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laliloo
post Oct 10 2008, 02:23 AM

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hmm i'm currently using the layer to layer solve and takes about 3:47 to solve it most of the times.....

is that the normal time for layer to layer solve?

actually any pro can list down ALL the type of solve? or at least the famous 1?
and then the average time you're suppose to get with the solve? so we can know if we're doing good or not...

i would also love to request for anyone to have the video (the good ones) that can teach the solve or any tricks, like how you're suppose to hold your cubes and so on so that we all can improve on this. some videos are just so dam sucks.
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post Oct 12 2008, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(fireace123 @ Oct 10 2008, 12:05 PM)
Actually, there is no so called "supposed time", that's why we've got people who can solve under 10 seconds and people who uses over 1 minute.
It's depend on your own cubing technique, e.g. finger tricks, algorithms you use, cube you use.

Me myself with LBL, 4 look LL, I can get it done in sub-40, and no it's not good, there are people who can sub-30.

And as for the method, the famous one are Fridrich, Petrus and Roux.

Fridrich method is the method used by most of the top cuber, I would say the top 10 in WCA website are all using Fridrich.

Petrus method is said to use the least step to solve. This method is based on block building, and looking ahead is very important in this solve in order to get good time.

Roux method is similar to Petrus but this method needs to inspect 5 pieces at the starting instead of 4 of Petrus and Fridrich. Also, this method uses M slice very often, in which, change of gripping is less often.

There are hell lots of videos available on youtube which you can find finger tricks, tutorial on each methods, even algorithms,
give some patience to watch them.
For the gripping, I can give some idea here.

For right hander, use your left hand to grip,
hold 4 pieces of bottom left corner(reference to F face) with your left thumb,
you middle finger and ring finger on the opposite site,
free up your index finger in order to push U'.

Basically that's the idea, hope you can get it, watch more videos to get a clearer image.
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Yeah, i'm not asking for the best time, just the supposed time like ermm... since i'm new and i need 3:47 to solve by using Layer By Layer(LBL is it? Its hard to understand all the shortcuts you guys used) so i guess probably sub 4 minutes is a good time for newbie to solve using the LBL.

and like Fridrich, some ppl say they take longer to solve with this, while faster with LBL but most pro use frid to solve fast....so again its abit confusing happy.gif

For your gripping, if its Thumb on the 4 pieces, how can we turn the 'F' or 'L'? i'm having hard time with finger tricks and gripping.
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post Oct 12 2008, 06:52 PM

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F2L means wat?

Yeah i know 4 minutes is a bad time, which i'm still trying to improve on...i think i'm taking alot of time because i do my cross quite slow as i keep have to find the right piece....and then the 2nd layer now i'm quite familiar with the algorithms so i can do it quite ok....and the last layer still take me some time as i keep need to find the piece....

Not sure what i can do to really improve now T_T

Actually i not very sure what finger tricks are also....but i see those pro cubers they can do many move so fast but i think i do many regrip or the way to turn it not so good....also alot of cube bang when i twist and turn.... dont know if its the cube or my style not good.

Uhm, good explaination of the grip.
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post Oct 13 2008, 03:49 AM

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oh so F2L is 1st 2 layer... lol been thinking what the hell it means for quite some time.... so fridrich must be hard cause i heard alot of looking ahead while i can only look for that 1 single piece and think how to turn it to the desired location and then do the algorithms......

yeah now i do practice alot...keep doing and doing the same thing

OMFG! i need like 4-5 seconds just to find the piece that i want....

I'm using type D and C, yes DIY 1....i have type A but short of 1 cover, so i'm waiting for the seller to order it back for me....
I also dont know why...but it just keep bangs....or its hard to turn....maybe not so smooth yet cause i just got it like less then 1 week.
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post Oct 14 2008, 03:12 AM

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thats the problem, i dont know the range of tension i should alter from.....

nope, haven't do the lube yet...i'm still breaking in the cube actually, not sure how long i still need to do the breaking but i think i'll lube when i get my cubesmith tiles and i'll do everything that time
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post Oct 15 2008, 05:50 AM

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OMG! i cant believe this!

I was trying to beat my own time in a set of 5, and i did below 3 minutes now...except for my fkin last set, which until now i cant solve....

i guess i need some help

I'm using LBL and i already did the 1st 2 layer....but amazingly i could not do the cross on the bottom....i dont know why and i've not faced this b4.....

