Finished player. Couldnt do anything in 5 mins when he is subbed in when we are trailing 2 goals behind.

For so many times I said VDB is a world-class player even not the best from Ole era, Mc Tom and Fred are both look like Kante and Carrick in Ole eyes

For now, RR is undermined by not only players but also the Board. He not dropping Maguire, Rashford, Mc Tom tho those players on too many occasions flops but because of commercial value and English/UK players

I dont see Man Utd coming back even we got world class goalkeeper and world-class striker

Man Utd is beyond to repair, pity to RR he cant do much favouritism is Man Utd new culture

For now only God can save United, not Pep, those managers will flop under Man Utd.

Bodohlah
Liverpool world champions
Chelsea world champions

And here we are, play like sampah, fa cup and league cup pun tak boleh sapu. Wtf

Post Sir Alex Era United had never been worse than now..

this thick faced 80m defender is clearly out of his depth. i think the commentators gonna have a field day looking at this


hi sir we can sign him for free next season he will improve our midfield for sure. but he needs to play in his best position, not throw in as a makeshift CDM zzz

This. Fans need to understand that an interim like RR is not allowed to just drop players like Maguire & Rashford.
Commercials dictates that these United DNA players must play. And even if you drop them, who are you going to play in place of Rashford? Martial's gone. Greenwood's finished. Lingard's almost gone. Mata's legs have gone. And you are left with academy prospects who you cannot just throw into the Premier League. RR has to play within the allowable guidelines that is set by the club. As interim, he cannot even bring in a player he needs (Zakaria at CDM) or let players leave who don't want to be here (Lingard who was blocked by the Board).

Van De Beek's performance? Most passes. Most tackles. Most touches. Most aerial duels won. Most possession in the middle of the pitch.
I started watching Everton games from last week for one reason and one reason only. Donny Van De Beek.

VDB is too good (intelligent) to play with mctominay/fred
VDB gameplay also totally diff than pogba/bruno that prefers to play killer balls (with less success)
In conclusion, VDB wasted 18 months at United under that retarded OGS

Only MU / Ole can fooled us by saying VDB is not physical enough for EPL.
Plus why the heck they think it's either VDB or Bruno in the starting line up? This guy can be the missing puzzle that link def and attack. with bruno and pogba it's always been long ball / through ball style. 1 out of 10 will lead to goal and they said world class (despite the other 9 were all rubbished). lol

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This post has been edited by KennRicky: Feb 13 2022, 05:06 PM

The interim manager u are talking, is not just interim manager.
He is going to be in management 4 months later.
Contract signed. Ya, consultant or whatever.

If he also can't drop either one, then no future manager can do it.
Provided most fans won't be fans of other clubs, so should we just stop watching football?

By the way, if by dropping those players, can come out results with wins streak.
And play them again to show the board and the world how bad they are.
And in the end secured CL place, then that will be an answer to the board.

I agree the board is money focusing, like to play politics.
That is why if RR can't even convince the board to let him drop at least Captain, by using theory of CL commercial $ value vs UK players $ value.
Then why we even need him in the board 4 months later.
It prove he is not good in politics either.

And even moron know Maguire value has dropped to the floor. He become a laughing stock for the world.
CL commercial $ value vs laughing stock $ value.
The baord like power and politics, but it is not they are moron.

Stop those management conspiracy theory.
RR is nowhere a top manager, that is a fact.

VDB is another proof, no more than 10 mins in the eyes of RR.
Not even a start, not even 30 mins even when Pogba + McTom (Fred) is injured.
He would rather use Matic + McTom (Fred).

If he can make VDB another world class Superstar who generate big commercial $ value with low salary.
The board will be more than happy.

This post has been edited by KennRicky: Feb 13 2022, 05:26 PM

Further more, if he can drop AWB, he can drop Captain or Rashford.

Even if the deal is "only can drop 1 English player in one match".
Then at least bring back AWB and drop Captain.
Dalot is better in attacking than AWB, but recently his crossing is not in form neither.
It is time to give some playing time to AWB anyway.

Stop those management conspiracy and only blame the players.
RR has responsibility as well.

This post has been edited by KennRicky: Feb 13 2022, 06:36 PM

Play good for 25mins then like schoolboy for rest of the game. As a fan who watch every match, this period is one of the worst post fergie. No expectation when watch, no motivation cause no trophy to chase and when no result, its actually kinda expected.

Nothing to fight for. Only ucl is interesting. Top 4 trophy is slipping away. I cant see any improvement post ole. Perfomance is very good in 25 mins, but its a 90 min game. So far we have been facing btm teams. I think will kena tear apart when facing top teams.

