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coolguy_0925
post Jul 26 2022, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jul 26 2022, 07:30 PM)
dunno ler, my family said landlord don't like to rent to single old people.... risk of dying in their unit...

so owning a place, even if single .. is important lo....

Although I am inclined to rent , but as I get older, I do see their point....
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Another thing is

Landlord can ask for a raise after contract and this will definately take a hit on your cost of living

And with a fully paid house, you have one lesser thing to pay after you've retired
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post Jul 27 2022, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2022, 10:15 AM)
With supply > demand and more new supply, rental of most units is unlikely to rise in the foreseeable future.
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This kind of thing hard to really say

People also said house prices will come down, the bubble will burst

And now developers are going to increase price again

But for me not so much on the capital, just to have peace of mind without the need to worry about paying rent, I buy and pay my loan up

So after retirement, no need to think of one big chunk of expenses
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post Jul 30 2022, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 30 2022, 05:15 PM)
Just put into EPF. EPF giving 5-6%p.a
Unless you want to earn other country currency at 5-6%p.a but no capital protection.
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One issue is EPF max RM60k/year so it will take 10 years for him to dump his fund all in even if only RM600k
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post Aug 1 2022, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Aug 1 2022, 08:44 AM)
I wonder if there are other methods to increase this ie create own company or sole propietership to contribute?
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This option is a bit troublesome for me, unless you are running a genuine business

Having a company also have to ensure some statutory requirements are met
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post May 20 2023, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ May 19 2023, 05:30 PM)
Bro...the RM240k is a joke. Totally unrealistic. Their basis was based on decades ago and only been updated once or twice to the RM240k figures now.

When I was a kid, chap fan can be eaten for RM1. Now RM10 also cannot.

Yes, you need to do a calculation because everyone's assets are different. But if you want to live comfortably (and I mean no lavish lifestyle), RM 3 mil is roughly the net worth mount you will need in order to generate passive income PERPECTUALLY between RM5k to RM10k per month, depending on the type of assets your net worth is.

Sure you can get by with say RM500k....but you better find some source of active income and continue working and basically no retirement for you.

Here is a recent article on this issue. Although it's much lower than my calculations (because I want it runs PERPECTUALLY), this article at least set a much more realistic target even if you expect the retirement nest to dwindle down to zero but at least have 20 years to it. Again, RM240k is a joke.

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/retirement-...o-30-years.html
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wow RM10 also cannot get chap fan? er... KL?

QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ May 20 2023, 09:40 AM)
My hobbies needs a lot more time..learning electronics to refurbish retro computers, play piano/guitar, learn coding for retro machines (my background is coding), learn Japanese...all these needs loads of time and not simple...

And also need to clear all my backlogs of videogames....muahahahaha!

Where got time!

Having more money is meaningless for me...to me even if you add another zero behind my current net worth, it won't change my lifestyle. I have no desires for wasteful expensive stuff. Hopefully I can achieve Nirvana soon in a couple more lifetimes.
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Not everyone knows how to let go

After get 1 mil want 2 mil and keep chasing

Good that more and more now know life is not just about money

QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ May 20 2023, 09:52 AM)
Fark arrogant angmohs, I always say. Ptui!
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Sometimes it is the Asians who worship them that made them arrogant

Own people spoil market
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post Jun 24 2023, 02:14 PM

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As long as you are still restlessly worrying, thinking, debating how much how many zero at the back of your NW balance has to be for you to FIRE

You are not yet FIRE
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post Jul 4 2023, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jul 2 2023, 07:50 PM)
My friend's friend kena LHDN investigate...he runs an IT company....the LHDN officer told the guy..."Ini Kari lah...". laugh.gif
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Once kena audit, more or less something will be found

Whether is genuine mistake or ... is another story but they hardly go home empty handed
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post Jul 4 2023, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 4 2023, 05:29 PM)
guy3288 got audited 5x with lhdn and each time lhdn walk away empty handed.
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Just to clarify

I mean Company

Individual salaried man macam I also audited before

Auditor not even want to spend much time just asked for few docs then cleared me off
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post Jul 4 2023, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 4 2023, 09:28 PM)
Nobody likes  LHDN´s visits

They got their reasons and they dont have to reveal to us why
We cant avoid , may be just luck
may be people dengki
they also just do their job
and when they go back empty handed
we sort of received an approval stamp la.

more approval stamps  better lo...ha haha
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Possible the repetitive visits because early attempts empty.handed? he he

Did you engage tax agent? But I think event tax agent knows need to 'surrender' when kena as auditor also need to 'pass up homework'
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post Jul 5 2023, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 5 2023, 01:47 AM)
that i dont know,
but can see they audit accounts for almost every year 2011 2012 13 14 15 16 etc
2019 last, so may come again but  i am prepared

