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post Mar 15 2011, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(asukajin @ Mar 5 2011, 06:51 PM)
Forumer you are complaining against: lone_wolf
Item being sold/bought: killzone 2 ps3

Original thread link:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1778161&hl=

Date of transaction: Tomorrow

Details of the complaint : I confirmed deal with him.
He agreed to sell it to me and saying stuffs like COD at midvalley and stuffs.
So i PM him today as agreed yesterday to set the time and place to COD the game with me.
I got reply from him saying he sold off to his friend already.
Luckily i PM him beforehand if not waste my time and petrol to go there from shah alam.

Honor your promise la bro. If u agreed to sell me the item then by all means honor it. niot promise me and then suddenly sell it off to sumone else.

How would you feel if someone do that to you?
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I suppose only people that have been FFKed only come and complain here. sweat.gif
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post Apr 5 2011, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Darren_7144 @ Apr 5 2011, 05:54 AM)
amybest88 beware this guy, he say cod at ipoh when sat or sun then i bek hometown(ipoh) cod with him then i sms him. he say afternoon then cod. after that i wait till afternoon and he say "My car take to service center and dunno when can fix". What a good reason! dam it!
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COD what item? Original thread?
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post May 12 2011, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(summerangelx @ May 9 2011, 06:00 PM)
Forumer you are complaining against: freestyliquified

Item intended to buy: Iphone 3GS 16GB

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1859192&hl=

Date of transaction: Agreed to COD on Monday 9/5/2011

Details of the complaint :

First time i have faced FFK problems in LYN.
Not sure this consider FFK issue but really not happy so  express and share to other forumer.
According to agreement from seller and buyer on Saturday 7/5/11 thru sms, we will be cod only on Monday as seller was in hometown on weekends... (Buyer insist to COD on the same day saturday but have to postpone to Monday 9/5/11)
OK 9/5/11 Monday, Buyer sms the seller on 2pm again to confirm the place to meet and time, Seller reply yes and agreed.
But unfortunately, Buyer received a sms from seller around 5 pm saying there is a another buyer offer higher price and can cod at his place immediately also because no deposit involved so need to call off deal.

What this mean? I felt Seller never respect to the agreement and the Buyer as well...
Nothing i can say much as i no interest to deal with him anymore.

Anyway i dont think it is special case as it is always happen in low yat here... but i first time kena after read so much ffk issue....

Thank you!
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In your case, it is quite hard to determine right or wrong, but did the confirmation take place or not? Did the seller tell you that he reserve the right to cancel the deal unless deposit is paid?
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post May 23 2011, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(xamenyap @ May 22 2011, 12:47 AM)
no one has the time to listen to your bloody grandma and pa story la ...just get to the point la ...buy and sell ...... time = money ....and besides have you ever enjoy listening to your uncle and aunty story on when they were young ?


Added on May 22, 2011, 12:49 am
they do not want to break the heart seller .... yea , i agree ..just simply say ...sorry , i do not want to buy instead of keeping the seller longing .=.=


Added on May 22, 2011, 12:55 am
refund the money and try to call him ( telling you have refunded the money ) ...if fail to call , just sms . nothing can be done much . dont keep the money . you didnt earn it .


Added on May 22, 2011, 1:02 amwant to sell my toys but most buyer say they want and only want to COD . im from ipoh and they are from kl . so its hard to meet up . told them i can postage but dont want .

should i reserve for them ? i may lose some potential buyers and i do not know whether 100% they will buy anot . blush.gif

besides if i ask them to deposit , i scare i " susahkan" them ...and they dont want to buy in the end .
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In your case, try to ask around any of your relative or trusted friends for you to send the item to them and COD with them. Otherwise, preferably forget about it.
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post Jun 8 2011, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(cliffkhew @ Jun 7 2011, 10:58 PM)
Avoid buying items of this seller J1@l_ l_l l\l !!!Payment was banked into his account but item was not sent to me(Already waiting for 2 weeks).And the payment didn't refund to me  mad.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1833358&hl=
A lot of selling threads from this member,be extremely caution with this irresponsible guy!!!