Fact rr is unsackable and interim makes things worst. Players just casually playing. Rr just try his best to see out the season. As long as not relagated, he can keep his seat.

Let me add some input to your angle based on what I know of the club. It is not just about being English. There is another dimension to it.
I will not go into detail why Maguire is playing because dropping the English captain of Manchester United is a huge political issue.

Let's talk Rashford or McTominay and why they are playing. Did you know whomever the manager is at least one of them needs to play unless we have academy players breaking into the starting eleven?
Manchester United has for the last 84 years, and over 4000 games, fielded an academy graduate in the matchday squad without fail. It is a record the club holds on to proudly. With Greenwood out, who are the academy graduates whom are in the first team currently? Rashford and McTominay. With the lack of academy graduates near the first team, it means regardless of how off form these two are, at least one of them will play in the starting eleven.

Elanga and Lingard

Actually even keep starting Rashford, no issue.
We knows, club politics.
And actually he is not that bad, still perform sometimes.

But if bad performance, can sub off earlier.
Not until 80 mins then only sub, Ole style.
Like I said, which manager will only sub in after 80 mins?
Only Ole and RR.

That is why I said, if too hard to drop, then at least sub off earlier.
Really that hard to sub him off at 65 ~ 70 mins?

And your reason of Lingard is going to leave after this season doesn't stand strong.
Pogba also same situation, and is 99% is going to leave as well.
I personally even believe it is 100%
But he still play as lineup, while Lingard only less than 10 mins.

And Donny case?
Come on la, I know RR is not that bad, just that far from good.
I don't like the point where all the blame all goes to players, but not at RR at all.

And from my perspective, I think dropping Rashford is a much more difficult political job than dropping Captain.

First, like u said, Rashford is an acedemy player, some more English.
Further more, he is also a philanthropy.

Most importantly, he is an MBE.
Something not even the board, but the Manchester people (except City fans) will be proud of.

Some non English fans playing fun of his MBE title.
But it is actually one of the highest title honored to a normal netizen.
MBE is under Order of the British Empire.
Let me list down some football figures who has been honored.
Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Zola, Lampard, Giggs, Bryan Robson, Gerard Houllier, Beckham, Steven Gerrard, Peter Schmeichel, Alan Shearer.

It is certainly not like our Dato titles, buy with money.
And he is the only few current active male football player with any OBE title, together with Kane, Jordan Henderson, and Sterling.

Some fans keep saying "sell him x 2, don't wanna see him anymore".
But I am 100% sure, the only way he can leave is he choose not to renew his contract and leave after contract end.
Or else there is absolutely no chance the board will sell him, not even to foreign country.
No matter the price, not even the manager request to sell, not even he personally request to be sold.
Just no way at all.


Captain?
Basically he is ALREADY found guilty of his crime by Greece court. Just that he appealed.
And due to Covid and slow procedure in Greece,
The appeal will only handled by Greece court later in 2023.

A criminal + a laughing stock + Non academy product + not England captain (luckily not) + doesn't has any special status outside the club.
I won't say it is easy, but compare to Rashford, add in those political factors, Rashford actually is more difficult to drop.

So it is not the situation that u said.
It is the opposite.
Dropping Rashford is much more difficult.

This post has been edited by KennRicky: Feb 14 2022, 04:50 AM

can we drop CR? his body quite heavy, slow reaction
the only positive side is his off ball movement

The club is no longer a football team that aiming for winning trophies 🏆 and glories 🥇
When the board is reluctant to spend in Jan and weakening the team by loaning out players. Everyone know that this season is as good as over.

When you have players that is untouchable in the club - remember when Ole have to come out and apologise to some player. Don’t expect them being drop from the starting lineup even if we change or get new manager.

The only hope for this season is UCL and what need to be done are to flush out these toxic players and give the armband to Ronaldo. Only he has the winning mentality to guide the team to the glories.

He has always been a volumes merchant, he scores loads from loads of chances, now we are expecting him to score with 2/3 chances. I feel the whole team has some issue rather than individuals even the fridge Maguire could play better if the team shape was better.

whose next?

ole = the OG
RR = ole 2.0
Pochettino = ole 3.0
Ten hag = ole 4.0
conte = ole 5.0

so many conspiracy theories..lulz

it is what it is man.. just watch the matches without emotion la.. United not gonna compete for titles anytime soon..

they said DVB dont have the physicality n intensity to play in EPL.. they prefer Scotland 3rd choice CB to play in United midfield..
Scotland got higher standard than United, the kid couldnt even play midfield for them..

thats just the way it goes n gonna be.. academy players n British players is the priority.. footballing IQ n abilities secondary..
as long as got high athleticism, run non stop, passion n desire..

support United but watch other team for entertaining football is the solution i think..