Forumer Name : victorian
Phone Number : 019-644 4895

Advertised a MacBook Pro, dealt through PM and WhatsApp.

Set time for COD on 3/8/2013 on 12pm at Times Square the day before.

Normally, I don't reserve units, preferring first come, first serve, yet in this case decided to accept reserve for COD, since he seems to be an active trader. Even went to the extent of asking him to really confirm if he wants the unit and that I will post the unit as reserved to him on the thread. He acceded, claiming himself to be a serious buyer.

I went to the extent of declining other offers because of the agreement.

Turns out on the morning of 3/8/2013, at around 9, suddenly PM saying got emergency.

Asked when to COD, he replied that he will let me know.

Now, at this point of time, I knew that this is no deal already, probably because he wanted to back out of the deal because he couldn't actually afford it or none of his numerous sales thread is yielding any cash, but this is a RM3K+ deal. And the fact that he is spouting LIES made me angry.

So ask, kampong where? Answered Melaka. And said High School student, so no car. (Tipula)

Ask him drop by Seremban on the way, cannot, father get angry nanti. (Tipu Lagi)

So, asked him to pay deposit since he is not sure when to COD. Suddenly said, OK, no need to reserve. (Sorry - The Rule IS DON'T ASK TO RESERVE if you are not intending to deal).

If cannot afford, don't ask people to reserve. I don't really mind, but kena the wrong person, you may "susahkan hidup orang."

Just for your general knowledge.

First of all, You wanted the Satuday COD. I agree.



Second of all, are you still persisting with that bull@@@@ about having to go to Melaka because emergency la and so on?

You see, it wasn't that hard to find out that you were lying about the whole "I need to go with my Family to Melaka for Emergency". If it were true, I got no problem, such is the vagaries of life.

But here is the thing, you were not at Melaka.

I mean, you were fine to do COD with someone around 10 AM (I mean, you did say RIGHT NOW). Heck, you were just fine to COD with someone at 2PM. In KL. In McDonalds. Guy from Subang? Ring any bells yet? I mean, I do have the WhatsApp chat and all.

Notice that I didn't say anything about your ability to COD in KL when you are supposed to be in Melaka in the first post. I just wanted to see your response.

i have this issue with one of the lowyat member here. Before I report his FFK, i want to know is this "FFK" issues is common or acceptable in this forums.

seller)  Offer me chromecast and will able to deliver next week
me) My conditions is must be deliver with 10days
seller) No problem
me) quote "then u have a deal!"
seller) send bank account no
seller) after 90 minutes say "sold"
me) quote "FFKing"
seller) i never reserved for you. is first come first serve.

How you guys think? Is this common?

Well, for me it's either full bank transfer & postage, or COD with zero deposit... I always get the "no need deposit lah bro, I will show up wan" story...

To me, agreeing to deal and then stop replying PM/SMS (even if neither party has gone to the COD location yet) still counts as FFK.

It's pretty obvious you both did not read the conversation properly. The part where he says "can COD now" establishes the time, and the part where he says "ok deal, midvalley where" is definitely a verbal agreement. The negotiation process is over.

As I stated in an earlier post, I don't think I have to be waiting at the COD location for this to constitute a FFK case.

Anyway, each person is entitled to his/her own set of criteria to define what FFK is. For me, seeing how you deem his behaviour acceptable (especially Mr. Noobding) is a reflection on your own trading etiquette. Might fall asleep? What nonsense. Pfffftt 

Forumer you are complaining against: 0169072385 Johnny

Item intended to be sold : Nexus 4 Accessories

Original thread link: As per WhatsApp

Date of transaction: 23rd November 2013

Details of the complaint :

Spitted Into 2 Deals. This guy is actually a returning buyer. blacklist as on 2nd deal, but as to show transparency, i'll put full conversation here

Second Deal
- 13th November, buyer inquiry again and ask for a Nexus 4 Case this time, which previous 1st deal was a HTC case.
- Request additional photos on the casing and asking for a discount nego price.
- Request to meet at Klang (40km+ Away). Later after he only found that he deal with me before.
- Deal was later to be schedule on 23th November
- On 21st November [Thursday], Buyer Request time to Deal @ 3pm on Saturday and I agree with the time.
- On Saturday, as usual I whatsapp buyer for a reminder time on 9.15am
- Buyer confirmed too and me to look for USB printing service at Kepong for him. [LOL]
- On 11.28am, Buyer reply again time got changes and will update me again, might be around 4pm.
- With Immidiate effect, i whatsapp-ed him for a confirmation time as earlier schedule had been planned earlier.
- No replies from buyer, Called and Inquiry for the exact time.
- On 1pm, buyer replied confirmation time @ 4pm.
- I'm okay with the 2nd time changes although already ajak friends on tea session as considering customer priority on my top practice.
- Well, things doesn't goes well, on 3.05pm, buyer request for ANOTHER changes again asking to meet at another location. Worst still as change location this time at Batu Caves, u guys do the calculation, initial COD point was near Bandar Sri Damansara.
- 6 minutes later I rejected as Initial meeting time was changed twice and now again for another change? tolerance level got jacked up
- 3.36pm buyer replied, doing tinting there, ask me don't go COD location 1st and wait for his update [LOL?]
- Replied with "I customer ma, so now i got something on. Hehe"
- OKAY, TOLERANCE LEVEL GOT PROVOKED ! i request to cancel deal
- Buyer reply "my car last minit need settle, so doing now, Is it like that u do business?"
- On 27th November, Buyer replied again "By the way, i got my nexus 4 case xxxxxxx , dont forget u treat ur customers like shit, and you not the only seller out there, tata haha"

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First Deal
- First deal was counted successful after tonnes of inquiries from buyer [More than 20 page on Whatsapp]
- After more than 15 minutes of Nego-ing with one unit case purchase on the spot when cod (whereby price had been already agreed before COD), Deal was counted successful.
- 1 week later, buyer inquiry for a replacement on the FREE screen protector included with the case.
- After explanation, the fussy 1st deal was successful without any big feelings.

