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post Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM, updated 4y ago

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One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh

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post Jun 27 2022, 01:24 PM

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She can try sell 550k. Dont be stubborn. Find more property agents
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That is called perceived market value, not the actual market value buyers willing to transact in.
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post Jun 27 2022, 01:25 PM

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got value but hardly any transaction

especially sub-sales which buyer need fork out extra for paperworks
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post Jun 27 2022, 01:26 PM

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Market value so high but no market to sell…
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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Beside empire shopping gallery subang?
Biar betul nobody wants.. that's prime area

Ts tipu la
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post Jun 27 2022, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jun 27 2022, 02:25 PM)
got value but hardly any transaction

especially sub-sales which buyer need fork out extra for paperworks
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Unker notice subang jaya area mostly liddis. Even for landed. Market value rm800k+ but went listed for sale krik krik totally no demand…

Itu singkie tinajian oso same cerita cant sell his subang jaya house eventhough already soent so much money renovate and refurbish
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Have price no market is syok sendiri price. If dropped by 30% see have demand or not.

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 27 2022, 02:26 PM)
Beside empire shopping gallery subang?
Biar betul nobody wants.. that's prime area

Ts tipu la
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post Jun 27 2022, 01:27 PM

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Saujana Subang? consider one of the better condo wo.
infact looks affordable and very strategic.

a bit older compare to other new launch, but condition not bad ma, pretty well maintained.

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post Jun 27 2022, 01:27 PM

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If rental drop 50%, then try RM300K sale price.
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i am more worry about the people who owned properties at Bukit Beruntung and Lembah Beringin there...

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:27 PM)
Unker notice subang jaya area mostly liddis. Even for landed. Market value rm800k+ but went listed for sale krik krik totally no demand…

Itu singkie tinajian oso same cerita cant sell his subang jaya house eventhough already soent so much money renovate and refurbish
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House above 800k only T30 family can afford lah.

That group of ppl typically more picky and won’t cincai buy your 800k pre-owned unit either.

Only those sub 500k properties high demand and turnovers, cause that’s what B70 can afford.

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post Jun 27 2022, 01:29 PM

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Keyword "outskirt"

Deswai i last time mentioned dont bother with outskirt unless the purpose is to live in it eventhough it is cheap. Sell/rent confirm susah.
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Market value is not same bank value.


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Everymonth no savings?
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post Jun 27 2022, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jun 27 2022, 02:29 PM)
Keyword "outskirt"

Deswai i last time mentioned dont bother with outskirt unless the purpose is to live in it eventhough it is cheap. Sell/rent confirm susah.
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Ok cerita outskirt. What abiut Saujana Subang? Its beside Subang Parade, Empure Subang and Subang Jaya lrt station? Semua jalan kaki saja….

How?? Totally no appontment to view oso….
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Fake market value.

Ur friend can easily sell it at 400k
Greedy alligator price no body want to entertain

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post Jun 27 2022, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jun 27 2022, 01:29 PM)
Keyword "outskirt"

Deswai i last time mentioned dont bother with outskirt unless the purpose is to live in it eventhough it is cheap. Sell/rent confirm susah.
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Subang is outskirt meh?
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post Jun 27 2022, 01:33 PM

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ask property valuer come quote ur house, he gib 600k and then u must ask him, are you willing to buy for 600k before pay professional fees.


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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:27 PM)
Its true bro…
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Saujana residency very gooding.

Flanked by empire subang and subang parade.
Lrt also near


I suggest you buy from your friend. Say to her 500k kawtim
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Subang, of coz nobody want to view.
Subang not for human live one
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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How much she bought? Dont think too much, u buy cheap can sell cheap la. u wan make so much for what? keep paying interest unless she paid full.
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post Jun 27 2022, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(tkn0811 @ Jun 27 2022, 01:28 PM)
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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QUOTE(Darkspreader @ Jun 27 2022, 01:25 PM)
That is called perceived market value, not the actual market value buyers willing to transact in.
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More like shock sendiri value


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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jun 27 2022, 02:41 PM)
More like shock sendiri value
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Dey thamby!

Wheres ur 150k kl studio??? ohmy.gif
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post Jun 27 2022, 01:45 PM

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Market value high but no buyer. Then that isn't the market value la. Just greedy.

You try sell roti canai RM 10 then say market value, con9firm kena slap upside down
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Jun 27 2022, 02:45 PM)
Market value high but no buyer. Then that isn't the market value la. Just greedy.

You try sell roti canai RM 10 then say market value, con9firm kena slap upside down
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Then ppl happily buy new launch sime darby isola la, what is that new condo beside tnb huge ass powerplant? Rm1000 per square foot bro…

Boleh pulak? :/

Sold out oso
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if listing for 2 years for 600k and no one interested. thats not market value. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:31 PM)
Ok cerita outskirt. What abiut Saujana Subang? Its beside Subang Parade, Empure Subang and Subang Jaya lrt station? Semua jalan kaki saja….

How?? Totally no appontment to view oso….
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QUOTE(c64 @ Jun 27 2022, 01:32 PM)
Subang is outskirt meh?
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Subang is so damn far from the central business district. Your only target for rental would be the industrial area workers and students and you think alot of high income people will be at those places meh.. heck even kepong or kuchai can rent faster.

Deswai those units are mainly to move in, not so much on flipping. Being a luxury condo status makes it even worse especially with shah alam also lelong luxury condo at 30% cheaper but location is not a big compromise.

Imagine when your target buyers are those family who will move in. Do you think they will buy your resale subang or a brand new one in shah alam, 10 minutes away for 30%-50% less.
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market value by you frnd or developer izzit?
ask value will know
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Got buyer just that she need to lower her price to meet the offer.
My shoplot I wanna let go RM900k, but buyer offer RM750k.
If I desperate then I lower the price to meet the offer lor
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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Jun 27 2022, 02:51 PM)
Got buyer just that she need to lower her price to meet the offer.
My shoplot I wanna let go RM900k, but buyer offer RM750k.
If I desperate then I lower the price to meet the offer lor
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post Jun 27 2022, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:47 PM)
Then ppl happily buy new launch sime darby isola la, what is that new condo beside tnb huge ass powerplant? Rm1000 per square foot bro…

Boleh pulak? :/

Sold out oso
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FOMO due to good marketing at bodo pipul. Just need to find the right suckers.
Sure got sucker buy RM 10 roti canai oso. Depends your marketing/selling skill.

You referring the Subang 1? I see location terus allergic reaction. Don't bother to remember name also.
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QUOTE(Darkspreader @ Jun 27 2022, 01:25 PM)
That is called perceived market value, not the actual market value buyers willing to transact in.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…


But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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Too high liao, if not desperate, wait it out, next year better. If not got buyers with cash 450-500k, anytime. That place a lot of banglas renting so standard low a bit, hypermarket cram 10 ppl in one condo.


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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Jun 27 2022, 01:51 PM)
Got buyer just that she need to lower her price to meet the offer.
My shoplot I wanna let go RM900k, but buyer offer RM750k.
If I desperate then I lower the price to meet the offer lor
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Offer 400k. COD.
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Offer 400k. COD.
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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Jun 27 2022, 01:59 PM)
Will consider your offer when I urgently need $$$
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When you urgently need, my offer is RM200k. icon_idea.gif
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I also can say this rock market value is RM600k but no market to sell.

People should probably have basic finance knowledge first.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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should see Cyber market too

ask you fren for AskarPerang service lah.
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jun 27 2022, 01:57 PM)
Too high liao, if not desperate, wait it out, next year better. If not got buyers with cash 450-500k, anytime. That place a lot of banglas renting so standard low a bit, hypermarket cram 10 ppl in one condo.
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that one Subang Avenue lah.

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Saujana Residency that one just beside empire

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market has been like that for years

you dont buy residential property for investment
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She sell below market price sure got ppl come buy wan, problem is most owner die die wanna sell premium price.
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Owner choosy lah

Can rent to A or I race at double price but don't want?
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sell RM200k then we will talk

if not, say bye2 to your degrading, dilapidating properties.

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:31 PM)
Ok cerita outskirt. What abiut Saujana Subang? Its beside Subang Parade, Empure Subang and Subang Jaya lrt station? Semua jalan kaki saja….

How?? Totally no appontment to view oso….
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topkek u ask ur fren for the unit key, then u stay there for a week, dont ever go out from the house

either the komuter noise will kill you or the federal highway noise . u choose lah.

subang olives, isola, empire soho, saujana residency, subang avenue, casa tiara till lot 15, all these if got unit facing komuter/federal highway really GG

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When they make money they didnt share with u also

They “invest” so they must accept the risk too

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:47 PM)
Then ppl happily buy new launch sime darby isola la, what is that new condo beside tnb huge ass powerplant? Rm1000 per square foot bro…

Boleh pulak? :/

Sold out oso
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Lot 15? most of the buyer were SD staff . got staff discount summore

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2nd hand house, spa n fees so expensive, ppl buying new launch instead
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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condo units in front of LRT station can't even sell at 600k

and she wants that value ?

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I have people owned 15 -20 properties at least, she and husband has no problem, summore she is very proud and looking down on those working class who owned no property. I think she got luck to be a property owner or flipper. I think she is lucky to have moratorium during the MCO too, all else it is different story.

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sell on own or gt property agents? if own, den wait long long la. the agent is there for a reason.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:47 PM)
Then ppl happily buy new launch sime darby isola la, what is that new condo beside tnb huge ass powerplant? Rm1000 per square foot bro…

Boleh pulak? :/

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I think people don't understand the meaning of market value. They are always talking about asking price instead of market value. If there is no buyer at the asking price it means that the asking price is to high. In order to sell, need to reduce the price until there is a buyer. That is how you find the market value. Not by stating some number as "market value" and then say that cannot sell at "market value".
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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Nice try, try harder.
By the way, how outskirt is that 1000sqft condo wanting to sell at 300k? How many years?
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many properties also same. I have been viewing so many since last year til now. Many people lost their jobs during MCO and became poor since then...so how are they going to buy any property now??

These sellers also very stubborn. Mati2 dont wanna lower the price even though more than 1-2 years nobody even came and offered any price to the seller. Good la....let these stubborn sellers continue to pay the bank every month forever then.
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Jun 27 2022, 02:47 PM)
I think people don't understand the meaning of market value. They are always talking about asking price instead of market value. If there is no buyer at the asking price it means that the asking price is to high. In order to sell, need to reduce the price until there is a buyer. That is how you find the market value. Not by stating some number as "market value" and then say that cannot sell at "market value".
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Come TS hook me up, tell ur fren sell me 400k i go view the unit, if i like it i pay cash.
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When you urgently need, my offer is RM200k. icon_idea.gif
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Just wait for the owner to lelong only lah. Nowadays unless u haz good cash flow and income those owners buy to flip sendiri kena flipped like loti canai.

