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post Sep 15 2022, 11:12 PM, updated 4y ago

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post Sep 15 2022, 11:13 PM

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niakulah
post Sep 16 2022, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Aug 21 2022, 03:54 PM)
I also accidentally discovered an encoder hack in the Keyboard Atelier discord.
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Beside the encoder is the detent ring. It has the gears that gives the encoder its errrrr.. detents. You just peel back the 4 tabs holding down the green plastic to the encoder body, peel off the green plastic (2 layers). Then you can remove the detent ring. There was also a green "cap" that keeps the detent ring in place and covers the bottom of the shaft. I put that back in before reassembling.

The experience is like going from a medium heavy tactile to a super light linear. It might be annoying to use with a cheap and light aluminium knob. But it should be a reversible mod so I'll give it a try first.
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F me. Soldered the encoder in and it didn't work at all, even the press button.

Pandai2 only. I actually removed the encoder part and not the detent ring.

Here, found a video so hopefully anyone reading this, watch it first before doing and don't be bodoh like me ya.

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post Sep 16 2022, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 16 2022, 04:14 PM)
F me. Soldered the encoder in and it didn't work at all, even the press button.

Pandai2 only. I actually removed the encoder part and not the detent ring.

Here, found a video so hopefully anyone reading this, watch it first before doing and don't be bodoh like me ya.
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there is no 'bodoh' in experimentations. we all do dumb things at times, and we need to do this to learn more haha
niakulah
post Sep 17 2022, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 16 2022, 07:37 PM)
there is no 'bodoh' in experimentations. we all do dumb things at times, and we need to do this to learn more haha
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Thanks for the kind words. I successfully removed the ring and reassembled the encoder with the part I removed before. Soldered and confirmed working.

Another thing I got wrong is this mod is NOT reversible. Getting the ring out practically destroys it. You have a better chance of fixing a bent switch leaf than fixing the ring after removal.
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post Sep 17 2022, 09:35 AM

uh weeee !!!!
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BTW any of you are going to the keebs gathering on 1st Oct at GMBB?
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post Sep 17 2022, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Sep 17 2022, 09:35 AM)
BTW any of you are going to the keebs gathering on 1st Oct at GMBB?
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found out too late.. i think free passes already gone
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post Sep 17 2022, 04:29 PM

uh weeee !!!!
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found out too late.. i think free passes already gone
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I wanted to get the pay tic but I missed that .. and had to settled with the free one .. but then the organizer which I think no experience with event maybe overbooked need the free pass users to book again sweat.gif

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post Sep 17 2022, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Sep 17 2022, 04:29 PM)
I wanted to get the pay tic but I missed that .. and had to settled with the free one .. but then the organizer which I think no experience with event maybe overbooked need the free pass users to book again sweat.gif
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from my 'light reading' is they want to control the crowd, hence segregrate to blocks of visitors at a time

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post Sep 17 2022, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 17 2022, 09:01 AM)
Thanks for the kind words. I successfully removed the ring and reassembled the encoder with the part I removed before. Soldered and confirmed working.

Another thing I got wrong is this mod is NOT reversible. Getting the ring out practically destroys it. You have a better chance of fixing a bent switch leaf than fixing the ring after removal.
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thanks for the encoder mod and related tips.

most people are using it as is. it's like that a friend from cn told me before, most people in cn actually don't bother about knobs, and have limited ideas on how to use them.

QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Sep 17 2022, 09:35 AM)
BTW any of you are going to the keebs gathering on 1st Oct at GMBB?
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no. you should if you're looking forward to experience the vast options of mkbs. (as usual, always bring along sanitizer)


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post Sep 17 2022, 07:54 PM

uh weeee !!!!
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from my 'light reading' is they want to control the crowd, hence segregrate to blocks of visitors at a time
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hence i say they dont have experience ... but than again see what gonna be there
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post Sep 18 2022, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 17 2022, 06:20 PM)
most people are using it as is.
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This is the part I cannot brain.

