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post Apr 24 2023, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 24 2023, 09:57 AM)
If you want to find topics on any subject, you will find it.
The thing is is all these are INCONSISTENT with the main tenets of the scriptures, Jewish and Christian.
And again i say: If Reincarnation is True, the gospel of the Messiah is a lie.
There is no need of a Messiah to save us from our sins if reincarnation is true.
ALL the main tenets of God, Christology, Salvation, eschatology, JUDGEMENT et all can be dumped into the bin.

That is YOUR challenge.

A simple illustration:
https://apologeticspress.org/reincarnation-...the-bible-1248/
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The Bible is full of quotes of men and their writing claims. What gives them more authority over others that they can't be doubted and challenged when people don't agree with them? In the earlier days blasphemy and condemnation meets anyone who defy them are met with death for defying laws.

The MESSIAH will return to save you when he is reincarnated. Even Jesus has to be born into this world by human mother to become the Son of God. He did not came straight from the heaven as a fully grown adult to save men as he ascended to heaven the other way around.

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 24 2023, 10:17 AM)
The Bible is full of quotes of men and their writing claims. What gives them more authority over others that they can't be doubted and challenged when people don't agree with them? In the earlier days blasphemy and condemnation meets anyone who defy them are met with death for defying laws.

The MESSIAH will return to save you when he is reincarnated. Even Jesus has to be born into this world by human mother to become the Son of God. He did not came straight from the heaven as a fully grown adult to save men as he ascended to heaven the other way around.
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The prophets of old who wrote the inspired revelations of God's messiah were recognised as men in the Jewish community and then nation of Israel to be God's mouth pieces.
Prophets like Moses, David, Isaiah etc were accepted as proven prophets of God and their writings deemed as inspired of God.
And indeed, their writings had ONE central theme: God's MESSIAH who will save His people from their sins.

" The MESSIAH will return to save you when he is reincarnated" You do understand the idea of reincarnation?
Just to avoid doubt: reincarnation is the “rebirth of the soul in another body.”
Where/when if Jesus rebirth in another body?

And i hope you understand INCARNATION of God of which you just described.
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Hi petpenyubobo.

Sorry but in Christianity there is no reincarnation.

Not recorded and neither taught by anyone in scripture, more so by God.

You have been given just this life and just this body. After you die, your spirit will meet God for judgement.

* Yes I know you don't believe in this, which is why I kindly request , let there be no argument on this.

This place is solely for Christian postings. Not religious argument.

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 23 2023, 07:51 PM)
This will be my FINAL reply here in this topic and I hope you will seek the peace and answers after this.

There are 3 solutions I can suggest to you from the least intrusive to the most extreme.

1) Sought a company or group of friends outside your current cult/secret society who has similar experience or also victims of your kind. Build influence and support but always be careful of imposters from your cult who will betray you further down the line, they'll send pretenders to talk nice and get you to reveal so that they can double cross you. Always observe attentively of signs for a mole, offers to give you free meals, you very nice initially, try to relate with your problem but act weird, etc. Be vigilant.
Make as much friends outside or non members of your church who can relate or are in similar personal problems like you.

2) Move far away and to an unknown environment with no members from your cult/church.
Start a new life and make new group of friends around your age and interests. Do not get involved in religion anymore.

3) This is the most RADICAL and EXTREME option. Consider converting your FAITH/RELIGION
Since the beginning of time, humans are ADAPTABLE, SLICK and RELATE to OTHERS who can help them. Your enemy's enemy is your best friend.
We only require religion as a guidance in life. Don't let them threaten you about HELL and ETERNAL damnation. So the human has to be flexible to counter threats and get out of bondages.
By changing religion and converting to another FAITH, you will GAIN protection against your CULT, gain new opportunities to your career/life/friends, access to girls which you weren't able to mix with previously.
Only take this route as last resort.

I wish you the best in your future and hope my advices gives you some insight about the underground world and danger of getting too involved in religions which requires you to take secret oaths, commit your entire life and sell your SOUL.

Be brave and always be humble. Do not take on debt or take secret oaths which commits your soul without return. It was nice chatting with you. Best wishes.
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actually how sure are you about trusting family

it becomes increasingly difficult to trust my mother, not only she was the one who pushed me to seek psychiatry help, everything i told her my colleagues seem to know and they use the information to gaslight me, makes me wonder whether my family member(s) are involved

they selectively react to the information i shared in private, it appears that they are getting the information from a particular source and it gets filtered by that source so they only receive intel that fits the source's agenda

or they are simply cherry picking content they want to use to gaslight me

none of them reacted to my lowyat post so far, i highly doubt that they are unaware of my lowyat activities considering the depth of surveillance they've been pulling

but they do react to the my conversation with my mother in private, strange

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 25 2023, 09:25 AM)
Hi petpenyubobo.

