Gone to some Big Wings, see the big wing sales fellas need to sell kapzai
because no big bikes landing in showroom...
adui...
what's happening ah?
Honda big bikes ... stock starvation, why ah?
Honda big bikes ... stock starvation, why ah?
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Gone to some Big Wings, see the big wing sales fellas need to sell kapzai
because no big bikes landing in showroom... adui... what's happening ah? |
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Sep 18 2022, 07:15 PM
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Sign of solid economy, or supply problem ??
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Sep 18 2022, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Sep 18 2022, 07:18 PM) A bit of both..Big Wing fellas told me they didn't expect their bikes to be to hot selling compared to Yamaha, but demand increased for all models. On the other hand, no bikes coming from principle, very limited units. It reached a point that some big wings stop taking orders for some models e.g. X-ADV750. Many speculative reasons, most say lack of chips the main cause. Actual reason unknown. I think all the bikes in Big Wing are imported, mainly from Thailand. Suspect falling RM can also be another problem. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 18 2022, 10:44 PM) A bit of both.. Most probably so. Compound effects. Not making it easier anytime soon. Big Wing fellas told me they didn't expect their bikes to be to hot selling compared to Yamaha, but demand increased for all models. On the other hand, no bikes coming from principle, very limited units. It reached a point that some big wings stop taking orders for some models e.g. X-ADV750. Many speculative reasons, most say lack of chips the main cause. Actual reason unknown. I think all the bikes in Big Wing are imported, mainly from Thailand. Suspect falling RM can also be another problem. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 18 2022, 10:44 PM) A bit of both.. yes all mainly import from thailand but falling RM is only against USD and not other currency. if it is due to foreign exchange, all other brands will be heavily affected also.Big Wing fellas told me they didn't expect their bikes to be to hot selling compared to Yamaha, but demand increased for all models. On the other hand, no bikes coming from principle, very limited units. It reached a point that some big wings stop taking orders for some models e.g. X-ADV750. Many speculative reasons, most say lack of chips the main cause. Actual reason unknown. I think all the bikes in Big Wing are imported, mainly from Thailand. Suspect falling RM can also be another problem. |
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Sep 19 2022, 11:42 AM
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Me too went to Big Wing. Sales person say those in queue for XADV most probably get next year
Really like the DCT models but damn those waiting time. Better consider getting other brands if rushing. Anyone knows agak-agak when this mania will stop? |
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Sep 20 2022, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(Sammy6 @ Sep 20 2022, 12:09 AM) Me too went to Big Wing. Sales person say those in queue for XADV most probably get next year I wonder if it’s Thailand factory that is facing squeeze in availability of component Really like the DCT models but damn those waiting time. Better consider getting other brands if rushing. Anyone knows agak-agak when this mania will stop? Or Challenges with import procedure by local distributor. Shipping lanes and containers availability are easing up now. Hopefully entire supply chain will ease up sooner to cover back log Sigh….. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 18 2022, 10:44 PM) A bit of both.. Prolly lack of chip supply....Big Wing fellas told me they didn't expect their bikes to be to hot selling compared to Yamaha, but demand increased for all models. On the other hand, no bikes coming from principle, very limited units. It reached a point that some big wings stop taking orders for some models e.g. X-ADV750. Many speculative reasons, most say lack of chips the main cause. Actual reason unknown. I think all the bikes in Big Wing are imported, mainly from Thailand. Suspect falling RM can also be another problem. Falling RM is not really related |
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Yeah I'm not expecting that I'm going to receive my bike this year.
Some already waiting 5 month. Speculation aside... yeah that 750 twin is 1 reason |
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QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Sep 20 2022, 06:45 PM) Yeah I'm not expecting that I'm going to receive my bike this year. That new transalp engine?Some already waiting 5 month. Speculation aside... yeah that 750 twin is 1 reason 91bhp from 750cc parallel twin is insane. Honda really outdone itself this time. But don't think we'll be seeing any of those engines in Malaysian market in 3 years time? |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 19 2022, 12:50 PM) Hope you will get the redesigned Forza 250 same like that was launched in Thai WH4CockcooBird liked this post
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Oct 29 2022, 10:46 PM
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Honda Big wing JB informed me today.
There's have been no bike coming in since June. They're saying it's probably chips shortage. But can't say for sure that the reason. The higher up didn't say anything. And order keep coming in. |
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QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Oct 29 2022, 10:46 PM) Honda Big wing JB informed me today. Even Japan side facing stock shortage issue lelThere's have been no bike coming in since June. They're saying it's probably chips shortage. But can't say for sure that the reason. The higher up didn't say anything. And order keep coming in. |
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Big Wing Setapak confirms in their FB posting. Based on BSH's communication to them, all booking since March 22 can only be fulfilled next year. Blame on global chip shortage.
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Nov 1 2022, 12:29 PM
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Nov 12 2022, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Nov 1 2022, 12:19 AM) Big Wing Setapak confirms in their FB posting. Based on BSH's communication to them, all booking since March 22 can only be fulfilled next year. Blame on global chip shortage. Just confirming with them today.No stock will come in this year. They hope new stock will come after Chinese New year... maybe As of right now all 250cc and above will have to wait next year They literally have zero new bikes to sell. At least from Honda. The sales person offers me to get other bike if i want. Not sure if it's new or used. Since I rejected the offer. So yeah.. right so many customer complain already. |
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Nov 12 2022, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Nov 12 2022, 04:45 PM) Just confirming with them today. what bike are you waiting for and how long have you waited?No stock will come in this year. They hope new stock will come after Chinese New year... maybe As of right now all 250cc and above will have to wait next year They literally have zero new bikes to sell. At least from Honda. The sales person offers me to get other bike if i want. Not sure if it's new or used. Since I rejected the offer. So yeah.. right so many customer complain already. |
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all because of china zero covid policy & stupid biden sanction policy.
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QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Nov 12 2022, 04:55 PM) Waiting for cb650 Damn, I placed order of my CB650R on early Oct. That time also he said 2-3 months, not sure how to feel. Also bought a number plate already Since early August. Was expecting to get late this month or early December. Was pretty weird that they were quite for 2 months. Some already waited since June. |
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Nov 13 2022, 02:49 PM) Damn, I placed order of my CB650R on early Oct. That time also he said 2-3 months, not sure how to feel. Also bought a number plate already Yeah I also buy a nice number plate. Mid August Should be viable for 1 year. If you bought it from ebid. I'm gonna wait and see. Since I already set my heart on the CB. If it's goes really bad. I might change to z900rs. But the price is to high. So maybe not |
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No stock apply to other model as well? Looking for cb500x or rebel500
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QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Nov 13 2022, 07:11 PM) Yeah I also buy a nice number plate. Mid August Mine I bought from Mysikap, RM300 plate only but it's the plate number that I want. Valid for 6 months only if buy from MySikap IINM. Should be viable for 1 year. If you bought it from ebid. I'm gonna wait and see. Since I already set my heart on the CB. If it's goes really bad. I might change to z900rs. But the price is to high. So maybe not Not sure what my backup plan would be if I can't get it. Tested the Triumph but it doesn't really tickle my fancy too much. QUOTE(ganz @ Nov 13 2022, 08:30 PM) I think all models also affected, you can try ask your local BW. |
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Nov 13 2022, 09:12 PM) Mine I bought from Mysikap, RM300 plate only but it's the plate number that I want. Valid for 6 months only if buy from MySikap IINM. just passing by BW along NPE . see no big bike inside further hard to park (no car park)..Not sure what my backup plan would be if I can't get it. Tested the Triumph but it doesn't really tickle my fancy too much. I think all models also affected, you can try ask your local BW. u went to triumph PJ? |
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QUOTE(ganz @ Nov 13 2022, 09:24 PM) just passing by BW along NPE . see no big bike inside further hard to park (no car park).. Got big bike inside, but almost all of it is customer's bike awaiting collection. CB650R they have a demo bike for display though and I managed to get a test ride for it after I placed my booking. Car park can park at the row of shops next to it kot. I went there by my own bike so parked right at their entrance.u went to triumph PJ? And yeah I went to Triumph PJ to test ride a few bikes. Can read about my experience over here |
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QUOTE(ganz @ Nov 13 2022, 08:30 PM) Yeah few days ago BW sales person told me. 250cc and above all effected. Main reason chip shortage. But not sure if that's the only reason. But if you really want it. Better booked first. They will start delivering after Chinese New year. At least that is what I was told |
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x-adv650 need to wait for 2year. hahaha
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QUOTE(vexus @ Nov 16 2022, 08:36 AM) If someone report honda to kpdnhep for charging exorbitant booking fee, they will be in trouble. Don't be naive thinking KPDN is god to consumer.On what ground basis they need rm10k booking? Unlike cars, there isn't regulation for trading bikes. Hence all bike shops behave like gangster with pricing. lowpro liked this post
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Saw some happy owners taking delivery of their X-ADV750 today.
