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dattebayo
post Sep 2 2022, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(GamaX320 @ Sep 2 2022, 12:58 PM)
do you might share how many yrs experience u get senior position with 10k?
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10 years?

what i wanted to highlight is

the job market undergoes quite some changes circa 2021/22, when most countries in the world transitions to endemic stage and 99% of the economy activities starts to resume, it was when the great resignation happened (still happens now) and employers are struggling to find replacements even till this day

which is why those got their offer prior to 2021 were lower than after 2021



YoshiroTee
post Sep 3 2022, 02:54 AM

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# Job 1
Job Title : Fullstack dev
Job Desciption : Develop many apps and microsite
Years spent in company : 4 years
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 11k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth + RM 5~6k

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# Job 2
Job Title : Web dev
Job Desciption : Social webapp
Years spent in company : 1 month
Industry : Adult Entertainment
Tenure : 2Y Contract
Location : PH (Remote)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : 4500 USDT
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 12~15mths

Age : 29
Experience before joining (years) : 8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree

Health Benefits : Yes for #1 Job

Growth prospects : Learn how to start own IT business, probably tech solution firm

2 jobs, how?
#1 Work from 9AM to 5PM
#2 Work from 6PM to 2AM

No life I know smile.gif just doing this for short term.
iammyself
post Sep 3 2022, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(YoshiroTee @ Sep 3 2022, 02:54 AM)
# Job 2
Job Title : Web dev

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Well done! I've been looking for a remote backend dev job for the past few weeks without success.

Any tips? Like what website to use and did you apply through company website, etc. Thanks!
lazybugis
post Sep 9 2022, 11:51 AM

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1st JobJ
Job Title : Technical Manager
Job Desciption :
Age : 34
Years spent in company : 8 years
Company : MNC
Industry : Manufacturing
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Excutive
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree
Location : Cyberjaya
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 9150
Contractual Bonus (months): N/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 3-4 months

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical & dental
Transport Benefits : Transport allowance
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Mobile
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
Other Benefits : Car and housing subsidy. And superior been very nice & supportive.

2nd Job
Job Title : Product Specialist
Job Description :
Age : 36
Years spent in company : 0.2 years
Company :
Industry : Entertainment
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 10
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 16000
Contractual Bonus (months): N/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical
Transport Benefits : Transport allowance
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : None
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
ezra_azuri P
post Sep 11 2022, 09:50 AM

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1st Job
Job Title : Site Reliability Engineer
Job Desciption :
Age : 21
Years spent in company : 1 years
Company : Private (Have office in Singapore, Indonesia and India)
Industry : FinTech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Bangsar South, KL (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hours (9AM-6PM, sometime oncall 3AM-5AM)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4700
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A (quit before bonus)

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical, dental, life insurance
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Mobile & Laptop (RM 200)
Flexi Working Hours : No
Other Benefits : RM 150 monthly e-wallet

2nd Job
Job Title : Release Automation Engineer (DevOps Engineer)
Job Description :
Age : 22
Years spent in company : 0 years (will start this 20th Sep)
Company : MNC
Industry : Marketing Technologies
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid-level
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Cyberjaya, Selangor (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42.5 hours (Expected)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 7500
Contractual Bonus (months): N/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 10% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical
Transport Benefits : Transport allowance (RM 500)
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
alpha team
post Sep 14 2022, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(ezra_azuri @ Sep 11 2022, 09:50 AM)
1st Job
Job Title : Site Reliability Engineer
Job Desciption :
Age : 21
Years spent in company : 1 years
Company : Private (Have office in Singapore, Indonesia and India)
Industry : FinTech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Bangsar South, KL (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hours (9AM-6PM, sometime oncall 3AM-5AM)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4700
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A (quit before bonus)

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical, dental, life insurance
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Mobile & Laptop (RM 200)
Flexi Working Hours : No
Other Benefits : RM 150 monthly e-wallet

2nd Job
Job Title : Release Automation Engineer (DevOps Engineer)
Job Description :
Age : 22
Years spent in company : 0 years (will start this 20th Sep)
Company : MNC
Industry : Marketing Technologies
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid-level
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Cyberjaya, Selangor (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42.5 hours (Expected)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 7500
Contractual Bonus (months): N/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 10% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical
Transport Benefits : Transport allowance (RM 500)
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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only 1 yr exp and not even degree holder can get RM7500???
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post Sep 14 2022, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(alpha team @ Sep 14 2022, 11:01 AM)
only 1 yr exp and not even degree holder can get RM7500???
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I guess I'm very fortunate for this one. I ask for RM6.1k, which is 30% increase from my first salary in hope that it will be reduced to 15%-20% increase salary (common advise that I heard) but got offered RM7.5k instead (which is very surprising to me).