Everywhere u go ppl say market price this and that, what market ? The market is for whomever wanna be the waterfish and pay the perceived prices.
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QUOTE(empire @ Jun 27 2022, 02:59 PM)
many properties also same. I have been viewing so many since last year til now. Many people lost their jobs during MCO and became poor since then...so how are they going to buy any property now??

These sellers also very stubborn. Mati2 dont wanna lower the price even though more than 1-2 years nobody even came and offered any price to the seller. Good la....let these stubborn sellers continue to pay the bank every month forever then.
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I've been browsing since before covid.... really kennot brain....
after covid, decide to rent big house like ikankering saja....

mortage monthly is 2*rent.....
I think I will make the other man rich, but I rent 80 years like i pay 40 years mortage.
only difference is, i can fuck off tomorrow without worrying about how to sell house
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QUOTE(Eurochem @ Jun 27 2022, 03:03 PM)
I've been browsing since before covid.... really kennot brain....
after covid, decide to rent big house like ikankering saja....

mortage monthly is 2*rent.....
I think I will make the other man rich, but I rent 80 years like i pay 40 years mortage.
only difference is, i can fuck off tomorrow without worrying about how to sell house
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no money to buy.
i rent in putrajaya.
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no money to buy.
i rent in putrajaya.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 27 2022, 01:26 PM)
Beside empire shopping gallery subang?
Biar betul nobody wants.. that's prime area

Ts tipu la
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U all no visit new launch property showroom ka? U go see the weekends, packed crazy. Now ppl go buy new if they can, lower upfront fees. Not to say no ppl buying
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my condo in wangsa maju... perhaps it is a good investment spot, right beside lrt.

listed for 2 days then got people offer 50k higher to immediately sell to them.
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Try sell at below market price 30% . Sure got people buy one.
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dei my bukit beruntung industrial lot until today still krik krik
dei my bukit rahman putra until today still krik krik
dei my bangsar south shout also krik krik
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:27 PM)
Unker notice subang jaya area mostly liddis. Even for landed. Market value rm800k+ but went listed for sale krik krik totally no demand…

Itu singkie tinajian oso same cerita cant sell his subang jaya house eventhough already soent so much money renovate and refurbish
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I can buy 600K cash just right away.. but problem your friend house is not market value.

general rule is if you want people to buy your house fast, you gonna cut price by a lot min 30%. Try 400K, people will instant grab. thats assuming everyone use is selling 500K & actually transact. if you do pretty sure not only me in lowyat will sapu it. A lot here is T10+.

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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Where high class condo 1500sqft for RM550K?
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Nak kesian apa

Lantak pergi mampus la orang jenis tamak haloba macam ni

Orang macam ni yang membuatkan harga rumah naik dan become unafforable

I don’t care if they going to bankrupt due to this

The most funny thing is when they rent out, they think that they can put high price for rent when the market nowadays are renters market. Selamat mereput

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jun 27 2022, 01:48 PM)
Subang is so damn far from the central business district. Your only target for rental would be the industrial area workers and students and you think alot of high income people will be at those places meh.. heck even kepong or kuchai can rent faster.

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Kek, you just offended a lot of subang-kias in this forum. Dun say i didn’t warn you.

But kepong got good prospects now because the mrt2 line just opened. Area ard Jln kepong going thru some revitalization.
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No need to pity.

Own self greedy don't want sell cheap.


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QUOTE(kons @ Jun 27 2022, 03:24 PM)
my condo in wangsa maju... perhaps it is a good investment spot, right beside lrt.

listed for 2 days then got people offer 50k higher to immediately sell to them.
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which condo? near sri rampai?
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Market value is not realised value

Hold 2 years, money stuck because illiquidity
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QUOTE(upcars @ Jun 27 2022, 04:27 PM)
inb4
dei my bukit beruntung industrial lot until today still krik krik
dei my bukit rahman putra until today still krik krik
dei my bangsar south shout also krik krik
dei my north kiara krik krik krok krok
dei my nilai 23456 krik krok krak kruk
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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telll her, sell to me 150k, i buy
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Deswai I always say, developer can increase price but it will only be a syiok sendiri price.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 02:36 PM)
topkek u ask ur fren for the unit key, then u stay there for a week, dont ever go out from the house

either the komuter noise will kill you or the federal highway noise . u choose lah.

subang olives, isola, empire soho, saujana residency, subang avenue, casa tiara till lot 15, all these if got unit facing komuter/federal highway really GG
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when that place opened for booking years ago, i visited that area 4 times at various times of day and evening to monitor how livable the area is. u r 100% right about the noises from ktm and highway...and there's one more factor....when the wind is right, there's prolonged smells of hot rubber, exhaust smoke and sometimes burning clutches. no ty biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 27 2022, 03:33 PM)
Kek, you just offended a lot of subang-kias in this forum. Dun say i didn’t warn you.

But kepong got good prospects now because the mrt2 line just opened. Area ard Jln kepong going thru some revitalization.
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They live there so not affected.. those who invest there ggwp lol. I also long ago release subang properties liao.
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That area sux... Student also dpnt way stay there
Goodluck
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 02:25 PM)
that one Subang Avenue lah.

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Saujana Residency that one just beside empire

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The one where LRT runs behind from 5am till 1130pm? Summore so far away from the station? If you wanna rent, guess which one you'll be renting? Don't expect buyers will be staying, 80% want to rent or flip, better the ones that can give access to local public transport (bus, LRT, etc.)

Like I said, 450-500k cash.

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my landed around 800k, neighbour wanna sell 1.2m, cuz "i did extension, reno abit" lol

if can sell i happy for him. but any value u set dont mean shit if no one buys.

answer - how liquid is ur assets.

dats me.
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if the rents do not cover the mortgage payments also susah if one is holding a lot. assessment fees and maintenance can be jialat
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How much ts friend earning from salary?
Everymonth no savings?
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Market is just bad now..coz everyone is cash strap.

Those investors and flippers need to hold 2/ 3 years for recovery.

Sorry ts. But this is reality. Our stock market also gg.
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mora is ending soon yo

some are still paying half of their supposed mortgage payments

once normalized, plus BNM's pursuit to hike OPR back to 3.0%, that is when vultures are out with their cash to grab lelong props
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butbutbut when pooperty flippers flip, I don't hear them kpkb also.
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Try sell at below market price 30% . Sure got people buy one.
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You should say those leverage too high will die
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QUOTE(kons @ Jun 27 2022, 03:24 PM)
my condo in wangsa maju... perhaps it is a good investment spot, right beside lrt.

listed for 2 days then got people offer 50k higher to immediately sell to them.
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seems that these days prop that can make money is only those right beside LRT/MRT. other than that u mmg gg lo
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Subang wanna rent out, no better place than this one. But expensive la.

The Grand Subang Jaya SS15
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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ Jun 27 2022, 04:06 PM)
mora is ending soon yo

some are still paying half of their supposed mortgage payments

once normalized, plus BNM's pursuit to hike OPR back to 3.0%, that is when vultures are out with their cash to grab lelong props
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At times like this no one wants to buy anything big unless got HUGE incentives / tax discount from gov.

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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ Jun 27 2022, 04:06 PM)
mora is ending soon yo

some are still paying half of their supposed mortgage payments

once normalized, plus BNM's pursuit to hike OPR back to 3.0%, that is when vultures are out with their cash to grab lelong props
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belum end ke? no wonder economy still good now lol
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QUOTE(Blinklime @ Jun 27 2022, 03:54 PM)
my landed around 800k, neighbour wanna sell 1.2m, cuz "i did extension, reno abit" lol

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Last round of buyout is some kind of “QE” going on, where the so called transaction being propped up to sustain the market, letting the boomer generations to profit massively. The only side effect is property price going crazy like what is happening now.

The current generations gonna suffer and become slaves of the banks.
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Residential property should not be allowed as an investment. Limit of 2 properties max per person, or obscene tax (like 50% property value) on subsequent properties need to happen.

It’s a basic human need and the whole world is going to shit because it’s treated like a casino.

Commercial and industrial I can accept.


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QUOTE(thexs @ Jun 27 2022, 04:56 PM)
Residential property should not be allowed as an investment. Limit of 2 properties max per person, or obscene tax (like 50% property value) on subsequent properties need to happen.

It’s a basic human need and the whole world is going to shit because it’s treated like a casino.

Commercial and industrial I can accept.
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They still can put under cousin / children / parent / etc's name.

Flipper be like : you are just jealous of us making money.
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Yum....

18 months sale.
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QUOTE(thexs @ Jun 27 2022, 04:56 PM)
Residential property should not be allowed as an investment. Limit of 2 properties max per person, or obscene tax (like 50% property value) on subsequent properties need to happen.

It’s a basic human need and the whole world is going to shit because it’s treated like a casino.

Commercial and industrial I can accept.
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Just regulate ceiling price for resale properties. Like chicken 😗
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Just regulate ceiling price for resale properties. Like chicken 😗
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in uk housing price is regulated, but still fk.

you can buy a house at 600k pound, put 50k to renovate it nice nice, but when selling, they might say sir, this unit max 625k pound. you wanna sell 700k, they say you slow slow dream on.

outside la, inside london the prop price is same like singapork. main goreng wan. private dealer do shit all behind the scene.
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Just regulate ceiling price for resale properties. Like chicken 😗
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Add RM50k, else no doors and windows. Must learn from chicken sellers.
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QUOTE(empire @ Jun 27 2022, 02:59 PM)
many properties also same. I have been viewing so many since last year til now. Many people lost their jobs during MCO and became poor since then...so how are they going to buy any property now??

These sellers also very stubborn. Mati2 dont wanna lower the price even though more than 1-2 years nobody even came and offered any price to the seller. Good la....let these stubborn sellers continue to pay the bank every month forever then.
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Even got job also who dare to commit that kind of money? Plus 600k i assume is smallest unit 585 sq ft? Got so many YOLO type to afford 600k on such a tiny place when rumaweep half the price?
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 27 2022, 08:52 AM)
desa park city not even 1 month rent out d wor
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cos people that wanted to lcly is limitless.

I got a unit in westside where my unker is staying, and he day day tell me there's loads of professional konon prop agent sending letter if you're interested to rent out or sell your unit.

nonstop punya pestering.

with this kind of hardselling, of coz la desapark tenant owner traffic move like hell
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Property agent keep pushing out new condo. Saying is hot sell la.

Facing a big park yada yada
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Market value so high but no market to sell…

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I always see this sentence but the sentence have no logic!!!
The market value is the value to be sell on the market.
If there is no market to sell, there is no value or the value is not right.
Fuking simple as that. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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Saujana residency the developer died jor without strata. You mau beli double transfer lah incur 2x MOT plus all rented out to high class chicken siapa mau

Owner advertise rm900k for 1300 sqft kah kah kah konon its next to empire usj.