SA says they waited 2 years for their bike. Congrats to the new owner of Honda big bikes |
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Our market is too small to be noticed. Min attention given.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 17 2023, 10:42 AM) Was at Big Wing few days back 'cos go to service my little scooter and walk over Big Wing.Few salesman resigned liao, cannot cari makan 'cos no bike to sell.. Last month some shipment arrived including a few X-ADV750 they went a little happy but after that, even the staple 250R also no where to be seen. My Forza booked in Apr 2021 until now shadow also no see... kept my booking there so I can switch to ADV350 when it eventually come laaaah. alexei liked this post
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Honda big wing can go tutup kedai already. What bike also no stock. Book also cannot give firm date. No need to even ask them when the new Hornet and transalp coming. Lansung no news alexei liked this post
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the consequences of stupid japanese follow USA sanction China.
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even old cb650f is holding its value because so hard to get new cb650r
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 17 2023, 10:42 AM) But but but... Salesman keep saying bikes are already at port klang sangkut kastam saja 🙈 alexei liked this post
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Many tulan either get Yamaha or cfmoto. Honda CEO still daydreaming.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 19 2023, 11:53 AM) Gave up la, that time salesman say in port klang, while penang boon Siew Honda hq say need to wait until July, this was back in March lol. In the end bought different bike. Now everytime see Honda bigwing advertise used bikes. Become 2nd hand bike dealer more liao |
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jul 19 2023, 04:09 PM) Gave up la, that time salesman say in port klang, while penang boon Siew Honda hq say need to wait until July, this was back in March lol. In the end bought different bike. Now everytime see Honda bigwing advertise used bikes. Become 2nd hand bike dealer more liao Salesman run out of excuse already. Hahahaha.....Big Wing sell small kapzai now. |
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Yup almost a year now. Kinda tired asking already.
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forget about honda. Honda japan think moving their production from china to india will solve their problem. They follow USA = go to hell.
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jul 19 2023, 04:09 PM) Gave up la, that time salesman say in port klang, while penang boon Siew Honda hq say need to wait until July, this was back in March lol. In the end bought different bike. Now everytime see Honda bigwing advertise used bikes. Become 2nd hand bike dealer more liao They need to eat also...QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Jul 19 2023, 08:41 PM) Got consider parking it on a kapcai like those interchange?QUOTE(vexus @ Jul 19 2023, 10:07 PM) forget about honda. Honda japan think moving their production from china to india will solve their problem. They follow USA = go to hell. I see... that's a problem. Should come Thailand or Malaysia. |
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So now, between made in China vs India, which one to take?
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 20 2023, 12:21 PM) China is more friendly towards foreign investors.. except u meddling with their politics shits.Honda has no direct investment in China. But thru JV investment. There are 2 honda JV companies in china. Sundiro Honda (新大洲本田) mainly focus small displacement bikes. Wuyang Honda (五羊本田) focus bigger displacement bike (mostly import) Btw, forza 350(nss350) already assembled in china. Their version of forza 350 has electric foldable side mirrors. A nice to have features. alexei liked this post
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 20 2023, 01:55 PM) I think Honda Big wing petaling jaya is the one at PJS. Next to NPE highway.No news on Fast bikes though....they were going to sell Honda..but been very quiet. Maybe they can't even get bikes so nothing to sell. Tiu lor....thier Triumph got gobbled up by Goh brothers, now they selling a brand with no stock. This post has been edited by jaycee1: Jul 20 2023, 03:30 PM |
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Last week I ask when the 650 bike will come in. It was at fb page. Bigwing petaling jaya. Got a reply from Sam welly himself said this week. Few days ago the reply got deleted. So we probably not getting anything anytime soon. Patent liked this post
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I just went to the big wing in PJ last week, ask about the Hond Rebel 500, they told me to wait till end of july/august only got demo unit in showroom for display, not for test drive
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forget bout new honda bikes la
plenty used for sale n fairly new, honda bike quality suppose can tahan ponya mar, oso seken price owiz damn high ponya fast bike still have old triumph stock tak jual lagi i think. |
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triumph feels like higher sell price for me ( budget i xcukop )
r.enfield made in india, will it be another benelli in china ? honda if keep delay like this i just go for vul s 650 (bigger cc |
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QUOTE(alex000999000 @ Jul 24 2023, 02:06 AM) triumph feels like higher sell price for me ( budget i xcukop ) Dunno who is better now, Honda or Kawa-Modenas. Maybe you want to hang on to it.r.enfield made in india, will it be another benelli in china ? honda if keep delay like this i just go for vul s 650 (bigger cc |
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Jul 24 2023, 11:42 PM
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Jul 25 2023, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(alex000999000 @ Jul 24 2023, 11:42 PM) for me i think either rebel 500 or vul s 650 as currently within my budget this 2 seems like best option Both about the same price point.Would just go with a Vulcan. The rebel looks 8/10 sized. You are also getting 20% more power from the bigger 650. Both been around for donkey years. Ultimately it boils down to if you prefer mid controls (rebel)or foot forward (Vulcan) |
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Aug 1 2023, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 25 2023, 07:57 AM) I haven't test Rebel. Vulcan S is proven, also. the absorber is kinda too soft for drivin thru road hole ?Depending on the weight and payload, might need prepare to change the rear shock. QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 25 2023, 08:33 PM) Both about the same price point. rebel i havent got chance to see at the real bike yet, vul s had test seat around feels big for meWould just go with a Vulcan. The rebel looks 8/10 sized. You are also getting 20% more power from the bigger 650. Both been around for donkey years. Ultimately it boils down to if you prefer mid controls (rebel)or foot forward (Vulcan) |
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QUOTE(alex000999000 @ Aug 1 2023, 01:54 AM) depends on your weight and payload alex000999000 liked this post
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Honda Forza is appearing in Big Wings now, after 1.5 years of absent.
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wanted to book a CBR650R, but after scrolling through this post, I think its better to start looking for other brand model lol
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QUOTE(waili008 @ Aug 8 2023, 11:50 PM) wanted to book a CBR650R, but after scrolling through this post, I think its better to start looking for other brand model lol Z900 jer if you're looking at Cb650r. I placed booking last year October, this year march cancel booking and bought other bike lol. From what I heard until now also Cb650r stock belum sampai. |
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I mean CBR650R, not CB650R. I really like the design of this bike, and there is not much mid range sport (or sport touring?) bike in the current market...