Yes, I don't have a degree but I self-taught myself and have AWS Certified Solutions Architect Associate and Kubernetes Certified Administrator. I think I'm doing very well during interview and able to answer all technical questions confidently and they don't mind at all that I didn't finish a degree yet (degree not a requirement for this job, which is become more common right now for tech jobs as long as you can prove that you able to do the job).



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post Sep 14 2022, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(alpha team @ Sep 14 2022, 11:01 AM)
only 1 yr exp and not even degree holder can get RM7500???
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That's how crazy the digital industry is right now

I was involved in hiring for my team and the salary bump for most role as compared to few years ago is quite significant

A number of my friends also landed a new role in other company with significant salary bump
lazybugis
post Sep 15 2022, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(ezra_azuri @ Sep 11 2022, 10:50 AM)
1st Job
Job Title : Site Reliability Engineer
Job Desciption :
Age : 21
Years spent in company : 1 years
Company : Private (Have office in Singapore, Indonesia and India)
Industry : FinTech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Bangsar South, KL (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hours (9AM-6PM, sometime oncall 3AM-5AM)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4700
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A (quit before bonus)

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical, dental, life insurance
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Mobile & Laptop (RM 200)
Flexi Working Hours : No
Other Benefits : RM 150 monthly e-wallet

2nd Job
Job Title : Release Automation Engineer (DevOps Engineer)
Job Description :
Age : 22
Years spent in company : 0 years (will start this 20th Sep)
Company : MNC
Industry : Marketing Technologies
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid-level
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Cyberjaya, Selangor (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42.5 hours (Expected)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 7500
Contractual Bonus (months): N/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 10% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical
Transport Benefits : Transport allowance (RM 500)
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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This is quite impressive. Keep up!
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post Sep 16 2022, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(YoshiroTee @ Sep 3 2022, 02:54 AM)
# Job 1
Job Title : Fullstack dev
Job Desciption : Develop many apps and microsite
Years spent in company : 4 years
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 11k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth + RM 5~6k

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# Job 2
Job Title : Web dev
Job Desciption : Social webapp
Years spent in company : 1 month
Industry : Adult Entertainment
Tenure : 2Y Contract
Location : PH (Remote)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : 4500 USDT
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 12~15mths

Age : 29
Experience before joining (years) : 8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree

Health Benefits : Yes for #1 Job

Growth prospects : Learn how to start own IT business, probably tech solution firm

2 jobs, how?
#1 Work from 9AM to 5PM
#2 Work from 6PM to 2AM

No life I know smile.gif just doing this for short term.
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RM30k per month wow
happy_berry
post Sep 18 2022, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(lazybugis @ Sep 9 2022, 11:51 AM)
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from manufacturing to entertainment?? what???
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post Sep 18 2022, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(YoshiroTee @ Sep 3 2022, 02:54 AM)
# Job 1
Job Title : Fullstack dev
Job Desciption : Develop many apps and microsite
Years spent in company : 4 years
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 11k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth + RM 5~6k

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# Job 2
Job Title : Web dev
Job Desciption : Social webapp
Years spent in company : 1 month
Industry : Adult Entertainment
Tenure : 2Y Contract
Location : PH (Remote)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : 4500 USDT
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 12~15mths

Age : 29
Experience before joining (years) : 8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree

Health Benefits : Yes for #1 Job

Growth prospects : Learn how to start own IT business, probably tech solution firm

2 jobs, how?
#1 Work from 9AM to 5PM
#2 Work from 6PM to 2AM

No life I know smile.gif just doing this for short term.
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you maintain a boner while coding? laugh.gif

jk jk
i notice a lot of good paying jobs from PH.
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post Sep 19 2022, 08:34 PM

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I think it would be great to specify what field of study in the "Highest paper qualification" section:-

e.g . "Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree (in chemical engineering)"

I think it would open up even more interesting discussions, like lets say you studied chemical but you're working in software engineering, for example.

Just a suggestion ofc.
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post Sep 20 2022, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(alpha team @ Sep 14 2022, 11:01 AM)
only 1 yr exp and not even degree holder can get RM7500???
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That company who hired him is kinda sus...

Normally... fresh site reliability engineer requires at least a BSc computer science degree.... CKA doesn't give you a passport directly to a high paying site reliability engineer job especially you have 0 experience.... otherwise every tom dick and harry would just jump into the CKA bandwagon.... it takes only 3 months to get CKA certified and it is not that hard...

Anyhow.. not saying the story doesn't checks out.... in this day and age... a lot of weird things that make no sense does happens....


