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post Dec 31 2021, 10:37 AM

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f*king maguire let the ball bounce at about 33 minutes. That is a bloody schoolboy play. and that goal, he just backed off instead of closing down...
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post Jan 4 2022, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 4 2022, 05:39 PM)
Still wanna blame Ole? laugh.gif

Look at the player passing, it was damn horrible to look at, simple open space direct pass also cannot pass well shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

I blame at the players rather than the manager
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At least the manager now has a clear idea on how he wants the team to play. Criticize players performance and make changes. He has only taken charge of the team for a few games. Players will have to adapt or go. No intensity then they must go.

Ole will only suck up to the players and staff. First is get a replacement for the apologetic English fridge. Shaw is at least more straight and open. English bullshit core like Liverpoo l before klopp.
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post Jan 9 2022, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jan 9 2022, 11:01 AM)
pogba case, doesn't matter he is in the camp or not. he just dun have heart for man utd anymore. just let him go.
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There will not be a new offer for pogba other than the one offered to him. No more caving into players ransom. They have to want to play for united and in turn will be rewarded accordingly. If excessive demands are made, the player can move on. This will be united in the coming years.

Mino can look to other clubs. Don't think PSG would want pogba now while real concentrating on attack. Who else can give 400 - 500k per week for a Heartless player like pogba.
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post Jan 9 2022, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 9 2022, 07:43 PM)
Newcastle 😂
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He won't dare. Whatever left with his rep will go down the toilet.
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post Jan 14 2022, 11:39 AM

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Sell Dean Henderson, save 100k per week.

Ddg is our starter and he has earned it.

I blame the press and ole for his big head. Hyped to the max. Another overrated English.
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post Jan 22 2022, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 21 2022, 07:10 PM)
For me he is overrated for the price West Ham demand for

It is cheaper option to buy Bissuma and with that extra money we can get another CM(Pogba/Matic/VDB) will go so we need extra quality

And please don't say we have Mc Tom and Fred
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We. Have Fred and Scotty 👌

Anyways, rice is good, but not world-class. I'd rather we have 2 good players than a hyped up English player. Hope that nonsense English core idea we had while ole was here left with him.
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post Jan 29 2022, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Jan 28 2022, 06:25 PM)
Are you for real? Ander is way above McT and Fred level. He played with his heart on his sleeve. He played with passion and love for the club.

One of the player that got the best footballing brains on the pitch. He can read the game and do what it takes to adapt to the game. Man marking, defensive track back, even tactical foul.

He even pocketed prime Eden Hazard. The club really under appreciate him.
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Agreed. He was better than Carrick imo.
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post Feb 1 2022, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Feb 1 2022, 02:40 PM)
Sorry to say so, winning titles this season just overoptimistic. Too many issues since start of this season that affect players mentally. RR magic doesn't work perfectly so far. Now even with kayu incident.

Top 4 is a more realistic target. Even top 4 is difficult.
It is not about players, it is about the manager.

I don't think RR asked for any new players in other position.
It is his decision to trim the squad.

By loaning out good players that are not appreciated by RR, it somehow can decrease negative emotion in the team.

I believe RR did ask for DM, but like I said, it shud be decided by new manager who to buy.
Can go for loan, but so far can't think of any good DM that not happy with his own club and seek for move.

Far from perfect, but didn't think it was a bad transfer window neither.
I know most of the fans hate the management, but I really can't see what big wrongdoing by management in this window.
They did everything asked by RR, except Lingard.
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Big flaw in your reasoning. Point is players asked to leave, club will only loan players out and leave it to the new manager at the end of season to assess the players.
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post Feb 9 2022, 07:22 AM

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I really really believe that once maguire leaves us we will be a much better team
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post Feb 15 2022, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 15 2022, 11:23 AM)
we should look at replacing maguire, mct and fred in the summer
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scott's stats are actually quite good has a good voice on pitch. Replace because?
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post Feb 15 2022, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Feb 15 2022, 11:50 AM)
what stats are we looking at? he is inconsistent as hell and i dont see him capable of controlling our midfield
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defensive stats for a DM of course. My only gripe is on the tactical need for him to fall in to the defensive line while defending but that is on the tactics and not on him.

Stats wise, i would say top 10% or even 5% in PL as a CDM.


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post Feb 15 2022, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Feb 15 2022, 12:20 PM)
he always hides himself behind oppositions / doesn't provide passing lane for his teammates
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depends on the system. Always seems kinda harsh when the system requires him to pull players to him and open up an upper passing lane without lapping own players.
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post Feb 15 2022, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Feb 15 2022, 01:23 PM)
My view on Scott at DM will be harsh because in all fairness, he is not a DM. I'd class him as a box to box.
I wouldn't put him anywhere near the top 50% in the PL if we are going by CDM stats. He can contribute in a B2B role, or even cover as CDM. Just not first choice CDM.