I'm using the algo F R U R' U' F, i do it like 1 million times and still cant get the cross....

i even try to get the L shape with the blank spot in the top left corner, and then do the F R U R' U' F, but also cant...i really dont know why and leaving the cube as it is now T_T
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post Oct 15 2008, 04:59 PM

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The Front

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The Right

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The Back

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The Left

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The Bottom

and the Top is Blue, all blue
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post Oct 16 2008, 02:57 AM

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hmmm, how did you know my piece did pop out??

What you mean wrong edges come in pair? how did you know there's problem with the cube?

So i should take out, the edge piece? or corner piece? cause i remember the corner piece is the one pop out
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post Oct 17 2008, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(darrenkhu @ Oct 16 2008, 10:16 AM)
laliloo i read earlier that you said you are taking along time solving the cross, do you solve the cross with it facing up or down?

i think with 1 turn per seconds you could solve the cube using the lbl method in 3 minutes.

i suggest start practicing with the cross facing the bottom. it certainly improved my time alot. this way, not only you save time turning the cube when you go into the 2nd layer but you have abetter view of the cube and can search for the edge for the first layer much easier


Added on October 16, 2008, 10:20 amsorry experience very long never visit this thread didnt reply you. erm im using the 4looklast layer. the f2l may seems intuitive at first but try applying the algrothims more and will somehow automatic di one. my problem is looking ahead T_T.

so much algorithm to memorise, even more assignments by the uni T_T


Added on October 16, 2008, 10:21 ameh who is the cempaka dude? yeah i was from there!
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oh? can do it facing downwards? that means i wont know exactly if i got my cross correctly?

actually i use alot of time looking for the piece of cube that i want....thats why it takes long time T_T

now i can do it below 2 minutes adi icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif


Oh....no wonder laa u know my cube got problem....but then i really check my corner piece, and 1 piece is wrongly inserted...at least its different from the other 3, so i took it out and turn it over... and walaaa it solved happy.gif
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post Oct 19 2008, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(maymay @ Oct 18 2008, 10:55 PM)
I just bought a rubik's cube from toys'r'us, I messed it and have no idea how to solve it. sweat.gif
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Lol, watch some videos tutorials and surely you can solve it happy.gif

Anyway you guys use all the terms just make me blur only =.="

Anyway if i do cross from bottom, doesn't that makes the algo i learn must change?
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post Oct 19 2008, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Oct 19 2008, 01:40 AM)
I thought all algos that displayed are for cross on the btm?
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uhmm, i learn to solve from davebrown youtube tutorial....

QUOTE(Neutrals @ Oct 19 2008, 01:59 AM)
learn it intuitively(logic)...so u no need any algorithms for cross and first two layers...
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=.= i'm stupid... no logic sense at all T_T how?
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post Oct 23 2008, 01:07 AM

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=.= dont understand your shortcut terms at all
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post Oct 25 2008, 07:49 AM

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OMG! lol if PLL is so hard, why not just use OLL instead? is it that PLL is faster?

i'm learning how to do f2l now happy.gif and i think i'm not doing too bad =p
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post Nov 8 2008, 12:18 PM

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OMG, i've just try to see the OLL and PLL and i can only say CRAZY! i can do F2L now...not very fast but succeeds all the time....but OLL and PLL is really crazy....

not to mention, i can only do cross upwards....i cant seem to do it downward T_T

This post has been edited by laliloo: Nov 8 2008, 12:22 PM
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post Nov 18 2008, 06:21 AM

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QUOTE(adeas @ Nov 17 2008, 04:44 PM)
im having my best cube right now...haha...
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by that which cube u mean?
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post Nov 18 2008, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(adeas @ Nov 18 2008, 12:56 PM)
diy type d + type-a core + cubesmith tiles + crc silicon lube inside...but still can't get below 50 s..lol
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lol i'm gonna get that soon....after i get from the seller...and hopefully he can lube for me ><
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post Nov 24 2008, 07:43 PM

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i really wonder how you can memorise all the OLL and PLL....the case variations too many and while i look at badmephisto OLL and PLL, OLL itself for the yellow parts, same yellow spots might have 2-3 cases depending on the rest of the yellow parts....i dont think memorising just the algo is hard... but the right algo for the right set is dam dam hard
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post Nov 25 2008, 02:28 AM

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any better? i mean is it better and easier to learn compared to badmephisto?
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post Nov 27 2008, 12:56 AM

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sounds like the fishy OLL?

 

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