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post Jul 7 2023, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 3 2023, 09:03 AM)
Staying with God produces results

John 15:4 (NIV) - Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
Stay where God is. Stay with Him.

John 15 verse 4 explains that God is the source of power that produces in you results. Results of changed life, changed character, answered prayers, etc.

Perhaps it's time to let go of all your self conjured performances and rather..................allow God to empower you?

This is something that we are not conscious of. Because it does not originate from us therefore it comes not from us.

When it happens, it's akin to this bible verse.

Matthew 25:37-39 (NIV) - 37“ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

These righteous did not even know they did all the things that glorified God.

Stay humble, stay patience when we don't see results but remain in faith.

I've just witnessed a testimony of a Man of God who has done everything expected of a Christian and for 2 years there was nothing. But he remain in faith. After that 2 years something happened and his ministry was filled with God's miracles on weekly basis.

Sometime we need to be very patience, God does test us to see if we will remain faithful.

In the waiting period, love others, help others. Don't wallow in self pity. Encourage others.

God always look out for his own. And you are His.

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post Jul 7 2023, 08:39 PM

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Well, I have seen tumours disappear during church and I will always testify to that

But you must have a little faith first before you can see the evidence. And trust me my friend, even us who are more logical, evidentiary, Wesleyan minded... even we can be shown miracles

All I can say is that to me, Christianity is the most logical and most fruitful of religions - that asks its followers to do the most good

And to top off my logic, my faith has both been tested and rewarded

So that's all I can say. You can have a little faith to add to your big logical brain and believe it - I hope you do - if you like.

I believe God has given you (and me) a logical brain so you can strengthen your faith in Him, not to weaken your faith. It is a gift of the Spirit. Use it well!
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post Jul 7 2023, 10:16 PM

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For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. Kesian.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 5 2023, 02:43 PM)
Not scriptural imo. The fella maybe trolling for all we know, thinking it's fun to "kacau" Christians if I type in some bible jargon, put in a few fears and there it may trigger getting some people worried. I can smell a troll miles away.

Salvation is for all, not just for Jews. When a person is born again, his spirit is washed cleaned. DNA not relevant. God looks at the faith of the believer and the heart as well as the spirit of the person, not DNA.

The idea of Church institution or organization is from Christ himself. So are the ordinances of the 5 fold ministries.....Pastor, deacons, etc. It is not Man's idea.

God is the one who ordains preachers to preach.

Religion may be a problem but to me it's part and parcel of building any institution because we are all still human. Until Christ becomes the rightful ruler on earth we will always have some flaws in our institution. As long as it does not violate bible truths, I'm fine with it. 

What makes a person pure is the blood of Jesus Christ, a gift.

What is implied above is as if the person can be pure-hearted and soul on their own accord then only the Holy Spirit is activated is false doctrine.
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Apparently not just jews. This bloodline consists of 12 tribes to include different races and creeds who carry this chosen DNA

The guy has no visible credential to support that claim, but

The adversary, or antichrist in your context, comes into power through deception, how do you know organised religion isn’t the deception

doesnt a personal relationship with the universe/god makes more sense than an institution of believers with a set of guidelines distributed like a commodity

Do you know about targeted individuals? The chosen ones?

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post Jul 8 2023, 08:04 AM

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Cakap dah left Christianity but posting on a Christian thread. Hmmm macam tak logik je. Ye la got gift huh. Baik punya cerita. Ok I belip, so bila orang left Christianity mau leave Christian thread ?

Tak yah harap born again will ever stop worshiping the true living Almighty God. You do not even know who you are worshipping or maybe korang nak kita worship you kut. 🤣🤣🤣

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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 7 2023, 11:06 PM)
Apparently not just jews. This bloodline consists of 12 tribes to include different races and creeds who carry this chosen DNA

The guy has no visible credential to support that claim, but

The adversary, or antichrist in your context, comes into power through deception, how do you know organised religion isn’t the deception

doesnt a personal relationship with the universe/god makes more sense than an institution of believers with a set of guidelines distributed like a commodity

Do you know about targeted individuals? The chosen ones?
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Yup I agree with you. It's incredible hard (imo) to support such a claim.

Sad to say there are many organization already infiltrated by anti-Christ. For example the LBGT churches where they have pastors promoting LBGT.

And to some extend even christian churches where the focus is too much away from Christ.

