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laliloo
post Oct 16 2008, 02:57 AM

aloha achiko walalalala~
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hmmm, how did you know my piece did pop out??

What you mean wrong edges come in pair? how did you know there's problem with the cube?

So i should take out, the edge piece? or corner piece? cause i remember the corner piece is the one pop out
fireace123
post Oct 16 2008, 08:30 AM

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nope nothing wrong with the corner, the edge is the only problem.

wrong edges mean the edges that is not orientated correctly, correct orientation means the top colour of the edges should be only facing the top face.

wrong edges come in pair, for example there are 3 possible orientations for edges for last layer, which is a dot, a line, or a L. all of these cases are with 2 wrong edges(1 pair) or 4 wrong edges(2 pairs).

in your case, your top face is with 1 wrong edge, there is nothing like that, so I can confirm that there is some mistake when you fix it.
eXPeri3nc3
post Oct 16 2008, 08:37 AM

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Lol I somehow got used to it just solve the cube with any wrong corners or edges and then in the end only I go and pop it out XD

No joke, somehow you can see it if you keep using whatever algorithms you have been using. smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2008, 08:55 AM

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after more practice and getting more familiar with the cube, you can know whether is there any problem with it and you can certainly ignore it and treat as if it's correct
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post Oct 16 2008, 10:16 AM

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laliloo i read earlier that you said you are taking along time solving the cross, do you solve the cross with it facing up or down?

i think with 1 turn per seconds you could solve the cube using the lbl method in 3 minutes.

i suggest start practicing with the cross facing the bottom. it certainly improved my time alot. this way, not only you save time turning the cube when you go into the 2nd layer but you have abetter view of the cube and can search for the edge for the first layer much easier


Added on October 16, 2008, 10:20 amsorry experience very long never visit this thread didnt reply you. erm im using the 4looklast layer. the f2l may seems intuitive at first but try applying the algrothims more and will somehow automatic di one. my problem is looking ahead T_T.

so much algorithm to memorise, even more assignments by the uni T_T


Added on October 16, 2008, 10:21 ameh who is the cempaka dude? yeah i was from there!

This post has been edited by darrenkhu: Oct 16 2008, 10:21 AM
nTHtoSEy
post Oct 16 2008, 10:42 AM

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darrenkhu,
how's ur type-A black?
sorry bout that day..haha..
darrenkhu
post Oct 16 2008, 10:29 PM

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not bad, very light so i prefer my white cube more. somehow even after lubing it will still get stuck and my times are slower =.=
Mr.Ace
post Oct 16 2008, 10:42 PM

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rubiks discussion should be full with videos. i post mine first fresh from today. haha







could get better time . if wasnt for the flimsy cube. sweat.gif

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eXPeri3nc3
post Oct 16 2008, 10:49 PM

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That's fast fingertricking right thar. @_____________________@

Mine quite slow. T_T

I wonder if I manage to record one trial run of mine.... very slow de. =(
Mr.Ace
post Oct 16 2008, 11:05 PM

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its okay averybody slow at first. just come on contribute ! we need more video from the pros of lowyat biggrin.gif

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nTHtoSEy
post Oct 16 2008, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Ace @ Oct 16 2008, 11:05 PM)
its okay averybody slow a first. just come on contribute ! we need more video from the pros of lowyat biggrin.gif
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lol..din use the type-A/ type-D you bought?

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post Oct 16 2008, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(nTHtoSEy @ Oct 16 2008, 11:12 PM)
lol..din use the type-A/ type-D you bought?
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that was my type A - D hybird. with JSK cubicle its a bit flimsy haha. In next vid i use the white one. biggrin.gif
laliloo
post Oct 17 2008, 12:31 AM

aloha achiko walalalala~
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QUOTE(darrenkhu @ Oct 16 2008, 10:16 AM)
laliloo i read earlier that you said you are taking along time solving the cross, do you solve the cross with it facing up or down?

i think with 1 turn per seconds you could solve the cube using the lbl method in 3 minutes.

i suggest start practicing with the cross facing the bottom. it certainly improved my time alot. this way, not only you save time turning the cube when you go into the 2nd layer but you have abetter view of the cube and can search for the edge for the first layer much easier


Added on October 16, 2008, 10:20 amsorry experience very long never visit this thread didnt reply you. erm im using the 4looklast layer. the f2l may seems intuitive at first but try applying the algrothims more and will somehow automatic di one. my problem is looking ahead T_T.

so much algorithm to memorise, even more assignments by the uni T_T


Added on October 16, 2008, 10:21 ameh who is the cempaka dude? yeah i was from there!
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oh? can do it facing downwards? that means i wont know exactly if i got my cross correctly?

actually i use alot of time looking for the piece of cube that i want....thats why it takes long time T_T

now i can do it below 2 minutes adi icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif


Oh....no wonder laa u know my cube got problem....but then i really check my corner piece, and 1 piece is wrongly inserted...at least its different from the other 3, so i took it out and turn it over... and walaaa it solved happy.gif
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post Oct 17 2008, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(darrenkhu @ Oct 16 2008, 10:16 AM)
laliloo i read earlier that you said you are taking along time solving the cross, do you solve the cross with it facing up or down?

i think with 1 turn per seconds you could solve the cube using the lbl method in 3 minutes.

i suggest start practicing with the cross facing the bottom. it certainly improved my time alot. this way, not only you save time turning the cube when you go into the 2nd layer but you have abetter view of the cube and can search for the edge for the first layer much easier


