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magika
post Mar 26 2022, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 25 2022, 05:46 PM)
Yeah, it baffles me why they rather go believe shit- stirrer...
Can't believe it .. why so much confusion  over no compounded interest, how interest calculated ,
have doubt when withdraw , marketing trick  etc...


If no  compounding, my daily interest should be RM130.60
(200 x3%)+(1852 x2.25%)/365

But i am getting daily RM130.73, yesterday RM2168.99, today RM2299.72.

isn't that RM0.13 proof of  compounding ?

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I think you wont win any award for your England sentence.

The sentence should run as " But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60. "


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post Mar 26 2022, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 25 2022, 08:36 PM)
Say what you mean and mean what you say ok? Dont twist and turn.

You just said compound only on deposits not inclusive of returns,
meaning compound not on returns, meaning returns/interest  dont earn interest - This is wrong do you know?
Come see what you said above. Again you said interest not compounded- This is wrong again
After being confronted  now you turn 180 degree and said the correct thing- ie interest is compounded
but you pretended like the above 2 WRONG posts from you never existed at all doh.gif

Next  you tried to say my calculation is wrong, who doesn't know 1st 200k  interest is 16.4383
and next 100k is RM6.16438?

To calculate interest for RM2,054,299.74. it is as simple as Rm16.4383 +(1854299.74 x 2.25%)/365,

what difference can you get by  adding RM6.16438 for every RM100k doing it over 18 x ??

And i dont understand  how magika is saying you are right there and hinted my calculation might be wrong.

Just what do you guys mean by base compounded.

Interest compounded is what i say interest earn interest.

base compounded deposit is what? base earn interest?
putting all your deposits together is called base compounded deposits?
it is meaningless as far as interest earning part is concerned.
of course all deposits we put in must be paid interest!
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bro, why would you put more than 200K when the extra only earns 2.25%. Temporary parking for SSPN?
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post Mar 26 2022, 05:19 PM

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i was going to give it a pass, taking good advice from fellow forumner, move on without answering

QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 25 2022, 11:26 PM)
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this guy incorrigible fact-twister, well known already. doh.gif doh.gif


QUOTE(magika @ Mar 26 2022, 02:54 PM)
I think you wont win any award for your England sentence.

The sentence should run as " But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60. "
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but i give you the benefit of doubt, just assume you lack critical thinking and mathematical skills,
could not understand what he wrote (gibberish mostly),you agreed with him blindly, repeatedly.
(Worse,you also could not understand what i wrote, despite i say what i mean, and i mean what i say, no twisting! doh.gif )


Can you tell me what is the main point @xander83 has been writing so far?
@xander83 's main point was - No daily compounding Interest,
do you agree with him?

Now i give you my data
you tell me what you said above is correct or not.


19.3.22 Nett Deposit RM2052k Returns RM1515.39
20.3.22 Nett Deposit RM2052k Returns RM1646.09
21.3.22 Nett Deposit RM2052k Returns RM1776.81
22.3.22 Nett Deposit RM2052k Returns RM1907.53
23.3.22 Nett Deposit RM2052k Returns RM2038.26
24.3.22 Nett Deposit RM2052k Returns RM2168.99
25.3.22 Nett Deposit RM2052k Returns RM2299.74
26.3.22 Nett Deposit RM2052k Returns RM

It is ridiculous to expect 1 day the daily interest can jump 13 sen from RM130.60 to RM130.73!
Not at my accumulated interest of only RM2299 now!


QUOTE(magika @ Mar 25 2022, 06:50 PM)
I was about to post that with calculation but you beat me to it.
Hope guy3288 willing to slowly discuss without getting emotional. My calc do tally at 0.008 sen too.
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since we are at it, can you please explain what you were about to post there that can rebut my point
that Interest is daily compounded? please show with calculation


QUOTE(magika @ Mar 25 2022, 09:16 PM)
Pertaining to the issues that the interest is compounding, like in your case should be at 2.25%,  therefore since  your daily interest amounted to RM13😂0.73, correct  me if i am wrong, thereby tomorow interest should be at least RM130.73 + 0.08 sen.
Thats all that is needed to show whether it is compounding. Thanks if you should have the time to enlightened us.
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No! Daily interest doesnt increase so much RM0.08 sen a day.