Baik beli landed lah

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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jun 27 2022, 05:09 PM)
in uk housing price is regulated, but still fk.

you can buy a house at 600k pound, put 50k to renovate it nice nice, but when selling, they might say sir, this unit max 625k pound. you wanna sell 700k, they say you slow slow dream on.

outside la, inside london the prop price is same like singapork. main goreng wan. private dealer do shit all behind the scene.
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Easiest and most proven way to regulate housing market is to control the loan terms. Just say mandatory 20% down, 25 year max loan tenure. Sure market prices crash and moderate.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 27 2022, 01:26 PM)
Beside empire shopping gallery subang?
Biar betul nobody wants.. that's prime area

Ts tipu la
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lol.

how long you never been there?
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Easiest and most proven way to regulate housing market is to control the loan terms. Just say mandatory 20% down, 25 year max loan tenure. Sure market prices crash and moderate.
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hardly gonna happen.

bank will put profit before anything else, and trust me, all kind of shit emotion gonna be involve.

example,

the bank will still loan to elon musk for his 365th bungalow after crying father mother sister dotter tears about how desperate he is in buying this dream house that his moyang had been dreaming for, even if none of whatever told to the banker is legit.

not because he's elon musk, but because he's taking a loan, profit long run for banks.
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QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ Jun 27 2022, 09:20 AM)
lol.

how long you never been there?
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tok first, kesah later.
nowadays peepu mindset.
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QUOTE(Fork @ Jun 27 2022, 04:54 PM)
Last round of buyout is some kind of “QE” going on, where the so called transaction being propped up to sustain the market, letting the boomer generations to profit massively. The only side effect is property price going crazy like what is happening now.

The current generations gonna suffer and become slaves of the banks.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jun 27 2022, 05:12 PM)
cos people that wanted to lcly is limitless.

I got a unit in westside where my unker is staying, and he day day tell me there's loads of professional konon prop agent sending letter if you're interested to rent out or sell your unit.

nonstop punya pestering.

with this kind of hardselling, of coz la desapark tenant owner traffic move like hell
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why other agent dont want hardsell other property?
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QUOTE(Darkspreader @ Jun 27 2022, 01:25 PM)
That is called perceived market value, not the actual market value buyers willing to transact in.
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Property value has always been like this.
After an up-tick (pass hype cycle), it stays flat (hold), then up-tick.

Up-tick here is exactly like a tick. Small dip then long up, ni macam > ✅

Not an inverted tick (many hopeful still waiting). Not gonna happen for one good reason, unless a prolonged recession with no to 0 strategies.

Value is usher by demand. Current market, ade/ takde bullets all ppl hold and nothing but hold. Making matter worst is our internal factors (stability) look much much more shietier than the world external indicators

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I am actually surprised that overpriced with 40 years left out of the leasehold landed houses around PJ managed to be sold for over RM700K. Yes SOLD!!!
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jun 27 2022, 03:51 PM)
The one where LRT runs behind from 5am till 1130pm? Summore so far away from the station? If you wanna rent, guess which one you'll be renting? Don't expect buyers will be staying, 80% want to rent or flip, better the ones that can give access to local public transport (bus, LRT, etc.)

Like I said, 450-500k cash.
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where go far one? 500 meters only from subang parade. walk a bit lah.

thing is boss, those who stays around there tends to drive their own cars

if can pay rental rm2K above do u think they will take lrt/komuter?

I am not kidding. they even parked their cars outside, then pdrm come saman cool2.gif

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 05:51 PM)
where go far one? 500 meters only from subang parade. walk a bit lah.

thing is boss, those who stays around there tends to drive their own cars

if can pay rental rm2K above do u think they will take lrt/komuter?

I am not kidding. they even parked their cars outside, then pdrm come saman cool2.gif
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R231_SL65_AMG that SDP Aurora should be completed by next year, right?

crazy SDP went nuts with 22 storeys condo right in front of the SJ main road entrance. dunno whether they dwellers can stand with the noise coming from federal highway and komuter

starting from rm 769K for two rooms 788ft only! ( in 2019 )
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Jun 27 2022, 03:46 PM)
when that place opened for booking years ago, i visited that area 4 times at various times of day and evening to monitor how livable the area is. u r 100% right about the noises from ktm and highway...and there's one more factor....when the wind is right, there's prolonged smells of hot rubber, exhaust smoke and sometimes burning clutches. no ty biggrin.gif
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wait till that SDP Aurora condo completed. that one right in from of the subang jaya corner entrance. feast your eyes wahai dwellers with non stop jam towards the batu tiga toll + komuter singing every 30 minutes lol

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 05:51 PM)
where go far one? 500 meters only from subang parade. walk a bit lah.

thing is boss, those who stays around there tends to drive their own cars

if can pay rental rm2K above do u think they will take lrt/komuter?

I am not kidding. they even parked their cars outside, then pdrm come saman cool2.gif
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That area more students rent, boss. 500m? Further than that, you measure from Subang Parade. I used to walk from Glomac station to Empire, definitely not 500m. Anyway yr friend desperate or you? Tell you now economy gonna be worse until middle of next year, mini world war, pandemic and recession happening, those with cash will be in demand.


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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jun 27 2022, 06:12 PM)
That area more students rent, boss. 500m? Further than that, you measure from Subang Parade. I used to walk from Glomac station to Empire, definitely not 500m. Anyway yr friend desperate or you? Tell you now economy gonna be worse until middle of next year, mini world war, pandemic and recession happening, those with cash will be in demand.
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which uni/college ? specifically which condo? there is one condo there got many Arabs one, I wont tell you which condo, pandai pandai cari cool2.gif

max_cavalera punya kawan lah, not mine.

what glomac station? I was talking about subang jaya lrt station, beside the komuter station. yes it is roughly 500 meters from subang parade.

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QUOTE(Jeebuy @ Jun 27 2022, 03:56 PM)
if the rents do not cover the mortgage payments also susah if one is holding a lot. assessment fees and maintenance can be jialat
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rough calculation ok

prop price rm700K
dp rm 70K
35 years
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roughly around rm 2.8K monthly payment excluding other fees, etc

so u think can give rent for rm3K or not 2 rooms condo 788 sqft? at this current punya climate

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 07:06 PM)
R231_SL65_AMG that SDP Aurora should be completed by next year, right?

crazy SDP went nuts with 22 storeys condo right in front of the SJ main road entrance. dunno whether they dwellers can stand with the noise coming from federal highway and komuter

starting from rm 769K for two rooms 788ft only! ( in 2019 )
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Topkek gila mia harga ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:47 PM)
Then ppl happily buy new launch sime darby isola la, what is that new condo beside tnb huge ass powerplant? Rm1000 per square foot bro…

Boleh pulak? :/

Sold out oso
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The one near substation is lot15
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 27 2022, 04:19 PM)
Subang wanna rent out, no better place than this one. But expensive la.

The Grand Subang Jaya SS15
017-299 7301
https://goo.gl/maps/A5jyrh9zE9Mwym3d7
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rm2K 2 rooms 2 baths 570 sqft for students / single working adults ok lah

makan transport dem easy
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 05:51 PM)
where go far one? 500 meters only from subang parade. walk a bit lah.

thing is boss, those who stays around there tends to drive their own cars

if can pay rental rm2K above do u think they will take lrt/komuter?

I am not kidding. they even parked their cars outside, then pdrm come saman cool2.gif
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Trust me, Malaysians won't even walk 100m away if it's for an LRT station.



QUOTE(party @ Jun 27 2022, 06:05 PM)
Msians current standard is 300m is far liao..best is walk 20m only
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Where can? 100m many will complain too difficult to walk.

QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 06:06 PM)
R231_SL65_AMG that SDP Aurora should be completed by next year, right?

crazy SDP went nuts with 22 storeys condo right in front of the SJ main road entrance. dunno whether they dwellers can stand with the noise coming from federal highway and komuter

starting from rm 769K for two rooms 788ft only! ( in 2019 )
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Yup, scheduled for Q2 VP.

Was considered a bargain considering how much Lot 15 sold.

Up until 3 weeks ago I was living at Cantara. SDP claimed it has fantastic sound proofing, when the show units were available, they said the actual units would be similar noise levels as the windows were that good.

Actuality? Can hear some noise from the LRT track especially at night and your windows are open. All day long can hear noise from NKVE especially the airbrake noises made by lorries. But the noisiest is the PPR scumbags and their modified Wiras or motorcycles. Can hear it all the way to the 18th floor.

Aurora will definitely be able to hear the traffic noise from Federal highway and the Kommuter trains. Heard the windows isn't the same as those used in Cantara or Lot 15 as well.

The jams on that road will be an absolute certainty.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:31 PM)
Ok cerita outskirt. What abiut Saujana Subang? Its beside Subang Parade, Empure Subang and Subang Jaya lrt station? Semua jalan kaki saja….

How?? Totally no appontment to view oso….
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Hahahaha

Sounds like you never been to that area

Only the most expat of expats would walk that distance to anything you mentioned
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 06:19 PM)
Topkek gila mia harga ohmy.gif
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when it comes to condo SDP memang syiok sendiri

see isola, lot 15, aurora enough lah

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 05:51 PM)
where go far one? 500 meters only from subang parade. walk a bit lah.

thing is boss, those who stays around there tends to drive their own cars

if can pay rental rm2K above do u think they will take lrt/komuter?

I am not kidding. they even parked their cars outside, then pdrm come saman cool2.gif
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500 meters straight line no obstacle? Maybe

But aint no sheltered straight line to walk to lrt subang jaya lol
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QUOTE(Intimidated @ Jun 27 2022, 06:25 PM)
500 meters straight line no obstacle? Maybe

But aint no sheltered straight line to walk to lrt subang jaya lol
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just behind AEON lah. the old komuter station u know right? just beside it

walk lah. sikit sikit mau sheltered , wont melt one lah if u walk under the sun.
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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Jun 27 2022, 06:24 PM)
Trust me, Malaysians won't even walk 100m away if it's for an LRT station.
Where can? 100m many will complain too difficult to walk.
Yup, scheduled for Q2 VP.

Was considered a bargain considering how much Lot 15 sold.

Up until 3 weeks ago I was living at Cantara. SDP claimed it has fantastic sound proofing, when the show units were available, they said the actual units would be similar noise levels as the windows were that good.

Actuality? Can hear some noise from the LRT track especially at night and your windows are open. All day long can hear noise from NKVE especially the airbrake noises made by lorries. But the noisiest is the PPR scumbags and their modified Wiras or motorcycles. Can hear it all the way to the 18th floor.

