PM)
First of all will I potentially get into trouble by exposing this much here? Is me believing in the chosen one (anointed/selected by god), a result of them setting up the environment to deceive me into believing that? As described in the video

What is the purpose of giving me good job and protect me from sabotages? Is this blessing from god or a plot to something? I do need the job and the protection, am i risking that?

my super nice colleagues and course mates? They are protecting me from any potentially negative situation, why? In what way they are involved? Are they blessing or from the new age?

Can I trust my parents and siblings? I’m looking to buy an expensive car, They oppose my decision, should I take their advice or follow my instinct as you have said?
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Does your church know your forum account? Did you tell anyone else?

Trust your parents that's the number 1 priority, they're your only parents in this life only for once. That's the 5th of the 10th Commandments.

Next are your colleagues and course mates, are they from the same church? Are they mirroring and reinforcing the same promise as the person who told you that you're among the Chosen? IF yes, then you're almost surely in a cult church without knowing.

God blesses all his children unconditionally. He doesn't need to bribe his disciples to follow him. Only the devil bribes to win people over.

Trust your instinct, if you think it's a burden to buy an expensive car and you feel it's unnecessary then humbly explain to your parents about your concerns. Tell them your job is still not stable and your salary is not enough to take a loan yet.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 22 2023, 06:39 AM)
Surprised to see you here. And posting Christian advice.
You the one who posted reincarnation as a lost doctrine of the Christians?
And other seemingly contentiously anti Christ posts?
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1) I questioned the idea of reincarnation and the removal of its existence in Christianity doctrines by the Roman Empire during Emperor Justinian times to impose absolute obedience of its people towards the religion he controlled.
He only wanted his people to belief that there's only 1 chance in your entire lifetime to redeem your sins and to go to heaven. Scholars say the idea of it was to to seek control over his citizens and the only way to salvation was to go through his established Church under the Emperor's command.

2) Also I asked about Christ's real appearance, His complexion, His background and origins of his birthplace.

and How is that deemed anti Christ?
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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 22 2023, 08:37 AM)
They know everything I do, just that I simply don’t care, they always react to what I did yesterday in private and even my thoughts, my lowyat activitivites will not be a secret to them, I thought you already knew.

They are not even Christian, unless they all pretending. I was jobless, even when I have a job I get sabotaged and scapegoated till I lose my job, but now I’m given a good job, and good colleagues, my part time master course mate and supervisor are all good, I can tell they are protecting me from all the potentially negative scenarios, what is happening here? Will they take it away for exposing them here

They are always mirroring, that’s why I asked whether me being ‘chosen by god’ is just them setting up the environment just I change my behaviour from complete atheist to spiritual?

Is my singleness their doing? Why? I used to easily get date, now I can’t get anyone, even when I do I only get fat ones. And I myself is getting fat ever since I got this job, same like the China girl who expressed anger against the ccp for mind controlling and be given a meaningless job at local gov, she got fat too and she’s under surveillance all the time

Will I get a girlfriend under this game they are playing?

Is my loss of sex drive also their doing? Or is it god’s doing to protect me from sexual sins? How can I reverse my loss of sex drive?
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Sound very cult-like there.

I share with you my past experience too when I was younger more than 15 years back.

My past was very similar to you. Always very troubled, so many hardships faced. Then one day a group of friends lured me into attending some megachurch. They offered me all kinds of rewards and told me that my destiny was fated to be blessed by God. The kind of prosperity gospel they preached. Soon prominent figures came to offer me jobs/opportunities, offered me to test drive their luxurious cars and told me their extravagant lives was also bestowed to me if I joined them. It was so tempting but luckily humility, sanity and wisdom pulled me back from falling into the trap of bondages and oaths. They started giving me all the cold treatment and ignored me after that. Some of them not too happy about my decision gave me hell at work and spread hate all over my workplace, my circle of friends, my relatives and all over my life existence trying to make me look like a delinquent or problematic individual /mental case.

Learn to move on in life, get out of the current toxic place where you are, seek simplicity and be thankful of your life which God gave you. It might not be significant for you to feel meaningful but you will soon leave all the bad past and forgive that held you in the past. Do not let the past drag you moving forward.

Remember also this advise, the more knowledge gain the more sorrowful you'd become. That's why Jesus like children and everyone which thinks simple minded like them.

