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Gempar: Pemudi terkejut sewa rumah ikut bangsa, hmm...
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mushigen
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Jun 17 2022, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Jun 17 2022, 01:54 PM) You are gravely wrong about this. The lady would have exhausted her options and resulting twitter post out of frustration, i know because i was once in the exact situation some years ago. Being a fresh grad coming out of a uni where all races lived, studied and had fun together, suddenly being told to get lost because you and i are not same anymore. Yes reality is harsh and i learned it the hard way. I am grateful though i have had really nice chinese landlords (quite literally 1 in 20 ?) who looked past race and wanted some form of security (i.e. higher deposits, proof of employment < this is fair IMHO) Like i said, once would never understand the prejudice and profiling that minorities go through. Being denied a place to stay is completely not the same as being denied other things such as jobs/positions/investments. Discrimination is discrimination, but some discrimination is worse than others. Since you appear to be anti-discrimination based on what you write, why do you think it's fair to ask for higher deposits just because you're from certain race? Aren't you contradicting yourself.
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mushigen
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Jun 17 2022, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2022, 02:09 PM) what can he do lah. either do it or find another house, which will be time consuming . most likely from 20 calls only 1-2 agents agree to go for site visit True but I am pointing out is why he thinks it's not right to refuse to rent to him because of his race, but it's ok to make him pay higher deposit because of his race. Aren't both discriminatory practices?
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mushigen
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Jun 17 2022, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 02:37 PM) deposit can be refund if no damage,.. how is higher deposit not fair ??... if tenants got few airconds,.. i will ask for 1 month utility deposit instead of 1/2 month,... is that discrimination ???... for commercial some owner even ask for higher deposits if the tenant doing some higher risk business,.. Dey, read the thing in its context. Fair as in he thinks it's fair to charge him higher deposits because of his race, but not fair if LL doesn't want to rent to him because of his race. I'm still waiting for his clarification.
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mushigen
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Jun 17 2022, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 02:46 PM) higher risk,.. higher deposit,.. not that he rejecting outright,.. he's giving him chance for rental with no disadvantage for tenant but more security to the owner,.. deposit is full refundable,..he's giving chance to the tenants ,... how izit discrimination ?? Why did you say he poses a higher risk? Isn't this discrimination?
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mushigen
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Jun 17 2022, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 02:54 PM) rental to doctor vs rental to retail cashier,.. is that a discrimination ??... which one higher risk ?? Dey, stop putar halim. We were talking about how this fella thinks it's discriminatory to refuse to rent to him because of his race, and why he thinks that it is fair to charge him higher deposits because of his race. You replied it's not discriminatory because of his higher risk. So I asked whether this is not discrimination because you risk profile people based on race. Since when is it about occupation??
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mushigen
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Jun 17 2022, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jun 17 2022, 03:05 PM) I think what he meant for the benefit of doubt, he is willing to double down his deposits, macam giving character security bond la. In a way, he is telling the landlord, i carry himself high (different from what you may perceived me off) , over the roof in principle of honoring the tenancy A-Z thus no worries on my part in securing the return of the 2 months deposits paid by me to you (landlord). I am different from the trails. What if the LL insisted on higher deposit just because he is of certain race, instead of him offering it first?
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mushigen
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Jun 17 2022, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 03:08 PM) why kelantanese more tuai cases than other state ???... why so many nigerian people involved in scam even famous Nigerian Prince scam was named after them ????.... why malay mudah keliru on halal and haram ???.... aint that profiling by race too ???... First you brought up occupation which is unrelated to my question. Then you brought up tuai and Kelantan, which is also unrelated to my question. Why can't you answer straight to the point instead of twisting and turning around?
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mushigen
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Jun 17 2022, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jun 17 2022, 03:22 PM) how izit not relevant,.. it's about profiling,... if occupation don't relate to race in any way,.. then why most civil servant are malay ??.... why so klang so many indian gangster ??.. why cheras so many chinese gangster ??...why most indian parents want their children to be doctor or engineer ??..... why hard labor is bangla ??... it's all known from statistic profiling,.. u go tell police don't do profiling when catch criminal,... So you agree it's discrimination to ask for higher deposits just because he is from certain race, or you do not agree it's discrimination?
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