There is already enough proof to tell you Interest is daily compounded (RM 13 sen paid for returns RM2168.99)
You dont need to see that RM0.008 sen earned by RM130.73 doh.gif

QUOTE(sweetpea123 @ Mar 26 2022, 04:12 PM)
bro, why would you put more than 200K when the extra only earns 2.25%. Temporary parking for SSPN?
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magika
post Mar 26 2022, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 25 2022, 06:50 PM)
I was about to post that with calculation but you beat me to it.

Hope guy3288 willing to slowly discuss without getting emotional. My calc do tally at 0.008 sen too.

Maintaining same deposit, everyday the interesting amount must go higher and not just maintain at RM130.73
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Your latest post of 7 days data do indeed confirm that its return is daily compounded. However your previous post and data provided are basically what we have to calculate. In previous post only 2 dates are mentioned which are 24/3/22 and 25/3/22.
Also you mentioned that you are getting daily RM130.73 which daily means to me is that it is unchanged even by a single cent which is the trigger that its not right. I m only talking of the mentioned dates and return of RM130.73 which on the following day must increased by 0.008cent.

I also take cognisance of the fact that you tolerate no fools, just please bear in mind that this is just a financial forum, where discourse should be entertained, in the long run it benefits everyone.

Just to clear the air, based on your recent data disclosure, you are absolutely right that the return is compounded daily.



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post Mar 26 2022, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 26 2022, 06:29 PM)

I also take cognisance of the fact that you tolerate no fools, just please bear in mind that this is just a financial forum, where discourse should be entertained, in the long run it benefits everyone.

Just to clear the air, based on your recent data disclosure, you are absolutely right that the return is compounded daily.
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i am glad you finally admitted the return is compounded daily. But your friend above still refused to admit so.

Still you did not explain why you said this:
QUOTE(magika @ Mar 26 2022, 02:54 PM)
I think you wont win any award for your England sentence.

The sentence should run as " But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60. "

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is my english that bad ? And why daily interest must increase Rm0.13 knowing accumulated returns only RM2299..

You know how much confusion you guys have caused by pretending not to know the fact?

Am i the only guy with KDI save ??
Just login your own account, you can see also what. doh.gif
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post Mar 26 2022, 08:56 PM

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Ello, why would you guys quarrel over the measly difference?
Dont you guys have bigger fish to fry?
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post Mar 26 2022, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 26 2022, 08:26 PM)
Still you did not explain why you said this:

is my english that bad ? And why daily interest must increase Rm0.13 knowing accumulated returns only RM2299..

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This just for discussion only, so lets discuss.

Techically you should get 0.14 cents extra compound interest on sum of RM2299.74 x 2.25% /365 that is today.
Its calculated separately so to avoid confusion on my part, maybe. Your net deposit of RM2052k is following the standard calculation 200k @3% 1852k @2.25% pa equals to RM130.60 per day if my calc is correct. So total return today 26/3/22 should be around RM130.74

Hope its alright with you

This post has been edited by magika: Mar 26 2022, 11:33 PM
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post Mar 26 2022, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Mar 26 2022, 08:56 PM)
Ello, why would you guys quarrel over the measly difference?
Dont you guys have bigger fish to fry?
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Its not really a quarrel.

Even thru my younger days, i would always attempt to find out how things work or calculated. Maybe i make a lot of mistakes on the way, but the process itself makes me better. Quite a number of people refused to commit themselves, on the premise that if they are wrong, it makes them look bad.
Experience comes from making mistakes . Never attempt then no way of knowing if you are on the right track.

