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post Oct 18 2008, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(nTHtoSEy @ Oct 18 2008, 12:55 AM)
some of the cubes (1st bulk) was with old screw. ONLY the white cube has the new screw. Weird enough.
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post Oct 18 2008, 02:16 PM

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just f2l...i learnt jessica fridrich method already....to get cross take me 10-15s...finishing f2l about 25-30s...yeah...how to spot next f2l pair easily?
to spot F2l pair need lot and lots of practice with fridrich you wont become fast overnight,nor do any other method.it just constant practice ,while practicing you spot new way to slot your F2l pair , new way to pair you edge & corner, find the algos that suit you best. that why practice is needed. not like 5 ~ 8 hours a day just couple of solves ,25 ~35 is already okay to improve your F2l if your busy.

maybe you could make average out of 3 solve video. and post it here let ppl like neutral or any other veteran cuber to give advice

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u spot the edge or corner first?


corner first since it easier to spot white on a corner (since my cross is always white, depends on what your cross is if its green then corner with green is easier to spot then an edge piece). wink.gif



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Mine's new? huh.gif 


you can unscrew it and compare with picture i post on page at. the comparison. the old on the neck is larger while the new one is thinner. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 18 2008, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Ace @ Oct 18 2008, 02:16 PM)
to spot F2l pair need lot and lots of practice with  fridrich you wont become fast overnight,nor do any other method.it  just constant practice ,while practicing you spot new way to slot your F2l pair , new way to pair you edge & corner,  find the algos that suit you best. that why practice is needed. not like 5 ~ 8 hours a day just couple of solves  ,25 ~35 is already okay to improve your F2l if your busy.

maybe you could make average out of 3 solve video. and post it here let ppl like neutral or any other veteran cuber to give advice
corner first since it easier to spot white on a corner (since my cross is always white, depends on what your cross  is if its green then corner with green is easier to spot then an edge piece). wink.gif
you can unscrew it and compare with picture i post on page at. the comparison.  the old on the neck is larger while the new one is thinner.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah...im not done it a night only...2 months practising fridrich...i have record my own video but with basic method...since it is faster than f2l... lol.. how fastest u are? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 18 2008, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(adeas @ Oct 18 2008, 09:26 PM)
yeah...im not done it a night only...2 months practising fridrich...i have record my own video but with basic method...since it is faster than f2l... lol..  how fastest u are? biggrin.gif
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well you gotto to ditch you LBL for good if you want to improve on fridrich F2l that what i did. suffer the whole week around 1m12s but gradually decreasing by 15 second on the second weeks that before i learn 3 look OLL (that time using 4LLL)


now averaging around 24~27 on a good day ,normal day around 26 ~ 29 , bad day can reach mid 30s sweat.gif
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post Oct 19 2008, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(maymay @ Oct 18 2008, 10:55 PM)
I just bought a rubik's cube from toys'r'us, I messed it and have no idea how to solve it. sweat.gif
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Lol, watch some videos tutorials and surely you can solve it happy.gif

Anyway you guys use all the terms just make me blur only =.="

Anyway if i do cross from bottom, doesn't that makes the algo i learn must change?
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post Oct 19 2008, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(laliloo @ Oct 19 2008, 01:20 AM)
Lol, watch some videos tutorials and surely you can solve it happy.gif

Anyway you guys use all the terms just make me blur only =.="

Anyway if i do cross from bottom, doesn't that makes the algo i learn must change?
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I thought all algos that displayed are for cross on the btm?
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post Oct 19 2008, 01:59 AM

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learn it intuitively(logic)...so u no need any algorithms for cross and first two layers...
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post Oct 19 2008, 02:31 AM

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I am using intuitive F2L method, but a friend of mine that actually memorised the formulas told me that I made a lot of weird unnecessary moves. >W<


Added on October 19, 2008, 3:17 am@Mr Ace -- BTW I think I'm having a set of new screws.

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post Oct 19 2008, 07:15 AM

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Guys, I have a problem with the grip changing thingy during F2L. It seems that I need to change a few times to get the F2L done. How can the pros just slot in the pairs without little or no grip changing?
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post Oct 19 2008, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Oct 19 2008, 02:31 AM)
I am using intuitive F2L method, but a friend of mine that actually memorised the formulas told me that I made a lot of weird unnecessary moves. >W<


Added on October 19, 2008, 3:17 am@Mr Ace -- BTW I think I'm having a set of new screws.
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hmm...try to look for the solution and see the amount of turns needed for each case...then create a solution urself using intuitive that the amount of moves needed is same with the solution....then u would not have any unnecessary moves

QUOTE(pingchen23 @ Oct 19 2008, 07:15 AM)
Guys, I have a problem with the grip changing thingy during F2L. It seems that I need to change a few times to get the F2L done. How can the pros just slot in the pairs without little or no grip changing?
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Try to learn back slotting..as in u can create and insert ur pairs at the behind slots instead of front slots..so u will reduce ur cube rotations.. try praticing like this >> do R' U' R on a solved cube..there is already a pair there.. now insert it with R' U R... and also do L U L' to setup...then insert with L U' L'... keep doing this and soon u will get used to back slotting...