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QUOTE(waili008 @ Aug 9 2023, 06:57 PM) I mean CBR650R, not CB650R. I really like the design of this bike, and there is not much mid range sport (or sport touring?) bike in the current market... Hmm..why would you say that? The middle weight is stuffed full of bikes.You have the triumph trident/tiger sport 660 and street triple S/R. You have the new Suzuki 8s or some old stock of the gsx750. Even the old SV650 can still be found. Kawasaki still has the 650 and 900 bikes. CFmoto has the 650GT and 700CLX for cheap. |
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can always find second hand cbr..
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 9 2023, 07:09 PM) Hmm..why would you say that? The middle weight is stuffed full of bikes. You have the triumph trident/tiger sport 660 and street triple S/R. You have the new Suzuki 8s or some old stock of the gsx750. Even the old SV650 can still be found. Kawasaki still has the 650 and 900 bikes. CFmoto has the 650GT and 700CLX for cheap. |
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Most of the models you listed are naked or street bikes, but still appreciate the recommendation tho. The new ninja 650 or cfmoto 650gt can be one of the alternatives but I really want a 4 cylinder sport bike haha
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QUOTE(waili008 @ Aug 9 2023, 09:44 PM) Most of the models you listed are naked or street bikes, but still appreciate the recommendation tho. The new ninja 650 or cfmoto 650gt can be one of the alternatives but I really want a 4 cylinder sport bike haha Let's face it. It would be some time before the trend falls back to traditional full fairing sports/sports touring. This trend is everywhere.I'm in the same boat. The Tiger sport 660 and the CFmoto 650GT is the only 2 full fairing middle weight sports touring bikes in the market......and you could convert a Ninja 650 for touring duties. You will have to go to the bigger bikes like the GSX S1000GT to get a new full fairing sports touring bike at 88k. Generally...I just relegate myself to get a naked bike and slap on a windshield, taller handlebars/risers and luggage on a naked bike. Won't see any sports touring bikes until people get sick of tip toeing on tall and heavy ADVs. Or you can wait till next year for the zx25r, zx4r and zx6r. It will be locally assembled by modenas. This post has been edited by jaycee1: Aug 10 2023, 04:04 PM lowpro liked this post
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QUOTE(waili008 @ Aug 9 2023, 09:44 PM) Most of the models you listed are naked or street bikes, but still appreciate the recommendation tho. The new ninja 650 or cfmoto 650gt can be one of the alternatives but I really want a 4 cylinder sport bike haha Which specific 4-cylinder sports bike you want? If new, very few can compare the versatility of the CBR650R.If what you really want is a supersports, like a CBR600RR, totally different story IMHO. Don't settle for the CBR650R. |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 11 2023, 07:39 AM) Which specific 4-cylinder sports bike you want? If new, very few can compare the versatility of the CBR650R. Why ah? I actually like the CBR650R. Less committed like the supersports but more comfortable and with full fairing for better wind protection. I think it is one of those last sport tourers that emphasise on sporty looks (and where I can reach the ground) rather than the fake sport tourers these days that try to look like ADVs and are all too high for normal humans. It reminds me of my old FZ6R.If what you really want is a supersports, like a CBR600RR, totally different story IMHO. Don't settle for the CBR650R. |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Aug 11 2023, 08:56 AM) Why ah? I actually like the CBR650R. Less committed like the supersports but more comfortable and with full fairing for better wind protection. I think it is one of those last sport tourers that emphasise on sporty looks (and where I can reach the ground) rather than the fake sport tourers these days that try to look like ADVs and are all too high for normal humans. It reminds me of my old FZ6R. I mean, if you like the CBR650R then it's ok.But, if someone really liked a CBR600RR but thinks the CBR650R is the same, then it's a mistake in the sense that they are very different in character. |
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saw fairly new used ones, still can loan oh, if can wait for new, then do wait.. alexei liked this post
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any alternatives for CRF250 Rally thats readily available in the market right now or should I just look for something else?
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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 11 2023, 09:24 AM) I mean, if you like the CBR650R then it's ok. Ah yes, they're as different as chalk and cheese. Sport tourer and a dedicated sport bike. You're right, very different.But, if someone really liked a CBR600RR but thinks the CBR650R is the same, then it's a mistake in the sense that they are very different in character. alexei liked this post
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QUOTE(mercindustries @ Aug 11 2023, 04:28 PM) any alternatives for CRF250 Rally thats readily available in the market right now or should I just look for something else? New bike no.Used bike, can try the versys 250. Maybe wait till next year and see if modeski brings in the versys x250. The CRF is still going to be the more off road capable bike. The rally is an ADV version of a dirt bike, while the versys is an ADV version of a street bike. The versys 250 and KTM 250/390 adventure would be a closer match...and in the same light, the 310GS This post has been edited by jaycee1: Aug 11 2023, 07:23 PM mercindustries liked this post
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mercindustries Kawasaki KLX250. KTM, GasGas has a few options also. This post has been edited by alexei: Aug 11 2023, 10:05 PM mercindustries liked this post
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I heard news about the new CBR650R is going to announce next year? any thoughts on this?
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honda bz doing the fully faired hornet, that is for sure.
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QUOTE(futurevision_ben @ Aug 31 2023, 01:08 AM) I don't know what are new ones coming, I am not interested in those big bikes except scooter. However, I am surely seeing stock being replenished very slooooowly at Big Wings. Compared to before there was zero movement on big bikes or CBU bikes. Also pretty definite about the ADV350 as they are beginning to compile list of takers. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Aug 31 2023, 08:39 AM) I don't know what are new ones coming, I am not interested in those big bikes except scooter. However, I am surely seeing stock being replenished very slooooowly at Big Wings. Compared to before there was zero movement on big bikes or CBU bikes. Also pretty definite about the ADV350 as they are beginning to compile list of takers. BoonSiew SG brought in ADV 350.. the price is 12K+SGD before COE. Be prepared that u might need about 40kRM for this baby next year in the bolehland. Also, BoonSiew MY might downgrade the displacement to 250CC in order to get more buyers(b2 license rider). Forza is a typical example. https://boonsiewhonda.com.sg/Models/adv350 |
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 4 2023, 07:36 AM) BoonSiew SG brought in ADV 350.. the price is 12K+SGD before COE. Be prepared that u might need about 40kRM for this baby next year in the bolehland. Let’s just say I have faith in Honda Thailand to give the finger to BSH on request to custom build 250 from 330 for a really really small market, a trouble proven futile in the case of Forza… they cannot adopt the 250 from Forza cos that engine is already phased out. Also, BoonSiew MY might downgrade the displacement to 250CC in order to get more buyers(b2 license rider). Forza is a typical example. https://boonsiewhonda.com.sg/Models/adv350 Fark SG lah not same comparison. 😬 If BSH die die want to sell it premium due to success of XADV750, there’s a good chance they may make it work with the ADV350 at just below the price point of a CB500X |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 4 2023, 09:48 AM) Let’s just say I have faith in Honda Thailand to give the finger to BSH on request to custom build 250 from 330 for a really really small market, a trouble proven futile in the case of Forza… they cannot adopt the 250 from Forza cos that engine is already phased out. Forza sold in Jap & Indonesia are also 250cc.. Fark SG lah not same comparison. 😬 If BSH die die want to sell it premium due to success of XADV750, there’s a good chance they may make it work with the ADV350 at just below the price point of a CB500X Its understandable la.. BSH doesn't feel any heats of competitions. If BSH priced Adv 350 @ 35k or more, I am thinking of buy other brands mid size maxi scooter. |
