1) I questioned the idea of reincarnation and the removal of its existence in Christianity doctrines by the Roman Empire during Emperor Justinian times to impose absolute obedience of its people towards the religion he controlled.
He only wanted his people to belief that there's only 1 chance in your entire lifetime to redeem your sins and to go to heaven. Scholars say the idea of it was to to seek control over his citizens and the only way to salvation was to go through his established Church under the Emperor's command.

2) Also I asked about Christ's real appearance, His complexion, His background and origins of his birthplace.

and How is that deemed anti Christ?

You don't even believe that pigs are (rightly and scientifically proven) not good for human consumption, and that is why the Bible said not to eat pigs, yet you are here. 

Back during the Biblical times there weren't cold storage facilities to store and preserve meat.

Why other meats can eat, but not pigs?

Are you quoting this statement from some dead prophet who exists hundreds or thousand years ago?

If yes then you're not living in current times.

If you cannot answer this, just say so lah. The Bible did not prohibit eating meat from other animals but pigs. Your explanation was they didn't have meat storage facilities.... 

The traits of all cults and secret societies are similar. To expand and to spread their influences. The more on their side the more powerful their sect will be.

What do they want in return from you? The same as how they recruited you to help them in recruiting others youths and potential targets in future. Be warned however that there is only one way in and no way out once you get committed.  For their policy is only a dead man can keep secrets meaning they'll make you a "Targeted Individual" for character assassination.

When you want out in future or you realize about your manipulation wanting to repent it is often too late and is almost impossible to reverse things.
Don't get obsessed about finding a soul mate that much let fate does its course. King Solomon had around 700 wives and it destroyed his life entirely until he repented towards his last days. Despite scoring that much with women he regretted entirely at the end of his life.

Also my brother in faith and friend, do away your thoughts about taking your own life. There is so much more things to look forward to in life than to end it meaninglessly without putting in your full effort in life to achieve your dreams. It's like dying the coward way for taking short cuts before doing your best aimlessly. When you feel like you're doing your best but not getting anywhere please look elsewhere or try something different. Do not lament on your pass or failures because it's one way God is telling you that the current things you're doing is not suitable for you.

Try something different, look elsewhere, seek people who can talk your lingo and have similar mindset as you.

Hi somewhataut and petpenyubobo,

Can I kindly request that we keep this Christian Fellowship thread back to Christian fellowship postings?

I believe your situation although is interesting and unique but it has nothing really to do with Christianity?

Thanks.

Perhaps somewhataut you can open a thread about your situation in RWI

https://forum.lowyat.net/RealWorldIssues
I think it's more suited there. Quite sure you will have more input there.

I think they will punish me for doing that

I unintentionally brought up this topic by replying here

Opening a thread would be intentional

i was given a job after keeping silence for awhile, I don’t know what will happen now

It is relevant to Christianity, I will not talk further if You don’t want me to, just that this is the first I met a local who knows about this after so many years

1) I questioned the idea of reincarnation and the removal of its existence in Christianity doctrines by the Roman Empire during Emperor Justinian times to impose absolute obedience of its people towards the religion he controlled.
He only wanted his people to belief that there's only 1 chance in your entire lifetime to redeem your sins and to go to heaven. Scholars say the idea of it was to to seek control over his citizens and the only way to salvation was to go through his established Church under the Emperor's command.

2) Also I asked about Christ's real appearance, His complexion, His background and origins of his birthplace.

and How is that deemed anti Christ?

Reincarnation is/was never taught by the Jewish sages.
You posted a presumptuous idea of it being removed without establishing the truth of reincarnation and Christian /Jewish doctrines.
That's being naughty/presumptuous /ignorant and smacks of anti Christ elements.

Why Jewish knowledge of REINCARNATION was kept SECRET


How To Know If You Are A REINCARNATION


If you deny idea of reincarnation, then how will Christ return again to this world?

Reincarnation! Is it Biblical? You Won't Believe What I'm About To Tell You


John Was Elijah


The Roman emperor did not want someone who claimed that he was reincarnated of Jesus or past Kings who could challenged him. He wanted ABSOLUTE authority and the make his sect the only pathway to salvation to afterlife.
The entire idea was manipulated by human to control the masses.

Why Jewish knowledge of REINCARNATION was kept SECRET


How To Know If You Are A REINCARNATION


If you deny idea of reincarnation, then how will Christ return again to this world?

Reincarnation! Is it Biblical? You Won't Believe What I'm About To Tell You


John Was Elijah


The Roman emperor did not want someone who claimed that he was reincarnated of Jesus or past Kings who could challenged him. He wanted ABSOLUTE authority and the make his sect the only pathway to salvation to afterlife.
The entire idea was manipulated by human to control the masses.