Sorry but in Christianity there is no reincarnation.

Not recorded and neither taught by anyone in scripture, more so by God.

You have been given just this life and just this body. After you die, your spirit will meet God for judgement.

* Yes I know you don't believe in this, which is why I kindly request , let there be no argument on this.

This place is solely for Christian postings. Not religious argument.
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The idea is to sow the seed of doubt. Now I understand the mission of the chosen one like a lion waiting to pounce.

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post Apr 29 2023, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 29 2023, 09:27 AM)
To promote blind faith in any religion is a very dangerous approach since all religions were written by men's own selective records. It's like asking a believer to take a gamble on their life.

If you talk about lion pouncing on their preys, then you should be careful of the real enemy who comes in the form of an angel of light. Someone which tries to be the nicest person you've ever met, talk like he/she can solve all your problems in life, tells you he is like your family member you cares for you.

The complexity of human mind is narcissistic, sly and envy beyond morality in their quest to obtain authority power over others. Also for survival.

Last thing you want is to mix up your career, your personal private life with religion. I trust my family and parents first before religion. The communist ideology promotes the other way around.
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What blind faith ? The Word of God in Holy Bible is very clear. Question is are we clear about the Word of God. I do not care if it's written by which men because the words are inspired by God and they are perfect..Sorry I don't believe in blind faith. Believing without understanding is really a dumb idea in my opinion. Since I have been promised an Advocate, the Advocate has not failed in his or her duty yet.

You are implying that God is a communist . And yes you are right because for our God is a jealous God, it's peppered throughout in the Holy Scriptures.

Obviously you haven't heard of my Master's teaching, "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me." I see, no wonder your family comes first before God.

Or my Master teaching, "Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed". Now I say unto you, imagine the ecstacy of those who understands.

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 29 2023, 09:27 AM)
To promote blind faith in any religion is a very dangerous approach since all religions were written by men's own selective records. It's like asking a believer to take a gamble on their life.

If you talk about lion pouncing on their preys, then you should be careful of the real enemy who comes in the form of an angel of light. Someone which tries to be the nicest person you've ever met, talk like he/she can solve all your problems in life, tells you he is like your family member you cares for you.

The complexity of human mind is narcissistic, sly and envy beyond morality in their quest to obtain authority power over others. Also for survival.

Last thing you want is to mix up your career, your personal private life with religion. I trust my family and parents first before religion. The communist ideology promotes the other way around.
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Sometime I wonder if you actually bother to think through before posting what you say in here.

To consider thinking who are the people in this Christian Fellowship thread, whether the people in here have been through so much in their live with their faith in God that your words will be automatically seen

as full of ignorance if not being completely blind in itself in darkness.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 29 2023, 04:45 AM)
The idea is to sow the seed of doubt. Now I understand the mission of the chosen one like a lion waiting to pounce.
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Same thing with what is happening in RWI.

I'm seeing for a while now the devil uses spirit of religion in argumentative people to cause further confusion and division.

I came to realize for awhile this entire forum ie being guarded spiritually.

Romans Catholic, it's not enough to just post opinion.

Prayer is much needed.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 29 2023, 10:04 AM)
Same thing with what is happening in RWI.

I'm seeing for a while now the devil uses spirit of religion in argumentative people to cause further confusion and division.

I came to realize for awhile this entire forum ie being guarded spiritually.

Romans Catholic, it's not enough to just post opinion.

Prayer is much needed.
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It is the same everywhere, even within the Catholic community.

While prayer is good but prayer is not everything. What is really in needed is the studying of Holy Scriptures under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

The end result will be, there are those who comes in their own name and there are those who will come in the name of our Lord. How blessed are those who comes in the name of our Lord.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 29 2023, 09:54 AM)
What blind faith ? The Word of God in Holy Bible is very clear. Question is are we clear about the Word of God. I do not care if it's written by which men because the words are inspired by God and they are perfect..Sorry I don't believe in blind faith. Believing without understanding is really a dumb idea in my opinion. Since I have been promised an Advocate, the Advocate has not failed in his or her duty yet.

You are implying that God is a communist . And yes you are right because for our God is a jealous God, it's peppered throughout  in the Holy Scriptures.

Obviously you haven't heard of my Master's teaching, "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me." I see, no wonder your family comes first before God.