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 4 2023, 12:36 PM) Forza sold in Jap & Indonesia are also 250cc.. Seriously, pricing of Modenas Kawasaki is causing a stir in the market.Its understandable la.. BSH doesn't feel any heats of competitions. If BSH priced Adv 350 @ 35k or more, I am thinking of buy other brands mid size maxi scooter. Versys 650 going at 36k, same price as Honda CB500X. Many will go for Versys. If ADV350 goes at 35k, many will think many times over except rare fools like me that want only scooter. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 4 2023, 08:33 PM) Seriously, pricing of Modenas Kawasaki is causing a stir in the market. Versys where got so cheap. 39k lah.Versys 650 going at 36k, same price as Honda CB500X. Many will go for Versys. If ADV350 goes at 35k, many will think many times over except rare fools like me that want only scooter. 35k for the ADV350 is stupid. Unless like you say only for people that are looking for a scooter. Even then, you won't really enjoy off-road on small wheels, wide chassis and zero ground clearance. So it's mostly a style proposition only. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 4 2023, 08:33 PM) Seriously, pricing of Modenas Kawasaki is causing a stir in the market. A hardcore Honda ADV scooter fan spotted! Versys 650 going at 36k, same price as Honda CB500X. Many will go for Versys. If ADV350 goes at 35k, many will think many times over except rare fools like me that want only scooter. The problem is BSH not keen on competitions. They think that whatever bikes they brought in sure sell like hot cakes. |
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 4 2023, 09:25 PM) Versys where got so cheap. 39k lah. I am only into santai santai makan angin sana sini not into zoom zoom broom broom riding.35k for the ADV350 is stupid. Unless like you say only for people that are looking for a scooter. Even then, you won't really enjoy off-road on small wheels, wide chassis and zero ground clearance. So it's mostly a style proposition only. Even on higher cc bike, I am going 80-90km/h. Also not a person into style. Just want a scooter with high enough handlebar to clear my long legs and easy ride, with plenty storage under my arse. QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 4 2023, 09:27 PM) A hardcore Honda ADV scooter fan spotted! Hahahaha... not hard core lah... blame my 183cm height with long legs.The problem is BSH not keen on competitions. They think that whatever bikes they brought in sure sell like hot cakes. Tested a lot of scooters only the ADV150/160 have handlebar that cleared my legs. The 750 is too big not enough storage under my arse so not considering it. Booked the Forza / Xmax for it's larger storage but both their handlebar will hit my legs on tight turns. When heard rumors of ADV350.. I know my mind is made. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 4 2023, 10:56 PM) I am only into santai santai makan angin sana sini not into zoom zoom broom broom riding. There is a mat saleh review on Adv 160 VS Adv 350.Even on higher cc bike, I am going 80-90km/h. Also not a person into style. Just want a scooter with high enough handlebar to clear my long legs and easy ride, with plenty storage under my arse. Hahahaha... not hard core lah... blame my 183cm height with long legs. Tested a lot of scooters only the ADV150/160 have handlebar that cleared my legs. The 750 is too big not enough storage under my arse so not considering it. Booked the Forza / Xmax for it's larger storage but both their handlebar will hit my legs on tight turns. When heard rumors of ADV350.. I know my mind is made. For urban area usage, Adv 350 is tougher to maneuver around than the Adv 160 due to the size. |
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 5 2023, 07:38 AM) There is a mat saleh review on Adv 160 VS Adv 350. All that he said were expected, there isn't a surprise to me. The only "surprise" is the comment on how shitty his XMax 300 feels like after riding the ADV350.For urban area usage, Adv 350 is tougher to maneuver around than the Adv 160 due to the size. |
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Still worth getting the current gen CB650R still? 2022 version.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 11 2023, 11:23 AM) if the price is more than 40k, just get the z900 or used MT-09 V3 BlackBananaV6 liked this post
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QUOTE(selenium @ Oct 21 2023, 02:03 PM) Previous shortage due to AP issue... This is the new AP holder.. but seems like issue is persisting.. not sure why haha, not anymorejust that the list is long, even with the AP's the bikes are not coming in as fast if anybody holding their Honda's, next 2 years will be the opportunity to make a quick buck |
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Oct 23 2023, 12:41 AM) I was told some models masuk, particularly I heard the CB500X, so yeah... this is verified by you, thanksthis model I minat, but... I guess, I have to settle for something else that is more readily available and budget friendly XADV also start coming in, but the waiting list is in the range of hundreds |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 23 2023, 07:32 AM) I was told some models masuk, particularly I heard the CB500X, so yeah... this is verified by you, thanks No need verified by me, just follow bw pj fb page, they upload photos of new bike deliveries. One of my friend received delivery of cb500x, and there's a photo of bwpj with one row of Cbr650r. But the Cb650r is nowhere to be seen. Luckily I didn't wait.this model I minat, but... I guess, I have to settle for something else that is more readily available and budget friendly XADV also start coming in, but the waiting list is in the range of hundreds My friend who bought the cb500x was very interested in the xadv, until he test rode his friend's unit and said the bike is not nice to ride This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: Oct 23 2023, 09:37 AM |
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Oct 23 2023, 09:36 AM) No need verified by me, just follow bw pj fb page, they upload photos of new bike deliveries. One of my friend received delivery of cb500x, and there's a photo of bwpj with one row of Cbr650r. But the Cb650r is nowhere to be seen. Luckily I didn't wait. I see... I tested CB500X, very good... XADV also very good, maybe your friend tak biasa scooter? Just the launch of XADV a bit juddering, and the engine revs very low. Riding long distance with the XADV is a superb pleasureMy friend who bought the cb500x was very interested in the xadv, until he test rode his friend's unit and said the bike is not nice to ride |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 23 2023, 09:41 AM) I see... I tested CB500X, very good... XADV also very good, maybe your friend tak biasa scooter? Just the launch of XADV a bit juddering, and the engine revs very low. Riding long distance with the XADV is a superb pleasure My friend also owns a xmax and vespa so he's pretty well versed with scooters I'd say. He also owns a Katana, Ducati scrambler and the cb500x is his latest addition to the fleet. He said the xadv was one of his dream bjems then when his friend let him try it, he was disappointed This post has been edited by Nightstalker1993: Oct 23 2023, 09:57 AM |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 18 2022, 08:13 PM) Gone to some Big Wings, see the big wing sales fellas need to sell kapzai Sudah tukar kerajaan..dia orang janji undi dia menang akan turun harga. Jadi Tunggu motor big bike turun harga baru masuk stock...tunggu.....motor murah baru jual kot...kalau tidak rakyat marahbecause no big bikes landing in showroom... adui... what's happening ah? This post has been edited by tkw60: Oct 23 2023, 10:05 AM |
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Oct 23 2023, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Oct 23 2023, 09:56 AM) My friend also owns a xmax and vespa so he's pretty well versed with scooters I'd say. He also owns a Katana, Ducati scrambler and the cb500x is his latest addition to the fleet. He said the xadv was one of his dream bjems then when his friend let him try it, he was disappointed ok, but he's right, the XADV doesn't launch very well, and it's pretty laid backand the gearing, keeps the engine struggling to push the bike I felt the engine just 'brrr' under, but the gearing doesn't let it push the bike forward there's no thrill |
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Oct 26 2023, 04:41 PM
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Nov 7 2023, 06:24 PM
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theres also cb1000 hornet but this just reminds me of z1000
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Nov 7 2023, 06:51 PM
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malaysia when can get?? lol itu lain cerita... |
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Nov 8 2023, 10:25 AM
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Jan 2 2024, 11:18 PM
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any sources for the CBR650R on the release date for Malaysia?
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Jan 3 2024, 12:16 AM
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Jan 3 2024, 10:34 AM
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until old stock are cleared, bsh is in no hurry to sell the new version... sure will naik harga summore... lowpro liked this post
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Jan 5 2024, 12:13 PM
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not sure want to wait for the new 2024 model or ditch Honda and jump into some European brands lol, Triumph is releasing a new Daytona 660 tho
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Jan 16 2024, 01:32 PM
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Hypetrain inkambing!!!
