guys, anyone know if its possible to reupload my previous keyboard layout generator / tmk keymap generator file? dont see the option in both site. Been like almost 10 years since i touch my keyboard, and need to reprogram it.

Else kena spend time again re-learn everything.

for keyboard layout editor, i think you can open up the file, copy the contents and paste them into the raw data tab.

Maybe boba u4t? Smooth and strong tactile.

BUT BUT BUT, boba u4t or boba u4 silent will be too expensive for me.
local seller sell rm4 and above.

I'm considering the emogogo grey tactile.
It feels nice and the sound is on the deeper side, with a very slight ping.
Just the pricing is RM3.7/pcs.

for this, i might counter asking you try azure dragon v2.
from what i learn it should be smooth tactile feeling like oilking but in tactile.

does anyone know when Monsgeek M3 (int) is available locally?

should be available by now.
but not sure is china or int version. (any diff?)

yeah int version uses qmk/via, china version has their own software

I have pre-ordered it through shopee from Monsgeek. I just ask and they reply me in the chat that it should arrive in Malaysia in another 2 days.
I think I can receive mine next week.

oh. TIL.
then my M1 is china version then. no wonder it cant connect into QMK/VIA app

Wah so expensive. Last time 2 something only. Din know you were interested. I coulda tossed in a u4s.

Maybe look at geon or zaku switches.

This post has been edited by krayden: May 12 2023, 09:30 PM

Where to get those Geon? If purchase from the website, the shipping fee is higher than buying the switches (110pcs). lol

The 3 switches below from the left -> Azure Dragon V2, Emogogo tactile, oil king

In comparison on my board:
The Azure is more of a higher pitch and clackier sound vs the emogogo.
But that oil king is growing on me... lol

Actually another switch I like is the lubed and filmed MMD pandas.

This post has been edited by zzzz52: May 13 2023, 09:48 AM

oh lol
not familiar with geon or zaku name. any info for it?

hmm..if azure dragon higher pitch might be not suit me. i quite like the oil king deeper sound.
also the emogogo tactile you mention are emogogo grey right? thats like similar pricing with boba u4t already?


for my MMD holy panda, i think problem on not lubed and no firmed.
where i probably no skill and wont do at all.

lol. The hardest part of lubing is the time consumed... U need hours to do it.
But lubing and filming does a big difference some switches that I have used.
The MMD is one, the jelly purples are another. Even the Outemu brown improves noticeably for me as well.

That Azure Dragon is significantly different vs the oil king. If you like that deeper sound of the oil king, then better don't get the Azure Dragon.
I'm thinking probably my only choice is to get those MMD and film and lube it. It seems to be the most cost effective for me. lolx.

MMD panda definitely cost effective. (time wise i dont know lol )
not really a complain, as MMD panda only cost like 60~80cents each(stock), cant be serious compare it to some RM1~3 switches.

TBH, my M1 graywoodv3 is lubed, probably firmed by my friend (he sell me Rm1 each). and compare it to oilking or stock graywoodv3.
stock oilking > 70% lubed graywoodv3 > 50% stock graywoodv3

lubed graywood can reach 60~70% of oil king feel, stock graywood maybe half of the oilking feel. (my2cents)
if not going for almost perfect swtich, budget switch definitely worth to own, especially the price from stock to fine lubed almost x2, if compare it to stock oilking, that will be x4 and yet mention pricing of fine lubed oilking.....


just now switched back the 75% number row to graywood stock ,see how the oil king+MMD panda vs oilking+graywood feel.

this is nice. i'm glad that you have started to get your hands dirty, observed, and found out differences by first-hand experience. you should know by now, the meaning of 'you get what you pay for', but there is still a chance to get cheap ones as base, and turn them into relatively better ones.

these days, almost all brands have mainstream/budget series, and highend/custom series. it's better to try them out first, before shaping your own opinions on their qualities.

yes it takes time to do switch tuning. however the outcomes are satisfying, so it's worth the time and efforts imo. it's true that whether to tune a switch fully, partially, or not at all, is based on your own decisions entirely.

you might wanna adjust the switch tuning/lubing work flows accordingly, e.g., there is no need to do everything in one go. you can always do things by batch.

I agree with it. We go with items that fits with our budget. We can start small and get more feel and experience.
I take whatever time I can spare to do small small experiments and read stuff here and other places.
I have done a few more lubing + filming by doing 1pc and compare the "improvement" vs the stock



The upper row 2 switches from the left:

1. Azure Dragon - Slight factory lube.
After lubing, slight reduction in the pitch, and the clacky sound is significantly reduced. Definitely noticeable difference before vs after.
I would say this switch is the loudest on my board even after lube and filmed.

2. KTT Matcha - slight factory lube
No significant difference before vs after. They have a slight clack to it

The 2nd Row from the left

1. Akko CS Ocean blue
After lubing, almost eliminate the clacky sound. It is like having a tighter feel

2. MMD Green Apple
After lubing, almost eliminate the clacky sound. It is like having a tighter feel

3. MMD Holy Panda
both switches are already lube. no comparison. lol

4. Emogogo grey
single switch serves as comparison to what I like.

5. Oil Kings
both stock just for comparison as well. I also like this switch

6. Tecsee Sapphire
After lubing, almost eliminate the clacky sound. I like this switch as well after lubing it, but the tactile bump is less noticeable among the switches.

This is just something I'm playing with and I'm not sure how to describe the switches, just my noob comments.

Previously I have gotten my hands dirty per se, by lubing all those outemu browns in my previously full keyboard. It was quite an experience and gotten the "flow" how to do it.

But I 100% agree that there is no replacement of just getting the switches and try it out and modify accordingly to see how to feels.
And lubing although is time consuming, it does make a noticeable difference to the typing feel and sound. That is why I lubed and film all those Akko Jelly purples on my current board. It is just preferable for me
My current preference is to use slightly more lube that normally is recommended from what I watch and read.
I always just do like 5 - 10 switches per batch.

In your previous comment about "almost all brands have mainstream/budget series, and highend/custom series" could you give some direction on the some of brands and where to get current information about their series they are offering. I understand some are manufacturer like JWICK, Akko, KTT, Haimu, Gateron, Outemu, Cherry etc. And some are brands that gets those manufacturers to make it for them.

And for the highend/custom series, what are some of them? Is it something like the Gazzew U4T?

This post has been edited by zzzz52: Jun 3 2023, 09:49 PM

here is one example, gateron.

1. budget series (ks series);
2. gpro series;
3. gpro 3.0 series;
4. cap series;
5. highend/custom series - tealios v2, oil king, cj, ink v2, north pole 2.0, etc.

edit: the above are mainstream key switches offerred by gateron at their official taobao store. gateron also acts as oem for gb-only/limited custom switches, like gateron x (r1, r2).

right, gazzew's custom key switches is produced by outemu.

first-hand experience is always essential. that's what i always stress on, experience and experiment yourself, for all the good reasons.


This post has been edited by horns: May 13 2023, 11:46 PM