To be honest I don't believe in such thing as targeted individuals but factually we have people with mental issues in this country due to depression, over-stressed, etc.

I could be wrong but I think it's more likely mental issues. They seeing into things that isn't there. Things like people watching them all the time, waiting to kidnap them at any opportunity these really sound incredibly like fiction imo.
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jul 7 2023, 08:39 PM)
Well, I have seen tumours disappear during church and I will always testify to that

But you must have a little faith first before you can see the evidence. And trust me my friend, even us who are more logical, evidentiary, Wesleyan minded... even we can be shown miracles

All I can say is that to me, Christianity is the most logical and most fruitful of religions - that asks its followers to do the most good

And to top off my logic, my faith has both been tested and rewarded

So that's all I can say. You can have a little faith to add to your big logical brain and believe it - I hope you do - if you like.

I believe God has given you (and me) a logical brain so you can strengthen your faith in Him, not to weaken your faith. It is a gift of the Spirit. Use it well!
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And i just had my miracle from the Lord.
Had a suspicious scarring of my lungs in a health screen in April. Specialist ordered a biopsy. I declined.
Lung scarring or fibrosis is a terminal disease with a 3 to 5 year lifespan outlook.

So he asked me to come back in July for another CT scan before anything further decision.
When i met him last week, he said: "I don't know what happened? The scarring is totally gone!"

GOD IS GOOD!


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 8 2023, 10:01 AM)
And i just had my miracle from the Lord.
Had a suspicious scarring of my lungs in a health screen in April. Specialist ordered a biopsy. I declined.
Lung scarring or fibrosis is a terminal disease with a 3 to 5 year lifespan outlook.

So he asked me to come back in July for another CT scan before anything further decision.
When i met him last week, he said: "I don't know what happened?  The scarring is totally gone!"

GOD IS GOOD!
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This is what I believe in.

Miracles are still happening because our God is the true and living God faithful to his promises. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 8 2023, 10:27 AM)
This is what I believe in.

Miracles are still happening because our God is the true and living God faithful to his promises. thumbup.gif
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Indeed. God is living. But i do not believe in tele evangelist preaching on healing. biggrin.gif
There are many faithful who are not healed and gone home.
i have no qualms going home sooner. However, i just requested the Lord to allow me to be able to meet my grandchildren. biggrin.gif

But God does heal. At His own will.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 8 2023, 10:01 AM)
And i just had my miracle from the Lord.
Had a suspicious scarring of my lungs in a health screen in April. Specialist ordered a biopsy. I declined.
Lung scarring or fibrosis is a terminal disease with a 3 to 5 year lifespan outlook.

So he asked me to come back in July for another CT scan before anything further decision.
When i met him last week, he said: "I don't know what happened?  The scarring is totally gone!"

GOD IS GOOD!
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amazing
that's another one for the books
and yes, that's exactly the modus operandi I've heard and seen over and over again
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 8 2023, 10:31 AM)
Indeed. God is living. But i do not believe in tele evangelist preaching on healing.  biggrin.gif
There are many faithful who are not healed and gone home.
i have no qualms going home sooner. However, i just requested the Lord to allow me to be able to meet my grandchildren.  biggrin.gif

But God does heal. At His own will.
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For me I'm always open.

I'm always looking to God to reach out via anything even evangelist in TV. But that is me lah.

Many times I sense God's presence and God ministering.

True, there are people whose life their time has come and God is calling them home.

Healing would have been irrelevant for these.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 7 2023, 09:00 AM)
The existence of creatures and the life of humans convince me there is God. Personally it's hard for me to accept life can materialize out of nothing or that it's origin came from space.

To me that theory sounds as bad as how atheist thinks about existence God.

That is my basic foundation thus far.

But I guess the reason why you left is because you had bad understanding of Christianity. The core theology has not been presented correctly to you.

Most people find it hard to believe because first of all their believe system at the root is wrong.
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There is no wrong to believe in a Creator but when it becomes very wrong when man starts to make their own laws and religions claiming they know about the Creator more than anyone else and playing representative of God.

Who is man to tell other men that he is chosen and needs to relay God's will and wants? Does God play favoritism? What makes these religion men think that they're holier and more worthy than others to spread God's messages?

Why does God need middle men to do his will? Every nation and race has their own version of God what makes you think that yours is the true one and others are not? If you insists to impose on others your beliefs than what difference does it makes that you're sending an invitation of war to other nations and exercising your force on their part?

