But a the very least, you will be lubing the stabs using some lube, right?

Yes, sorry I was unclear. 205 is sufficient for me on the tighter tolerance stabs. For others, grease is needed.

my current takes are the following:
- switch: jwick linear with 4mm total key travel distance, non-silent;
- spring: tx / sprit;
- lube: krytox gpl (oil, grease);
- mods: the essential are switch (at least lubing spring and back of leaf), and stabilizers (at least bandaid mod with ptfe tape; lubing housing, stem sides and hole, wire tips; applying eva pads on pcb to support wires)

it's really important to make sure installation of stabs is done properly. i managed to make tx stabs tick in few occasions. the sound was gone after reinstallation.

edit: in reality, i usually use switches from cherry, gateron, kailh, jwk, sp-star, and tecsee. the overall qualities of switches from these brands are relatively proven. (all of them have 'black histories' in the past, but got improved over time)

i hope later i will have time for younger brands like haimu, ktt, ttc, etc.

This post has been edited by horns: May 8 2023, 02:14 PM

Thanks. Just fielding opinions for a build far in the future. Still happy with my Fold as daily driver. I want more of the same but they have discontinued it.

Keebio have promised to open source the Fold PCB, so I'll be looking at that when they release it. Maybe do some minor changes like changing the right space bar from 2.75U+1.25U to 2U+1U+1U.

If I can move my numpad from the red box to the green box I'd be so happy.


This post has been edited by niakulah: May 8 2023, 02:38 PM

sweet.

maybe i should look for pcb files that suit my needs too. i'm becoming less optimistic that generic solderable pcbs will still have their places in the market in the future. from various hints and signs, in order for me to continue my project, one day i will need to find ways to make own pcbs.

this is also a known problem when one is too detached from standard layouts.

Also when your preferred layout is too vanilla aka full size 100%. As I found out when trying to make a custom full size. 60-65% is still the most catered to form factor.

true. that's how it is in the commercial world. this was also why previously i thought ikbc mf108 was a good deal lol

I'm new to this Keyboard Modding
If I want to get a Keyboard Kit with 75% keys and wireless, what is the budget choice and also the preferred choice for you all?
Also, I'm thinking of getting one with a Knob as well? But my speaker already comes with a knob. Not sure if the extra knob defeats the purpose!

Poison me a little with your knowledge, Mastah!!

Actually you would need to know the "rough" budget that you got to work with. There are many choices currently for a 75%.
I'm currently using the Akko PC75B Plus which I got for ~RM4xx, I forgot the actual number. It was a completely full keyboard with all the switches and keycaps assembled.
There was the Keychron 75% series which is more expensive If I remember.

Now there is the popular Monsgeek M1 barebone kit around RM400.

This post has been edited by zzzz52: May 8 2023, 08:40 PM

You just missed the Zoom75 at 900ish.
Good available starting point would be the Monsgeek M1.
Or wait for the next QK75 or Zoom75.
Cause the next step up will be 1k+ which would be fine if it suits your budget.
Yes the knob is useless for volume. If the board has QMK (software support), I guess you can config the knob for horizontal scrolling, scrubbing for video editing or something more useful.

anybody know about the typ60 by axiom studios?

RM2K.... you buying one?

This post has been edited by zzzz52: May 8 2023, 11:07 PM

vertex v one is good stuff.



surprisingly, whatever shits that happened to jwk/jwick linear are not present, e.g., there is no apparent spring/leaf pings. know that the current batch is the unlubed variant.

just grabbed another 2x 110 units, and wait for the lubed variant

I manage to install the shenpo cherry profile keycaps onto my PC75B.
Comparing to the OEM profile clone keycaps, initial impression are the sound are deeper which is what I was looking for.
For me it was a good buy. The keycap thickness are comparatively thicker vs the clone keycaps and the ASA profile Akko original keycaps.
For RM90, it is affordable to me and meets my initial requirement.


This post has been edited by zzzz52: Jun 7 2023, 12:27 PM

pbt usually makes relatively deeper sound compared to abs.

feel wise, thicker pbt will provide better feels in general, compared to thinner ones. however, beside wall thickness, it also depends on combinations of a build, key cap profile, material (e.g., abs, pbt, pom, ceramic; density of material used), and own preferences. i use thinner caps for certain builds because i think those boards give better typing experience with them.

you should explore options progressively, so that you get familiar with other qualities of keycaps, beside wall thickness.

but is it PBT that not leaving any fingerprint / oily surface compared to ABS material

Yes PBT doesn't get oily as fast as ABS.

I wonder thought why some still opt for ABS keycaps? Seem like most would want PBT but there are still some pretty pricey ABS out there.

GMK are still using ABS, right?

Indeed but well maybe because of manufacturing difficulty or price

no, if you had oily fingers, pbt will get oily also. it's just that it takes relatively longer to get to that stage for pbt keycaps, compared to abs. you can prolong the time needed by washing your keycaps from time to time. it's also a good thing to do for sanitary purposes.

however, the truth is, when you use abs sets from jtk, domikey and gmk, you will start to ignore this.

back then, stock keycaps for most prebuilts were thin abs keycaps, with printing technologies that were not meant to last. manufacturers didn't realize mkbs could last for a long time. eventually oily surfaces were developed, paints on caps were worn off, and legends were gone. the same happened to gaming boards, e.g., corsair. they have become ugly over time. that's how this meme about abs keycaps started i believe.

few noticed this, and started to provide better stock options, e.g., varmilo (dye-sub pbt), and ikbc (double-shot pbt, shine-through). some also offerred side printed keycaps (e.g., filco ninja). the rest just didn't care, e.g., corsair, their thick double-shot pbt only arrived after few years of community efforts. when they were released, we already moved on for quite some time lol