Aurora will definitely be able to hear the traffic noise from Federal highway and the Kommuter trains. Heard the windows isn't the same as those used in Cantara or Lot 15 as well.

The jams on that road will be an absolute certainty.
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if your Cantara also can hear all those kind of noises, imagine those dwellers at condos near the NKVE

btw Lot 15 1+1 bedroom 624 sqft selling from rm593K back in 2017. that is crazy pricing I tell you.


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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 27 2022, 05:20 PM)
Easiest and most proven way to regulate housing market is to control the loan terms. Just say mandatory 20% down, 25 year max loan tenure. Sure market prices crash and moderate.
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gomen+banks sudah pakat . they make $ over all these schemes
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 06:35 PM)
if your Cantara also can hear all those kind of noises, imagine those dwellers at condos near the NKVE

btw Lot 15 1+1 bedroom 624 sqft selling from rm593K back in 2017. that is crazy pricing I tell you.
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It was unfathomable just 10 years ago that people would pay a premium to live in something that had such a surrounding. HTC, TNB Transformer, KTM tracks and Federal Highway.

QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 06:37 PM)
gomen+banks sudah pakat . they make $ over all these schemes
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Yup, now its a political hot potato to interfere in the housing market. Plus must add the developers to the equation, so many of them are GLCs or gomen got shares in them.
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kalau keje grab panda shopee food ada berani ke nak bagi rental?
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Most won't.
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QUOTE(tkn0811 @ Jun 27 2022, 01:28 PM)
i am more worry about the people who owned properties at Bukit Beruntung and Lembah Beringin there...
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my mom have one. penyewa senang carik. nak untung sabgat xde la
tapi rumah cuma older x banyak masalah.
my mom rate sewa pjn also rm900
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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Jun 27 2022, 06:44 PM)
Most won't.
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seller vs buyer.

Sellers all looking at each other, together they wanted to sell what they believed is the market price.

Buyers got no money or not willing to pay that kind of money.

You can set 10m for your flat, but nobody will even take a look at your flat.
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QUOTE(party @ Jun 27 2022, 06:05 PM)
Msians current standard is 300m is far liao..best is walk 20m only
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I recall last time Singapore standard set that no hdb will be not more than 400 m walk from an mrt lrt station. Dunno whether that’s still true. But mostly there all have proper walk way and sheltered

For some cb Malaysians, 20 m also far. Must be right up to the door step or shop lot. Can’t even cross road.

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Owning a property today isn't what like what it used to be, owning properties is one thing, maintaining it is another thing, whether you can get tenants is another story, selling it is also another story and on top of that, we're saturated with housing projects, there's no guarantee that the area will develop even further and if that place ended up very prone to say flash floods then I wish you the best of luck, I own only a single unit apartment that's so effing small but was bought solely for the sake of owning one, I rent it out for a modest fee because I know it'll be damn hard to get tenants if I increase it even more and I still have to pay for the installments and with the current cost of living, I'm not even sure if I can maintain it in the future
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 06:18 PM)
rough calculation ok

prop price rm700K
dp rm 70K
35 years
IR 4.25

roughly around rm 2.8K monthly payment excluding other fees, etc

so u think can give rent for rm3K or not 2 rooms condo 788 sqft? at this current punya climate
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susah but possible, depending on area
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Too many units in the market nowadays, tenants spolt for choice when they can rent cheaper and newer units available
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unker tell u ope. secret from oddit days. by right if inventory hold long time no movement need to impairment. but mgmt will never agree to it. u can has old machinery sitting on shelf collect thick dust, even empty shoplots, buildings sitting there year after year still maintain same book value.

so as independent auditor it is up to u to justify why it is still worth that much. and it will always justiry becaus eend of day mgmt pays for opinion.
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Market value high but no buyer. Then that isn't the market value la. Just greedy.

You try sell roti canai RM 10 then say market value, con9firm kena slap upside down
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Then ppl happily buy new launch sime darby isola la, what is that new condo beside tnb huge ass powerplant? Rm1000 per square foot bro…

Boleh pulak? :/

Sold out oso
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QUOTE(poooky @ Jun 27 2022, 08:54 PM)
unker tell u ope. secret from oddit days. by right if inventory hold long time no movement need to impairment. but mgmt will never agree to it. u can has old machinery sitting on shelf collect thick dust, even empty shoplots, buildings sitting there year after year still maintain same book value.

so as independent auditor it is up to u to justify why it is still worth that much. and it will always justiry becaus eend of day mgmt pays for opinion.
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Dey thamby lu cerita macam lelated to biz running company…

Wini property bukan bzuiness woh ada audit2 bagai…

Kasi wallop u baru tau
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jun 27 2022, 09:03 PM)
Most pre 2019 1k psf is projectile for next cycle. If current gone upcar
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Ok ok unker jojolicious…

Thinking mbek maybe unker fren syiok sendiri mia valuation…

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QUOTE(poooky @ Jun 27 2022, 07:54 PM)
unker tell u ope. secret from oddit days. by right if inventory hold long time no movement need to impairment. but mgmt will never agree to it. u can has old machinery sitting on shelf collect thick dust, even empty shoplots, buildings sitting there year after year still maintain same book value.

so as independent auditor it is up to u to justify why it is still worth that much. and it will always justiry becaus eend of day mgmt pays for opinion.
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Mabuk?
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seems that these days prop that can make  money is only those right beside LRT/MRT. other than that u mmg gg lo
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Cheap/low/medium cost apartments can easily make money compared to those stupid waterfish that buy “luxury” condos. Those below 150k apartments/flats can just put in some second hand cheap furnitures, tutup mata rent out 800-1k per month and usually demand is high.
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10 yrs ago ok la... now flippers die kering kering...
now buy prop to stay not to invest.

10 years of financial apocalypse awaits us...
just ride it out...
clear all debts...
have energy and food independence...

stuptards will DIE...
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mora is ending soon yo

some are still paying half of their supposed mortgage payments

once normalized, plus BNM's pursuit to hike OPR back to 3.0%, that is when vultures are out with their cash to grab lelong props
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Mora hasn't ended?
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susah but possible, depending on area
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 27 2022, 08:06 PM)
Cheap/low/medium cost apartments can easily make money compared to those stupid waterfish that buy “luxury” condos. Those below 150k apartments/flats can just put in some second hand cheap furnitures, tutup mata rent out 800-1k per month and usually demand is high.
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This is true. My cheapest worthless low cost house has already earned more than its own value. My mid range landed making decent rental.

Ayam too poorfag to buy luxury condo and landed. Cukur.
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QUOTE(c64 @ Jun 27 2022, 09:37 PM)
This is true. My cheapest worthless low cost house has already earned more than its own value.  My mid range landed making decent rental.

Ayam too poorfag to buy luxury condo and landed. Cukur.
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Unker ppr left 64k loan pronciple to finish pay…

Hopefully unker can be like u debt free smile.gif
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Unker ppr left 64k loan pronciple to finish pay…

Hopefully unker can be like u debt free smile.gif
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Lucky she own KL properties...if in johor long time die already.

Forest city RF Country Garden half price also difficult to find buyer. Airbnb ads are everywhere
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QUOTE(gogocan @ Jun 27 2022, 08:51 PM)
Lucky she own KL properties...if in johor long time die already.

Forest city RF Country Garden half price also difficult to find buyer. Airbnb ads are everywhere
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Forest City becoming real forest soon. Lol
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There is some reason cannot sell because developer need to keep building to cover the loss during pandemic. Then market is overflow with unsell houses. After that inflation kick in and car is more demand now due to zero SST & house no longer priority. How long need to wait,? Good luck.

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Forest City becoming real forest soon. Lol
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QUOTE(c64 @ Jun 27 2022, 08:37 PM)
This is true. My cheapest worthless low cost house has already earned more than its own value.  My mid range landed making decent rental.

Ayam too poorfag to buy luxury condo and landed. Cukur.
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A lot of sohai “investors” got conned by those “gurus” so they end up buying these luxury condos for investment but most of them end up buying above 600k condo and renting it out for below 2k. Then pray and hope their prop price increase so they can sell for profit since they already making loss from the rental. Really sohai.

Property is either you buy cheap flat/apartment for rental investment or buy landed for price appreciation. Buy luxury condo rental already lose, want to hold and wait price appreciate, most condos that are more than 2 decade old price will fall because the facilities start to become dated and even if properly maintained it’s subject to wear and tear. So they wanna hold long term also GG.



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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Jun 27 2022, 01:27 PM)
Saujana Subang? consider one of the better condo wo.
infact looks affordable and very strategic.

a bit older compare to other new launch, but condition not bad ma, pretty well maintained.
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Because the condo got money from the LRT track. Just to put the track on their space for 2-3m cash from prasarana.
Alot of money for their maintenance and sinking fund.
Wanted to buy 2 years ago but 800k too exp. If I know it's friend I sapu already
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It depends on location, and future development.
No doubt many investors may not be making much and many making losses at this time.
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 27 2022, 09:15 PM)
A lot of sohai “investors” got conned by those “gurus” so they end up buying these luxury condos for investment but most of them end up buying above 600k condo and renting it out for below 2k. Then pray and hope their prop price increase so they can sell for profit since they already making loss from the rental. Really sohai.

