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 Gempar: Pemudi terkejut sewa rumah ikut bangsa, hmm...

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post Jun 17 2022, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Jun 17 2022, 01:49 PM)
Tell us about it few months later
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hope no problem,.. my profile analyse is this,... for small family, factor of irresponsibility risk is lower,... if bunch of bachelors or for workers,.. confirm reject,.. .

2ndly,.. long distance lorry driver salary actually quite high,.. 1k monthly shouldn't be a problem,.. those who don't want to review their job,.. also i will reject,..

3rdly,.. the area full with indian enquiries,.. not many chinese (chinese mostly asking for sales not rental),.. and Raya season,.. not many malay enquiries also,..

so hope this one goes well,.. if not then got new ban list in my profiling selection,..
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:54 PM)
You are gravely wrong about this. The lady would have exhausted her options and resulting twitter post out of frustration, i know because i was once in the exact situation some years ago. Being a fresh grad coming out of a uni where all races lived, studied and had fun together, suddenly being told to get lost because you and i are not same anymore. Yes reality is harsh and i learned it the hard way.

I am grateful though i have had really nice chinese landlords (quite literally 1 in 20 ?) who looked past race and wanted some form of security (i.e. higher deposits, proof of employment < this is fair IMHO)

Like i said, once would never understand the prejudice and profiling that minorities go through. Being denied a place to stay is completely not the same as being denied other things such as jobs/positions/investments.

Discrimination is discrimination, but some discrimination is worse than others.
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Since you appear to be anti-discrimination based on what you write, why do you think it's fair to ask for higher deposits just because you're from certain race? Aren't you contradicting yourself.

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post Jun 17 2022, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:03 PM)
Since you appear to be anti-discrimination based on what you write, why do you think it's fair to ask for higher deposits just because you're from certain race? Aren't you contradicting yourself.
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Cute right? You the third person here already in short time span today to immediately see how contradicting this person is. lol.
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:08 PM

 
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:47 PM)
A blue collar construction worker with history of frequent moves between states wouldn't really care if he trashed the place he lives in

A bankrupt person for poor financial decisions with no fixed income will likely have problem paying rent in time

A person with incomplete secondary education yet choosing to rent in a affluent part of the city? Without going into other aspect, already raised red flags

Specially in Malaysia, a person with records for robbery, breaking and entering, just raised red flags.

And all of these can be of any race

Do your due diligence. Dont be a lazy racist.

Typical Malaysians
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See, we are exactly the same, profiling others based on possibilities that the person may cause trouble/not pay on time.

Any race may be a bad tenant, but one particular race is more likely than the others.

https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...nds-pdrm-282448

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Three important data derived from the study on this issue in particular concludes that:
1) 72% of gang members indentified in Malaysia are Indians.
2) A total of 28,926 Indians identified of being gang members till date.
3) The Indian Community has the highest rate of gangsterism in Malaysia.



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post Jun 17 2022, 02:08 PM

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Not this shit again.

The twitter handler said that she is human rights law, so she should know better about this?

Its the owner rights to choose which race they want to rent it out, the property agent is just the messenger and the website is just a platform.

If like this then, how property agent going to survive, where to post the property to sell/rent?

Now she poster her conversation with the agent which shows the agent mobile number in twitter, can the agent sue her for this since the agent being harrass by people due to her action?
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:09 PM

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just reject nicely if it doesn't suit ur requirement .
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:03 PM)
Since you appear to be anti-discrimination based on what you write, why do you think it's fair to ask for higher deposits just because you're from certain race? Aren't you contradicting yourself.
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what can he do lah. either do it or find another house, which will be time consuming .

most likely from 20 calls only 1-2 agents agree to go for site visit
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:09 PM

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its not shocking.

that guy probably is living under the rock.
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ Jun 17 2022, 02:08 PM)
Cute right? You the third person here already in short time span today to immediately see how contradicting this person is. lol.
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You guy just spill the beans for him, now he is going to make sounds to his landlord and say they racist liao.
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(theguywhowaited @ Jun 17 2022, 02:08 PM)
Not this shit again.

The twitter handler said that she is human rights law, so she should know better about this?

Its the owner rights to choose which race they want to rent it out, the property agent is just the messenger and the website is just a platform.

If like this then, how property agent going to survive, where to post the property to sell/rent?

Now she poster her conversation with the agent which shows the agent mobile number in twitter, can the agent sue her for this since the agent being harrass by people due to her action?
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some fellas are just clout chaser one lah

this, loyars, activists, feminazis, LBGTQ fellas, those are best to left alone in their own universe

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jun 17 2022, 02:13 PM
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:09 PM)
Filling up race in a government form or IC has no implications to what you can wear, where you can live or what you can eat.

Being denied a home based on skin color is akin to being denied one of the basic human rights (food, shelter and clothing).
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What kind of sense of entitlement is this lmao.