Before this, i hardly know anything about KDI Save, therefore refrained from using it. After this discussion, not only have i learnt but am pretty confident of using it.


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post Mar 27 2022, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Mar 26 2022, 08:56 PM)
Ello, why would you guys quarrel over the measly difference?
Dont you guys have bigger fish to fry?
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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 26 2022, 10:55 PM)
u should get 0.14 cents extra compound interest on sum of RM2299.74 x 2.25% /365 that is today.
Its calculated separately so to avoid confusion on my part, maybe. Your net deposit of RM2052k is following the standard calculation 200k @3% 1852k @2.25% pa equals to RM130.60 per day if my calc is correct. So total return today 26/3/22 should be around RM130.74
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what you said above is not wrong.you are becoming another @xander83

But what you said earlier was clearly wrong. this.
QUOTE(magika @ Mar 26 2022, 02:54 PM)
The sentence should run as " But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60. "
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How could u even suggested me to say the above which is obviously wrong! telling people daily interest can increase 13 sen

Daily interest increase by very small amount 1 or 2sen only a day.
see what u said above and see daily interest increment below.

19.3.22 Interest today RM130.70- Total Returns RM1515.39
20.3.22 Interest today RM130.70 Returns RM1646.09
21.3.22 Interest today RM130.72 Returns RM1776.81
22.3.22 Interest today RM130.72 Returns RM1907.53
23.3.22 Interest today RM130.73 Returns RM2038.26
24.3.22 Interest today RM130.73 Returns RM2168.99
25.3.22 Interest today RM130.75 Returns RM2299.74




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post Mar 27 2022, 12:58 AM

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If you look at my reply you would see that i am requoting you.
Changing your sentence to try to make more sense.


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post Mar 27 2022, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 27 2022, 12:58 AM)
If you look at my reply you would see that i am requoting you.
Changing your sentence to try to make more sense.
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I think i see the confusion here. What guy3288 meant was if interest was not compounded he would he would be getting Rm130.60 everyday. However his latest daily interest is RM130.73 proofing that interest is compounded.

He did not mean his daily interest the day before was RM130.60 and the next day is RM130.73, which by u changing his sentence to “But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60.” implies just that which is now inaccurate and not what guy3288 was saying

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QUOTE(Jwkhor @ Mar 27 2022, 11:56 AM)
I think i see the confusion here. What guy3288 meant was if interest was not compounded he would he would be getting Rm130.60 everyday. However his latest daily interest is RM130.73 proofing that interest is compounded.

He did not mean his daily interest the day before was RM130.60 and the next day is RM130.74, which by u changing his sentence to “But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60.” implies just that which is now inaccurate and not what guy3288 was saying
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Noted. On hindsight i agree.

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move on guys. don't waste too much time on this...

I personally will only use KDI Save to temporary park the money that does not belongs to me so I can earn interest while always be ready to return the money when the owners come looking for it.
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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 27 2022, 12:58 AM)
If you look at my reply you would see that i am requoting you.
Changing your sentence to try to make more sense.
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You must not correct me if you do not understand what i said.
why @Jwkhor could get it but you couldn't despite me prompted you twice?

you cant be that slow, mathematically so unsavvy
worse is try become another @xander83, twist and turn,
pretend nothing happened.

QUOTE(Jwkhor @ Mar 27 2022, 11:56 AM)
I think i see the confusion here. What guy3288 meant was if interest was not compounded he would he would be getting Rm130.60 everyday. However his latest daily interest is RM130.73 proofing that interest is compounded.

He did not mean his daily interest the day before was RM130.60 and the next day is RM130.73, which by u changing his sentence to “But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60.” implies just that which is now inaccurate and not what guy3288 was saying
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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 27 2022, 12:04 PM)
Noted.  On hindsight i agree.
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QUOTE(skty @ Mar 27 2022, 12:24 PM)
move on guys. don't waste too much time on this...