Property is either you buy cheap flat/apartment for rental investment or buy landed for price appreciation. Buy luxury condo rental already lose, want to hold and wait price appreciate, most condos that are more than 2 decade old price will fall because the facilities start to become dated and even if properly maintained it’s subject to wear and tear. So they wanna hold long term also GG.
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pain in the ass if you wanna sell
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Even once a year change tenant you also gg.. agent earn only.
Contractor there to fix all your repairs.
Banker for the interest you pay to bank
Developer for the house they mark up and leave nothing for you to ROI..
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QUOTE(Jeebuy @ Jun 27 2022, 07:17 PM)
susah but possible, depending on area
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 27 2022, 08:15 PM)
3k for 700++ sq feet, except for KLCC anywhere else you will have a headache.
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rough calculation ok

prop price rm700K
dp rm 70K
35 years
IR 4.25

roughly around rm 2.8K monthly payment excluding other fees, etc

so u think can give rent for rm3K or not 788 sqft 2 rooms condo ? at this current punya climate

summore PLENTY of vacant units ( got several condo ) at that road alone

this figure is for SDP Aurora condo. that one right in from of the subang jaya corner entrance.

feast your eyes wahai dwellers with non stop jam towards the batu tiga toll + komuter singing every 30 minutes lol

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 10:10 PM)
rough calculation ok

prop price rm700K
dp rm 70K
35 years
IR 4.25

roughly around rm 2.8K monthly payment excluding other fees, etc

so u think can give rent for rm3K or not 788 sqft 2 rooms condo ? at this current punya climate

summore PLENTY of vacant units ( got several condo ) at that road alone

this figure is for SDP Aurora condo. that one right in from of the subang jaya corner entrance.

feast your eyes wahai dwellers with non stop jam towards the batu tiga toll + komuter singing every 30 minutes lol

user posted image
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Just like rolex
With maintenance cost
Pass on to charsiew later
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Can see so many hopeful hinting owners can dung lower selling price to meet affordability
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Every month I see new condo.
How the hell they build so fast?
How the simen can cure?
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more like 'financial assistance' from the banks where some are still enjoying reduced payments on their loans
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At the expense of incurring more interest add on
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Every month I see new condo.
How the hell they build so fast?
How the simen can cure?
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Mostly on modulars stack up. Only load bearings are high grade cast insitu. Scheme cepat kaya ma

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 10:10 PM)
rough calculation ok

prop price rm700K
dp rm 70K
35 years
IR 4.25

roughly around rm 2.8K monthly payment excluding other fees, etc

so u think can give rent for rm3K or not 788 sqft 2 rooms condo ? at this current punya climate

summore PLENTY of vacant units ( got several condo ) at that road alone

this figure is for SDP Aurora condo. that one right in from of the subang jaya corner entrance.

feast your eyes wahai dwellers with non stop jam towards the batu tiga toll + komuter singing every 30 minutes lol

user posted image
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Just like rolex
With maintenance cost
Pass on to charsiew later
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Excuse me?
Rolex got no cukai tanah and cukai pintu or maintenance fees to pay hor.
Plus no RPGT also

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which uni/college ? specifically which condo? there is one condo there got many Arabs one, I wont tell you which condo, pandai pandai cari  cool2.gif

max_cavalera punya kawan lah, not mine.

what glomac station? I was talking about subang jaya lrt station, beside the komuter station. yes it is roughly 500 meters from subang parade.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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Dubai 15 years already:

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600k can buy oldre mont kiara condo
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IF u work there

if u work around shah alam/subang/klang no point also
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

Mati owh
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Doesn't reflect true market value.

Maybe property valuer work together with property "investors" to jack up the price with their property "investors" friends for the targeted area?

Ok. Cant really speculate on this because valuers are private consultants with their own methodology to valuate the property prices.
but hey, if the banks trust the valuer's judgement, who are we to say no? then again, banks who gives out home loans are the beneficiaries when the prices are high.

can't believe this is still happening after so many years.

in the end, true home owner wannabe can't afford.

idk. just never a fan of property investment. a roof to stay under should be a basic human right. property should not be an instrument for investment.

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want near lrt buy near ss15 station better

subang jaya station really chaotic
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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Jun 27 2022, 11:05 PM)
Doesn't reflect true market value.

Maybe property valuer work together with property "investors" to jack up the price with their property "investors" friends for the targeted area?

Ok. Cant really speculate on this because valuers are private consultants with their own methodology to valuate the property prices.
but hey, if the banks trust the valuer's judgement, who are we to say no? then again, banks who gives out home loans are the beneficiaries when the prices are high.

can't believe this is still happening after so many years.

in the end, true home owner wannabe can't afford.

idk. just never a fan of property investment. a roof to stay under should be a basic human right. property should not be an instrument for investment.
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hah! this so reminds me of a conversation I had with a property agent many many years ago. I walked by their promo booth, and the guy stopped me and said that this place is really hot selling. I asked where, and he said, Cyberjaya. I said, a bit too the far out for me. And he replied, oh ppl buy to rent to ppl working or studying in CJ wan. They guarantee rental returns of xxx at least wan.

I was like. haaaaiiih... no thanks, I was looking for a place to stay then, not to rent out.

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600k too high. Subang some more. If buy near train station around 300 to 400 then it will be easier to exit.

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QUOTE(malleus @ Jun 27 2022, 11:28 PM)
hah! this so reminds me of a conversation I had with a property agent many many years ago. I walked by their promo booth, and the guy stopped me and said that this place is really hot selling. I asked where, and he said, Cyberjaya. I said, a bit too the far out for me. And he replied, oh ppl buy to rent to ppl working or studying in CJ wan. They guarantee rental returns of xxx at least wan.

I was like. haaaaiiih... no thanks, I was looking for a place to stay then, not to rent out.
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you can thank this dude for the problems today

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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Jun 27 2022, 11:05 PM)
Doesn't reflect true market value.

Maybe property valuer work together with property "investors" to jack up the price with their property "investors" friends for the targeted area?

Ok. Cant really speculate on this because valuers are private consultants with their own methodology to valuate the property prices.
but hey, if the banks trust the valuer's judgement, who are we to say no? then again, banks who gives out home loans are the beneficiaries when the prices are high.

can't believe this is still happening after so many years.

in the end, true home owner wannabe can't afford.

idk. just never a fan of property investment. a roof to stay under should be a basic human right. property should not be an instrument for investment.
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How many "investors" will pay stamp duty for the bloated value to be recorded? if valuers over stated the value is liable to compensate the bank for losses. hence, valuers mostly give conservative value in current market sentiment.

asking price is often syok sendiri, significantly higher than transacted price.

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Nowadays many young people waiting to move out of Malaysia. The market might be depressed for a good few years. Unless evergreen landed properties like BU, Bukit Jalil, Desa Parkcity, Bandar Tun Razak, OUG, Taman Desa, Robson Heights, Bukit Tungku, PJ then maybe still got market. Cyberjaya, Sendayan, Rawang, Shah Alam, USJ, Puchong a bit too far and oversupplied.
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One of the most successful con artist in modern time. those believe him is like believing 'harry potter' is factual and a real person.

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Beside empire shopping gallery subang?
Biar betul nobody wants.. that's prime area

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Yes its Prime area especially beside Federal Highway. Have u been there especially inside the unit? There u can hear 5 types of noise. KTM, MRT, Airplane, Vehicles n rempit highway racing and lastly ambulance sound everyday passing by. It can be heard frm the unit especially fronting the highway
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Sometimes I don’t understand with Malaysian mentality that so obsess purchased a property that walking distance to buy groceries etc and willing to sacrifice quality of life for long terms. Heavy noise pollution and others

I’ve been living in Selangor since I was born and I have zero interest living in this kind of environment

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condos/apartments are very hard to sell. the market is bad now. need some time to recover. if your friend every month can afford to pay loan then that's alright. if cannot tahan then unfortunately she have to sell it at a lower price
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 27 2022, 11:40 PM)
rough calculation ok

prop price rm700K
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roughly around rm 2.8K monthly payment excluding other fees, etc

so u think can give rent for rm3K or not 788 sqft 2 rooms condo ? at this current punya climate

summore PLENTY of vacant units ( got several condo ) at that road alone

this figure is for SDP Aurora condo. that one right in from of the subang jaya corner entrance.

feast your eyes wahai dwellers with non stop jam towards the batu tiga toll + komuter singing every 30 minutes lol

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Already now there are people holding either empty properties or having properties but their kids have no intention to live in Malaysia. The next generation will look to either sell or just leave it empty.
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Have price no market is syok sendiri price. If dropped by 30% see have demand or not.
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Yes just like forex and stock market

Asking sell 699k

Asking buy 299k

Ultra low liquidity

Let those owners keep dreaming
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Already now there are people holding either empty properties or having properties but their kids have no intention to live in Malaysia. The next generation will look to either sell or just leave it empty.
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Sometimes I don’t understand with Malaysian mentality that so obsess purchased a property that walking distance to buy groceries etc and willing to sacrifice quality of life for long terms. Heavy noise pollution and others

I’ve been living in Selangor since I was born and I have zero interest living in this kind of environment
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Already now there are people holding either empty properties or having properties but their kids have no intention to live in Malaysia. The next generation will look to either sell or just leave it empty.
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Lol..I know quite a number like them personally. They send their son and dotter overseas studies like Australia, UK, Canada, US etc. Once their kids graduated most of them do not have intention to come back to this shithole. They rather find job somewhere else
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Lol..I know quite a number like them personally. They send their son and dotter overseas studies like Australia, UK, Canada, US etc. Once their kids graduated most of them do not have intention to come back to this shithole. They rather find job somewhere else
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Even when I suggested that I want to get a property in Malaysia, I was discouraged from buying by parents and in laws. One can actually purchase a landed cash easily if husband wife both work 5 years overseas. That also we were told by our elders don't need to buy anymore. So I can imagine probably there might be oversupply in the future. After all, one just needed a roof to stay when old. Don't need many properties, because very troublesome to manage these and illiquid when need to sell. Better to just put money in EPF and collect dividends than taking such risks. Even better, just rent. Because it is hassle free and cheap if you have hard foreign currencies.

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you can thank this dude for the problems today

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As far as I know he says property which does not generate cash flow is liability. Even his book says that
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Cheap/low/medium cost apartments can easily make money compared to those stupid waterfish that buy “luxury” condos. Those below 150k apartments/flats can just put in some second hand cheap furnitures, tutup mata rent out 800-1k per month and usually demand is high.
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ur definition of medium cost? sub 500k? what do you consider as "luxury""?

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ur definition of medium cost? sub 500k? what do you consider as "luxury""?
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Ideally go for props 200k and below. The ones where 1k rental can cover your installment. So it’s easy to get tenant and rent out.
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Ideally go for props 200k and below. The ones where 1k rental can cover your installment. So it’s easy to get tenant and rent out.
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There are pros and cons to less than 200k investment.

You deal with lower income people and lots of drama from tenants and issues with the unit and it's dwellers.. Which then snowballs to shitty living environment causing ur tenant to move out and story repeats.

1 is manageable but imagine u have a dozen of em. Hire property management is going to eat into your profits.

I still remember my tenant no pay 2 months, go see unit kena yellow tape from police and nobody not even management bother to inform. Then can't rent out until police finish investigating.

Damn tired la all these drama
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200k in KV is pretty shit-hole and u can’t expect much decent tenants …

Some of my friends got this kinda lots with screw-up tenants …lolx
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QUOTE(teslaman @ Jun 28 2022, 12:32 AM)
Yes just like forex and stock market

Asking sell 699k

Asking buy 299k

Ultra low liquidity

Let those owners keep dreaming
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There are pros and cons to less than 200k investment.

You deal with lower income people and lots of drama from tenants and issues with the unit and it's dwellers.. Which then snowballs to shitty living environment causing ur tenant to move out and story repeats.

1 is manageable but imagine u have a dozen of em. Hire property management is going to eat into your profits.

I still remember my tenant no pay 2 months, go see unit kena yellow tape from police and nobody not even management bother to inform. Then can't rent out until police  finish investigating.

