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victorian
post Oct 5 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(davidsheng @ Oct 5 2013, 12:59 PM)
It's pretty obvious you both did not read the conversation properly. The part where he says "can COD now" establishes the time, and the part where he says "ok deal, midvalley where" is definitely a verbal agreement. The negotiation process is over.

As I stated in an earlier post, I don't think I have to be waiting at the COD location for this to constitute a FFK case.

Anyway, each person is entitled to his/her own set of criteria to define what FFK is. For me, seeing how you deem his behaviour acceptable (especially Mr. Noobding) is a reflection on your own trading etiquette. Might fall asleep? What nonsense. Pfffftt  rolleyes.gif
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I can see that he stopped after asking where to cod. Unless he is online, there is no ffk issue here

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post Oct 5 2013, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Oct 5 2013, 01:29 PM)
I can see that he stopped after asking where to cod. Unless he is online, there is no ffk issue here
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My final PM to him was at 3:12am.

His last active timestamp was past that.

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post Oct 5 2013, 05:10 PM

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This guy OderLy, he promised that he'll sell the Xperia Z Ultra to me today at 1pm in Berjaya TS. Everything seemed fine the day before.

Today, at 1pm, I called him for a few times but he didn't pick up. At 1.20pm, I called him again and finally he picked up. He said he was in Bandar Tasik Selatan and asked me to wait for another 20 minutes. So I waited and waited till 3pm, no calls, no SMSes, nothing.

Eventually I called him again. For more than 10 times, it went to voicemail. I tried to WhatsApp him. To my surprise, that guy deleted his WhatsApp account some more, so there's no way I can actually contact him.

This guy, if he doesn't wanna sell or what, at least tell people, don't simply promise people. 1st time got ffk after so many successful deals.


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post Oct 7 2013, 11:50 PM

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This guy , NickyNg is really a waste of time . Since I sold him my S4 Zoom before , thought give him a priority since he wanted my unit again but then , turn out to be just another ffk . Here is the conversation . Sorry , formatted my phone so have to retrieve the earlier messages from my email . Asked him again if he really wants it , he confirmed .

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Yet tried contacting him again on Sat but the story is different . Now wants chinese in a Vega phone and finally told him will root for him + install chinese for his whatsapp or sms , he sounded like try to cheat him . Then start to nego the price since he dont want root . After that no reply . Finally decided to save me the trouble of going down to Ampang , offered him 1700 also no reply till now yet still around in LYN . My fault for trusting him but then again , be a bit responsible in dealing la . If dont want , no harm saying dont wan or if wanna nego the price , dont give grandmother's stories after agreeing on the price .

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post Oct 13 2013, 01:56 PM

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Hello

Since I'm a newbie here, I want to ask something

There's one guy who interested in my monitor that I'm selling, he message me and offer me his price, so I accepted it then ask me to reserve the monitor for him

So I send him the message to know if he want to proceed but got no reply from him. Actually, he also message me before to buy my keyboard, I also accepted his offer but then, he went completely silent.

Basically, this guy already sent me offer twice but then went silent sweat.gif sweat.gif


My problem is why do you keep send me the offer, then keep silent about it shocking.gif shocking.gif

Is this normal???

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post Oct 13 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(muha90 @ Oct 13 2013, 01:56 PM)
Hello

Since I'm a newbie here, I want to ask something

There's one guy who interested in my monitor that I'm selling, he message me and offer me his price, so I accepted it then ask me to reserve the monitor for him

So I send him the message to know if he want to proceed but got no reply from him. Actually, he also message me before to buy my keyboard, I also accepted his offer but then, he went completely silent.

Basically, this guy already sent me offer twice but then went silent  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
My problem is why do you keep send me the offer, then keep silent about it  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

Is this normal???
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He has the right to offer.

Bottomline is, first come first serve. If want to reserve also, must have a fixed period, not forever like 3 days or 1 day. It is up to you.

It is not up to us to teach this kind of people what to do. Ask him WHEN he want to come n get it. Serious buyer should not have issue or answering those.
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post Oct 13 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 13 2013, 02:01 PM)
He has the right to offer.

Bottomline is, first come first serve. If want to reserve also, must have a fixed period, not forever like 3 days or 1 day. It is up to you.

It is not up to us to teach this kind of people what to do. Ask him WHEN he want to come n get it. Serious buyer should not have issue or answering those.
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Oh, well at least just tell if you can't afford to buy my stuff. BTW I already put him in my blacklist, basically if he send me another message for my another item, I'll just ignore it tongue.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(muha90 @ Oct 13 2013, 03:48 PM)
Oh, well at least just tell if you can't afford to buy my stuff. BTW I already put him in my blacklist, basically if he send me another message for my another item, I'll just ignore it  tongue.gif
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Many people can afford what they want to buy, but deliberate want to BUY CHEAP.