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post Sep 20 2022, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Sep 18 2022, 05:33 PM)
from manufacturing to entertainment?? what???
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Sorry if it is misleading. It's the industry I'm working. Day to day it's more on software development.
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post Sep 21 2022, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 20 2022, 12:02 AM)
That company who hired him is kinda sus...

Normally... fresh site reliability engineer requires at least a BSc computer science degree.... CKA doesn't give you a passport directly to a high paying site reliability engineer job especially you have 0 experience.... otherwise every tom dick and harry would just jump into the CKA bandwagon.... it takes only 3 months to get CKA certified and it is not that hard...

Anyhow.. not saying the story doesn't checks out.... in this day and age... a lot of weird things that make no sense does happens....
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I see a lot of DevOps/SRE/Software Development job right now which don't require CS undergraduate. My current employer also don't mind at all that I didn't finish my degree. In my situation I do a lot of self-learning regarding CI/CD, IaC, Cloud Computing, monitoring systems to name a few (which are not covered in most of the CS undergraduate in Malaysia) with basic like programming, networking, security and OS already learned during undergraduate before dropping out. It's also common to meet other people coming from unrelated undergraduate major and working in the tech job with self-learning. As long as you prove that you have the skills required and self-driven, I think that should be fine. It could also be because my current company is based in USA where self-taught and bootcamp are much more acceptable than in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(ezra_azuri @ Sep 21 2022, 03:01 PM)
I see a lot of DevOps/SRE/Software Development job right now which don't require CS undergraduate. My current employer also don't mind at all that I didn't finish my degree. In my situation I do a lot of self-learning regarding CI/CD, IaC, Cloud Computing, monitoring systems to name a few (which are not covered in most of the CS undergraduate in Malaysia) with basic like programming, networking, security and OS already learned during undergraduate before dropping out. It's also common to meet other people coming from unrelated undergraduate major and working in the tech job with self-learning. As long as you prove that you have the skills required and self-driven, I think that should be fine. It could also be because my current company is based in USA where self-taught and bootcamp are much more acceptable than in Malaysia.
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My boss never look at the cert. When he thinks a candidate is ok, he will hire the candidate for testing, and in that 1-2 months probations, if he notices the candidate is unable to do what he/she claims, he will straight away say byebye to the candidate.
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post Sep 28 2022, 05:18 PM

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Job Title : Project Engineer
Job Desciption : Manage projects development and execution
Age : 37
Years spent in company : 0
Company : Oil major
Industry : O&G
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 14
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Meng Mech
Location : SG
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 12,350 monthly
Contractual Bonus (months): na
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : avg 2 months depending on company & individual performance.

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : requestable
Work From Home Availability: requestable
Annual Leaves: 18 days
Flexi Working Hours : na
Benefits (where relevant) : na
Health Benefits : typical insurance coverage; co-payment for outpatient visits, include family member
Transport Benefits : na
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : laptop
Other Benefits : SGD 150 monthly allowance

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : tbc
Current salary against peers in industry : average
Growth prospects : normal
Where I will go from here : supervisory or specialist

This post has been edited by mea05key: Oct 8 2022, 10:39 AM
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post Sep 28 2022, 11:19 PM

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Job Title : Application Support Manager
Job Desciption : Support Financial System
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 8
Company : Bank XX
Industry : Finance
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours):
50-60
Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7100
Contractual Bonus (months): 0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2-6mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : mostly self managed
Work From Home Availability: 4-8 days in a month
Annual Leaves: 24days
Flexi Working Hours : Partial

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : unlimited
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : 150 phone allowance
Other Benefits : better loan rates and time to time handouts

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : I feel Underpaid
Growth prospects : Ladder too short to climb much. But build up character
Where I will go from here : Discuss with the HOD on my salary and request for a revision to meet the market standards.

I recently got promoted and they increased my salary by 10%. After 6 months of probation they will increase my salary to 8.8k which i feel is still way below market range that others are getting although my JD is 1 of a kind to have an accurate comparison.
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QUOTE(NAVEE @ Sep 29 2022, 12:19 AM)
Job Title : Application Support Manager
Job Desciption : Support Financial System
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 8
Company : Bank XX
Industry : Finance
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours):
50-60
Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7100
Contractual Bonus (months): 0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2-6mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : mostly self managed
Work From Home Availability: 4-8 days in a month
Annual Leaves: 24days
Flexi Working Hours : Partial

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : unlimited
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : 150 phone allowance
Other Benefits : better loan rates and time to time handouts

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : I feel Underpaid
Growth prospects : Ladder too short to climb much. But build up character
Where I will go from here : Discuss with the HOD on my salary and request for a revision to meet the market standards.

I recently got promoted and they increased my salary by 10%. After 6 months of probation they will increase my salary to 8.8k which i feel is still way below market range that others are getting although my JD is 1 of a kind to have an accurate comparison.
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