Or my Master teaching, "Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed". Now I say unto you, imagine the ecstacy of those who understands.
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Who is the Me?
Don't mistaken it for the angel of light.

Who is your Master who preaches from works and writings of men?

You are still promoting blind faith of the unknown there.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 29 2023, 10:11 AM)
It is the same everywhere, even within the Catholic community.

While prayer is good but prayer is not everything. What is really in needed is the studying of Holy Scriptures under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

The end result will be, there are those who comes in their own name and there are those who will come in the name of our Lord. How blessed are those who comes in the name of our Lord.
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I have to respectfully disagree. For example as what you indicated above.

Reading the bible without prayer to the Holy Spirit to give understanding will lead to same problem of what I was trying to imply.

For me Prayer is mandatory and highly much needed.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 29 2023, 10:16 AM)
Who is the Me?
Don't mistaken it for the angel of light.

Who is your Master who preaches from works and writings of men?

You are still promoting blind faith of the unknown there.
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Me is God la.

My Master is Jesus Christ.

Walau takkan you dunno that you are the blind dude leading another blind dude as written in Holy Scriptures.

Don't write to me no more. I am not interested. You are going straight into my ignore List for your intelligence.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 29 2023, 10:16 AM)
Who is the Me?
Don't mistaken it for the angel of light.

Who is your Master who preaches from works and writings of men?

You are still promoting blind faith of the unknown there.
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You are trying to twist every good word of God into seeds of doubt.

From your first postings about Christian reincarnation till now, you have been sowing the seeds of doubt into the Christian community.

Methinks YOU are masquerading as the angel of light.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 25 2023, 09:25 AM)
Hi petpenyubobo.

Sorry but in Christianity there is no reincarnation.

Not recorded and neither taught by anyone in scripture, more so by God.

You have been given just this life and just this body. After you die, your spirit will meet God for judgement.

* Yes I know you don't believe in this, which is why I kindly request , let there be no argument on this.

This place is solely for Christian postings. Not religious argument.
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Man was already dead ever since he ate the forbidden fruit of knowledge. Genesis 2:17

As a result, women have to continue bearing children to continue the cycle of human existence. Genesis 3:16 (NKJV)

therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life. Genesis 3:23 (NKJV)

Adam and Eve lost their immortality as a result of committing sin after eating the fruit of knowledge. For as long as human population keeps growing and women bearing child the cycle of life with suffering will never end.



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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 29 2023, 10:39 AM)
Man was already dead ever since he ate the forbidden fruit of knowledge. Genesis 2:17

As a result, women have to continue bearing children to continue the cycle of human existence. Genesis 3:16 (NKJV)

therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life. Genesis 3:23 (NKJV)

Adam and Eve lost their immortality as a result of committing sin after eating the fruit of knowledge. For as long as human population keeps growing and women bearing child the cycle of life with suffering will never end.
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I take note you're talking from Buddhist POV. Keyword = Suffering. I'm familiar with such argument.

Not so for Christians. We have the second Adam (Christ Jesus)

John 10:10 (NIV) - The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

All born again children of God are restored back to what was lost by Adam. We are secured by God himself.

All sufferings and the system of this fallen world will end with new Heaven and Earth.

Your argument is lopsided.


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 29 2023, 10:48 AM)
I take note you're talking from Buddhist POV. Keyword = Suffering. I'm  familiar with such argument.

Not so for Christians. We have the second Adam (Christ Jesus)

John 10:10 (NIV) - The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

All born again children of God are restored back to what was lost by Adam. We are secured by God himself.

All sufferings and the system of this fallen world will end with new Heaven and Earth.

Your argument is lopsided.
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bro u are the leader here

u gotta be tough on people who are tryin to mislead here with nonsense

just remove em
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 29 2023, 10:48 AM)
I take note you're talking from Buddhist POV. Keyword = Suffering. I'm  familiar with such argument.

Not so for Christians. We have the second Adam (Christ Jesus)

John 10:10 (NIV) - The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

All born again children of God are restored back to what was lost by Adam. We are secured by God himself.

All sufferings and the system of this fallen world will end with new Heaven and Earth.

Your argument is lopsided.
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Jesus was not the first. Abel was the first victim of human hate and sacrifice for human jealousy.
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QUOTE(GaunterO'Dimm @ Apr 29 2023, 10:54 AM)
bro u are the leader here

u gotta be tough on people who are tryin to mislead here with nonsense

just remove em
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Jesus went through the same persecution. The pharisees crucified him for challenging them to question the truth.

I'm fine if you don't want me around any longer. I won't post anymore if you find me a threat.

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