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post Oct 19 2008, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Neutrals @ Oct 19 2008, 01:08 PM)
hmm...try to look for the solution and see the amount of turns needed for each case...then create a solution urself using intuitive that the amount of moves needed is same with the solution....then u would not have any unnecessary moves
Try to learn back slotting..as in u can create and insert ur pairs at the behind slots instead of front slots..so u will reduce ur cube rotations.. try praticing like this >> do R' U' R on a solved cube..there is already a pair there.. now insert it with R' U R... and also do L U L' to setup...then insert with L U' L'... keep doing this and soon u will get used to back slotting...
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That sounded like memorising the algo making it intuitive haha. laugh.gif

And backslotting sounds nice, time to practice.
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post Oct 19 2008, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Neutrals @ Oct 19 2008, 01:08 PM)
hmm...try to look for the solution and see the amount of turns needed for each case...then create a solution urself using intuitive that the amount of moves needed is same with the solution....then u would not have any unnecessary moves
Try to learn back slotting..as in u can create and insert ur pairs at the behind slots instead of front slots..so u will reduce ur cube rotations.. try praticing like this >> do R' U' R on a solved cube..there is already a pair there.. now insert it with R' U R... and also do L U L' to setup...then insert with L U' L'... keep doing this and soon u will get used to back slotting...
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Thanks for the advice! Btw, what about when pairing up? I mean the case when the corners have white facing up (since I'm using white cross), I have to change a lot of grips as well to pair it. Any method to pair up this case faster?
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QUOTE(pingchen23 @ Oct 19 2008, 02:38 PM)
Thanks for the advice! Btw, what about when pairing up? I mean the case when the corners have white facing up (since I'm using white cross), I have to change a lot of grips as well to pair it. Any method to pair up this case faster?
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i always try to have this case when solve it...white facing up with white cross...since it has no optional case.. yeah i want to know faster method to pair this up
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post Oct 19 2008, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(adeas @ Oct 19 2008, 03:56 PM)
i always try to have this case when solve it...white facing up with white cross...since it has no optional case.. yeah i want to know faster method to pair this up
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I thought it's the same when it's solved on the bottom? Makes no difference for me. Just that I can go to F2L directly if it's on the btm without the need to change axis.
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post Oct 19 2008, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Oct 19 2008, 01:40 AM)
I thought all algos that displayed are for cross on the btm?
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uhmm, i learn to solve from davebrown youtube tutorial....

QUOTE(Neutrals @ Oct 19 2008, 01:59 AM)
learn it intuitively(logic)...so u no need any algorithms for cross and first two layers...
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=.= i'm stupid... no logic sense at all T_T how?
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post Oct 20 2008, 08:32 AM

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go learn the algs then look at urself doing it, then apply intuitively.
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post Oct 20 2008, 05:46 PM

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tried f2l without any algo...took 5-10mins to complete f2l...lol
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post Oct 20 2008, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(Neutrals @ Oct 19 2008, 01:08 PM)
hmm...try to look for the solution and see the amount of turns needed for each case...then create a solution urself using intuitive that the amount of moves needed is same with the solution....then u would not have any unnecessary moves
Try to learn back slotting..as in u can create and insert ur pairs at the behind slots instead of front slots..so u will reduce ur cube rotations.. try praticing like this >> do R' U' R on a solved cube..there is already a pair there.. now insert it with R' U R... and also do L U L' to setup...then insert with L U' L'... keep doing this and soon u will get used to back slotting...
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woah this took awhile to get used to. icon_question.gif
i just practiced slotting F2l pair from any position sweat.gif , to reduce regripping took awhile get better with it.


Neutrals you know any rubiks competition? i m bored playing all slone doh.gif

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post Oct 20 2008, 10:02 PM

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f2l should be faster...anyone here use lars petrus method?
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post Oct 20 2008, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(adeas @ Oct 20 2008, 10:02 PM)
f2l should be faster...anyone here use lars petrus method?
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my fren uses petrus method.
btw guys, there's a rubik's brotherhood thread in facebook, u guys can join : http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17467492233&ref=ts

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