Anyone can compile a book(presumed to be under the guidance of the Holy Spirit) and filter out all that is disagreeable/unwanted then claim it's by God. Very convenient and cunning then relate them with governing society.

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"Since inspiration always come through a human vehicle, it is liable to be distorted by the vehicle itself for personal interests."


Jesus said, "Isn't it written in your law I have said that you are Gods?"




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I stopped at "Thanks to the Catholic church".

i wonder what Jesus was saying????????

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These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 8 2023, 01:34 PM)
I stopped at "Thanks to the Catholic church".

i wonder what Jesus was saying????????
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It was the Roman Catholics and their Rulers who compiled the Holy Bible under the "presumed" guidance of the Holy Spirit/God.
Protestants broke out from the main branch.

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 8 2023, 01:37 PM)
It was the Roman Catholics and their Rulers who compiled the Holy Bible under the "presumed" guidance of the Holy Spirit/God.
Protestants broke out from the main branch.
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That's your presumption. Before the bible, there was the TANAKH.

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These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 8 2023, 01:41 PM)
That's your presumption. Before the bible, there was the TANAKH.
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Well almost all mainstream denomination of the churches still uses the Hole Bible to preach?

Your TANAKH is still man written and subjected to human own writings/interpretations of divine "guidance" from a higher being. The same goes for all the other religions who wrote their Sutras, Bhagavad Gita etc.

Why the emphasis on just one race being chosen and rightful over the rest of other nations and races?
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 8 2023, 01:45 PM)
Well almost all mainstream denomination of the churches still uses the Hole Bible to preach?

Your TANAKH is still man written and subjected to human own writings/interpretations of divine "guidance" from a higher being. The same goes for all the other religions who wrote their Sutras, Bhagavad Gita etc.

Why the emphasis on just one race being chosen and rightful over the rest of other nations and races?
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First of all, your posted vid is erroneous to say that the bible comes from the RCC.
The Tanakh was already accepted as scriptures in the time of Jesus. 2nd error.

God chose Israel to bring forth His Messiah and plan of salvation. The plan is for the world.
If He chose Msia, you would still ask the same.
None of the other religions were able to demonstrate their power over life and death.
Jesus resurrected from the dead to demonstrate God's power over life and death, of which men has the greatest fear and lack of knowledge of. Therefore, a DEMONSTRATION would alleviate that fear of death and the unknown after.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 8 2023, 01:10 PM)
There is no wrong to believe in a Creator but when it becomes very wrong when man starts to make their own laws and religions claiming they know about the Creator more than anyone else and playing representative of God.

Who is man to tell other men that he is chosen and needs to relay God's will and wants? Does God play favoritism? What makes these religion men think that they're holier and more worthy than others to spread God's messages?

Why does God need middle men to do his will? Every nation and race has their own version of God what makes you think that yours is the true one and others are not? If you insists to impose on others your beliefs than what difference does it makes that you're sending an invitation of war to other nations and exercising your force on their part?

Anyone can compile a book(presumed to be under the guidance of the Holy Spirit) and filter out all that is disagreeable/unwanted then claim it's by God. Very convenient and cunning then relate them with governing society.

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Jesus said, "Isn't it written in your law I have said that you are Gods?"


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Who are you trying to imply now?


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 8 2023, 01:59 PM)
Who are you trying to imply now?
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I'm saying it's no wrong to believe in a Creator but RELIGION is often distorted because laws and teachings are by men.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 8 2023, 01:59 PM)
First of all, your posted vid is erroneous to say that the bible comes from the RCC.
The Tanakh was already accepted as scriptures in the time of Jesus. 2nd error.

God chose Israel to bring forth His Messiah and plan of salvation. The plan is for the world.
If He chose Msia, you would still ask the same.
None of the other religions were able to demonstrate their power over life and death.
Jesus resurrected from the dead to demonstrate God's power over life and death, of which men has the greatest fear and lack of knowledge of. Therefore, a DEMONSTRATION would alleviate that fear of death and the unknown after.
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If the TANAKH predates the Bible then why modern day Christian denominations doesn't preach from it? Why does the Jews only keep it for themselves? They still got hidden things that cannot be revealed/unfinished writings for the gentiles?

You don't go around telling people that you're CHOSEN and all that nonsense. Other nations and races will feel insulted and challenged by such claims. God does not practice favoritism and prejudism.

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