Co  accounts always need the whole team  tax agent, secretary, auditor  accountant
so they are around.

tax  cannot main main, must be prepared from beginning..
if  do hanky panky  sudah kena lo.

a good tax agent or auditor will not let  you kena
he will warn you before hand ie dont do that etc.
but sometimes i dont listen also, i take the risk

some auditors like robot, too straight
not thinking for clients
only want to be on the good book of LHDN
i dont like
we want max tax savings mah
if not why spending some 15k paying them yearly
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Your tax agent should handle the audit you just shake leg since you paid them 15k brows.gif
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post Feb 24 2025, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Feb 24 2025, 09:49 AM)
thanks!
good to know and kudos.

coz if you are in the 20s, that doesn't mean much.
but now that you are in you 50s, the expenses cost is low. kudos and i assume your housing and transportation is pretty much sorted too.
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Personally I prefer getting house loan settled before retiring

At least one thing less to worry about

But I believe there are people who are okay with continue paying housing loans and they have no problem since their passive income can cover that

About car, seems like at some point in time you need to replace it if you chose to FIRE

Because car is not like house, max says 20 or 25 years

So if you chose to FIRE at 40yo... most probably you need to prepare at least replacing it once
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post Mar 23 2025, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(trumpkampung @ Mar 22 2025, 09:35 PM)
3.ppl

current have 16k passive untouched with additional income 20k+ nett. 

20k - 8k -4k ( cars)-5k ( all expenses)

still can save 3-4k pm

Cars all.should.settle in 3.years.
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Other than the loans

RM5k for 3 pax (avg of RM1.7k per pax) is actually not high for all expenses presuming you live in KV
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post Mar 23 2025, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Mar 23 2025, 04:06 PM)
wanna ask, have you guys considered medical inflation and private insurance increasing cost that will eventually eat into your FIRE, or you have decided to go government hospitals for future care and let life takes its course ?
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I only take minimum just as an option for private next time, touch wood so far still don't need to use it

If really need in the future & couldn't afford private, will just go to Govt hospital
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post Mar 25 2025, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 25 2025, 10:58 AM)
According to wealth reports, only about 4% of adults in this country have over usd100k net worth. those could fi is few and far in between.
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Or: Just USD485k net worth you are already Malaysia TOP 1%

Wonder any update to these numbers as I believe it was done few years back (2023?)
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post Mar 25 2025, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Mar 25 2025, 10:50 PM)
Networth or income? Almost 2M and become Top 1%?
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https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...es-rm161m/71679
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post Mar 25 2025, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Mar 25 2025, 11:08 PM)
Malaysia standard so low  sweat.gif
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Because Malaysians' lifestyle are sustained by debt, one of the reasons why OPR cannot simply go up
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post Apr 21 2025, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 21 2025, 11:34 PM)
understand... very rare to know of a person that is ok to drawdown on principal...
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Not really rare

I also plan to touch principal at some point of time

Last week I spoke to one old friend who asked me why I keep money, and I said 1. inflation 2. old folks home is not cheap

He said, he is expecting his son to do it unless he is able to become rich later on

So, I don't intend to burden anyone

But at the same time I wish to use up some of my money

How much? Only God knows and if any balance then that's my beneficiary's bonus
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post Apr 22 2025, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 22 2025, 04:52 PM)
Yeah. That's why I earlier said rare for drawdown of principal.
But it turns out depends on how one view it.

Cos if got large leftover upon us kicking the bucket, did we really planned to drawdown on the principal?
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Well if your passive income is thick enough to cover all your expenses even you decided to go for a luxurious lifestyle

I think this issue will not arise, you don't need to touch your principal & your kids will say thank you very much grin.gif
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post Sep 8 2025, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 8 2025, 06:07 PM)
50X? that is really really conservative.... as it is just 2% wr...

i guess if one is really young... this can be a good justification for such conservative spending.... and can gradually increase one's wr as one ages.
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As Chinese said: Touch wood 人在天堂 钱在银行
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post Sep 9 2025, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 9 2025, 12:04 AM)
Well… I also lean towards both your views; a lower SWR than 4% when I first FIRE’d.

Now, if I reset my spending budget to today’s portfolio value and apply a 4% SWR, my budget would jump by 150%.
That either means I could have afforded a higher SWR earlier… or that I can now reset to an even higher SWR, say 5% or 6%.

If set SWR to 2%, then really can throw bulk into EPF and chill.... EPF min div is 2.5% already...
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err that's not what it actually meant but nvm grin.gif

and since you mentioned your actual SWR I calculated mine using my last 12 months withdrawal over total invested... 0.75% sweat.gif

guess I need to go back to look at my spending already

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