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orga_laut
post Feb 14 2022, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(john_white @ Feb 14 2022, 09:41 AM)
can we drop CR? his body quite heavy, slow reaction
the only positive side is his off ball movement
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he is an old ronaldo, a striker.
how many striker that MU have right now, lets see
- rashford
- mason
- cavani
who else? all these 3 is better than this old ronaldo? really? calm down sweat.gif
if u put haaland in this team, he will become worse

the problem is not ronaldo, but shit midfield, selfish wide players, lousy crossing , and maguire


QUOTE(mihina69 @ Feb 14 2022, 12:38 PM)
whose next?

ole = the OG
RR = ole 2.0
Pochettino = ole 3.0
Ten hag =  ole 4.0
conte = ole 5.0

so many conspiracy theories..lulz
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treble winners..
- Sir Alex, Man Utd 98/99 (class 92 + ole,yorke,cole,teddy)
- Pep, Barca 08/09 (messi & co + etoo)
- Mourinho, Inter 09/10 (sneijder)
- Heynckes, Bayern 12/13 (lahm , robben+ribery combo)
- Luis Enrique, Barca 13/14 (suarez+messi+neymar)

if glazers really want MU to become champions again, go for luis enrique ..but i bet he will go for another puppet the argentinian ole 3.0
zhou.xingxing
post Feb 14 2022, 05:42 PM

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https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSenEq2J5/

How to embed this tiktok video... maguire can go liga super ?
john_white
post Feb 14 2022, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Feb 14 2022, 05:42 PM)
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSenEq2J5/

How to embed this tiktok video... maguire can go liga super ?
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No.. i never watched liga super players stupid like him
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post Feb 14 2022, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Feb 14 2022, 05:42 PM)
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSenEq2J5/

How to embed this tiktok video... maguire can go liga super ?
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HM & LS = deadly duo

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pisces88
post Feb 15 2022, 12:27 AM

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rio should give them a lesson on defending. obviously coaches cant do shit so far
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post Feb 15 2022, 12:32 AM

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Our great captain
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post Feb 15 2022, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Feb 15 2022, 12:32 AM)
got to admire his confidence level though, he really thought he's good at carrying n holding the ball..
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post Feb 15 2022, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Feb 15 2022, 12:50 AM)
got to admire his confidence level though, he really thought he's good at carrying n holding the ball..
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…to pass to the opposition.

Ole got conned us, got conned and leave a con for us.
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post Feb 15 2022, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Feb 15 2022, 12:27 AM)
rio should give them a lesson on defending. obviously coaches cant do shit so far
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dont think rio can give him any lesson. like rio can explain to him. but rio cant make him understand. obviously biggest fraud and scam of english football tongue.gif should never wear the red shirt again. 3 seasons already
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post Feb 15 2022, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Feb 15 2022, 12:50 AM)
got to admire his confidence level though, he really thought he's good at carrying n holding the ball..
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english beckenbaur.. he brings the ball from own half to opponents half and passes it to their corner flag
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post Feb 15 2022, 09:49 AM

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All rubbish english players. Pls don’t make another mistake buying Declan Rice.
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post Feb 15 2022, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Feb 15 2022, 09:49 AM)
All rubbish english players. Pls don’t make another mistake buying Declan Rice.
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declan is good but you know, UK
price double or triple
statikinetic
post Feb 15 2022, 11:21 AM

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There is much discussion between how much blame is attributed to the manager vs the players. And that can be hard to split as so many things are inter-related.
Let's look at a definite from the player perspective. Regardless of how bad other factors are, there is one factor that is solely up to the players for input.

Work rate.

Let's define work rate. Work rate is not running around like a headless chicken. It has to do with optimal positioning.
Your optimal position changes when in transition. When your team loses the ball, your optimal position changes as you need to adjust into defensive transition. How fast you make up the difference between Position A and Position B is determined by work rate. Your willingness to sprint and get into the optimal position. Having players with low work rate in your team means the team is more vulnerable in transition as the opposition has a longer period of time to exploit the defensive structure.

Are Manchester United players full of passion and determination to show work rate? Here is the Southampton manager in his press conference after the game.

"It is not a big secret that when they lose the ball that the reverse gears are not the best from everybody."