It's about the ADV350 coming to the bolehland this year. Sos: https://<link removed>/2024/01/15/honda-adv-35...-debut-in-2024/ Dunno true or not. |
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Jan 27 2024, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jan 16 2024, 01:32 PM) Hypetrain inkambing!!! It's in the pipeline... but since it's a CBU model, arrival will be affected do to unresolved beurocracy in BSH...It's about the ADV350 coming to the bolehland this year. Sos: <a href='https://<link removed>/2024/01/15/honda-adv-350-making-malaysian-debut-in-2024/' target='_blank'>https://<link removed>/2024/01/15/honda-adv-35...-debut-in-2024/</a> Dunno true or not. |
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Jan 27 2024, 11:15 AM
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Jan 30 2024, 09:48 AM
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Jan 30 2024, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(selenium @ Jan 27 2024, 09:34 AM) It's in the pipeline... but since it's a CBU model, arrival will be affected do to unresolved beurocracy in BSH... Heard them pointing finger at AP owner aka. fastbike boss.In fact recently there was a large batch of XADV750 brought in by fastbike boss but given mostly to his friends to sell rather than usual BigWing. Dunno lah all this just kopi shop talk. |
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Jan 30 2024, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jan 30 2024, 10:03 AM) Heard them pointing finger at AP owner aka. fastbike boss. I placed booking there, since no need to pay any deposit. In fact recently there was a large batch of XADV750 brought in by fastbike boss but given mostly to his friends to sell rather than usual BigWing. Dunno lah all this just kopi shop talk. Let see how it turned up, as fastbike promised this April got 200 X-ADV coming. Patent and WH4CockcooBird liked this post
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Jan 31 2024, 12:20 PM
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Jan 31 2024, 12:53 PM
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Jan 31 2024, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jan 31 2024, 12:53 PM) got put one on display last year at motorshow mar lowpro liked this post
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Jan 31 2024, 02:14 PM
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Jan 31 2024, 04:51 PM
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CB350rs is popular in yindia.. I prefer cb400sf.
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Feb 2 2024, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jan 31 2024, 04:51 PM) Yes, you're right. Probably due to income levels, and bad roads and maybe lack of service centres (I did mention 'probably'), they prefer small capacity, single cylinder bikes. But Yamaha is seen to be getting back into the single game too with the upcoming SR400 https://www.yamaha-motor.co.th/bigbike/sr400-2023/overview |
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Feb 2 2024, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Feb 2 2024, 09:40 AM) Yes, you're right. Probably due to income levels, and bad roads and maybe lack of service centres (I did mention 'probably'), they prefer small capacity, single cylinder bikes. But Yamaha is seen to be getting back into the single game too with the upcoming SR400 https://www.yamaha-motor.co.th/bigbike/sr400-2023/overview Single cylinder bikes is price friendly. But, riders need to suffer vibrations. lowpro liked this post
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Feb 2 2024, 04:18 PM
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price frenly in india; not in msia lol...
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Feb 3 2024, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 2 2024, 04:18 PM) Yes, it doesn't apply on bolehland(Scalpers heaven).I believe the OTR price would be 25k-30k RM la. Hope I am wrong.. lowpro liked this post
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Apr 23 2024, 08:48 PM
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May 2024 also coming liao and Big Wing still selling kapchai... sad... lowpro liked this post
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Apr 24 2024, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Apr 24 2024, 12:50 PM) Yup, no news on any local mid/big sizes bike recently.. I think BSH offended Honda Jap, they can't get stock allocation priority. Rebels and CBR650 are trickling in, but not other models.Some says the AP holder also play a part with BSH and not just Honda Thai / Jap. I am still patiently waiting for ADV350 after giving up the Forza that arrived 1.5 years after booking |
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Apr 24 2024, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Apr 24 2024, 01:32 PM) Rebels and CBR650 are trickling in, but not other models. Speaking of latest CB650.. its available in TW markets. With E-clutch, it makes you feel like riding a 200+kg kapchai, keep the left hand from squeezing clutch. This is fun especially riding in urban heavy traffic.. with frequent stop & go situations.Some says the AP holder also play a part with BSH and not just Honda Thai / Jap. I am still patiently waiting for ADV350 after giving up the Forza that arrived 1.5 years after booking hvk13 liked this post
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Apr 24 2024, 02:41 PM) Speaking of latest CB650.. its available in TW markets. With E-clutch, it makes you feel like riding a 200+kg kapchai, keep the left hand from squeezing clutch. This is fun especially riding in urban heavy traffic.. with frequent stop & go situations. This might sway me over to non-scooter.. will see. |
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May 19 2024, 02:28 PM
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do you guys think boon siew honda will announce the 2024 cb/cbr650r at Malaysia Autoshow 2024?
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May 19 2024, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(waili008 @ May 19 2024, 02:28 PM) I think BSH will announce new models in the MA2024. There lots of rumours floating around.. including the cb350 (the curryland bike), ADV 350, transalp 750(XL750) & etc. have to wait patiently for BSH reveal the details.This post has been edited by yhsiau: May 19 2024, 03:24 PM lowpro and WH4CockcooBird liked this post
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May 21 2024, 05:41 PM
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Adv350 price leaked.. 33999rm. OMG.
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May 21 2024, 06:18 PM
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May 21 2024, 06:39 PM
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Ok la. At least launch smthing, Hongleong ymh doesnt even bother.... |
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May 21 2024, 07:01 PM
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May 21 2024, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 21 2024, 07:01 PM) Unless BSH adv350 comes with 42 litter Shad keyless topbox. so many questions about their pricing decision..Else, it's a turn off for me. They never mentioned about its specs.. I can sure that if it's a Jap CBU bike, the engine displacement will be capped @ 250cc. adv 350 - way too overpriced, might as well get zontes 350 nx500 - also overpriced, versys 650 is the better choice at this price cb750 hornet - similar retail price with gsx 8s but suzuki have been giving 10k rebate for the past 6 months, making their bike price 40k.. also cb750 need add on quickshifter (no idea if it come default in our country) arguably the hornet has more power compared to the suzuki, still the pricing is still not that good IMO but maybe because 'H' tag they can do this? im a believer that market disruption has happened with cheaper bikes (china) having the same if not better build quality.. with ready stocks This post has been edited by Patent: May 21 2024, 07:25 PM |
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QUOTE(Patent @ May 21 2024, 07:23 PM) so many questions about their pricing decision.. The Wing brand bike sure have abundant confidents on its products pricing. True fans will get watever they want just like the apple "i" products. adv 350 - way too overpriced, might as well get zontes 350 nx500 - also overpriced, versys 650 is the better choice at this price cb750 hornet - similar retail price with gsx 8s but suzuki have been giving 10k rebate for the past 6 months, making their bike price 40k.. also cb750 need add on quickshifter (no idea if it come default in our country) arguably the hornet has more power compared to the suzuki, still the pricing is still not that good IMO but maybe because 'H' tag they can do this? im a believer that market disruption has happened with cheaper bikes (china) having the same if not better build quality.. with ready stocks |