Added on October 16, 2008, 10:20 amsorry experience very long never visit this thread didnt reply you. erm im using the 4looklast layer. the f2l may seems intuitive at first but try applying the algrothims more and will somehow automatic di one. my problem is looking ahead T_T.

so much algorithm to memorise, even more assignments by the uni T_T


Added on October 16, 2008, 10:21 ameh who is the cempaka dude? yeah i was from there!
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4 look? Link to your algo pls?
Jojos
post Oct 17 2008, 01:17 AM

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Hello
Alot of my schoolmates actually knows how to cube by the way.
It all started from this 1 guy. He bought a rubiks cube. People started cubing after that and it even spread to other forms. Its infectios..
Anyway does anyone know how to get the siamese cube? I dont think they sell at normal stores

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darrenkhu
post Oct 17 2008, 07:33 AM

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u can get siamese 2x2x2 in action city. 4look = 2look oll 2 look pll? i think its pretty common among cubers one rather than learning the full oll and pll of fridrich
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post Oct 17 2008, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Jojos @ Oct 17 2008, 01:17 AM)
Hello
Alot of my schoolmates actually knows how to cube by the way.
It all started from this 1 guy. He bought a rubiks cube. People started cubing after that and it even spread to other forms. Its infectios..
Anyway does anyone know how to get the siamese cube? I dont think they sell at normal stores

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if you're ambitious enough, u can mod it yourself xD
check this out guys : http://speedcubing.com/ton/siamese.htm

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Neutrals
post Oct 17 2008, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(fireace123 @ Oct 10 2008, 12:05 PM)
Fridrich method is the method used by most of the top cuber, I would say the top 10 in WCA website are all using
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Nope...Jasum Baum uses zb tongue.gif but too bad he is top 11 on the WCA 3x3 average list now..

QUOTE(fireace123 @ Oct 12 2008, 07:55 PM)
Regripping does eat some time, but in your case, it's still OK to regrip.
It's sometimes depends on the person, it's how fast one can turn the cube. A quick example is, for a Fridrich solve, normally it takes around 50~60 moves, world record is 7 seconds, means the record holder is turning more than 7 moves per second. Well, if you can turn at that speed, you can get good time too.
What cube are you using?
DIY ones?
If yes, it shouldn't stuck often, maybe it's the way you turn or the power of your turning.
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the world record 7.08 seconds is a lucky solve... fridrich method have 4 steps and he skipped the 4th step(pll)..I don't think he could have got that time with a non-lucky solve.. btw..I can see that all the 2x2,3x3,4x4 single solves world record are lucky solves... check the time for 2x2 single world record holder, and check his average.. then check 4x4 single record holder and his average.. smile.gif We should see the average record of the cuber to know if he/she is the best cuber..

...just started cubing 4 months+ ago, now around average 26~28 secs.. using cross on bottom, f2l(intuitive, as in no algorithms), 2 look-oll and 1 look pll.. I think the main thing for getting fast times is not by having good turning speed.. I competed with most of my friends doing R U' x63 and I can say I lost to most of them...even ppl that don't even know how to cube can turn faster than me.. and ppl at average 2 mins can turn faster than me...my fastest time for R U' x63 is around 37~38 seconds..and usually take me 40+ seconds for it.. (lots of ppl think that someone that can solve the cube in 20~30 seconds have fast turning speed..so I can prove u wrong biggrin.gif )

the main thing for getting fast times is looking ahead(look for next move while solving what u r doing at that time) and delay...just turn at a normal rate(2 turns+ per second) with almost 0 delay and u should be getting average 30~35 secs...but that is of course with any speedsolving(3x3) advance methods (fridrich, petrus, roux, vh, zb, corner first, waterman, heise and more...). This is because u just need less than 70 turns on average to solve the whole cube..compared to beginner methods (which needs up to 100~150 turns to solve the cube)..

for my experience, I can say that practicing a lot don't really help u to improve ur times so fast..but, learning new methods and doing lots of experiment on how to solve the cube with the least moves and experiment on how to solve the cube with as little cube rotations as possible will actually pull ur times down very fast.. I practice around 30 mins a day..if weekends that I am really free then around 1 hour or more..(not realy a lot compared to some ppl that practice 3~12 hours a day sweat.gif )

anyways..if anyone have more interest in cubing...try going to cube forums to get more info on cubing..it really helps u to improve..

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4 : this is a world wide cubing forum...lots of info..

http://www.malaysiancube.com/forum/index.php : and of course, Malaysian cube forum... nod.gif

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post Oct 17 2008, 04:28 PM

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lol i really suck at R U`x63 in the first 5 turn will definitely lockup sweat.gif or mix it up end up doing R U`x63 for half an hour just to found out its messed up.

here an awesome example of R U`x 63
Syuhei Omura R U` x 63
i bet since Neutral from speedsloving you must at least watched it ohmy.gif
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post Oct 17 2008, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Ace @ Oct 17 2008, 04:28 PM)
lol i really suck at R U`x63 in the first 5 turn will definitely lockup sweat.gif or mix it up end up doing R U`x63 for half an hour just to found out its messed up.

here an awesome example of R U`x 63
Syuhei Omura R U` x 63
i bet since Neutral from speedsloving you must at least watched it ohmy.gif
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ya...watched it quite long ago...those ppl only are called fast fingerspeed... I am 4 times slower than him tongue.gif

omg... u did R U' x63 for half an hour and did not realize u messed it up in between? shocking.gif As in.. even u turn 1 second 1 turn also just need 2 mins at max..but I don' think anyone will turn that slow...3 turns per sec is reasonable for most ppl.. since u just performing the same thing over and over again.. smile.gif

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