my bad.
technically only 2 'conductive pin' for 3pin and 5 pin switch. (this literally take me a while to figure out that day)
the other 'pin' is plastic pin for positioning.

correct. just pick the proper basics up along the way.

a lot of things are simple in this hobby. it's just that there were too many misleading hypes and information that caused these simple things to become complex.

truths will be revealed when you know enough basics.

learned quite a lot, even that day yet buy the keyboard.

i think i mentioned before i buy new keyboard actually due to the tecware keyboard is 3pin.
so most of the chinese branded 5 pin switch cant fit (unless i physically remove the 2 plastic pin)



now planning get fullsize/98% for office, planning for monsgeek M2, the thock feeling on M1 really impressed me

This post has been edited by josh5671: Feb 21 2023, 12:49 PM

right, for hotswap boards, it's better to get those with pcbs that support 5-pin switches. in terms of switch sockets, choose kailh or gateron, because replacement sockets are already available.

you always have the option to cut the side pins off to fit. it's actually part of basic switch modifications, if you must do so.

i prefer 5-pin mainly, so i just pick boards/kits with the pcbs that support 5-pin switches.

in short, after you know more about parts that you wanna put into a mechanical keyboard, you will have a list of items to pick and get, and leave others alone when they don't meet your needs. the same list can also be used to choose prebuilts/custom kits.

in terms of switch lube, krytox gpl is still unmatched for its wide range of viscosity, the ability to mix relatively well with any member of the same series, and availability. as for the shelf life, it depends on viscosity imo (thinner ones evaporate relatively faster)

gpl stands for general-purpose lubricants. usually we use 10x/20x series, i.e., from 100 to 107 for oil; 200 to 207 for grease. note that not all are food grade.

there are other gpl series, e.g., 21x, 22x, etc. that might not be suitable for use on plastic housings.

there are plenty of alternatives of pfpe/ptfe oil/grease like krytox gpl. they just don't have the above advantages. you can still use them as is, if you want. (read the specifications first to make sure that it's safe to use)

I am currently a Ducky DK9008 Shine 2 user (I think purchased around 2013~2014)... Current looking for a new tenkeyless mechanical keyboard, any recommendations?

Wireless would be nice to keep the desk clean.

How is Keychron? And the Gateron G Pro vs Cherry MX?

This post has been edited by celciuz: Feb 27 2023, 08:54 AM

why so .. complicated

er i wrote those down to remind people we always have choices; a lot of choices actually. they affect switch feel and sound differently.

.. but yeah you can simplify it to just 'use whatever you like'. it's up to you

OnePlus Malaysia is bringing in the mechanical Keyboard 81 Pro in Q2 2023

https://soyacincau.com/2023/02/27/oneplus-m...pro-in-q2-2023/





https://www.oneplus.com/my/product/oneplus-...keyboard-81-pro

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Feb 28 2023, 10:20 AM

I make this comment before clicking in.
I already 'see' fancy pricing from oneplus.

I like the design of the height adjusting stand only.

it will be fancy ....
there is still no price also for Q1 Pro where Oneplus borrow the tech?

Kickstarter for it was around USD174 for the barebones kit.
On keychron website, it’s around that pricing too.

Most likely OP keyboard might be a bit cheap or not

My order for the M2 monsgeek kit just arrived.
Some issues with the screw in stabilizers though.
The shift and enter key are a bit "sticky"
Once press down it doesn't come up...
This only occur when the keycaps are installed all the way down.


Not sure if I overlube it... or it's a stabilizer issue.

Changing stablizers seems like a major pain in the butt though.
Need to remove keycaps, switches, and lots of screws..

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Mar 1 2023, 11:29 PM

patience is key when it comes to mkb tuning. it needs a bit of planning too. you should do it during weekends. tear everything down first, then do it at your own pace.

for a typical build process, hotswap or not, i normally start with stabilizer tuning, install them on pcb (for screw-in stabs; make sure they sit flush), put on switches and key caps then spam to see the stabs behave correctly.

'sticky' stabilizers usually mean bad installation of stabilizers. overlubing doesn't cause that.

yes, bad screw-in stabs take time to fix. that's why we always make sure they work properly first before we assemble the rest.

Thanks for the advice.
Looks like I got work cut out this weekend then.

My previous boards are all plate mounted and I never really had this problem. Well it’s always nice to try something new… and the solving process.

pcb-mount stabilizers don't have such an issue too.

check if:
1. wire tips are in the right hole of stabilizer sliders;
2. wires are secured properly;
3. stabilizer sliders are installed at the right directions;
4. screws are not overtightened.

or simply, just take the stabilizers apart and redo installation.

normally this kind of issues are localized. they are related to parts involved only. there are other possibilities:
1. switches with weak springs; or
2. key caps, e.g., key cap walls being too thick, or warped.

but these are relatively less likely to happen.

Thanks for the tips.
I tried swapping the switches and keycaps. Same issue.
There is a layer of EVA dampener between the pcb board and switch. It’s also a whole piece, rather than individual pieces for each slot. So the stabilizers are in contact with those. not sure if that might be causing it too.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Mar 2 2023, 09:53 AM

i put pre-cut ixpe/poron/eva sheets between switches and pcb also.

normally they don't affect stabs, unless they are in the way due to bad installs, causing stabs to not sitting flush on pcb.

edit: foams are optional mods. they produce some good effects, but they might also make every board to feel and sound the same. it's a bonus that they are included, but this doesn't mean you must use them.

This post has been edited by horns: Mar 2 2023, 10:51 AM