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QUOTE(Patent @ May 21 2024, 07:23 PM) so many questions about their pricing decision.. i think first things first - got to catch up with some old friends in the Wing and expect good news on this topic adv 350 - way too overpriced, might as well get zontes 350 nx500 - also overpriced, versys 650 is the better choice at this price cb750 hornet - similar retail price with gsx 8s but suzuki have been giving 10k rebate for the past 6 months, making their bike price 40k.. also cb750 need add on quickshifter (no idea if it come default in our country) arguably the hornet has more power compared to the suzuki, still the pricing is still not that good IMO but maybe because 'H' tag they can do this? im a believer that market disruption has happened with cheaper bikes (china) having the same if not better build quality.. with ready stocks for the pricing, given the legacy and reliability of Honda, the bikes will still sell like hot cakes (from what i can see today, Honda booth is the one that attracted the most attention) my feedback is only on the ADV350 which i was eyeing on. the price point is ok for me as it is not too far off an upgrade from what i am using now (XMAX250) but i am surprised to see that it is so small and compact (which is not suitable for a 6 footer like me) QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 21 2024, 07:37 PM) The Wing brand bike sure have abundant confidents on its products pricing. True fans will get watever they want just like the apple "i" products. As a Honda fan - kinda insulted u compared us to "Cap epal" hahahha. (sorry Cap Epal fans)for the price - Xadv is as above .. for the NX500 - not too far off the CB500 it is replacing for the transalps.... i think that pricing is kinda sweet spot for those wanting an alternative to the Africa twin (which is almost double the price) kinda agree on the Hornet thou - with that price, have many more option This post has been edited by selenium: May 22 2024, 06:00 PM |
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May 22 2024, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(selenium @ May 22 2024, 05:53 PM) As a Honda fan - kinda insulted u compared us to "Cap epal" hahahha. (sorry Cap Epal fans) 34krm body price way too much for me.. was expecting 30krm or below. Some more, those scalper might hit 40krm otr price Which is likely to be happened.for the price - Xadv is as above .. for the NX500 - not too far off the CB500 it is replacing for the transalps.... i think that pricing is kinda sweet spot for those wanting an alternative to the Africa twin (which is almost double the price) kinda agree on the Hornet thou - with that price, have many more option Basically, I think BSH apply this 1 big item price = 2 small item price on its products. Therefore, Price of the Xadv = 2 X adv350 price. But can't brain that price of ADV 350 = 2.5 X adv160 price. |
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 22 2024, 06:20 PM) 34krm body price way too much for me.. was expecting 30krm or below. Some more, those scalper might hit 40krm otr price Which is likely to be happened. This will be sold only in bigwing thus I kinda confident the price won't run far from the RSPBasically, I think BSH apply this 1 big item price = 2 small item price on its products. Therefore, Price of the Xadv = 2 X adv350 price. But can't brain that price of ADV 350 = 2.5 X adv160 price. But no guarantee if someone buys from them and resale it at higher price To your point of 30k below... then everyone will flock to this bike instead of Xmax or forza... |
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QUOTE(selenium @ May 22 2024, 07:06 PM) Adv 350 is a just tuned up version of Forza 350 (NSS350). The price gap between Forza & Adv 350 is too significant.Not really every1 will flock to this bike if priced below 30KRM (body price), it could fend off the competition heats from Zontes for now. Zontes incoming ADV scooter(368g & 501) could prove serious competition to honda Adv scooter. Most of the B full riders might think that this Adv 350 offers less appeal to them. This post has been edited by yhsiau: May 22 2024, 07:47 PM |
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May 22 2024, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(selenium @ May 22 2024, 05:53 PM) i think first things first - got to catch up with some old friends in the Wing and expect good news on this topic its just my observation of the marketfor the pricing, given the legacy and reliability of Honda, the bikes will still sell like hot cakes (from what i can see today, Honda booth is the one that attracted the most attention) my feedback is only on the ADV350 which i was eyeing on. the price point is ok for me as it is not too far off an upgrade from what i am using now (XMAX250) but i am surprised to see that it is so small and compact (which is not suitable for a 6 footer like me) As a Honda fan - kinda insulted u compared us to "Cap epal" hahahha. (sorry Cap Epal fans) for the price - Xadv is as above .. for the NX500 - not too far off the CB500 it is replacing for the transalps.... i think that pricing is kinda sweet spot for those wanting an alternative to the Africa twin (which is almost double the price) kinda agree on the Hornet thou - with that price, have many more option do the adv tag really matter for a scooter or is it just a gimmick? I still think 34k for a 350 maxi scooter is overpriced qjmotor fort 350 is 23k (although we dont know how reliable it is) getting adv160 then change engine to 350 at thailand will cost less from what i heard nx500 price is too close to versys 650, why would they do that? in UK its retail price is 2000 pound less than versys. I don't really see honda as anything special today, sure they have great history and all that but should they charge premium for that? Our people also not getting richer with the upcoming ron95 subsidy removal This post has been edited by Patent: May 22 2024, 07:42 PM |
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QUOTE(Patent @ May 22 2024, 07:38 PM) its just my observation of the market Hmmm fair point... do the adv tag really matter for a scooter or is it just a gimmick? I still think 34k for a 350 maxi scooter is overpriced qjmotor fort 350 is 23k (although we dont know how reliable it is) getting adv160 then change engine to 350 at thailand will cost less from what i heard nx500 price is too close to versys 650, why would they do that? in UK its retail price is 2000 pound less than versys. I don't really see honda as anything special today, sure they have great history and all that but should they charge premium for that? Our people also not getting richer with the upcoming ron95 subsidy removal Interested to know more on the adv 160 engine swap |
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May 22 2024, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 22 2024, 07:24 PM) Adv 350 is a just tuned up version of Forza 350 (NSS350). The price gap between Forza & Adv 350 is too significant. Apologies but i was referring to the latest offering of Forza 250cc.. which is priced at 27-29k OTRNot really every1 will flock to this bike if priced below 30KRM (body price), it could fend off the competition heats from Zontes for now. Zontes incoming ADV scooter(368g & 501) could prove serious competition to honda Adv scooter. Most of the B full riders might think that this Adv 350 offers less appeal to them. i dont think its fair to compare with Zontes as Honda has the legacy but i wont deny the bikes from china (or MFORCE) is ramping up to corner the two taikor in MY (Y and H) but you are right, ADV350 requiring B full will be one of the major turn offs for a wider audience |
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QUOTE(selenium @ May 22 2024, 09:03 PM) Apologies but i was referring to the latest offering of Forza 250cc.. which is priced at 27-29k OTR I think major turn off of the ADV350 is not the cc but the price itself... imagine RRP was RM34k and when the bike arrive at shop they will jack up the price to RM39k... for me the price itself was a major turn off...i dont think its fair to compare with Zontes as Honda has the legacy but i wont deny the bikes from china (or MFORCE) is ramping up to corner the two taikor in MY (Y and H) but you are right, ADV350 requiring B full will be one of the major turn offs for a wider audience yhsiau liked this post
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May 23 2024, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ May 23 2024, 04:48 PM) I think major turn off of the ADV350 is not the cc but the price itself... imagine RRP was RM34k and when the bike arrive at shop they will jack up the price to RM39k... for me the price itself was a major turn off... Yup, the price between the forza & ADV 350 in the bolehland is too significant. |
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TBH I am preparing to pay RM35K~36K for ADV350 before knowing the list price.