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Conclusion / Moral Of The Story
- Seller = Human too
- We Value Your As Customer, You Treat Seller's Time As Shit ?
- Money can't buy u Seller's Dignity, Please do not treat Seller like a Dog
Thanks for reading guys, u guys be the judge of this

I know about his status in this forum.
I know that i new in here.
Bcoz many people been trying to protect him. Their deal successful.
They said, he is the trusted seller, recommended seller, easy dealer, and many good title to him.
How about other people? The people that been fooled by him, since 2006 until now.
Yes, LYN didn't take any action on him bcoz of this people.
Thats why i told u before. If Admin or Mod didn't take an action.
Come to worst, people that not from LYN administration "would" be take the advance action...
We Dont know yet...

share - Yip from 2009 - 2012, Alexis - 2013 (Kantoi)

Forumer you are complaining against: fendymyn = https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=661075

Item being sold/bought: iPhone 5 32GB White

Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3193764&hl=

Date of transaction: 19/4/2014

Details of the complaint :

Have agreed to deal with this forumer at 12:30PM in Asia Jaya LRT and since i am working on that day at 1PM, i have advice Forumer please be on time so i can come there, COD and just go to work straight.

Reached ASIA JAYA LRT STATION on time and tried to call,SMS & WHATSAPP forumer but left with a voicemail and also SMS from Maxis saying the person have switched off the device and unable to send the SMS.

Instead of i am going to work at 1PM , i went to work at 2PM jeopradising my work and also tarnishing my image at my workplace due to uneducated buyer which does not understand the term of Principle of Forum Trading and selling.

I didnt know LRT Takes a very freaking long time to travel and reach as waited for 1Hour 30Mins but yet end up never show up at all as mention travelling from KL SENTRAL AT 12:54PM but Sending SMS At 5PM asking where am i as already being advised of my work nature and my availability. Took him almost 5 Hours to reach.

When finaly able to manage and contact him, he mention he have sold off his phone and did not have any spare phone to contact or drop and sms in case of emergency.

When i tried to explain the situation to him, he mention he is out of budget and not afford to buy the device and ask me to sell to someone else. When asked him why u agreed in the first place to buy the device when u dont have the budget, Was being advised that a very simple answer " DONT KNOW"

He thought its a game where he can reserve the item and then when not interested, give excuse and off the phone so we tried to call and then we let go of the person and then they can walk away free but didnt know or understand the concept of forum trade and selling as once ur NICK is damaged , forever u live with that name or unless u create a dupe account.











Both of the Person had scared me for life as this was the first time i had being ffk'ED back to back in the same week and waited for hours and hours wasting my time,petrol,Money and tarnish my image and rep at my workplace for a low lifeless person which does not honour and respect anther human being.All they care is that how to manipulate and escape from the seller if they wish to withdraw from their interest on buying the product as a simple Call to advice will do instead of keeping a person with hope to wait in the dark and off the phone just tried to escape like letting a dog to bark for a few mins as when the dog gets tired, it will just ignore..

Such a very bad experience which in future i will be scared to sell/buy anything in LYN...

A very BIG NONO for carlosangel = https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=62087 &  fendymyn = https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=661075

Just want to warn every sellers NOT to deal with this person named Liew Yi Chuan.

He ordered a chair from us knowing that he needed to wait for it to reach but refused to honour the deal after the chair has reached.

Blocked our whatsapp and phone number.

Forum Nickname: He found our sales thread on LYN but contacted us via phone without PM-ing us.

Name: Liew Yi Chuan

Contact : 018-2993929

Screenshots:

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For me... As seller why trouble us go to other places... Just stay at our place if buyer want ask them to come.. Maybe give them discount a bit for fuel.. Or provide them a place which for u easy to go...

Your name: Themoneyking

complaining against : Name Alvin  Maccentric Technologies

Number 0126907250

Item  : Palit GTX 980
Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3958584&hl=

Date :  16 may 2016

Details of the complaint : FFK by this guy wasting my time by waiting him then last minute ffk by fantastic excuse

Well Sometimes people FFK by mistake, sometimes on purpose but sometimes also will get complain .
chat conversation & what's app will be update below .

Forumer you are complaining against : frankie138
Phone no: 0149313040

Item : 100% Genuine Canon PG810 & CL811 Value Pack

Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3484370&hl=

This guy so-called deric tan i suspect is a scammer trying to do the ABC scam. Ask for my bank account number and insist on postage. But after i gave the bank account number, no response at all. I suspect he is using my account number to scam other people into bank-in and ask me to deliver the item.

Below are the shipping "address" he gave me.

deric tan
j3735 jalan kesang 77000 jasin
014-9313040
Beware of this guy.

My first FFK encounter:

- User: XengineerX
- Thread: [WTS] Apple iPad mini 2 Wi-Fi 16GB, Space gray in brand new sealed box (Apple)

XengineerX asked for my contact number and agreed to COD around 12 noon but did not show up and did not reply my.

Attached the content of our PM:

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