I personally will only use KDI Save to temporary park the money that does not belongs to me so I can earn interest while always be ready to return the money when the owners come looking for it.
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good. be patient with forumner who are abit slow but genuinely want to learn
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QUOTE(Jwkhor @ Mar 27 2022, 11:56 AM)
I think i see the confusion here. What guy3288 meant was if interest was not compounded he would he would be getting Rm130.60 everyday. However his latest daily interest is RM130.73 proofing that interest is compounded.

He did not mean his daily interest the day before was RM130.60 and the next day is RM130.73, which by u changing his sentence to “But i am getting RM130.73 today in contrast to yesterday interest of RM130.60.” implies just that which is now inaccurate and not what guy3288 was saying
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post Mar 27 2022, 07:41 PM

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For those who like to comment but lazy to find out first
the saga started when some starting to worry about their money, interest being cut at withdrawal,
how interest calculated etc etc.

cant blame them as KDi was at fault not being clear and "cutting" returns trf to Nett Deposit when we withdraw.
i raised the issue on 14.3.22 , but quickly found the answer, kudos to @shawnme
QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 14 2022, 08:51 PM)
After withdrawal noticed reduced interest is more than expected
WD RM10k,  today daily interest  reduced by RM3.54, should cut only RM0.62
WD RM1k ,  today daily interest  reduced by RM0.40, should cut only RM0.06
Anybody noticed that?
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QUOTE(shawnme @ Mar 15 2022, 08:39 AM)
I've made a withdrawal of RM 1k, and I noticed my "Net Deposit" amount increased by RM 0.70. Could it be where it went to?
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Then as usual trying to explain by giving false info, shit stirrer came
QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 15 2022, 01:22 AM)
It is FIFO whereby withdrawals will be from earlier deposits  doh.gif
Lesson is never fiddled withdrawal unless it is necessary  doh.gif
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FACT- it is first in last out, NOT FIFO!!

next came magika raising question on compound interest
QUOTE(magika @ Mar 24 2022, 07:36 PM)
Hope not intruding but based on the issues, so the Return is in separate account meaning it is not compounding ?
Or am i mistaken. Base Compounding Interest ... what does it mean...
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 24 2022, 07:54 PM)
Return is not compounded
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they caused so much confusion...
QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Mar 25 2022, 10:20 AM)
but it is not compounded. so in the long run, it is no good. it will be like FD which you put for lock in 9 month. different here is no lock down
Now I have doubt if we can get those mentioned return when we withdraw all now. Sometimes, it is marketing to trick you that you earn a lot of interest but may not be the case when withdraw now
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QUOTE(Jwkhor @ Mar 25 2022, 10:25 AM)
If we take KDI max limit of 200k for 3%, vs 200k for say 2.4% on similar platforms. The difference is about there RM100 pm.

But that wasnt the point, im more concerned with how they calculate the interest if u made withdrawals cuz some ppl have mentioned there has been some discrepancies.
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 24 2022, 04:18 PM)
pure KDI Save
seems like withdrawal will also clawback the profit too?
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the rest is history... the 2 of them just going round and round everytime i tried to explain
with data and calculation till you guys all got fed up!.

This post has been edited by guy3288: Mar 27 2022, 07:51 PM
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Anyway, just move on la.

We know it's compounding now. So let's find another more interesting stuff to debate on 🤣
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If i invest 200k in KDI Save and get an interest of 3% pa, so its about rm16.43 per day? After 10 days my total will be 200,164.38. So do they take 200k or 200,164.38 to calculate my 11th day interest?

Just curious how it works here....
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QUOTE(Afterburner1.0 @ Mar 28 2022, 02:13 PM)
If i invest 200k in KDI Save and get an interest of 3% pa, so its about rm16.43 per day? After 10 days my total will be 200,164.38. So do they take 200k or 200,164.38 to calculate my 11th day interest?

Just curious how it works here....
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What so big deal about 200000 and 200164…..



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