QUOTE(Grape Seed X @ Jul 7 2023, 02:26 AM)
Ooops, sorry man, just saw your post to me.
I understand what you're saying, but here's the difference.....I can't "faith it".
Sorry, but I really can't. The material world is more real to me than the spiritual. Which is exactly the oppo of what the bible says.
Can you walk on water? I can't. I know you can't either. & I dunno anyone who can.
Have you seen amputees regrow their limbs at healing rallies?
Have you heard an ass speak? How about a talking snake?
How about angels? Have you seen satan before? How about heaven or hell?
Dreams & visions are not good enough. Just mind tricks.
I need solid evidence. Unfortunately, there's simply not enough evidence for the christian god.
Evolution on the other hand, provides mountains of evidence. That we are a slow grinding process happening over thousands of generations.
Life is random. And this life is all there really is. Some truths are very hard to swallow, but it is what it is.
The afterlife is just a human construct. It's superstitious beliefs started by ancient Egyptians 6000 - 7000 years ago. That's 5000 B.C. !
Antiquated fairy tales that have managed to survive into modernity due to human superstition.
I wasted so much of my life being duped by Christianity
I know better now.
Christianity is built on the visions, dreams and fantasies of 1st century zealots, who couldn’t distinguish between their hallucinations and reality.
They knew nothing about evidence and labored under the misapprehension that what went on their own heads, was as real as what happened outside them.
Look, if you can hear the H.S. speaking to you, you better have yourself checked for schizophrenia

. That's all I'm saying.
https://infidels.org/library/modern/richard...rier-ntcanon/#6http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/postmonth/1996.htmli understand what you are saying and i think you have not really examined all the evidence available before coming to your conclusions.
the fact that you and i are using electronic devices to communicate our views to each other is actually the best evidence that there is a Creator
would you agree with me if i said that we, by that i mean living organisms, are much more complicated than the computers we are using to type our views?
living organisms are self powered, self propelled, self replicating. each individual cell is a complex structure by itself.
would you believe me if i told you that the device you are using, is the result of an accident, perhaps like a lightning bolt striking a pile of materials lying around and the heat melted the materials forming the device you now use?
you made a statement "evolution has mountains of evidence" . perhaps i am less well read but i have yet to come across these mountains that you speak of.
all i have seen are speculations based on speculations. every paper is richly peppered with terms like possibly, probably, and statements like these
But when given enough time and accumulated changes, natural selection can create entirely new species, a process known as "macroevolution,"
take a step back and ask your self, even if evolution is true, where did the very first organism emerge from?
how did this organism decide to adapt itself to suit it's environment? where did that intelligence to do so come from? before it adapted, how did it survive?
if evolution is true, how did so many species come to be in the same environment? shouldn't there be only just one species as it is most suited for that environment?
why then is there a whole ecosystem where each type of organisms serves as both prey and predator to other organisms and it meshes together as a self sustaining cycle?
in short, it actually takes much more faith to believe in evolution than to believe in a Creator.
and on afterlife being a human construct, wow, that is a very brave stand to take.
even Pascal dare not take that stand. (go look him up)
if i were you, i would examine the motivations that shape my choices, and if those motivations are sufficient to withstand judgement if it ever comes to that