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FI/RE - Financial Independence / Retire Early
FI/RE - Financial Independence / Retire Early
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Sep 21 2025, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Sep 21 2025, 08:50 PM) That is what i meant, got to walk away even still has the capability to earn money. Good luck.Next year will be my final year of working QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 21 2025, 09:28 PM) At least now we know why some Malaysian companies still can survive today by offering salary & benefits that barely meet labour law requirement :grin: Ya lo. HolyCooler liked this post
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Sep 21 2025, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 21 2025, 09:42 PM) IndeedCan't blame them, supply & demand Offering bare minimum still people come on time everyday to earn money for me What reason should I increase the $$$ * It helps the bosses reach FI / RE faster This post has been edited by coolguy_0925: Sep 21 2025, 09:51 PM wongmunkeong and Wedchar2912 liked this post
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Sep 21 2025, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 21 2025, 09:45 PM) Indeed Actually now my company is better than the old one. Can't blame them, supply & demand Offering bare minimum still people come on time everyday to earn money for me What reason should I increase the $$$ No more working like a donkey, leaves and public holiday is counted as extra hours, medical coverage for myself, spouse and kids. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 21 2025, 09:51 PM |
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Sep 21 2025, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 21 2025, 09:50 PM) Actually now my company is better than the old one. Like I said previouslyNo more working like a donkey, leaves and public holiday is counted as extra hours, medical coverage for myself, spouse and kids These are bare minimum for an MNC Nothing to sing about Wait till you get flexi benefits (spectacles, personal insurance, gym), extra AL, Work from Home, ESOS, housing loan subsidy, car loan subsidy, winter clothing allowance for BT dan lain-lain Yawns... This post has been edited by coolguy_0925: Sep 21 2025, 09:55 PM |
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Sep 21 2025, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 21 2025, 09:45 PM) Indeed lol... good one! Can't blame them, supply & demand Offering bare minimum still people come on time everyday to earn money for me What reason should I increase the $$$ * It helps the bosses reach FI / RE faster coolguy_0925 liked this post
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Sep 21 2025, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Sep 21 2025, 08:59 PM) Still on track but slight delayed. Will be around next year Q1. (I am a Chinese's destiny / fengshui believer, next year will be my good year of money (able to earn / save more money), too bad, haha) Haha… then maybe you’d want to retire fully before Feb 4, and officially start managing your own money — that way you can immediately maximize returns for yourself. In other words, 100% of your effort goes straight into your own pocket.So far my heart still feel a bit sad every time thinking about will be leaving my subordinates, this part plays a big part of me delaying my plan previously. P/S a few people replied me, but the system only informed me there is 1 notification... Made me didn't reply in multi quotes. Think about it… if you’re still working for others, whatever you maximize benefits your boss first, and only part of it flows back to you. But if it’s your own money, the full credit goes to you. Don't waste the bazi luck... Hehe. HolyCooler liked this post
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Sep 22 2025, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Sep 21 2025, 09:32 PM) Mid of 40.QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 21 2025, 09:42 PM) ThanksQUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 21 2025, 10:08 PM) Haha… then maybe you’d want to retire fully before Feb 4, and officially start managing your own money — that way you can immediately maximize returns for yourself. In other words, 100% of your effort goes straight into your own pocket. Wouldn't work anymore, retired really means fully retired. My time will be fully on hobbies + sleeping until wake up naturally + yumchar with friends Think about it… if you’re still working for others, whatever you maximize benefits your boss first, and only part of it flows back to you. But if it’s your own money, the full credit goes to you. Don't waste the bazi luck... Hehe. barista, Wedchar2912, and 2 others liked this post
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Sep 22 2025, 01:02 AM
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Sep 22 2025, 03:34 AM