Mark 10:13-16 NKJV
Then they brought little children to Him, that He might touch them; but the disciples rebuked those who brought them. 14 But when Jesus saw it, He was greatly displeased and said to them, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. 15 Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.” 16 And He took them up in His arms, laid His hands on them, and blessed them.

QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 22 2023, 09:41 AM)
Targeted individual was the very first term I investigated when it first started. It mostly had nothing to do with religion but government surveillance using covert technology
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For centuries religion has always been part of government/politicians/elites/rich covert to control the masses. Not to say all but majority of them are coverts. It has been for centuries even as far as ancient Greek and Roman times.
I'm not saying all governments are involved but you have powerful establishments of influential/affluent people/families which control significant portions of a place's economy/monopoly will also wants to get their hand into religion.

It's all about society control of the masses.

They'd lure you into their group using baits and bribes like job opportunities, wealth, awards, worldly materials and fame. That's just the beginning.

The problem occurs later in your life when you discover of your manipulation and want out. That is when you start to become a Targeted Individual(TI) by the organization/powerful establishment. That's when the problem STARTS. Secret societies/cults don't like whistleblowers/ex-members going out exposing them. They'll seek to end your existence or destroy your life through powerful connections/influence. I pray that you do not fall into this bondage and seek a simple/humble life of fulfillment. Do not envy others and be thankful to God for being alive and free from debt when you wake up from bed daily.

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 22 2023, 02:12 PM)
You mentioned that I cannot stop the game directly, I can only mitigate

Does that mean I will never be allowed to date anyone under their spell?
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I don't recall saying anything about dating others?

Yes, mitigate. You can't really stop a legion of sociopaths/psychopaths who are convince to eliminate you in their circle/club when you want out. That is the nature of herd mentality of humans. That' is how cults, secret societies and the underground works. Not just religion but also in gangsterism brotherhood as such.

Once you're a caste away in your town/current place, the establishment/members/cults will be reminded about you from generation after generation through gossips, talks and rumors about you. From the workplace, to your church, to your neighbors, public everywhere. Worst is that you're placed under medication which you've mentioned earlier. Most will not trust you once they are aware that you're under medication.

But don't blame your parents who brought you to this life. They're your closest trusted ones which wants everything good for their child. My best advise to you is to start a new life outside this troubled place which you're currently based.
Wherever you go and whatever you do live a simple and debt free life. Don't make your life complicated or seek high ambitions. For such saying by King Solomon says everything in the material world is VANITY.

There are many of the richest people who fell in their life and discovered the true meaning of life. They repented or chose to live their lives in solidarity as monks instead of getting continually tortured by materialism/struggles/competition in life.

Ecclesiastes: The Bible Explained



Ecclesiastes in 7 Minutes
Wisest man known to be in existence, King of the Greatest nation on earth back in history, King Solomon born through adultery with his half brother wanted to murder his dad.



Proverbs and Song of Solomon were written at his peak, Ecclesiastes were believed to be written towards his later years of repentance after he fell.

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 22 2023, 04:17 PM)
But they are not eliminating me, i was jobless and miserable because my career reputation is destroyed, they gave me good job now, what do they want from me?

Why I never been able to find matches since 2021? Is it because of the sexual sin?
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The traits of all cults and secret societies are similar. To expand and to spread their influences. The more on their side the more powerful their sect will be.

What do they want in return from you? The same as how they recruited you to help them in recruiting others youths and potential targets in future. Be warned however that there is only one way in and no way out once you get committed. For their policy is only a dead man can keep secrets meaning they'll make you a "Targeted Individual" for character assassination.

When you want out in future or you realize about your manipulation wanting to repent it is often too late and is almost impossible to reverse things.

QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 22 2023, 05:36 PM)
I have just one question to the new age cult leaders/deep state/secret societies/satan/god

Will I get a girlfriend? If no I end my life right here, all the job and money mean nothing to me without relationship, nothing matters anymore

I give myself 2 months , if no girlfriend by then then I end the game by death

I went from easily 2-3 dates per month to absolute zero, how is that even possible, what amount of control they have

is it they use facial recognition to detect my account?
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Don't get obsessed about finding a soul mate that much let fate does its course. King Solomon had around 700 wives and it destroyed his life entirely until he repented towards his last days. Despite scoring that much with women he regretted entirely at the end of his life.