Knowing the list price now is RM34k, it falls nicely in the price I am happy with. Only when price gouging by shops e.g. iCity (not Big Wing) that is pissing me off. I hope Big Wing does keep to their discipline of pricing. I also know PJ Big Wing (ex. Fast Bike) did break this rules with last batch of XADV750 as they are also the AP owner to import these big bikes for BS and HL. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ May 23 2024, 06:32 PM) TBH I am preparing to pay RM35K~36K for ADV350 before knowing the list price. the SOP is ini macam Knowing the list price now is RM34k, it falls nicely in the price I am happy with. Only when price gouging by shops e.g. iCity (not Big Wing) that is pissing me off. I hope Big Wing does keep to their discipline of pricing. I also know PJ Big Wing (ex. Fast Bike) did break this rules with last batch of XADV750 as they are also the AP owner to import these big bikes for BS and HL. Bikes above 250cc, usually is only sold to Big wing - for big wing to get the bikes, they need to submit the waiting list if the CBU bikes landed at sub dealers is either they do something illegal (get the chasis number and report to BSH) or they bought via runner and resell it at their shop(the bike might be registered, but they can interchange the numbers to avoid detection) yes, fast bike is appointed bigwing to temporary resolve the AP issue, but it seems they only satisfy their own waiting list (from what i can tell as i have already left BSH at that time). A chat with my kaki kepak has informally informed me that the issue is resolved (Fingers crossed) |
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QUOTE(selenium @ May 23 2024, 09:42 PM) the SOP is ini macam Toes, hands, legs all crossed.Bikes above 250cc, usually is only sold to Big wing - for big wing to get the bikes, they need to submit the waiting list if the CBU bikes landed at sub dealers is either they do something illegal (get the chasis number and report to BSH) or they bought via runner and resell it at their shop(the bike might be registered, but they can interchange the numbers to avoid detection) yes, fast bike is appointed bigwing to temporary resolve the AP issue, but it seems they only satisfy their own waiting list (from what i can tell as i have already left BSH at that time). A chat with my kaki kepak has informally informed me that the issue is resolved (Fingers crossed) |
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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ May 24 2024, 12:20 PM) I saw thailand price for ADV and Forza around RM22k.... our Xmax also expensive what from 24k to 29k Xmax expensive, but got ppl buy at 30++k personally, price for ADV350 is in the sweet spot(if you get it from bigwing and not scalpers) but i dont really like the bike cause it is really small for a maxi scooter. put down a booking for the 750 instead and farming for money while waiting for the stock to arrive.... |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jun 26 2024, 05:47 PM) The price is very competitive against RE & Triumph 300cc+ retro bike products.. unlike the ADV350. This post has been edited by yhsiau: Jun 26 2024, 10:38 PM lowpro liked this post
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My ADV350 arrived at showroom but I am not around. Told salesman I wait next batch lah...
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Aug 7 2024, 09:40 AM) My ADV350 arrived at showroom but I am not around. Told salesman I wait next batch lah... Cool.. Positive is, my full face helmet can masuk. I am waiting for your review of this bike. WH4CockcooBird liked this post
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Aug 7 2024, 08:23 PM) SA ping me today please pay up 'cos bike arrived (again) for me.Ok lah, on business travel so told him keep for me I will transfer balance over. Back in few weeks time to collect. |
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Aug 7 2024, 08:23 PM) Quick and short update.Ride less than 500km so far New suspension hard but after thar few hundred KM begin to behave a bit. Overall (surprisingly) ride like my ADV160 kind of nimbleness on road. Really loves going around bends. Torque is there, climbing Karak Cameron like flat road. Does not set road on fire so don't expect it a rocket launcher more a torquey rider. It's just a bit heavy at stationary to push around. 185kg. Don't ask me top speed. I ride around 80-100km/h speed, only accelerate (easily) to 130 during overtake. yhsiau liked this post
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But good to know I have some reserve after 130km/h momentary peak during overtaking.
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 9 2024, 09:48 AM) I noticed I am hovering around 3.5k-4.5k rpm but will confirm back. top speed = cube root (hp) * 49.5 kmhGone to 6k rpm when overtake up to 130km/h, or when climbing hills. It's alright. Never have balls for this speed. Don't think I will ever find out. my 400 is a twin cylinder, so power comes at later rpm, around 1k late, 30kph at 3k, then slowly 90kph at 5.5k RPM so it isn't as fuel economy as the ADV350, around 20km/liter only |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 9 2024, 10:11 AM) top speed = cube root (hp) * 49.5 kmh My screen reporting 29km/liter for 330cc. So your 400cc getting 20km/liter is ok lah.my 400 is a twin cylinder, so power comes at later rpm, around 1k late, 30kph at 3k, then slowly 90kph at 5.5k RPM so it isn't as fuel economy as the ADV350, around 20km/liter only Compared to my ADV160 that's around 45km/h, had to say the efficiency of 350 is good. alexei liked this post
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 9 2024, 10:55 AM) My screen reporting 29km/liter for 330cc. So your 400cc getting 20km/liter is ok lah. Singles are very fuel efficient if kept at low speeds. But Honda engines are typically very frugal. Both the 500 and 750 xadv/nc mills sips gas.Compared to my ADV160 that's around 45km/h, had to say the efficiency of 350 is good. My similar sized dominar will also do 27-30km/L if ridden at 80-100. The funny part is my dominar and 800nk gets the same fuel economy numbers going at 140 so go figure..... |
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 9 2024, 12:39 PM) Singles are very fuel efficient if kept at low speeds. But Honda engines are typically very frugal. Both the 500 and 750 xadv/nc mills sips gas. yeah, even the Tigers are frugalMy similar sized dominar will also do 27-30km/L if ridden at 80-100. The funny part is my dominar and 800nk gets the same fuel economy numbers going at 140 so go figure..... |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 9 2024, 06:56 AM) Quick and short update. Cool.. better saving $$$. Ride less than 500km so far New suspension hard but after thar few hundred KM begin to behave a bit. Overall (surprisingly) ride like my ADV160 kind of nimbleness on road. Really loves going around bends. Torque is there, climbing Karak Cameron like flat road. Does not set road on fire so don't expect it a rocket launcher more a torquey rider. It's just a bit heavy at stationary to push around. 185kg. Don't ask me top speed. I ride around 80-100km/h speed, only accelerate (easily) to 130 during overtake. |
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 9 2024, 01:35 PM) Honestly, there's buyer remorse when I saw the new Forza side by side with my ADV350.Forza looks soooo elegant and classy, albeit with 250cc engine, overall maintenance cost is much lower. You have the option of ahem ahem it to same engine as 350 at below 4k only while keeping your engine number.. ahem.... The Forza windshield and rear view mirror really nice. yhsiau liked this post
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 9 2024, 03:55 PM) Honestly, there's buyer remorse when I saw the new Forza side by side with my ADV350. BW can do such service!? Forza looks soooo elegant and classy, albeit with 250cc engine, overall maintenance cost is much lower. You have the option of ahem ahem it to same engine as 350 at below 4k only while keeping your engine number.. ahem.... The Forza windshield and rear view mirror really nice. |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 9 2024, 01:28 PM) yeah i was surprised to know Triumph Tiger 900 has about the same fuel mileage as my Z650. Considering its a bigger bike. alexei liked this post
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the ADV 350 so tiny..... got the 750 instead.