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I do not think that it is a FFK case. You should open one thread to complain about it.
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post Jul 8 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(zhy323 @ Jul 8 2011, 01:31 AM)
adeh, lagi panas bro kena ffk. dah la jauh, last2 kena mcm ni plak~
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Trade Enforcer juga berani FFK. Lain kali tak mahu layan dia kalau dia tanya apa apa.
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post Aug 1 2011, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(hong553 @ Aug 1 2011, 12:39 AM)
dear seller especially who active in mobile phone store, please beware of kefey1wu.
2 days ago, i travelled to mid valley for cod without charging any additional fee, as i stated cod area is sunway.
after i reached there, i just give him check the ipod, and take it to machine for activate the ipod under his name and confirm the stuff is working.
at last he only start nego with me, and offered ridiculous price for my ipod, then blame that i didn't give charger for him as i mention at my post before there is no charger for ipod, somemore said his friend is wating for him, and will cancel the deal if i dont accept the price, i never meet this kind of buyer before, i was too stupid, i shouldn't trust him. thanks for the person, i learned a lesson from him.

friendly reminder to all seller, please collect full payment or deposit before let a person to open a sealed item for checking and testing purpose.

ps: sry for my bad grammar
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Sorry for what happen to you. I know that he is seeking a dual sim phone in lowyat.net mobile phone section. Luckily he did not show interest in my dual sim handphone.
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post Aug 7 2011, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(hong553 @ Aug 1 2011, 10:15 PM)
is ok, if he really want to cod with you, you better collect deposit before cod =)
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A non refundable deposit for a "famous" fellow should be a reasonable step to prevent unpleasant things. tongue.gif
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post Aug 17 2011, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(apex_ikan @ Aug 17 2011, 12:53 PM)
beware of this both RidzCgFx and hou83

pm me to buy my gc, looks comfirm wanna buy since asking for my details including bank account number and then

gone poof without any answer not even replying my pm

if u dont have money, dont buy, simple as that as kindergarden student also know
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different user? No response at all?
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post Aug 17 2011, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(apex_ikan @ Aug 17 2011, 07:45 PM)
yeah different user or maybe dupe i dont know, and yeah no response at all

i dont mind if buyer dont wanna buy,but why bother asking for details? rclxub.gif
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Ask for price right? Normal la.
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post Sep 10 2011, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(emobiletechnology @ Sep 10 2011, 12:14 PM)
Then wat? Why ask people go to COD?! From KL to Sunway, then just because he just want to see the things !?  doh.gif Our TIME & TRANSPORT FEE is NOT the $$$ ??!!!
He can let us know & tell us truely and he dun want to buy & he just want to see the things. Somemore ask people bring MiPow 2200, Yoobao Power Bank, etc.  vmad.gif
Think about it, if u r from KL & i ask go to my place in SUNWAY & bring all the items that u have. I m late HALF an HOUR, then i just open your packages & i not going to buy from u. Would u angry?
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I strongly suggest that you confirm the deal like which item he want before you go. No point being too "obedient" to customer. Just make sure taht we behave professionally would do IMO. Not all buyers are professional or act logically either.

QUOTE(yezhacolic @ Sep 10 2011, 01:01 PM)
Angry yes, but its more to ethics and attitude. Calm down man.
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If i were in his shoes, i won't not be that calm as well. Time, fuel and money spent for "showcase".
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post Oct 2 2011, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(domminic @ Sep 29 2011, 11:53 AM)
Warning to all trading with X-LaW

this irresponsible trader posted a new ipad for sale

apparently he won it in a lucky draw from the company
X-LaW confirmed to COD with me on friday after he collected his ipad
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when X-LaW collected it on thursday, it was an ipad2 instead so he canceled the COD
i already turned down 3 other offers for ipad2 since he confirmed the COD
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i am ready to topup for the new ipad2
but X-LaW refused
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so beware of X-LaW, this irresponsible trader

hope others dont kena FFK from him like me
waste my time and cost me other opportunities
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Be frank, if i were like you, i have report to this thread for more than 3 times.
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post Oct 9 2011, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(derrickmoo @ Oct 9 2011, 08:37 PM)
Was FFk by this superb irresponsible buyer! His name is Hong (017-4213569)

Please be careful when you this number, 2 hour ago, we have set the time to meet up at sunway carnival mall (Seberang prai at penang, BM)

Before i went there around 8pm, i called/sms and double confirmed with him, still fine!

Then when i have reached, i called and he didnt pick up the call and finally sms and said deal cancelled!