For me, as long as mutual agreement and no LAST MINUTE FFK, i am fine with those fellows who wish to ask, but i have cut back entertaining some desktop inquiries as it is wasting time to spend 30 minutes to check price, quote and plan only to be found out that at the end, people just choose the cheapest price(some of them difference by RM50 also cannot tolerate), even if they are building a RM5000 desktop.
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post Oct 17 2013, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(wanttobuylaptop @ Jun 12 2013, 10:16 PM)
My apologize, i realized it is rude and i'm sorry for it.
Sent you an PM, kindly respond.
You dont seem to reply email.

out of nine emails, only 3 of which you reply.
first two are prompt.
however, after bank in for you you did only one reply our of 4.
Bank in the night of 10 jun, today you reply tracking number,
and it is not found in poslaju system, both internet and call center.

Appreciate you wasted 30 minutes, i wasted 2 days waiting no reply.
Moderator would be bring in if is still not hear from you. Thanks.
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This ^ is what i am facing now buying from Davis, after few emails regrading payment and inquiries is prompt, after payment follow up is slow and no reply, even attach the receipt of bank in details for the item via email i have purchase( casio g shock Aw590-1A) , did not provide tracking number and etc information, pls respond and follow up on ur customer order especially whn payment has already been done .i even call to show concern on my purchase the 2nd day, and the respond was " owh that ? send out within 1-2 days lor" , by paying the item i have purchase and hear ntg from seller is uncalled for i dun enjoy sending loads of emails and emails, i do understand u guys are bz doin business but for customer point of view, which have already done payment WITHIN the day of inquiry of the product and have done PAYMENT WITHIN the SAME day. should i at least get and acknowledge for the sales follow up ? despite all the good review from lelong i beg the differ.i hope there is some changes kindly do take note seller( Davis ).

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post Oct 18 2013, 01:59 AM

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A mod asked me to read this message.
Before you write this message, you should read your e-mail first.
If you are not reading e-mail, which means you missed out our e-mails intermittently.

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From: sales/enquiry [mailto:sales@davis.my]
Sent: Thursday, 17 October, 2013 8:44 PM
To: 'Lim Timothy'
Subject: RE: 2013 10 15 Casio AW-590-1A


Resend again for 2nd time.

There is nothing wrong with our communication since 15th. Two e-mails from you, two e-mails from me + just now resend total 3.

We have our own replying pace, will not reply instantly as we have our works to do.

Thank you.

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lim@1203
post Oct 18 2013, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Oct 18 2013, 02:59 AM)
lim@1203
A mod asked me to read this message.
Before you write this message, you should read your e-mail first.
If you are not reading e-mail, which means you missed out our e-mails intermittently.
Resend again for 2nd time.

There is nothing wrong with our communication since 15th. Two e-mails from you, two e-mails from me + just now resend total 3.

We have our own replying pace, will not reply instantly as we have our works to do.

Thank you.
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tracking number receive, as i said i do understand u ppl have ur works and stuff to do am not trying to be inconsiderate, to cut it short i am glad i got my tracking number at 2am middle of the night send by you. cheers and now i have a better understanding how it works .now that the air has been clear i hope there will not be any misunderstanding nymore. in fact i will still buy stuff from u in the future, hope we jus drop it and move on since i have a clear picture now. cheers mate
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post Oct 21 2013, 01:32 AM

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hi all,

please beware of this seller. i PM him on saturday and he reply me on sunday afternoon. we have negotiation thru sms and agreed a price for the iPhone 5 which he said claim new set from maxis.

we suppose to dealing on just now 10.30pm at setapak, genting klang KFC.

before i go, i sms to him say that i on my way. and he did reply and ask me to sms him when reach.

when i reached there, i sms him n no reply. after that i try to call him many times but he no answer.

from 10.45pm i waited at there until 12am and keep on calling him but no answer. SMS no reply.


if he really sell the unit to others with higher price, please do let me know. he didnt even sms mention that what is going on. until when i come back, i saw his treat was close on 11.09pm.

i proof the sms i sent and PLEASE, next time beware on this SELLER. i come from Puchong and reached GENTING KLANG then empty hand back Puchong. this is such a irresponsible seller and show how irresponsible he is.

this is his link : https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2995121&hl=

Moderator, please give warning to this person so that it wont happen to others LYN member.

Member Name : Willhoo
telephone No : 0175590053
Email : willhoo.law@hotmail.com



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i dont mind he not selling the set to me but please do inform the buyer if you had sell the unit to others. i am coming from far away to the destination and end up nothing.. this make me more angry..[cool.gif

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post Oct 21 2013, 02:28 AM

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Lucky I never travel and ask for confirmation first.
He no respond ever since, even online.
I did message him be responsible, this kind of people sure got problem typing.
The first time offer me low baller price already should ignore.
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post Oct 31 2013, 05:31 PM

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got ffked by @dytium just now.. sad.gif
i wanted to buy his/her GOW Ascension and he agreed with my price..
then ask me to go Alamanda tonight which i agreed and decide to apply special leave since my office hour till 9pm daily..
then just now msg me said cancel since someone offered him higher price..
i just wasted my 2 hours special leave for nothing.. sad.gif sad.gif
will stop trusting online trader that ask me to do this and that..
really2 waste my special leave.. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
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post Nov 10 2013, 01:09 PM

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Seller LYN's ID : Cova78

Item being sold/bought: LG Nexus 4

Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry64441251

Date of transaction: 08 Nov 2013

Details of the complaint : Offer me at Price RM750 COD at USJ 2 6pm (08/11/2013) but last last give a alasan said 'Meeting Lewat" then 2nd day try to mssg he again but reply me said 'SOLD ALREADY' and said i give a lower offer...