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QUOTE(selenium @ Sep 15 2024, 01:44 PM) the ADV 350 so tiny..... got the 750 instead. then after a while, it wears off, and the shortcomings will present itself... hahaha, then, there's no replacement for itNever understood why the ADV 750 was so popular even after working for so long in BSH.... now i know why Its a big bike that handles like a small bike.... so nimble and satisfying |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 15 2024, 08:32 PM) then after a while, it wears off, and the shortcomings will present itself... hahaha, then, there's no replacement for it The only short coming is the tangki minyak yang kecik ... so far alexei liked this post
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QUOTE(selenium @ Sep 15 2024, 01:44 PM) the ADV 350 so tiny..... got the 750 instead. Somehow the 750 does not click for me.Never understood why the ADV 750 was so popular even after working for so long in BSH.... now i know why Its a big bike that handles like a small bike.... so nimble and satisfying Friend shoved one for me to ride, all I did was went down the road turn back and hand key back to him. For me, it's too heavy (stationary), too small underseat storage. Somehow I just can't click with it. Got my 350 for couple weeks now. Had to say it's perfect for what I am looking for a practical bike. Leisurely going about 70-90km/h, plenty space under seat. Gone through crazy KL traffic on Saturday without breaking sweat, surprisingly easy. Just ordered bracket for top box (from my old bike). Gonna be a keeper for me. yhsiau liked this post
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 9 2024, 08:46 PM) how much you got your adv350 for? it's selling way over the sticker price, major turn off for me.QUOTE(hvk13 @ Sep 13 2024, 11:12 AM) yeah i was surprised to know Triumph Tiger 900 has about the same fuel mileage as my Z650. Considering its a bigger bike. i'm averaging about 4.5l/100km on my tiger 800. this is including high speed highway run, low speed gravel, tarik at the traffic light etc.if i keep it below 110kmh i get below 4l/100km average. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 30 2024, 12:39 PM) Have to agree the price is way over sticker close to 39k I paid. Even sticker price is way over Thai's price of RM23k. ![]() which makes the forza 250 an even better proposition. alor setar is selling the forza at sticker price with no markup. RM25888 base price and RM27288 IINM on the road with insurance 1st party all rider. really hard to resist |
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QUOTE(paskal @ Sep 30 2024, 08:06 PM) ![]() which makes the forza 250 an even better proposition. alor setar is selling the forza at sticker price with no markup. RM25888 base price and RM27288 IINM on the road with insurance 1st party all rider. really hard to resist Super sexy... I might even send it to up spec 350 few months after owning it. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 30 2024, 08:11 PM) Yep! Fully agree! Me buyer remorse when I saw the Forza NSS beside. I am holding back my plan now. The new 2025 Forza 350 was announced. It has several improvement over the older generation.. windshield max adjustable height is 180mm, the old 1 is 150mm. 5 inch TFT display!! Same type as it's big brother (Forza 750). This 1 pwn Xmax tiny TFT display any time. Super sexy... I might even send it to up spec 350 few months after owning it. It come under seat storage lights too. This post has been edited by yhsiau: Oct 6 2024, 11:08 AM |
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Oct 6 2024, 12:02 PM) I am holding back my plan now. The new 2025 Forza 350 was announced. It has several improvement over the older generation.. windshield max adjustable height is 180mm, the old 1 is 150mm. 5 inch TFT display!! Same type as it's big brother (Forza 750). This 1 pwn Xmax tiny TFT display any time. Please share the source of the announcement that Forza 350 will be coming into MalaysiaIt come under seat storage lights too. |
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Oct 6 2024, 03:46 PM) It's announced in Siam.. YouTube video available. Bolehland sure to get at least 1 Year later as always. I don't believe BSH will bring in poza 350.At the moment they have only poza to compete in the 250 market but with plenty of china scooter competing in this same market (price range) with 350 scooter. |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jan 18 2025, 10:13 AM) I don't believe BSH will bring in poza 350. adv 350 also might be taking a hit in sales since zontes 368 released.At the moment they have only poza to compete in the 250 market but with plenty of china scooter competing in this same market (price range) with 350 scooter. not to mention other 300-350 scooters also coming like sym husky, qjmotor and possibly also sym adx 400. this month only many maxi scooters coming into our market that even aveta manage to make one |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jan 18 2025, 10:13 AM) I don't believe BSH will bring in poza 350. BSH just "sandai" if it doesn't feel the heats of competition..At the moment they have only poza to compete in the 250 market but with plenty of china scooter competing in this same market (price range) with 350 scooter. It's just a refresh version.. just upgraded the screen & the controller switch. |
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QUOTE(Patent @ Jan 18 2025, 02:30 PM) adv 350 also might be taking a hit in sales since zontes 368 released. not to mention other 300-350 scooters also coming like sym husky, qjmotor and possibly also sym adx 400. this month only many maxi scooters coming into our market that even aveta manage to make one QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jan 18 2025, 06:57 PM) BSH just "sandai" if it doesn't feel the heats of competition.. ADV350 took advantage of the popularity of their ADV150 / ADV160. It's just a refresh version.. just upgraded the screen & the controller switch. The list price is not bad at 34k but price gouging by greedy importer and distributor and AP holder selling it for 39k ~ 44k made it less appealing for a 330cc scooter other than Honda brand. They didn't expect the market to get noisy with competitors. Zontes 368G launching at 29k (vs 34k for Honda) isn't too far off, if comparing list price. OTR price of Zontes is still below 30k, compared to 39k for Honda. I think many, including owner of ADV350 are turning to Zontes. Sym Husky 300 came in at 268cc, 100cc less than Zontes and price it below XMax price, which is expected when market perception for Japanese bike should be higher price and better quality. Sym riding on brand reputation is already taking a chunk of 150 scooter with their Husky 150. A success never seen with Sym after their VTS200. Shall see how the Husky 300 take on the market with ready stock while 368 buyers are waiting for theirs to arrive. Meanwhile, QJ brand under MF**** is gaining a little traction 'cos it's Fort 350 uses Kymco 350 engine that happened to be OEM by BMW for it's C400. Hence people say QJ use BMW engine. However, QJ as a brand doesn't have streamlined product strategy so I have doubt in their support if want to own the product for long. Another brand under MF**** WMoto is getting quieter with plenty gremlins reported on all the models. Acceptance rate of new model gonna get hammered. This post has been edited by WH4CockcooBird: Jan 18 2025, 08:42 PM |
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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jan 18 2025, 08:41 PM) ADV350 took advantage of the popularity of their ADV150 / ADV160. I think its the Xadv design influence not the ADV150 / ADV160.. the NT1100 also looked similar but bigger & wider. ADV350 took advantage of the popularity of their ADV150 / ADV160 This post has been edited by yhsiau: Jan 18 2025, 09:33 PM |
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wonder when the new cb1000 hornet gonna land in here and whats the pricing gonna be.
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QUOTE(Patent @ Jan 23 2025, 07:21 PM) wonder when the new cb1000 hornet gonna land in here and whats the pricing gonna be. The CB750 Hornet is already more expensive than the current Z900. If the CB1000 comes in, it will probably be as expensive as the Triumph 765RS or more.outside pricing close to z900, but maybe thats not possible here. |
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QUOTE(donatelo @ Jan 24 2025, 09:06 AM) The CB750 Hornet is already more expensive than the current Z900. If the CB1000 comes in, it will probably be as expensive as the Triumph 765RS or more. it being a honda and CBU doesn't really help the pricing locally. in a perfect world where we have outside pricing translate directly to local pricing, the cb1000 would have devoured the 900~1000cc segment. looking at cbr650r e-clutch is priced at 7999£ (rm49,999 or rm6.25/£) and cb1000 at 8999£, should only be rm60k max for the cb1000. rhetorically speaking. |
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QUOTE(david22022022 @ Jan 26 2025, 09:41 AM) it being a honda and CBU doesn't really help the pricing locally. in a perfect world where we have outside pricing translate directly to local pricing, the cb1000 would have devoured the 900~1000cc segment. CB1000 60k might not possible...look at last gen single arm around 70klooking at cbr650r e-clutch is priced at 7999£ (rm49,999 or rm6.25/£) and cb1000 at 8999£, should only be rm60k max for the cb1000. rhetorically speaking. |
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QUOTE(david22022022 @ Jan 26 2025, 09:41 AM) it being a honda and CBU doesn't really help the pricing locally. in a perfect world where we have outside pricing translate directly to local pricing, the cb1000 would have devoured the 900~1000cc segment. I think cb1000 hornet competition in our market is against suzuki gsx-s1000. If Honda isn't being stupid they'd price around it.looking at cbr650r e-clutch is priced at 7999£ (rm49,999 or rm6.25/£) and cb1000 at 8999£, should only be rm60k max for the cb1000. rhetorically speaking. the SP model is a really good deal looking at eu pricing |
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QUOTE(Patent @ Jan 26 2025, 03:04 PM) I think cb1000 hornet competition in our market is against suzuki gsx-s1000. If Honda isn't being stupid they'd price around it. Honda being Honda, brand premium and Honda tax will apply.the SP model is a really good deal looking at eu pricing Don't expect them to follow the normal logic. Patent liked this post
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QUOTE(Patent @ Jan 23 2025, 07:21 PM) wonder when the new cb1000 hornet gonna land in here and whats the pricing gonna be. Grey import always welcome you ! outside pricing close to z900, but maybe thats not possible here. lowpro liked this post
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