Damn tired la all these drama
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200k just buy REITS. Why wanna suffer?
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property investment is not a good investment now as many new prop coming up very fast.
in Penang, many house, apartment and condo are empty.
many think prop is good investment but now end up struggling to pay installment due more supply than demand.
right now, i thinking my house as long term investment for my kid future.
it not going to be short term investment where can reap profit within 3-4 years.
as long as my rent able to cover half my loan, i think it is sufficient for now. sad.gif

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Your friend's house market value is like Bitcoin market value also, all claim high - high but all are syok sendiri punya claim only. It'll only worth that much when there are water fish willing to pay it.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 27 2022, 01:22 PM)
One of my female fren really kecian….

Own a condo in Saujana Subang. Beside Empire.

Got market value. Rm600k+…

But have been listing to sell the past 2 years+….

No buyer…not even appointment to view the unit.

Market value so high but no market to sell…

Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

Try to rent out… oso almost 7-8 months kosong no viewer come view.

A higher class condo beside her apartment previously selling rm550-650k 1300-1500sqft owner oso buang harga to rent out.

Dulu suppose rm2.4k per mth rent and above now rm1.3-1.4k oso sanggup partial furnish…high class looking condo ohmy.gif

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Ideally go for props 200k and below. The ones where 1k rental can cover your installment. So it’s easy to get tenant and rent out.
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Sub 200k property, enlighten me. i assume is flat and outskirt.

A sub 200k flat location far out still command rental catchment? Why would one want to rent so far out



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There are pros and cons to less than 200k investment.

You deal with lower income people and lots of drama from tenants and issues with the unit and it's dwellers.. Which then snowballs to shitty living environment causing ur tenant to move out and story repeats.

1 is manageable but imagine u have a dozen of em. Hire property management is going to eat into your profits.

I still remember my tenant no pay 2 months, go see unit kena yellow tape from police and nobody not even management bother to inform. Then can't rent out until police  finish investigating.

Damn tired la all these drama
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With these low income groups need to screen properly. Usually I go for families with young kids. They tend to be better paymasters from what I’ve experienced.

QUOTE(swanlover @ Jun 28 2022, 10:06 AM)
200k in KV is pretty shit-hole and u can’t expect much decent tenants …

Some of my friends got this kinda lots with screw-up tenants …lolx
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200k prop you memang have to do proper screening. Actually a lot of good tenants that can only afford this kinda places, not everyone poor is bad. Just avoid rempits.
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How many "investors" will pay stamp duty for the bloated value to be recorded? if valuers over stated the value is liable to compensate the bank for losses. hence, valuers mostly give conservative value in current market sentiment.

asking price is often syok sendiri, significantly higher than transacted price.
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The effective cost for stamp duty+ S&P, Loan agreement, for RM1mil property is say 4.5%, these "investors" margin target is way higher than 4.5%....
They play the long game. The group probably owns 10 or 20 units in a targeted area. They just need to flip 5 or 6 units among their circle to make a mark on the recent transacted amount.

Property Valuer will appraise the the property based on recent transacted amount within the area and bake in the maximum error margin. Just like that, the rest 15 units of their property price hike.

I'm not so sure whether property valuer negligence is liable to compensate the Malaysia banks. Has it been tested in court?

Yes, valuer do give conservative valuation based on market sentiment.. But what about when the market is skewed by these so called "investors" by doing above?

What processes do valuers include in their methodology to minimize the effect of market skew and give a honest and fair valuation?


In the end of the day, money talks.

property buyers goes to the bank to get the highest amount of loan. bank are incentivized to give out larger amount of loan. banker sends out valuation request to the list of valuers. valuer who gives the highest valuation will be given the job.

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jun 28 2022, 10:36 AM)
Sub 200k property, enlighten me. i assume is flat and outskirt.

A sub 200k flat location far out still command rental catchment? Why would one want to rent so far out
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No one ask you buy far out ulu places. There are a lot of low cost flats and apartments in KV in that price range. Otherwise where you think all the b40 that work in KL lives?

Outskirts wise choose those that are nearby industrial areas, people who work there would want to live nearby. Whole unit even the shittiest flat/apartment usually won’t be less than Rm800 if fully furnished, even those in outskirt places like bukit jelutong, kg subang, puchong etc.
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ur definition of medium cost? sub 500k? what do you consider as "luxury""?
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Don’t need to care whether it’s medium cost or luxury.

The key is properties above RM600-800k are not accessible to B70. And T30 unlikely to look for properties in that price range either.
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No one ask you buy far out ulu places. There are a lot of low cost flats and apartments in KV in that price range. Otherwise where you think all the b40 that work in KL lives?

Outskirts wise choose those that are nearby industrial areas, people who work there would want to live nearby. Whole unit even the shittiest flat/apartment usually won’t be less than Rm800 if fully furnished, even those in outskirt places like bukit jelutong, kg subang, puchong etc.
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<There are a lot of low cost flats and apartments in KV in that price range. Otherwise where you think all the b40 that work in KL lives?>

Are you referring sub200, the likes of San Peng flats, likes of low cost dbkl apartment blocks at bandar baru sentul, miharja blocks, jln ipoh, jln kuching north apartments, blocks that goes by state name etc etc?

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jun 28 2022, 11:16 AM)
<There are a lot of low cost flats and apartments in KV in that price range. Otherwise where you think all the b40 that work in KL lives?>

Are you referring the likes of San Peng flats, likes of low cost dbkl apartment blocks at bandar baru sentul, miharja blocks, jln ipoh, jln kuching north apartments, blocks that goes by state name etc etc?
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Dbkl flats are out of the question, don’t think you can simply buy those but yes those like the ones in Miharja, jalan ipoh, jalan kuching, segambut, bangsar, kerinchi/Pantai dalam if it’s near KL.

I know a lot of people scared of bad tenant but as long as you screen properly then you can avoid it. Plus bad tenants are not only those that rent cheap flats/apartments, even condos got bad tenant. At least if you get a bad tenant in a sub 200k flat/apartment the most you lose is around 1k a month plus the super cheap (usually below Rm100) maintenance fees. Those 600k condo you prepare lose 3k every month plus 500++ maintenance la. Might as well get 3 low cost units, based on probability getting bad tenants for all 3 units would be lesser.
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QUOTE(msacras @ Jun 28 2022, 10:46 AM)
Don’t need to care whether it’s medium cost or luxury.

The key is properties above RM600-800k are not accessible to B70. And T30 unlikely to look for properties in that price range either.
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Actually the bottom half of T30 would go for props in that price range but they never go for subsale condos in that price range. Either they go for new development which has lower or zero entry cost or go for subsale landed. There are so many choices in the 600-800k range, why would they choose some second hand subsale condo?
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here a tiny violin for flippers. i have zero empathy for people who profit but adding zero value (even negative) to the economy.
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topkek u ask ur fren for the unit key, then u stay there for a week, dont ever go out from the house

either the komuter noise will kill you or the federal highway noise . u choose lah.

subang olives, isola, empire soho, saujana residency, subang avenue, casa tiara till lot 15, all these if got unit facing komuter/federal highway really GG
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I lived in my friend's Casa Tiara apartment for a few months a few years back... I also used to live in Sauja Subang for a couple of days quite some years ago...

In terms of noise... it really depends on where the apartment is facing....


From my experience... saujana is really noisy because it is directly facing/too near to the station and highway.... I can't imagine that new Aurora... which is just beside the ramp and main road turning up to subang will feel...


Casa Tiara on the other hand.... my friend's unit was facing the highway and lower floor... it is surprisingly quiet... maybe because of the distance and layer of obstacles infront absorbing the noise.... higher floor seems to be a bit more noisy though.... the one facing the city is very noisy cause the main road is just right in front and it is often quite a busy road...


I've always said subang is overpriced.... but recently it had turned into city status and SDP trying to make SS16 SJCC and TOD .... if the land in front of the LRT is used to build something that could revive the place... who knows... it might be the next Sunway Pyramid and property prices around there might go up even further...

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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Jun 28 2022, 10:45 AM)
The effective cost for stamp duty+ S&P, Loan agreement, for RM1mil property is say 4.5%, these "investors" margin target is way higher than 4.5%....
They play the long game. The group probably owns 10 or 20 units in a targeted area. They just need to flip 5 or 6 units among their circle to make a mark on the recent transacted amount.

Property Valuer will appraise the the property based on recent transacted amount within the area and bake in the maximum error margin. Just like that, the rest 15 units of their property price hike.

I'm not so sure whether property valuer negligence is liable to compensate the Malaysia banks. Has it been tested in court?

Yes, valuer do give conservative valuation based on market sentiment.. But what about when the market is skewed by these so called "investors" by doing above?

What processes do valuers include in their methodology to minimize the effect of market skew and give a honest and fair valuation?
In the end of the day, money talks.

property buyers goes to the bank to get the highest amount of loan. bank are incentivized to give out larger amount of loan. banker sends out valuation request to the list of valuers. valuer who gives the highest valuation will be given the job.
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besides stamp duty, 'vendors' need also pay rpgt if applicable. except developers, few investor is willing to push price up single handedly in current market sentiment.

yes, many valuers are blacklisted by banks for given excessively high valuation. valuers are bound by 'the Valuers, Appraisers and Estate Agents Act 1981' and various rules. during bull run, valuers has low risk to give high valuation, many played this game but not under current market sentiment.

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200k just buy REITS. Why wanna suffer?
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I used to stay there after married. Moved after 2nd kid born for bigger space.

Bought 130k now renting 1.1k fully furnished.

What's REITS return pa? If good i will liquidate and switch


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200k just buy REITS. Why wanna suffer?
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Most novices bought poorperly because low entry cost and high leverage.

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same road, near empire

u can see the construction site

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QUOTE(jimmyktp @ Jun 28 2022, 01:58 AM)
Even when I suggested that I want to get a property in Malaysia, I was discouraged from buying by parents and in laws. One can actually purchase a landed cash easily if husband wife both work 5 years overseas. That also we were told by our elders don't need to buy anymore. So I can imagine probably there might be oversupply in the future. After all, one just needed a roof to stay when old. Don't need many properties, because very troublesome to manage these and illiquid when need to sell. Better to just put money in EPF and collect dividends than taking such risks. Even better, just rent. Because it is hassle free and cheap if you have hard foreign currencies.
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Sub 200k property, enlighten me. i assume is flat and outskirt.

A sub 200k flat location far out still command rental catchment? Why would one want to rent so far out
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tbh there are plenty of flat around KV that is under rm200K. even in usj. can rent out for rm800 onwards

but thing is, are you prepare to deal with the "tenants" ? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 28 2022, 11:22 AM)
Dbkl flats are out of the question, don’t think you can simply buy those but yes those like the ones in Miharja, jalan ipoh, jalan kuching, segambut, bangsar, kerinchi/Pantai dalam if it’s near KL.