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post Nov 10 2013, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(global_2202 @ Nov 10 2013, 01:09 PM)
Seller LYN's ID : Cova78

Item being sold/bought: LG Nexus 4

Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry64441251

Date of transaction: 08 Nov 2013

Details of the complaint : Offer me at Price RM750 COD at USJ 2 6pm (08/11/2013) but last last give a alasan said 'Meeting Lewat" then 2nd day try to mssg he again but reply me said 'SOLD ALREADY' and said i give a lower offer...
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Thanks bro for making such a fuss about small things...but to be clear...no money changed hands yet...i ask to COD at Petronas USJ 2 but u ask me to go COD at mydin which is not in USJ 2...the other guy is supposed to be ur friend (not u urself)...so things got little bit weird...i'm little bit concern...bye2...
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post Nov 11 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(cova78 @ Nov 10 2013, 01:30 PM)
Thanks bro for making such a fuss about small things...but to be clear...no money changed hands yet...i ask to COD at Petronas USJ 2 but u ask me to go COD at mydin which is not in USJ 2...the other guy is supposed to be ur friend (not u urself)...so things got little bit weird...i'm little bit concern...bye2...
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thats why he posted this in FFK thread not dispute thread
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post Nov 11 2013, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(pallmall @ Nov 11 2013, 03:26 PM)
thats why he posted this in FFK thread not dispute thread
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QUOTE(cova78 @ Nov 10 2013, 01:30 PM)
Thanks bro for making such a fuss about small things...but to be clear...no money changed hands yet...i ask to COD at Petronas USJ 2 but u ask me to go COD at mydin which is not in USJ 2...the other guy is supposed to be ur friend (not u urself)...so things got little bit weird...i'm little bit concern...bye2...
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now i can see who is FFK~
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post Nov 27 2013, 09:27 PM

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Forumer you are complaining against: 0169072385 Johnny

Item intended to be sold : Nexus 4 Accessories

Original thread link: As per WhatsApp

Date of transaction: 23rd November 2013

Breaking Updates after i share this link to buyer : [27th November 2013]

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Details of the complaint :

Spitted Into 2 Deals. This guy is actually a returning buyer. blacklist as on 2nd deal, but as to show transparency, i'll put full conversation here smile.gif

Second Deal
- 13th November, buyer inquiry again and ask for a Nexus 4 Case this time, which previous 1st deal was a HTC case.
- Request additional photos which real photos already on thread and ask for a discount nego price (case price rm25)
- Request to meet at Klang (40km+ Away). Later after he only found that he deal with me before.
- Deal was later to be schedule on 23th November [Saturday]
- On 21st November [Thursday], Buyer Request time to Deal @ 3pm on Saturday and I agree with the time.
- On Saturday, as usual I whatsapp buyer for a reminder time on 9.15am
- Buyer confirmed too and request me to look for USB printing service for him at Kepong for him. [errr....LOL]
- On 11.28am, Buyer reply again time got changes and will update me again, might be around 4pm.
- With Immidiate effect, i whatsapp-ed him for a confirmation time as earlier schedule had been planned earlier.
- No replies from buyer, Called and Inquiry for the exact time.
- On 1pm, buyer replied latest new confirmation time to meet @ 4pm.
- I'm okay with the 2nd time changes although already ajak friends on tea session as considering customer priority on my top practice.
- Well, things doesn't goes well, on 3.05pm, buyer request for ANOTHER changes again asking to meet at another location. Worst still as change location this time at Batu Caves, u guys do the calculation, initial COD point was near Bandar Sri Damansara.
- 6 minutes later I rejected as Initial meeting time was changed twice and now again for another change? tolerance level got jacked up
- 3.36pm buyer replied, doing tinting there, ask me don't go COD location 1st and wait for his update [LOL?]
- He replied with "I customer ma, so now i got something on. Hehe"
- OKAY, TOLERANCE LEVEL GOT PROVOKED ! i request to cancel deal
- Buyer reply "my car last minit need settle, so doing now, Is it like that u do business?"
- On 27th November, Buyer replied again "By the way, i got my nexus 4 case xxxxxxx , dont forget u treat ur customers like shit, and you not the only seller out there, tata haha"

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First Deal
- First deal was counted successful after tonnes of inquiries from buyer [More than 20 page on Whatsapp]
- After more than 15 minutes of Nego-ing with one unit case purchase on the spot when cod (whereby price had been already agreed before COD), Deal was counted successful.
- 1 week later, buyer inquiry for a replacement on the FREE screen protector included with the case. doh.gif
- After explanation, the fussy 1st deal was successful without any big feelings.

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Conclusion / Moral Of The Story
- Seller = Human too
- We Value You As Customer, You Treat Seller's Time As Shit ?
- Money can't buy Seller's Dignity, Please do not treat Seller like a Dog


Thanks for reading guys, u guys be the judge of this smile.gif

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