Also my brother in faith and friend, do away your thoughts about taking your own life. There is so much more things to look forward to in life than to end it meaninglessly without putting in your full effort in life to achieve your dreams. It's like dying the coward way for taking short cuts before doing your best aimlessly. When you feel like you're doing your best but not getting anywhere please look elsewhere or try something different. Do not lament on your pass or failures because it's one way God is telling you that the current things you're doing is not suitable for you.

Try something different, look elsewhere, seek people who can talk your lingo and have similar mindset as you. icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 22 2023, 07:23 PM)
You don't even believe that pigs are (rightly and scientifically proven) not good for human consumption, and that is why the Bible said not to eat pigs, yet you are here.  dry.gif
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Back during the Biblical times there weren't cold storage facilities to store and preserve meat.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 22 2023, 07:40 PM)
Why other meats can eat, but not pigs?
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Are you quoting this statement from some dead prophet who exists hundreds or thousand years ago?

If yes then you're not living in current times.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 22 2023, 07:46 PM)
If you cannot answer this, just say so lah. The Bible did not prohibit eating meat from other animals but pigs. Your explanation was they didn't have meat storage facilities....  doh.gif
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That speaks a lot of the Bible and its hypocrisy.

What Has The Bible Say Eating Pig
https://www.openbible.info/topics/eating_pig

Most Christians have been eating meat for their entire lives anything happened to them? laugh.gif




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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Apr 23 2023, 02:45 PM)
I think they will punish me for doing that

I unintentionally brought up this topic by replying here

Opening a thread would be intentional

i was given a job after keeping silence for awhile, I don’t know what will happen now

It is relevant to Christianity, I will not talk further if You don’t want me to, just that this is the first I met a local who knows about this after so many years
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This will be my FINAL reply here in this topic and I hope you will seek the peace and answers after this.

There are 3 solutions I can suggest to you from the least intrusive to the most extreme.

1) Sought a company or group of friends outside your current cult/secret society who has similar experience or also victims of your kind. Build influence and support but always be careful of imposters from your cult who will betray you further down the line, they'll send pretenders to talk nice and get you to reveal so that they can double cross you. Always observe attentively of signs for a mole, offers to give you free meals, you very nice initially, try to relate with your problem but act weird, etc. Be vigilant.
Make as much friends outside or non members of your church who can relate or are in similar personal problems like you.

2) Move far away and to an unknown environment with no members from your cult/church.
Start a new life and make new group of friends around your age and interests. Do not get involved in religion anymore.

3) This is the most RADICAL and EXTREME option. Consider converting your FAITH/RELIGION
Since the beginning of time, humans are ADAPTABLE, SLICK and RELATE to OTHERS who can help them. Your enemy's enemy is your best friend.
We only require religion as a guidance in life. Don't let them threaten you about HELL and ETERNAL damnation. So the human has to be flexible to counter threats and get out of bondages.
By changing religion and converting to another FAITH, you will GAIN protection against your CULT, gain new opportunities to your career/life/friends, access to girls which you weren't able to mix with previously.
Only take this route as last resort.

I wish you the best in your future and hope my advices gives you some insight about the underground world and danger of getting too involved in religions which requires you to take secret oaths, commit your entire life and sell your SOUL.

Be brave and always be humble. Do not take on debt or take secret oaths which commits your soul without return. It was nice chatting with you. Best wishes.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 23 2023, 08:10 PM)
Reincarnation is/was never taught by the Jewish sages.
You posted a presumptuous idea of it being removed without establishing the truth of reincarnation and Christian /Jewish doctrines.
That's being naughty/presumptuous /ignorant and smacks of anti Christ elements.
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Why Jewish knowledge of REINCARNATION was kept SECRET


How To Know If You Are A REINCARNATION


If you deny idea of reincarnation, then how will Christ return again to this world?

Reincarnation! Is it Biblical? You Won't Believe What I'm About To Tell You


John Was Elijah


The Roman emperor did not want someone who claimed that he was reincarnated of Jesus or past Kings who could challenged him. He wanted ABSOLUTE authority and the make his sect the only pathway to salvation to afterlife.
The entire idea was manipulated by human to control the masses.

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Apr 24 2023, 07:26 AM)
Even John is elijah, elijah was never death in the first place
Elijah and Enoch never see death. Get real lah
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How was Elijah ridiculously told by the Bible in the book of 2 Kings being brought up to heaven? A hurricane lifted him up there?