We agonize about what kind of switch to use, what spring weight, what lube, what lube method, film or no, what film etc etc.

Rotary encoder? Everyone use this. Ok la I use also. doh.gif
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post Sep 18 2022, 12:53 PM

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Hi sifus, anyone know what could caused this issue? It started last week, then back to normal for a while, and now back to this again....
Didn't notice any big issue on the soldering joint... Keyboard is ikbc cd108...

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post Sep 18 2022, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 18 2022, 09:41 AM)
This is the part I cannot brain.

We agonize about what kind of switch to use, what spring weight, what lube, what lube method, film or no, what film etc etc.

Rotary encoder? Everyone use this. Ok la I use also. doh.gif
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haha this hobby is mainly driven by hype. it's just one of the typical consumer behaviors.

QUOTE(cwk0713 @ Sep 18 2022, 12:53 PM)
Hi sifus, anyone know what could caused this issue? It started last week, then back to normal for a while, and now back to this again....
Didn't notice any big issue on the soldering joint... Keyboard is ikbc cd108...

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one of the possible causes based on the symptom is like having bad diodes. if that's the case, replacement of the bad diode will resolve the problem.

however, there are also other causes. it needs physical inspections with tools like multimeter.

if the board still have warranty, make use of it.
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post Sep 18 2022, 10:48 PM

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No soldering this weekend sad.gif Struggled to fix 2 stabs stubbornly ticking when tapping the keycap at a certain angle. Fixed 1 by changing the holee mode from the Teflon strip that came with the stabs to cloth tape, and by changing the wire. Although the wire looked absolutely fine and straight. Sigh...

And screwed up my PE foam layer fixing the stabs. Need to do another piece for each side.

Looking pretty. Assembled but only rotary encoder has been soldered in.
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post Sep 18 2022, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 18 2022, 10:48 PM)
No soldering this weekend sad.gif Struggled to fix 2 stabs stubbornly ticking when tapping the keycap at a certain angle. Fixed 1 by changing the holee mode from the Teflon strip that came with the stabs to cloth tape, and by changing the wire. Although the wire looked absolutely fine and straight. Sigh...

And screwed up my PE foam layer fixing the stabs. Need to do another piece for each side.

Looking pretty. Assembled but only rotary encoder has been soldered in.
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for those tiny ticking noises, it's better to check if the stabilizer housings are sitting flush. sometimes this is the cause of the noise also, especially at the areas that secure wires.

in my case, most of my recent builds are using plate-mount stabilizers from fl-cmmk, since i still have plates with plate-mount stabilizer support. so far, they are good enough with minimal tuning.
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post Sep 19 2022, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 18 2022, 11:16 PM)
for those tiny ticking noises, it's better to check if the stabilizer housings are sitting flush. sometimes this is the cause of the noise also, especially at the areas that secure wires.

in my case, most of my recent builds are using plate-mount stabilizers from fl-cmmk, since i still have plates with plate-mount stabilizer support. so far, they are good enough with minimal tuning.
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Thanks. I'm pretty sure they're flush but I'll double triple check that. Might be related but they both happen to be at the edge of the PCB so the screw holes are not full holes. Maybe I need to do something extra to secure them better.

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post Sep 19 2022, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Sep 15 2022, 05:38 PM)
Noo.......
Rabbit hole
Will stick with xda/dsa
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KAM I poison you some more

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114644.0;all

GB starting next month. I might be getting the spacebar kit myself for the lovely navy 1U spacebars that I can put in my macro column.
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post Sep 19 2022, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Sep 19 2022, 08:31 AM)
Thanks. I'm pretty sure they're flush but I'll double triple check that. Might be related but they both happen to be at the edge of the PCB so the screw holes are not full holes. Maybe I need to do something extra to secure them better.

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i use nylon washers, and pan-washer head screws mainly.
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post Sep 19 2022, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Sep 19 2022, 09:55 AM)
i use nylon washers, and pan-washer head screws mainly.
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Had to google what that meant. C3 stabs come with normal pan head screws and some non-conductive washers of unknown material.

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