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 Honda big bikes ... stock starvation, why ah?

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post Jul 18 2023, 05:12 PM

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even old cb650f is holding its value because so hard to get new cb650r laugh.gif
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post Aug 9 2023, 08:00 PM

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can always find second hand cbr..
now that zx-10r is out sure got many gatal to upgrade
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post Aug 13 2023, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(waili008 @ Aug 13 2023, 05:11 PM)
I heard news about the new CBR650R is going to announce next year? any thoughts on this?
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i'd have very low expectation for it to arrive here..
even the new hornet isnt here yet
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post Nov 7 2023, 06:24 PM

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theres also cb1000 hornet but this just reminds me of z1000 laugh.gif
also no more single swing arm

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post Jan 3 2024, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(waili008 @ Jan 2 2024, 11:18 PM)
any sources for the CBR650R on the release date for Malaysia?
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the one with e-clutch? no idea..
but new stock (2023) is already in looking at the bigwings
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post May 21 2024, 06:18 PM

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the price... lol
this time sure got stock?

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post May 21 2024, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ May 21 2024, 07:01 PM)
Unless BSH adv350 comes with 42 litter Shad keyless topbox.
Else, it's a turn off for me. They never mentioned about its specs..
I can sure that if it's a Jap CBU bike, the engine displacement will be capped @ 250cc.
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so many questions about their pricing decision..

adv 350 - way too overpriced, might as well get zontes 350
nx500 - also overpriced, versys 650 is the better choice at this price
cb750 hornet - similar retail price with gsx 8s but suzuki have been giving 10k rebate for the past 6 months, making their bike price 40k.. also cb750 need add on quickshifter (no idea if it come default in our country)

arguably the hornet has more power compared to the suzuki, still the pricing is still not that good IMO

but maybe because 'H' tag they can do this? hmm.gif
im a believer that market disruption has happened with cheaper bikes (china) having the same if not better build quality.. with ready stocks

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post May 22 2024, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(selenium @ May 22 2024, 05:53 PM)
i think first things first - got to catch up with some old friends in the Wing and expect good news on this topic

for the pricing, given the legacy and reliability of Honda, the bikes will still sell like hot cakes (from what i can see today, Honda booth is the one that attracted the most attention)

my feedback is only on the ADV350 which i was eyeing on. the price point is ok for me as it is not too far off an upgrade from what i am using now (XMAX250) but i am surprised to see that it is so small and compact (which is not suitable for a 6 footer like me)
As a Honda fan - kinda insulted u compared us to "Cap epal" hahahha. (sorry Cap Epal fans)

for the price - Xadv is as above ..
for the NX500 - not too far off the CB500 it is replacing
for the transalps.... i think that pricing is kinda sweet spot for those wanting an alternative to the Africa twin (which is almost double the price)
kinda agree on the Hornet thou - with that price, have many more option
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its just my observation of the market

do the adv tag really matter for a scooter or is it just a gimmick? I still think 34k for a 350 maxi scooter is overpriced
qjmotor fort 350 is 23k (although we dont know how reliable it is)

getting adv160 then change engine to 350 at thailand will cost less from what i heard whistling.gif

nx500 price is too close to versys 650, why would they do that? in UK its retail price is 2000 pound less than versys.

I don't really see honda as anything special today, sure they have great history and all that but should they charge premium for that?

Our people also not getting richer with the upcoming ron95 subsidy removal laugh.gif


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post May 22 2024, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(selenium @ May 22 2024, 08:36 PM)
Hmmm fair point...

Interested to know more on the adv 160 engine swap
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need to ask geng thailand.. they usually know the place
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post Jan 18 2025, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jan 18 2025, 10:13 AM)
I don't believe BSH will bring in poza 350.

At the moment they have only poza to compete in the 250 market but with plenty of china scooter competing in this same market (price range) with 350 scooter.
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adv 350 also might be taking a hit in sales since zontes 368 released.
not to mention other 300-350 scooters also coming like sym husky, qjmotor and possibly also sym adx 400.

this month only many maxi scooters coming into our market that even aveta manage to make one laugh.gif
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post Jan 23 2025, 07:21 PM

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wonder when the new cb1000 hornet gonna land in here and whats the pricing gonna be. hmm.gif

outside pricing close to z900, but maybe thats not possible here.
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post Jan 26 2025, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(david22022022 @ Jan 26 2025, 09:41 AM)
it being a honda and CBU doesn't really help the pricing locally. in a perfect world where we have outside pricing translate directly to local pricing, the cb1000 would have devoured the 900~1000cc segment.

looking at cbr650r e-clutch is priced at 7999£ (rm49,999 or rm6.25/£) and cb1000 at  8999£, should only be rm60k max for the cb1000. rhetorically speaking.
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I think cb1000 hornet competition in our market is against suzuki gsx-s1000. If Honda isn't being stupid they'd price around it.
the SP model is a really good deal looking at eu pricing
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post Jan 26 2025, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Jan 26 2025, 04:24 PM)
Honda being Honda, brand premium and Honda tax will apply.

Don't expect them to follow the normal logic.

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one can only hope haha laugh.gif
I would love to buy the cb1000r single swing arm if it weren't so overpriced

 

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