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post Sep 22 2025, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Sep 22 2025, 08:48 AM)
Usually housing loan subsidy or some car loan subsidy are for the higher level. Some stocks related benefit also for the higher benefits. Yeah, I think a lot of MNC also have other supplement benefits, which includes flexi hours, WFH, additional medical coverage
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I was not a high level staff and still got my loan subsidy for both housing loan & car loan (only condition is to prove you have a loan)

Those higher rank in the company got even more luxurious ones, meaning higher amount of money in form of allowance (but the condition is for eg. you cannot drive a Proton Saga you must drive a minimum certain criteria car then only they will entitle you for the allowance)

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post Sep 22 2025, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 04:28 PM)
I was not a high level staff and still got my loan subsidy for both housing loan & car loan (only condition is to prove you have a loan)

Those higher rank in the company got even more luxurious ones, meaning higher amount of money in form of allowance (but the condition is for eg. you cannot drive a Proton Saga you must drive a minimum certain criteria car then only they will entitle you for the allowance)
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I don't mean like very high. Sometimes some just 1-2x above the fresh to motivate the lower ranking staff to perform. Of course there are other MNCs which have it be it in entry level. For higher level some getting ~2K for the car allowance - so can easily get a 3 series or C Class.
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post Sep 22 2025, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Sep 22 2025, 04:40 PM)
I don't mean like very high. Sometimes some just 1-2x above the fresh to motivate the lower ranking staff to perform. Of course there are other MNCs which have it be it in entry level. For higher level some getting ~2K for the car allowance - so can easily get a 3 series or C Class.
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Mine was at entry level so yes it does exist

But not high amount like few thousand given to those Director level lah, enough to cover loan interest nia
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post Sep 22 2025, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 04:28 PM)
I was not a high level staff and still got my loan subsidy for both housing loan & car loan (only condition is to prove you have a loan)

Those higher rank in the company got even more luxurious ones, meaning higher amount of money in form of allowance (but the condition is for eg. you cannot drive a Proton Saga you must drive a minimum certain criteria car then only they will entitle you for the allowance)
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I got no subsidy for loan. Usually only those working in the banks get those perks.
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post Sep 22 2025, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 22 2025, 05:05 PM)
I got no subsidy for loan. Usually only those working in the banks get those perks.
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Well you are already appreciative for a basic health coverage so not hard tot ell you don't have one

Wrong again. I never worked with a bank, the one given me such benefit is not a financial institution
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post Sep 22 2025, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 22 2025, 12:11 PM)
Ramjade did mention that not all his trades are profitable as he did say he kena exercised before. Rare but still kena.
mtm will definitely swing; it’s just that he views his strategy as long-term profitable.

your friend's portfolio is performing great... looks like he didn’t cut exposure in April and managed to ride the big rally all the way till now.

eh eh...cannot cannot... don’t encourage the likes of RamJade to go fire... how are business owners supposed to score cheap labour?
Whenever someone succeed, spin tonnes of negative narratives to shame them. It’s never the firm’s fault, it’s always the employee too stupid.  lol  whistling.gif  brows.gif
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now in MNC a fresh grad rate is like RM4,000 some even more

and you're telling me you are uni grad & have multiple years of experience working in Klang Valley but only RM5,000, and only 30s

even me not in KV with limited number of MNC even I don't go approach also headhunter will call what

so it definately raise questions, not to shame or say him stupid

unless you're stuck in a non value added job or refuse to take a step further, I don't blame such person but come on then don't push the blame to company for not paying more
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post Sep 22 2025, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 05:16 PM)
now in MNC a fresh grad rate is like RM4,000 some even more

and you're telling me you are uni grad & have multiple years of experience working in Klang Valley but only RM5,000, and only 30s

even me not in KV with limited number of MNC even I don't go approach also headhunter will call what

so it definately raise questions, not to shame or say him stupid

unless you're stuck in a non value added job or refuse to take a step further, I don't blame such person but come on then don't push the blame to company for not paying more
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I didn't say I am in MNC. So like I said my salary is capped and there is nothing I can do about it. You have to accept it that not everyone can climb the corporate ladder and not everyone get MNC job it gets good paying jobs.