I know a lot of people scared of bad tenant but as long as you screen properly then you can avoid it. Plus bad tenants are not only those that rent cheap flats/apartments, even condos got bad tenant. At least if you get a bad tenant in a sub 200k flat/apartment the most you lose is around 1k a month plus the super cheap (usually below Rm100) maintenance fees. Those 600k condo you prepare lose 3k every month plus 500++ maintenance la. Might as well get 3 low cost units, based on probability getting bad tenants for all 3 units would be lesser.
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well said.worse come to worst it is way easier to ditch 3 units low cost flat rather than rm600K condo
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 28 2022, 11:25 AM)
Actually the bottom half of T30 would go for props in that price range but they never go for subsale condos in that price range. Either they go for new development which has lower or zero entry cost or go for subsale landed. There are so many choices in the 600-800k range, why would they choose some second hand subsale condo?
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talking about subsale condo, at one point I was considering Seri Duta 2. it is a secluded condo but wife dont like the roads dry.gif

maybe I can persuade her by next year since that day she said she fed up already with subang

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 28 2022, 07:07 PM)
tbh there are plenty of flat around KV that is under rm200K. even in usj. can rent out for rm800 onwards

but thing is, are you prepare to deal with the "tenants" ?  cool2.gif
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My calibration meter is telling me, i ain't gonna expose myself to be mind fcuked by 4 possible tenantsx800 over 1tenantx3200 rental yield.

Rental yield comes /w property upkeeping cost, that manner is surely not viable
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jun 28 2022, 11:44 AM)
I lived in my friend's Casa Tiara apartment for a few months a few years back... I also used to live in Sauja Subang for a couple of days quite some years ago...

In terms of noise... it really depends on where the apartment is facing....
From my experience... saujana is really noisy because it is directly facing/too near to the station and highway.... I can't imagine that new Aurora... which is just beside the ramp and main road turning up to subang will feel...
Casa Tiara on the other hand.... my friend's unit was facing the highway and lower floor... it is surprisingly quiet... maybe because of the distance and layer of obstacles infront absorbing the noise.... higher floor seems to be a bit more noisy though.... the one facing the city is very noisy cause the main road is just right in front and it is often quite a busy road...
I've always said subang is overpriced.... but recently it had turned into city status and SDP trying to make SS16 SJCC and TOD .... if the land in front of the LRT is used to build something that could revive the place... who knows... it might be the next Sunway Pyramid and property prices around there might go up even further...
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for casa tiara/subang avenue/lot 15, the units facing ss15 consider ok now . traffic also kinda light these days.

that aurora/isola/empire soho/saujana residency mmg GG lah

u mean the land plot beside toyota showroom now? oh please lah not another condo/office/mall 3 in 1 shit again. how many of these 3 in 1 that we really need now?
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So what's those control market one planning?
With this situation
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 28 2022, 08:35 PM)
for casa tiara/subang avenue/lot 15, the units facing ss15 consider ok now . traffic also kinda light these days.

that aurora/isola/empire soho/saujana residency mmg GG lah

u mean the land plot beside toyota showroom now? oh please lah not another condo/office/mall 3 in 1 shit again. how many of these 3 in 1 that we really need now?
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Btw itu Subang Parade gg man…

Few days ago entry parking all kong…kenot go in mall park…

Also most of their lift all kong out of service…

Same with their escalator as well…almost all kong no maintenance…

What happened??? ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 28 2022, 07:38 PM)
Btw itu Subang Parade gg man…

Few days ago entry parking all kong…kenot go in mall park…

Also most of their lift all kong out of service…

Same with their escalator as well…almost all kong no maintenance…

What happened??? ohmy.gif
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those escalators already UNDER MAINTENANCE for so many months already. the one near tealive , baskin robbins and starbucks all konk. elevator also like you said, out of service. the bubble lift near Parkson also for YEARS out of service already

I think the management skip duit maintenance ask the visitors to jalan kaki more


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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 28 2022, 08:43 PM)
those escalators already UNDER MAINTENANCE for so many months already. the one near tealive , baskin robbins and starbucks all konk. elevator also like you said, out of service. the bubble lift near Parkson also for YEARS out of service already

I think the management skip duit maintenance ask the visitors to jalan kaki more
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Landed > Condo
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condo is a nightmare!!

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jun 28 2022, 08:47 PM)
yeah.... when i want to buy property, for living or investment. I will go for landed.

condo is a nightmare!!
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 28 2022, 07:35 PM)
for casa tiara/subang avenue/lot 15, the units facing ss15 consider ok now . traffic also kinda light these days.

that aurora/isola/empire soho/saujana residency mmg GG lah

u mean the land plot beside toyota showroom now? oh please lah not another condo/office/mall 3 in 1 shit again. how many of these 3 in 1 that we really need now?
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nah man... still very noisy facing ss 15 esp after mco... facing glenmarie/highway (for the casa tiara row of buildings) is much much better...

no.. not the land beside toyota... that one very likely to be another service apartment... the one near the driving range also likely to be more service apartments...

the long stretch of land infront LRT... hopefully they build something interesting...

based on the older architect sketches... they were planning to make some mixed development... with commercial + shops + an open plaza quare/park right infront of the LRT... make sense since that is basically what TOD means...

just scare they use that plot of land senselessly and add more SOHO or Residential..... trying to bank on existing amenities... which we all know not very attractive with a dying family mall and a somewhat decent lifestyle mall.... overall SS16 lacks entertainment and eateries...

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Kasi chan to property agents la guys...

Go see Property Talk tereds, agents so desperate that they need to regularly create dupes and open tereds asking "Anyone heard of this XYZ project coming in ABC area? Saw the signboard, very curious" kinda shit laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Just a matter of time before they develop the driving range land, opposite the range and the car park next to Toyota.

Not much of freehold land left in Subang anymore.
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you all look at Chinese population growth rate, its not climbing as fast as they build the condos la .

i am not racist but i presumed chinese prefer all this crowded area condo, i dont know why.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 28 2022, 07:28 PM)
talking about subsale condo, at one point I was considering Seri Duta 2. it is a secluded condo but wife dont like the roads  dry.gif

maybe I can persuade her by next year since that day she said she fed up already with subang
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Does you wife go out a lot? If she does I can understand why she might not like it 😂

Seri Duta 2 is a really nice condo though. They just don’t really make those type of resort concept condo much nowadays. Everything is too “smart” concept.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 28 2022, 07:28 PM)
talking about subsale condo, at one point I was considering Seri Duta 2. it is a secluded condo but wife dont like the roads  dry.gif

maybe I can persuade her by next year since that day she said she fed up already with subang
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SD2 is a really nice place. Low density, quite and surprisingly for a building in Malaysia very well built.

Used to be either White expats or some Dato’s amoi mistress.

Heard these days most of it empty and rental rates gone down by a lot.


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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jun 28 2022, 08:28 PM)
nah man... still very noisy facing ss 15 esp after mco... facing glenmarie/highway (for the casa tiara row of buildings) is much much better...

no.. not the land beside toyota... that one very likely to be another service apartment... the one near the driving range also likely to be more service apartments...

the long stretch of land infront LRT... hopefully they build something interesting...

based on the older architect sketches... they were planning to make some mixed development... with commercial + shops + an open plaza quare/park right infront of the LRT... make sense since that is basically what TOD means...

just scare they use that plot of land senselessly and add more SOHO or Residential..... trying to bank on existing amenities... which we all know not very attractive with a dying family mall and a somewhat decent lifestyle mall.... overall SS16 lacks entertainment and eateries...
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most likely another boutique condo / DTO

eateries? just walk to SS15 lah. not that far what.
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 28 2022, 09:12 PM)
Does you wife go out a lot? If she does I can understand why she might not like it 😂

Seri Duta 2 is a really nice condo though. They just don’t really make those type of resort concept condo much nowadays. Everything is too “smart” concept.
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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Jun 28 2022, 09:37 PM)
SD2 is a really nice place. Low density, quite and surprisingly for a building in Malaysia very well built.

Used to be either White expats or some Dato’s amoi mistress.

Heard these days most of it empty and rental rates gone down by a lot.
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she didnt like staying at condo idea yet

it was built by Amcorp. real nice 90s condo tbh.

but the SD1 got problem a bit



rental rates gone down a lot. same goes for the price tag
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 28 2022, 11:46 PM)
most likely another boutique condo / DTO

eateries? just walk to SS15 lah. not that far what.
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Makes no sense to build residential right in front of the LRT station... but who knows though... SDP so called "TOD" could literally be just residential relying on all the dying amenities...


Personally... I'd still think that they would still go ahead with a mixed development like what they planned before... just hope they don't focus too much on SOHO or residential... best is non at all... and focus more on commercial/entertainment...


SS15 eateries are all low class local food stalls....


like I mentioned... the thing that is missing in SS16/1 compared to sunway pyramid is the high-end food stores and entertainment...


density is there already... just need to pull the traffic back to the area...
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jun 29 2022, 12:01 AM)
Makes no sense to build residential right in front of the LRT station... but who knows though... SDP so called "TOD" could literally be just residential relying on all the dying amenities...
Personally... I'd still think that they would still go ahead with a mixed development like what they planned before... just hope they don't focus too much on SOHO or residential... best is non at all... and focus more on commercial/entertainment...
SS15 eateries are all low class local food stalls....
like I mentioned... the thing that is missing in SS16/1 compared to sunway pyramid is the high-end food stores and entertainment...
density is there already... just need to pull the traffic back to the area...
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if you are hoping that area can be like Publika area , well... kinda hard lah

see the crowds now also like... meh?

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 28 2022, 11:59 PM)
she didnt like staying at condo idea yet

it was built by Amcorp. real nice 90s condo tbh.

but the SD1 got problem a bit



rental rates gone down a lot. same goes for the price tag
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90s era condos were well designed and built. Another good one to get from the 90s is Astana Damansara but must get those away from the Sprint Highway.

These days no such thing as a sub sale condo that hasn’t gone down in price for both rental and sale price. Anyone that says otherwise is either a REN or a speculator.

The only real good property investments these days are REITs anything else better keep money in EPF or FD.


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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Jun 29 2022, 12:13 AM)
90s era condos were well designed and built. Another good one to get from the 90s is Astana Damansara but must get those away from the Sprint Highway.

These days no such thing as a sub sale condo that hasn’t gone down in price for both rental and sale price. Anyone that says otherwise is either a REN or a speculator.

The only real good property investments these days are REITs anything else better keep money in EPF or FD.
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Astana Damansara is not bad. But I try to stay away from hectic place if possible.

Somehow I just had enough with PH
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 29 2022, 12:21 AM)
Astana Damansara is not bad. But I try to stay away from hectic place if possible.