Scandalous! Which team in the PL has an opposition manager openly spoken about the lack of workrate to get back into position that can be exploited? Only Manchester United. No other team is guilty of such basic problems.
The goals we conceded lately are from the lack of tracking and pressing from certain players. We can discuss Maguire's lack of defendeing or Shaw's inability to play the offisde trap another day. Look at the news reports that are coming out today.

I've criticized Rashford for his rubbish display and causing the Southampton goal. Pogba was gesturing to Rashford to close down the fullback and press but was ignored. Imagine that, Jogba telling another player to press and is being ignored. This is clear evidence that some players are not putting in the necessary effort on the pitch while saying they give 110% to the club on social media. Do you know what the opposite type of player is? Committed but not good enough. Dan James. Obviously doesn't have the ability at United's level but always willing to put in the work rate to make sure his flank is never exposed. That is why manager's like players like this.


So when I say United players are frauds on social media who don't give 100% in matches, this is what I mean.
A culture of just showing up for games and no repercussions on their contracts if results don't come. Just keep on using the media to blame the staff or the manager.

Ole is gone. McKenna who was criticised by the players is gone but is doing very well at Ipswich. He took over with them in a bad spot in 12th, and he's somehow won 6 out of the last 8 for them. VDB is gone and doing very well at Everton. When VDB plays for us, some players don't seem to want to pass to him even he if makes those runs. There is one constant in all the problems United have on the pitch that is still here. The "United DNA" core in the dressing room.

This post has been edited by statikinetic: Feb 15 2022, 11:22 AM
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post Feb 15 2022, 11:23 AM

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we should look at replacing maguire, mct and fred in the summer
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post Feb 15 2022, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 15 2022, 11:23 AM)
we should look at replacing maguire, mct and fred in the summer
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scott's stats are actually quite good has a good voice on pitch. Replace because?
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post Feb 15 2022, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 15 2022, 11:23 AM)
we should look at replacing maguire, mct and fred in the summer
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While we need a new CDM, here are some players who we may have to replace in the summer.
Long list eh?

Lingard (Contract expiry, likely to leave)
Pogba (Contract expiry, likely to leave)
Cavani (Contract expiry, likely to leave)
Mata(Too old. Contract expiry, likely to leave)
Greenwood (Court case)
Matic (Final year of contract. Sell or allow him to leave on free the following season)
Fred (Final year of contract. Sell or allow him to leave on free the following season)
Dalot (Final year of contract. Sell or allow him to leave on free the following season)
Martial (Might push for a transfer)
Van De Beek (Might push for a transfer)
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QUOTE(bansai @ Feb 15 2022, 11:33 AM)
scott's stats are actually quite good has a good voice on pitch. Replace because?
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what stats are we looking at? he is inconsistent as hell and i dont see him capable of controlling our midfield
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post Feb 15 2022, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Feb 15 2022, 11:45 AM)
While we need a new CDM, here are some players who we may have to replace in the summer.
Long list eh?

Lingard (Contract expiry, likely to leave)
Pogba (Contract expiry, likely to leave)
Cavani (Contract expiry, likely to leave)
Mata(Too old. Contract expiry, likely to leave)
Greenwood (Court case)
Matic (Final year of contract. Sell or allow him to leave on free the following season)
Fred (Final year of contract. Sell or allow him to leave on free the following season)
Dalot (Final year of contract. Sell or allow him to leave on free the following season)
Martial (Might push for a transfer)
Van De Beek (Might push for a transfer)
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Only player I would like us to retain is Dalot and VDB.
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post Feb 15 2022, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 15 2022, 11:50 AM)
what stats are we looking at? he is inconsistent as hell and i dont see him capable of controlling our midfield
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defensive stats for a DM of course. My only gripe is on the tactical need for him to fall in to the defensive line while defending but that is on the tactics and not on him.

Stats wise, i would say top 10% or even 5% in PL as a CDM.


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post Feb 15 2022, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(bansai @ Feb 15 2022, 12:00 PM)
defensive stats for a DM of course. My only gripe is on the tactical need for him to fall in to the defensive line while defending but that is on the tactics and not on him.

Stats wise, i would say top 10% or even 5% in PL as a CDM.
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he always hides himself behind oppositions / doesn't provide passing lane for his teammates

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