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post Sep 22 2025, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 22 2025, 05:23 PM)
I didn't say I am in MNC. So like I said my salary is capped and there is nothing I can do about it. You have to accept it that not everyone can climb the corporate ladder.
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Did I say you're in a MNC? I put that as a reference for a FRESH

And like I said it definately raise questions why is it capped

Either you refuse to grow, attitude problem, or simply you are contented with your job

But again, not saying you're wrong by not wanting to climb. But don't blame boss for "capping" your salary

No such thing as I want to stay in comfort zone but I want more money
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post Sep 22 2025, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 05:26 PM)
Did I say you're in a MNC? I put that as a reference for a FRESH

And like I said it definately raise questions why is it capped

Either you refuse to grow, attitude problem, or simply you are contented with your job

But again, not saying you're wrong by not wanting to climb. But don't blame boss for "capping" your salary

No such thing as I want to stay in comfort zone but I want more money
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Up to you if you don't want to believe me that my salary is capped no matter what I do.

It's not the boss. It the nature of the job where salary is capped no matter if you jump ship to another company. There is no way to move up unless you want to take up management job by taking an MBA.

I don't bother about salary anymore as investment is easier and less stressful than my job. Take the path of least resistance. I can make more via my investment so no point making my company more money as they never appreciate their workers anyway.

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post Sep 22 2025, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 22 2025, 05:29 PM)
Up to you if you don't want to believe me that my salary is capped no matter what I do.

I don't bother about salary anymore as investment is easier and less stressful than my job. Take the path of least resistance.
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LOL well no wonder your salary is capped
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post Sep 22 2025, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 05:32 PM)
LOL well no wonder your salary is capped
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Like I said

It's not the boss. It the nature of the job and industry where salary is capped no matter if you jump ship to another company. There is no way to move up unless you want to take up management job by taking an MBA.

As long as you got no MBA yeah your salary is capped. But do I want to take up management and be a bureaucrat? Nope.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 22 2025, 05:35 PM)
Like I said

It's not the boss. It the nature of the job and industry where salary is capped no matter if you jump ship to another company. There is no way to move up unless you want to take up management job by taking an MBA.

As long as you got no MBA yeah your salary is capped. But do I want to take up management and be a bureaucrat? Nope.
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Yeah then don't complain it is the boss that not paying

It is you wanting to stay at comfort zone

And wrong again

You sure must have an MBA for a Management position? Even those in my MNC co without MBA can be Senior Director

ok... now I know why you're capped


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post Sep 22 2025, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 05:40 PM)
Yeah then don't complain it is the boss that not paying

It is you wanting to stay at comfort zone

And wrong again

You sure must have an MBA for a Management position? Even those in my MNC co without MBA can be Senior Director

ok... now I know why you're capped
Broaden your mindddddddddd
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It's true. In my industry you need MBA. If not you are stuck. If you got no MBA, nobody wants you.😭

You are MNC, I am not.

That's why I see my seniors take MBA cause they want to move up to management role.

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post Sep 22 2025, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 22 2025, 05:44 PM)
It's true. In my industry you need MBA. If not you are stuck. If you got no MBA, nobody wants you.
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well it was your own choice nobody forced you to enter that industry right

too bad for you then

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 05:46 PM)
well it was your own choice nobody forced you to enter that industry right

too bad for you then

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You play with what cards you are dealt with.