Somehow I just had enough with PH
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PH getting congested indeed.

Was looking at Glades but decided to give it a pass as too far away from all the places I normally go to.

Where do you have your sights on?


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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Jun 29 2022, 12:13 AM)
90s era condos were well designed and built. Another good one to get from the 90s is Astana Damansara but must get those away from the Sprint Highway.

These days no such thing as a sub sale condo that hasn’t gone down in price for both rental and sale price. Anyone that says otherwise is either a REN or a speculator.

The only real good property investments these days are REITs anything else better keep money in EPF or FD.
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there were ALOT smaller. just look at any older condo vs the new monstrosities. even "low density" projects these days dwarf the size of those older condos. I remember desa Kiara (the one facing the islamic cemetary at damansara Kim) used to be consider very dense when it was new....lol. now when you see it against the background all the new condos make it look tiny.
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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Jun 29 2022, 12:35 AM)
PH getting congested indeed.

Was looking at Glades but decided to give it a pass as too far away from all the places I normally go to.

Where do you have your sights on?
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TBH I wish I could drop everything and move somewhere with lots of greens. I am just fed up with all these traffics .

Maybe I need a long holiday cool2.gif

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 29 2022, 12:39 AM)
there were ALOT smaller. just look at any older condo vs the new monstrosities. even "low density" projects these days dwarf the size of those older condos. I remember desa Kiara (the one facing the islamic cemetary at damansara Kim) used to be consider very dense when it was new....lol. now when you see it against the background all the new condos make it look tiny.
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Yes the land code and housing policies changed, began with dbkl allowing the plot ratio to balloon and also allowed residential structures to be built on commercial land.

Then came the property bubble that developers no longer cared about the brand of their development just build cramp in as many units as possible because most would be bought up by speculators anyway.

That’s why now we have behemoth sized developments that even after 5 years it hasn’t even reached 70% occupancy rate.


QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 29 2022, 12:43 AM)
TBH I wish I could drop everything and move somewhere with lots of greens. I am just fed up with all these traffics .

Maybe I need a long holiday  cool2.gif

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Tbh the 3 things that riles me up about this country the most are :-

The traffic, becoming as bad as Indonesia

The crowds, seems everywhere is densely packed.

The politics, it’s either frogs, toxic shit, 3R or bumfucks.

One reason why I enjoy spending time in Thailand, don’t understand Thai and makes it easy to blank out anything political.

Places with lots of greens has its own problems too. Not worth moving to outskirts any longer in this country unless you’re a born and raised farmer.

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Got another cheaper 1k sqft condo in outskirt KV…

Want to sell rm290-300k oso krik krik totally no prospect come view…

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 29 2022, 12:11 AM)
if you are hoping that area can be like Publika area , well... kinda hard lah

see the crowds now also like... meh?
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well who knows what the future holds...

to me... the density is there... just lacking attractions...
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 28 2022, 11:59 PM)
she didnt like staying at condo idea yet

it was built by Amcorp. real nice 90s condo tbh.

but the SD1 got problem a bit



rental rates gone down a lot. same goes for the price tag
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SD1 had landslide issues but so far SD2 has none. Hope it stays that way coz it’s a really nice condo tbh.

QUOTE(holypredator @ Jun 29 2022, 12:01 AM)
Makes no sense to build residential right in front of the LRT station... but who knows though... SDP so called "TOD" could literally be just residential relying on all the dying amenities...
Personally... I'd still think that they would still go ahead with a mixed development like what they planned before... just hope they don't focus too much on SOHO or residential... best is non at all... and focus more on commercial/entertainment...
SS15 eateries are all low class local food stalls....
like I mentioned... the thing that is missing in SS16/1 compared to sunway pyramid is the high-end food stores and entertainment...
density is there already... just need to pull the traffic back to the area...
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I’m not sure if high end food stalls would fare well at SS15. The crowd around there are still mainly students and not many will frequent high class eateries. For the adults, I think the difficulty in finding parking around the area would be a turn off to specifically go to a high end eatery in ss15 even if they had one. Having some entertainment outlets might help though it should also be an affordable one to attract students.


QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 29 2022, 12:43 AM)
TBH I wish I could drop everything and move somewhere with lots of greens. I am just fed up with all these traffics .

Maybe I need a long holiday  cool2.gif

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There are a lot of areas with pockets of greens around KL if you want some peace but mostly still need to face the jam when you go out la. Haha

QUOTE(holypredator @ Jun 29 2022, 01:29 AM)
well who knows what the future holds...

to me... the density is there... just lacking attractions...
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What kind of attraction you want? Another mall?
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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Jun 29 2022, 01:10 AM)
Yes the land code and housing policies changed, began with dbkl allowing the plot ratio to balloon and also allowed residential structures to be built on commercial land.

Then came the property bubble that developers no longer cared about the brand of their development just build cramp in as many units as possible because most would be bought up by speculators anyway.

That’s why now we have behemoth sized developments that even after 5 years it hasn’t even reached 70% occupancy rate.
Tbh the 3 things that riles me up about this country the most are :-

The traffic, becoming as bad as Indonesia

The crowds, seems everywhere is densely packed.

The politics, it’s either frogs, toxic shit, 3R or bumfucks.

One reason why I enjoy spending time in Thailand, don’t understand Thai and makes it easy to blank out anything political.

Places with lots of greens has its own problems too. Not worth moving to outskirts any longer in this country unless you’re a born and raised farmer.
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Agree, service apartments on commercial land is the game changer
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 29 2022, 12:43 AM)
TBH I wish I could drop everything and move somewhere with lots of greens. I am just fed up with all these traffics .

Maybe I need a long holiday  cool2.gif

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Lots of green. Live in a governance where one needs a permit to even prune a tree. Tress must be transplanted if its space is needed.

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 29 2022, 12:43 AM)
TBH I wish I could drop everything and move somewhere with lots of greens. I am just fed up with all these traffics .

Maybe I need a long holiday  cool2.gif

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lots of green?
Amazon Rainforest?
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well who knows what the future holds...

to me... the density is there... just lacking attractions...
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got a unit there eh?

that place still got plenty of arabs now?
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 29 2022, 07:52 AM)
SD1 had landslide issues but so far SD2 has none. Hope it stays that way coz it’s a really nice condo tbh.
I’m not sure if high end food stalls would fare well at SS15. The crowd around there are still mainly students and not many will frequent high class eateries. For the adults, I think the difficulty in finding parking around the area would be a turn off to specifically go to a high end eatery in ss15 even if they had one. Having some entertainment outlets might help though it should also be an affordable one to attract students.
There are a lot of areas with pockets of greens around KL if you want some peace but mostly still need to face the jam when you go out la. Haha
What kind of attraction you want? Another mall?
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Yup SD2 is a nice play to stay.

SS15 actually got quite a good number of good place to lepak and hang out with friends, this place is definitely for students and working adults.

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lots of green?
Amazon Rainforest?
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topkek big boss your bungalow in Melawati got surrounding forest lah.

dont pijak peasant like me please.
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topkek big boss your bungalow in Melawati got surrounding forest lah.

dont pijak peasant like me please.
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You should check out taman TAR.

Less hectic than Bangsar or ttdi but still jam to get to anywhere.

Nice neighbourhood though.
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post Jun 29 2022, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 29 2022, 07:52 AM)
SD1 had landslide issues but so far SD2 has none. Hope it stays that way coz it’s a really nice condo tbh.
I’m not sure if high end food stalls would fare well at SS15. The crowd around there are still mainly students and not many will frequent high class eateries. For the adults, I think the difficulty in finding parking around the area would be a turn off to specifically go to a high end eatery in ss15 even if they had one. Having some entertainment outlets might help though it should also be an affordable one to attract students.
There are a lot of areas with pockets of greens around KL if you want some peace but mostly still need to face the jam when you go out la. Haha
What kind of attraction you want? Another mall?
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not SS15 ... SS16/1..
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 29 2022, 11:35 AM)
got a unit there eh?

that place still got plenty of arabs now?
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no...not a subang person...

but frequently travel around that area and sunway....prefer being around that location than pavilion or mid valley...

hence if there is new development around SJCC.... I am all for it.... new place to visit... possibly split the traffic between sunway pyramid and SJCC so don't have to worry no parking at sunway pyramid after 12...

seriously though.... you can consider that entire area... sunway up till USJ.... to be very dense.... the only thing is... people are flocking to sunway pyramid only cause it has everything there....

If SJCC does well.. I bet many subang and USJ people would just travel over to SJCC instead of going all the way to sunway pyramid.... that way I could go to either one without worrying about the crowd or parking... brows.gif brows.gif

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I think not many plp can selectively buy some 200k shithole in KV, screening and maintaining by urself..far too time consuming

Unless u are retiree or semi- retiree..lolx
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QUOTE(swanlover @ Jun 29 2022, 02:39 PM)
I think not many plp can selectively buy some 200k shithole in KV, screening and maintaining by urself..far too time consuming

Unless u are retiree or semi- retiree..lolx
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An emotionally draining exercise to deal with that grade of tenants by yourself, not to mention dangerous too dealing with people that generally have nothing in life to lose.
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My relative sold apartment in KV for 5k loss compared to the price she bought.

This fucking bubble has been running for too long.
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jun 29 2022, 02:26 PM)
no...not a subang person...

but frequently travel around that area and sunway....prefer being around that location than pavilion or mid valley...

hence if there is new development around SJCC.... I am all for it.... new place to visit... possibly split the traffic between sunway pyramid and SJCC so don't have to worry no parking at sunway pyramid after 12...

seriously though.... you can consider that entire area... sunway up till USJ.... to be very dense.... the only thing is... people are flocking to sunway pyramid only cause it has everything there....

If SJCC does well.. I bet many subang and USJ people would just travel over to SJCC instead of going all the way to sunway pyramid.... that way I could go to either one without worrying about the crowd or parking... brows.gif  brows.gif
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you just cant beat Sunway Pyramid. almost everything under one roof. and the management is smart enough to do some renovation/enhancement every now and then

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QUOTE(R231_SL65_AMG @ Jun 29 2022, 02:50 PM)
An emotionally draining exercise to deal with that grade of tenants by yourself, not to mention dangerous too dealing with people that generally have nothing in life to lose.
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True indeed

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QUOTE(empstar2 @ Jun 27 2022, 04:42 PM)
Die flipper die
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 29 2022, 06:54 PM)
you just cant beat Sunway Pyramid. almost everything under one roof. and the management is smart enough to do some renovation/enhancement every now and then
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Sunway is very strict on their mall tenants, every 3-5 years you must refresh your shop or say goodbye to your tenancy.



QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 29 2022, 06:55 PM)
True indeed
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But that segment generally delivers the best yields.



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