Just asking my earlier questions for everyone benefit.
How do you confirm that you believe in the actual Jesus.
Even Muslims also say they believe in Jesus.
So what makes your Jesus different then the Jesus believed by the Muslims.

But muslim believe Isa is born of virgin Mary.
But why Isa have this kind of special privilege?

I applaud our brother & sisters in Christ of sharing our faith but the real danger doing this online without knowing who is actually behind the end of the other line, our words will be used against our very own brother & sister who are completely weak in their faith. The YouTube videos that I am coming across about Christians converting to other faiths, they are using the same Christian stories to suit and justify their narrative for conversion !

Agree. Something is seriously wrong when my church starts to replace our Holy Bible for any other textbook for Catechism classes. I was asked to teach Catechism in a Catholic school once and I was not allowed to use the Holy Bible ! You cannot imagine how ridiculous that sounds to me.

It is bad. Really bad. No wonder the little ones are completely at a lost.

The Word of God.

I will throw in some concerts and group open houses with tailored songs to my name, join me, oh my fellow followers.

I think most people misunderstood my question. But I thought I was pretty clear when I used Islam as an example. I was not just talking about Islam per say.
I was not just talking about the Jesus that Muslims believes per say. I was also talking about the Jesus that Mormons, Jehovoh Witness, Hinduism even so called "Christian" churches believes.

So just a question. How do you even know that the Jesus that you believe in is real. How certain are you that when you "die", you will actually go into sleep until you are "called" up by God. How certain are you.

Because for most Christians, when they believe. Life still goes on. It's like "hey I make a confession". Then maybe they go to church for a short while but then they stop but they believe that they will go to heaven just because they once make a confession. But then there is nothing different from them compared to the non Christians. They cursed, they drink etc. So how come they are still confident if they die, they will be going to heaven. Or this confidence is just syok sendiri. That's all.

And the other thing. What makes you think that your bible is the word of God. After all, there are so many different versions. And those versions have differences as even many scholars will say. So how can you tell others that the bible that you are using is perfect when there are so many differences in the different versions.

Ok fair enough. So can I say that more then 90% of the Christians out there are probably worshipping the false version since they do not even know about the Jesus they proclaimed?

Secondly, so you think salvation is something that is on going rather then the instant you believed?

Thirdly, so you cannot point towards a bible and say it's god's word then? Or god's word can be imperfect.
Your god is not capable of translating the Bible from Hebrew to English in a perfect manner then. You know in a language that people can actually understand. Not in an ancient Greek where even the Greeks themselves probably will find it difficult to understand.

Why would god only hide his truths in a language that 99% of the people cannot understand. So this god expects us to believe him when he does that?

1st. So you are implying that someone believing in the wrong jesus can be saved. So I guess Muslims, Jehovah Witness, Mormons, Free Masons and Hindus cannot be judged then. And there is no need to tell them about Jesus since they already believe in jesus.
2nd. So Jesus was lying then when He said whoever believed will have eternal live.
3r.d. You have not answered my question then. So is all of the bibles that are imperfect considered god's word then.
Are you sure the message is the same in all translations? For example one translation talks about salvation being instant while the other transactions talk about salvation being an ongoing process like you said. Are you 100% sure that the message is the same in all translations?

For example one translation talks about salvation being instant while the other transactions talk about salvation being an ongoing process like you said.

And I would like to add something. Why should I trust the bible more then any other religious text then if it's not 100% perfect.
Even Muslims claim that their text is 100% accurate.

You can say that all of the prophecies are fulfilled. But then you cannot say that the Bible is 100% accurate? And a Greek or Hebrew scholar is required in order to  tell me the truth? How can I trust this Greek scholar then that has no ulterior motives. Didn't the Bible mentioned before that the Heart is deceitful above all things? So why would I trust a Greek scholar to provide me the Truth then. Because if as you say the Truth is contained in the Greek text, then I have to rely on a Greek scholar to tell me the truth right?

And you still have not answered some of my harder questions.

So the god you believe in did not provide his bible in a way that the public can understand then. Yes or No?

If god wanted the people to know just the fundamentals, why would he provide a bible to do that? Isn't it a waste of time for people to read the bible just to know fundamentals that can be described in a few pages? I would think God wanted the people to know more then just the fundamentals that is why he provided the Bible dun you think? Maybe something slightly "deeper" then the fundamentals?

ok I understand where you are coming from when you are saying translations. So in other words, god did not provide his truth in a language that people can understand then but they have to learn Greek and Hebrew in order to truly read god's word. Is that where you are coming from as well?

It's ok.
Case proven.

And aren't you supposed to be the "Christian"?

No point in further discussions at this point but I will just entertain you by replying to your latest reply to me.
I will let the public judge for themselves at this point.

The way you answer my queries, I wonder if an actual unbeliever ask you those questions, what will their conclusion going to be? That Christianity is an unreasonable religion?

And I already answered your part on "perfect in the original text"? Your god is incapable of producing the Truth in the form that most people can understand? Why should people believe in your god then?

At least if there is a perfect form in English and Chinese or in any common language, I do not need a third party to interpret the language for me. So now I am not supposed to trust my own understanding of English or any other languages that I have spoken from? Then how about let's extend it. I cannot trust my thoughts as well since my thoughts were influenced by my education? So how far do you want to do?

And you still have not answered my question then. How can I trust the god that you believe in if He cannot provide His text in a form that most people can understand. See after all these while, you still cannot answer my question. So why continues?

Not a few pages. How about a few hundred pages. See you are already avoiding the main gist towards what I am saying. You are obviously defensive and not worthy of my time anymore

You keep talking about the Jews. When right now it's not about the Jews. See. You are even confused yourself. So why should I trust you in anything.

Point proven.

Like I said. Let the public judge for themselves.
My advice from you. Take your "Christian" blinkers off and see how ridiculous you sound all these while.
Of course. Most Malaysian "Christians" would probably be on your side. They do not even know who their real Christ is.

I myself love all the various different translations of our Holy Bible.

Here is my problem, even with all the various different translations, I still cannot find the translations in contradiction of each other. Maybe I am too dumb. 🙂

Ayam smells penguins reincarnated here.
This gonna be good.

You miss the point again. But I will pm you if you allow.

I dun mind spending time talking to you. But I dun want to just pm you and just get rejected out of a sudden.

But you are pretty near the Truth compared to that prophetjul guy for sure.

Looking at how fast he replies even though I did not tag him.

Looks like someone does not even have that peace that surpassed understanding.

And he seem to be worse then before. At least before the pandemic I would have a little respect for him. But now. No.

I remember this guy would at least block someone who is unreasonable and at least really not reply directly to a person who he has conflict with but now he seems to have behavior similar to another person in this thread. I guess it probably means that he really thinks I am "easy" meat and not very "unreasonable" that he has to "bully" me together with another person. At least in the past, he does not rely on "bullying" tactics.

It's that the Holy Ghost leading him to be worse?

I wonder why?

But speaking about prophecy. He really fulfils it.

What is faith? How is faith define? How do you know if you possess faith the Bible speaks of?