Just like why I would say Scott does not fit at RW, there are some criterias on why I think CDM doesn't play to his strengths. He has roughly half the skillset required to be a top CDM which makes him 50% suitable for the role. Another player then needs to compliment the other 50% like Fred. Hence McFred. A top class CDM can do it all. What Scott lacks are :

- He does not sense danger quick enough. McT is not a natural defensive player as he actually started his career as a forward. There are situations that he doesn't sense the danger quick enough to alter his possition. So at times, he gets caught out.
- He does not provide the distribution for the team at the base of midfield. This is key for any top CDM when in possession. He does not offer himself consistent enough as a passing option and lacks the passing range/accuracy to dictate play.
- Speed of thought not fast enough. His mental attribute on decision making isn't quick enough to play CDM. The top players at CDM often make decisions before even receiving the ball. So they are efficient with one touch. McT is not.

This is not a knock on McT as these attributes are for top CDMs. Scott isn't even a CDM to begin with. I can imagine he'd do a good job for a relegation side that sits deep but not for United.
I like McTominay as a personality and a graduate of the academy. But we have been using him as a square peg in a round hole that the Board refuses to fix.
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level with ndidi on blocks
better than jorginho in tackles
surprisingly high on clearances
high fouling rate normally means into the thick of things

He's not a natural CDM, but he's playing there now and should be judged on his performance stats in that position. Not based on the 'i feel' system. The board has no say on who starts or plays in a match. Only the manager has the power. Even the veto system is being revamped by RR.
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post Feb 15 2022, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Feb 15 2022, 05:10 PM)
I do agree stats are important, but only if its backed up with the 'eye test'..
Many players stats are great, for example Bruno n Rashford.. but the actual game performance on the field is not that good..

Same also can be said for Jorginho at Chelsea, his tackles are lower than McT.. it is because his team keep possession well, can say also partly because of him keeping n recycling the ball well..

City's DM might have lower tackles n blocks stats too.. no one can say they prefer McT over them though..
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Stats and numbers will be even more prominent once RR moves upstairs. The new system is up, scouts overhauled, now the club is in recruitment phase to move forward from ole. Even our feeder clubs are being trimmed and there are plans to overhaul them.


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post Feb 21 2022, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(areankim @ Feb 21 2022, 11:24 AM)
kaptain always likes to pass the ball at awkward height. damn difficult to control.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Feb 21 2022, 11:30 AM)
yea simple ground pass he can make it half floated lol
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under normal circumstances i would tend to agree that his passes are shiat. Yesterday was an exception. The ground was soaked, grounders will be slow and get stuck. Passes must always be above ground in such conditions.

Regardless, he's still up to United standards. His 1v1s are atrociously bad. He is good at being a brick for opponents to shoot at.
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post Mar 1 2022, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Mar 1 2022, 09:17 AM)
sanchez never reli performed after left us, di maria - that one club dominating league, lukaku - still not EPL material, falcao - dunno wad he won after his disastrous spell at EPL hahaha...

maguire.... haiz... i wish we can get rudiger... at least thats someone that won something before....
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post Mar 16 2022, 11:32 AM

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Are the complaints here about the gameplay or just the results?

If you watched the game, United were decent, just conversion issue.

If it's the result, of course not what we wanted, but based on the gameplay, i can see that the team is actually playing positively.

Defensively, we are still lacking, with maguire still as bad as before but overall, the team was not as bad as the comments here made out to be.

Atleti has one of the strongest squad in europe, look at the names inside.
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post Mar 16 2022, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 16 2022, 11:44 AM)
RR wanted to buy a CDM as top priority in Jan but was denied by the Board.
Results mostly in my opinion.
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kicked out of champions league, surely all disappointed, just imagine how the players are feeling right now.

QUOTE(imin @ Mar 16 2022, 12:09 PM)
any idea why suarez didn't play?
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he hasn't been first choice at atleti for quite sometime. I thought he would be given a chance since he has motivation to score against us, but simeone stuck with griezmann and felix. Even Correa couldn't start...... That's how strong their team is.
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post Mar 16 2022, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Mar 16 2022, 12:36 PM)
results mostly. after RR took over, we often played well but cant score... and this curse doesnt seems going to end soon... thats the sad thing now... and varane should be quite sick with maguire as his CB partner  doh.gif  doh.gif
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i don't think of it as a curse but more on the decision making of the players. Pass instead of shoot, shoot instead of cross, cross instead of layoff, etc..

i think enough has been said about maguire, he's not cut out for top level football.
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post Mar 24 2022, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Mar 24 2022, 03:24 PM)
I dont really think the club asking him to win, could be only top 4 and compete..
I do think the club very much interested with the Ajax model of being a feeder club but still domestic champ..

To me the expectation should be win a trophy, any trophy in first 2 season.. fail that, get fired..

Back when he interviewed with Spurs, they found it weird that he dont have any plans to bring any of his backroom staff..
Carrick and McKenna will be back helping him?  brows.gif
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Target is always to win the domestic league and late stage of cups. Minimum is champions league placement and late knockout stages.

Candidates will state what is needed to secure the requirements and the club will provide. It's not a one way thing.

Club will state how much support is given and will provide a list of players that internal have already scouted. Manager will then decide if the player fits his system.

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