Even John is elijah, elijah was never death in the first place
Elijah and Enoch never see death. Get real lah

So you dug up Youtubes to that topic.
What does that prove?

You don't even understand the spirit of Elijah?

Luke 1:14 And you will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth, 15 for he will be great before the Lord. And he must not drink wine or strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb. 16 And he will turn many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God, 17 and he will go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready for the Lord a people prepared.”

So since you imply John is an reincarnation of Elijah, was Jesus a reincarnation of Moses or anyone else? Deut 18:18

And while you are at it, who reincarnated as Mary, Peter and Paul?

And if reincarnation is true, why do we need the Messiah?  There is nothing to save for God. Let the wheels of reincarnation rotate and no grace or mercy of God is required.
Why do have heaven when there is reincarnation?
Why do you need redemption of this  corrupted creation when every thing goes through reincarnation.
Let it be. Cycle and recycle.

Reincarnation is ANTI MESSIAH!

How was Elijah ridiculously told by the Bible in the book of 2 Kings being brought up to heaven? A hurricane lifted him up there?

How did the Bible described Jesus ascension to heaven after His last supper?  According to Luke wrote, they witness his ascension into the clouds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascension_of_Jesus



Ok back to reality, if Jesus was resurrected and came back to life met with his disciples before ascending to heaven once again after another 40 days. Then why would he still leave worldly traces which archeologists today are still desperately trying to dig up his tomb and collect any remains of his DNA to try resurrecting him by cloning? Why are they trying to figure out his face with the linen cloth that was used to cover his body after murdering him with the claims of the Shroud of Turin?

He was supposed to fly back to heaven how come his physical human trace still lying around for humans to do evil and trying to clone him? and if they managed to clone modern Jesus using modern science, don't you think that touches the theory of "reincarnation" again?

Ridiculing others of using YouTube is no different from quoting from modern day religious scholars with medals and accolades. They're are all human awarded titles and claims using the power of influence and money.
Every power hungry or elite will claim he/she is God chosen because of influence of power and money backing them. They can tell you miracle magic shows are the truth whether you believe it or not but never question them back because you're not their level to doubt your masters.



The video above arguments are very valid. So if my statements offended anyone please forgive me. I have my reasons to seek the truth by asking if there're any doubts that comes to me.

Ridiculing others of using YouTube is no different from quoting from modern day religious scholars with medals and accolades. They're are all human awarded titles and claims using the power of influence and money.
Every power hungry or elite will claim he/she is God chosen because of influence of power and money backing them. They can tell you miracle magic shows are the truth whether you believe it or not but never question them back because you're not their level to doubt your masters.



The video above arguments are very valid. So if my statements offended anyone please forgive me. I have my reasons to seek the truth by asking if there're any doubts that comes to me.

One straightforward statement that speaks directly to the idea of reincarnation is found in Hebrews 9:27-28: “And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many” Without any vague terms, the writer of Hebrews explains that the general course of man’s existence is to taste death only once, and then be judged based on the actions that were accomplished in that one life. In order to underscore the number of times a person dies, the inspired writer declared that men die the same number of times that Christ was offered on the cross—only once. Such a statement goes a long way to prove that the Bible does not teach for reincarnation. (This verse deals with the generality of man’s existence, and excludes miraculous situations, where Christ, an apostle, or a prophet raised someone from the dead.)

Another biblical passage that militates against the idea of reincarnation is found in Luke 16:19-31. In this passage, Jesus told a story in which a poor man named Lazarus, and a rich man, both died. The Bible explains that Lazarus died and “was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom” (16:22), but the rich went to “torments in Hades” (16:23). The text further states that the rich man “lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom” (16:23). Here we have three men who once lived upon the Earth but have died, yet we do not see their souls or spirits reinhabiting some earthly body. Instead, we see the three men—Lazarus, Abraham, and the rich man—in a fully cognizant state in the realm of the dead, separate and apart from any earthly ties. In fact, the rich man begs Abraham to send Lazarus back to Earth to warn his brothers, but Abraham refuses. Therefore, if Lazarus had died, and his soul no longer was on Earth, then he could not have been reincarnated to another earthly body or person. Furthermore, Abraham’s presence in this “realm of the dead” shows that Abraham had not been reincarnated either.

So dude, you try to use science to verify bible? It can't, because like ant can't see pass few inches pmof  it's surrounding, science can't measure god

YouTube are full of maniac like you. So their word is weight less than hot air