How did the Bible described Jesus ascension to heaven after His last supper? laugh.gif According to Luke wrote, they witness his ascension into the clouds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascension_of_Jesus

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Ok back to reality, if Jesus was resurrected and came back to life met with his disciples before ascending to heaven once again after another 40 days. Then why would he still leave worldly traces which archeologists today are still desperately trying to dig up his tomb and collect any remains of his DNA to try resurrecting him by cloning? Why are they trying to figure out his face with the linen cloth that was used to cover his body after murdering him with the claims of the Shroud of Turin?

He was supposed to fly back to heaven how come his physical human trace still lying around for humans to do evil and trying to clone him? and if they managed to clone modern Jesus using modern science, don't you think that touches the theory of "reincarnation" again?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 24 2023, 09:21 AM)
So you dug up Youtubes to that topic.
What does that prove?

You don't even understand the spirit of Elijah?

Luke 1:14 And you will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth, 15 for he will be great before the Lord. And he must not drink wine or strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb. 16 And he will turn many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God, 17 and he will go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready for the Lord a people prepared.”

So since you imply John is an reincarnation of Elijah, was Jesus a reincarnation of Moses or anyone else? Deut 18:18

And while you are at it, who reincarnated as Mary, Peter and Paul?

And if reincarnation is true, why do we need the Messiah?  There is nothing to save for God. Let the wheels of reincarnation rotate and no grace or mercy of God is required.
Why do have heaven when there is reincarnation?
Why do you need redemption of this  corrupted creation when every thing goes through reincarnation.
Let it be. Cycle and recycle.

Reincarnation is ANTI MESSIAH!
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Ridiculing others of using YouTube is no different from quoting from modern day religious scholars with medals and accolades. They're are all human awarded titles and claims using the power of influence and money.
Every power hungry or elite will claim he/she is God chosen because of influence of power and money backing them. They can tell you miracle magic shows are the truth whether you believe it or not but never question them back because you're not their level to doubt your masters.



The video above arguments are very valid. So if my statements offended anyone please forgive me. I have my reasons to seek the truth by asking if there're any doubts that comes to me.



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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Apr 24 2023, 09:51 AM)
So dude, you try to use science to verify bible? It can't, because like ant can't see pass few inches pmof  it's surrounding, science can't measure god
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If you don't, then how your Biblical scholars and funded archeologists that dug up historical sites claiming evidences of Jesus use? laugh.gif

QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Apr 24 2023, 09:52 AM)
YouTube are full of maniac like you. So their word is weight less than hot air
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Sure says the religious fanatics. Everything not pleasing to them is wrong and everyone who argues with them are labelled demons. Only their scholars and religious title holders are God chosen to tell the truth in everything.
The blood and power hungry Roman emperors and past medieval kings were all Saints. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 24 2023, 09:57 AM)
If you want to find topics on any subject, you will find it.
The thing is is all these are INCONSISTENT with the main tenets of the scriptures, Jewish and Christian.
And again i say: If Reincarnation is True, the gospel of the Messiah is a lie.
There is no need of a Messiah to save us from our sins if reincarnation is true.
ALL the main tenets of God, Christology, Salvation, eschatology, JUDGEMENT et all can be dumped into the bin.

That is YOUR challenge.

A simple illustration:
https://apologeticspress.org/reincarnation-...the-bible-1248/
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The Bible is full of quotes of men and their writing claims. What gives them more authority over others that they can't be doubted and challenged when people don't agree with them? In the earlier days blasphemy and condemnation meets anyone who defy them are met with death for defying laws.

The MESSIAH will return to save you when he is reincarnated. Even Jesus has to be born into this world by human mother to become the Son of God. He did not came straight from the heaven as a fully grown adult to save men as he ascended to heaven the other way around.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 29 2023, 09:54 AM)
What blind faith ? The Word of God in Holy Bible is very clear. Question is are we clear about the Word of God. I do not care if it's written by which men because the words are inspired by God and they are perfect..Sorry I don't believe in blind faith. Believing without understanding is really a dumb idea in my opinion. Since I have been promised an Advocate, the Advocate has not failed in his or her duty yet.

You are implying that God is a communist . And yes you are right because for our God is a jealous God, it's peppered throughout  in the Holy Scriptures.

Obviously you haven't heard of my Master's teaching, "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me." I see, no wonder your family comes first before God.

Or my Master teaching, "Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed". Now I say unto you, imagine the ecstacy of those who understands.
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Who is the Me?
Don't mistaken it for the angel of light.

Who is your Master who preaches from works and writings of men?

You are still promoting blind faith of the unknown there.

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