That's why I focus on investment. Because in investment I got no capped. The capped is only by the market returns (which I cannot control) and my portfolio value (which I can control somewhat)

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Sep 22 2025, 08:51 AM)
Congrats. Are you the one who consistently contribute to EPF so that you can achieve FIRE?
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Thanks. Not sure if it was me, but i do contribute to EPF as much as i can. I don't fully rely on EPF, and i have others like FD, ASNB, etc.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 22 2025, 05:52 PM)
You play with what cards you are dealt with.

That's why I focus on investment. Because in investment I got no capped. The capped is only by the market returns (which I cannot control) and my portfolio value (which I can control somewhat)
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Well we were wondering why you said your salary was capped, and obviously your so called reasons is never convincing

nothing to do with your focus on investment that is not the concern, but well that's the only card you have to spin away from it so not gonna expect you to stop using it

nvm at least we know now grin.gif

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post Sep 22 2025, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 05:16 PM)
now in MNC a fresh grad rate is like RM4,000 some even more

and you're telling me you are uni grad & have multiple years of experience working in Klang Valley but only RM5,000, and only 30s

even me not in KV with limited number of MNC even I don't go approach also headhunter will call what

so it definately raise questions, not to shame or say him stupid

unless you're stuck in a non value added job or refuse to take a step further, I don't blame such person but come on then don't push the blame to company for not paying more
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Everything you said is fair and reasonable… but that doesn’t make his venting wrong either. His experience is his experience, and that’s valid to him.

Honestly, there must be a ton of reasons why the median salary in Malaysia is still around RM3K in 2025. I’ve been baffled about it myself. Water flows via the path of least resistance, rite?
Ramjade found something that works and stuck with it, and that’s the smart way to go.

When you compare 5K active income against passive income that’s 2–3x bigger, obviously passive is easier. But the real question is: would it be easier/more realistic to push active income from RM5K to RM15K, or continue improving on passive?

Anyway, this is a FIRE thread. His journey is an inspiring one in this context, and kudos to him for sharing it openly.
If he’d asked about career paths in a career thread, my advice would’ve been more career-focused smile.gif

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 22 2025, 10:19 PM)
Everything you said is fair and reasonable… but that doesn’t make his venting wrong either. His experience is his experience, and that’s valid to him.

Honestly, there must be a ton of reasons why the median salary in Malaysia is still around RM3K in 2025. I’ve been baffled about it myself since the day I started working here. Water flows via the path of least resistance, rite?
Ramjade found something that works and stuck with it, and that’s the smart way to go.

When you compare 5K active income against passive income that’s 2–3x bigger, obviously passive is easier. But the real question is: would it be easier to push active income from RM5K to RM15K, or to keep doubling down on passive?

Anyway, this is a FIRE thread. His journey is pretty inspirational in this context, and credit to him for being open enough to share.
If he’d asked about career paths in a career thread, my advice would’ve been more career-focused smile.gif
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Well from the beginning I mentioned it is not wrong wanting to be staying in comfort zone

But don't hope getting paid something lucrative if only want to do this and nothing more. That was what my message all about

And that is also why MY is stuck at low income because majority of the job nature doesn't involve high value add, mainly manufacturing from step A to step Z

Well yes this is FIRE thread, career and salary is also playing a part in the journey of FIRE

No salary to begin with unless got windfall + Daddykasi otherwise FIRE on what basis? grin.gif
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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 10:32 PM)
Well from the beginning I mentioned it is not wrong wanting to be staying in comfort zone

But don't hope getting paid something lucrative if only want to do this and nothing more. That was what my message all about

And that is also why MY is stuck at low income because majority of the job nature doesn't involve high value add, mainly manufacturing from step A to step Z

Well yes this is FIRE thread, career and salary is also playing a part in the journey of FIRE

No salary to begin with unless got windfall + Daddykasi otherwise FIRE on what basis? :grin:
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The traditional way like what I am doing. Earn a low salary, live like a B40 save and invest aggressively, make money work as efficient as possible. Discard any money instrument that is inefficient.

It will come a time where the investment part can and will take over the active income (like my case)

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