Nobody owes you anything, certainly not the owner who has to bear all the risks so it’s only right for them to not take any chance and filter to the max.

Blaming the owner for choosing the best investment even though you are less wanted/attractive as an investment to the said owner is like, in a sense, asking for preferential treatment.

It’s a dog eat dog world nowadays so you can’t expect people to readily help you, much less jeopardising themselves just to help you.

All this talk about denying someone the “essentials or basic human rights” only makes sense when the owner owes that someone a duty, which obviously he/she doesn’t because he/she is not the government.

You can’t be discussing the difference in gravity between essentials and non-essentials when you have no right to expect such in the first place. That’s very presumptuous of you.

If anything you should be blaming your peers for creating that kind of perception.

Or better yet, ask why the government hasn’t done anything to tackle this issue because ultimately the government is the one responsible for the welfare of the people, not the common people.

The best short term solution is to try harder. Treat it as playing a game in hard mode. And no, other races do not get to choose either. It is what it is. Also doesn’t help when your teammates intentionally make the game harder by feeding themselves to the boss.

The force of market will fix this anyway. When there is a lack of “preferred” tenants in the market, those owners will naturally lower down their expectations.
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 01:59 PM)
your neighborhood got no GnG kah? seems like everyone can enter the area
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Yes, the place that I stay now no GnG. We preferred it that way imho. No need pay additional fee, less hassle in and out.

If you get neighbour from hell, what also cannot help.
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:17 PM

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Wow got two types of Indian.. they must be teaching their kids these stuff huh
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:54 PM)
You are gravely wrong about this. The lady would have exhausted her options and resulting twitter post out of frustration, i know because i was once in the exact situation some years ago. Being a fresh grad coming out of a uni where all races lived, studied and had fun together, suddenly being told to get lost because you and i are not same anymore. Yes reality is harsh and i learned it the hard way.

I am grateful though i have had really nice chinese landlords (quite literally 1 in 20 ?) who looked past race and wanted some form of security (i.e. higher deposits, proof of employment < this is fair IMHO)

Like i said, once would never understand the prejudice and profiling that minorities go through. Being denied a place to stay is completely not the same as being denied other things such as jobs/positions/investments.

Discrimination is discrimination, but some discrimination is worse than others.
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You are mixing things, putting in your experience and sentimental values, and derailed. I thought my original post was government is also asking for race and you say other wise. Sometimes we need to stay around the topic to discuss, writing long to no where does not help.

That will be funny to say Non in Malaysia does not understand bias and prejudice, isn't it?

Ohya, you mention about proof of employment is fair. What if someone got rejected because of shady employment? It seems like people are generally OK to be bias on anything else except race?

Not going to reply further as I wouldn't able to imagine where the topic will goes next.

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post Jun 17 2022, 02:22 PM

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tons and tons of property rental ads on mudah
terang2 write melayu or muslim melayu only(on title)

though i've yet to see chinese only until today
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(kens88` @ Jun 17 2022, 08:20 AM)
I wonder if owner specify...?

Or agent sendiri act smart and proactive blurt this out?
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Of course owner la. There's a lot of owner who pick race. What for agent wanna do this? There's nothing for them. As a matter of fact, agents normally discourage this practice, as it makes finding tenant harder.

This post has been edited by annoymous1234: Jun 17 2022, 02:23 PM
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 02:09 PM)
what can he do lah. either do it or find another house, which will be time consuming .

most likely from 20 calls only 1-2 agents agree to go for site visit
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True but I am pointing out is why he thinks it's not right to refuse to rent to him because of his race, but it's ok to make him pay higher deposit because of his race. Aren't both discriminatory practices?
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:45 PM)
I call it racism. Simply because every indian is painted with the same brush.

Secondly, nobody is denying anybodys' basic human right here > If a chinese is denied a bumi lot, no problem find a chinese landlord.
If a chinese is denied a gov job, no problem, work in a chinese company. Likewise for malays.

However due to being a much smaller minority and population, indians dont really have options.
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Why not you take the lead to unpaint the old trail (indian tenancy) into a rosy tenancy landscape here with a new brush, unless you are saying > there is nothing (on indian tenancy trail) to undo here.

There must be a reason why a same trail that is too deeply felt by too many in the tenancy scene here.

What's your say?

On your last para, just adopt and adapt (AAA)

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jun 17 2022, 02:49 PM
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:35 PM

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Should also be shocked house price is according to race.
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post Jun 17 2022, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 17 2022, 02:30 PM)
True but I am pointing out is why he thinks it's not right to refuse to rent to him because of his race, but it's ok to make him pay higher deposit because of his race. Aren't both discriminatory practices?
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deposit can be refund if no damage,.. how is higher deposit not fair ??... if tenants got few airconds,.. i will ask for 1 month utility deposit instead of 1/2 month,... is that discrimination ???... for commercial some owner even ask for higher deposits if the tenant doing some higher risk business,..

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