Plz be careful of this number (017-4213569, and his name is HONG from BM, Penang!)
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He sms and confirm the deal?
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post Oct 11 2011, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(nrhull @ Oct 11 2011, 04:55 PM)
THIS FFK SELLER FROM HOKAGIMAN.AND HIS NUMBER 01115005882.STUPID SELLER.I WAIT 20 MINUTES DONT COME AND NOT PICKUP MY CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HE WANT TO SELL BLACKBERRY BOLD 2 RM550.MALAY GUY

AGREE TO COD WITH ME LRT STIAWANGSA 2.30.AND AFTER ARRIVED HE NOT PICKUP MY CALL!AND HE NOT REPLY MY SMS!!AFTER THAT I SEE HIS THREAD ALREADY SOLD!WTF!
NOT REPLY MY SMS AND NOT SAY SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2065893&hl=
please admin my suggestion new member must have 50 post and after that new member baru boleh menjual and buat new thread...if not many seller can ffk like this...tq...and like hokagiman...tq

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You really have to be careful with new members. It may be dupes of conman.
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post Oct 14 2011, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(ryanboy91 @ Oct 12 2011, 02:33 AM)
sorry to hear that... maybe next time you can try to check their record clean or not first then only deal.... i also got ffk by buyer.... agreed to buy phone SE Ray and ask for best price.. after i told him he said ok... i say check stock for him and 5 mins later call him no pick out... call few times also no pick up.... totally give up........ Hope lowyat.net can provide a system for identify safe trader.(i also wanted to apply safe trader tag but still cannot meet up at the requirement). If can lowyat.net try to change another way of applying safe trader like the infomations about the trader and confirm le only give...
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TO be honest, i do not see how safe trader would make us less prone from being FFK by buyers.

QUOTE(skyz91 @ Oct 14 2011, 07:18 PM)
u're not in my position bro..
if u know even u set reminder also u will forget..
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At least you know and sms people to tell them that they are not able to make it. Don't make people wait like that.
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post Oct 16 2011, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(skyz91 @ Oct 15 2011, 01:14 PM)
ya i know it's my fault bro and also call to say sorry to him..
i already contact him yesterday to settle the deal at his place..
and he say ok to deal at his place..
and right now, he didn't pick up call when i call few times around 7.30pm to confirm the place..
and then i call again around 10.30pm to cod with him at his place but still no pick up..
how i want to settle the problem if he want to revenge back..?
now he also doing the same thing..
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there is a lack of fine guideline abt tis.

for me, if people do not confirm they are available, i'll wait for their next call or i call off the deal.
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post Oct 24 2011, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 22 2011, 01:07 PM)
so a question here, after the dispute and all, do they get blacklisted or in the warning list?
How do we know if any action has been taken?
Thanks.
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Next time some other people would be more cautious when dealing with this kind of people.
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post Nov 10 2011, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Nov 10 2011, 02:45 PM)
Being safe_trader means they need to keep up their reputation. Any complain even on FFK issue will have their status revoked. So it is less likely safe trader will FFK. I say less likely not won't happen.
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Ok. I get it or at least they will try to amend under the table. wink.gif

Apis Bro,

I am still waiting for your solution on FFK issues. Recently, being FFK by a few low lifee buyers.....
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post Nov 30 2011, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(itssg @ Nov 29 2011, 11:53 AM)
He called himself Lee. Refused to tell what is his id...
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I doubt FFK people would tell you their ID unless there is unexpected elements in it.
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post Mar 15 2012, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(scott5201314 @ Mar 15 2012, 12:15 PM)
pls read my thread carefully, mr senior member!
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1925256&hl=
and the phone call u made,i think is to different person, as from the pm, u clearly know that the the ipad is 1.5 years old! and ipad 2 has 1.5years old? pls b logic to yourself!
one more thing, making report earlier than me doesnt mean u doing the right thing, im still junior member here i hav sold many things and i dun hav time like u wasting to keep FFK deal and update ur successful trade list.
rajurajz , there are 2 brothers of Singh. to claim themselves as IPAD supplier

the user name above has ffk the deal, due to he said he is the senior member of this forum, i cant report him. however im writing this report to the moderator for once again to testify the attitude for a trader or a buyer should have during trade.

before meet up, we have been communicate with PM and they clearly know the product tat im selling is 1.5 years old from the PM ( i can attach screen shot), then we set up meetings over phone call.

during the dealing process, he has not been a gentlemen and accusing me selling different thing as description of my forum thread which is not true, they were juz trying to getaway from the trade for some reason and lastly offer me 600 for the ipad which we promised 1000 bucks earlier. which mean they will juz simply meet up with seller without agreeing the price and without reading thread and pmp properly.

furthermore, at end of the the meeting, he slam my car door heavily which makes me think that this kind of impolite trader should stay out of the trading zone. this really doesnt makes me feel comfortable and i hope the moderator can do smtg abt these guys.
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Did he say so? You attach picture for him to see?

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