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Sep 22 2025, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 22 2025, 03:34 AM) Has it ever occured to you that it could be ur problem ? You know you have a way out of working hard at ur job, so you choose to do things your way, you talk too much…. And pissed-off your colleagues & mgmt ? You do know that that I have look and look. There is no way to increase income as a salaries person in my job. What I am earning ow is like max earning already. I will just keep it to that.The only other way is start a business. To me the job is a dead area. Can't get higher pay. Let me focus on my investment. That way I can maximise my investment returns by making money work as efficiently. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 22 2025, 08:11 AM |
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Sep 22 2025, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 21 2025, 09:54 PM) Like I said previously Usually housing loan subsidy or some car loan subsidy are for the higher level. Some stocks related benefit also for the higher benefits. Yeah, I think a lot of MNC also have other supplement benefits, which includes flexi hours, WFH, additional medical coverageThese are bare minimum for an MNC Nothing to sing about Wait till you get flexi benefits (spectacles, personal insurance, gym), extra AL, Work from Home, ESOS, housing loan subsidy, car loan subsidy, winter clothing allowance for BT dan lain-lain Yawns... |
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Sep 22 2025, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Sep 22 2025, 01:00 AM) Mid of 40. Congrats. Are you the one who consistently contribute to EPF so that you can achieve FIRE?Thanks Wouldn't work anymore, retired really means fully retired. My time will be fully on hobbies + sleeping until wake up naturally + yumchar with friends HolyCooler liked this post
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Sep 22 2025, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 21 2025, 09:45 PM) Indeed that sounds more like you are siding employers.... you cant blame the employers??? Can't blame them, supply & demand Offering bare minimum still people come on time everyday to earn money for me What reason should I increase the $$$ * It helps the bosses reach FI / RE faster implying employees are the one stupid lah?.... go be slaves ...despite being bullied? bro what era is this now? sudah 2025 lo! to be a slave for your employer is your own choosing... why you go sign the dotted line.... QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 21 2025, 09:58 PM) what is so good there when all you wanted is to hit back at your employers unwittingly hit yourself...on the employee........think again bro.. |
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 22 2025, 08:05 AM) You do know that that I have look and look. There is no way to increase income as a salaries person in my job. What I am earning ow is like max earning already. I will just keep it to that. From what I gathered, u seems to always profit from your investment, your capital appreciation + options profit always +ve? Total always trending up?The only other way is start a business. To me the job is a dead area. Can't get higher pay. Let me focus on my investment. That way I can maximise my investment returns by making money work as efficiently. I got a friend who also did that but his portfolio balance is up & down. Everytime we met I like to ask him what is his Balance. It was up & down like 200k(Feb2024) >350k > 250k > 400k> 300K(April2025)> 600k(Aug2025) so in 20 months balance has grown 3x. Why dont u quit your job n go into herbs n organic planting cos leasing land is quite cheap and needs low capital. Where r u located? |
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Sep 22 2025, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 22 2025, 10:21 AM) From what I gathered, u seems to always profit from your investment, your capital appreciation + options profit always +ve? Total always trending up? Short answer is.....I got a friend who also did that but his portfolio balance is up & down. Everytime we met I like to ask him what is his Balance. It was up & down like 200k(Feb2024) >350k > 250k > 400k> 300K(April2025)> 600k(Aug2025) so in 20 months balance has grown 3x. Why dont u quit your job n go into herbs n organic planting cos leasing land is quite cheap and needs low capital. Where r u located? not easy to be an employer aka..be a business owner One in here has been trying to hit out at business owners when we work for some one We ask what is the worth of my own work Not how much my employer earns from my work Negotiate your own value not your company's balance sheet Your leverage comes from the demand for your own abilities , Not your employer's revenue . This post has been edited by guy3288: Sep 22 2025, 05:54 PM |
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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 22 2025, 10:21 AM) From what I gathered, u seems to always profit from your investment, your capital appreciation + options profit always +ve? Total always trending up? Ramjade did mention that not all his trades are profitable as he did say he kena exercised before. Rare but still kena.I got a friend who also did that but his portfolio balance is up & down. Everytime we met I like to ask him what is his Balance. It was up & down like 200k(Feb2024) >350k > 250k > 400k> 300K(April2025)> 600k(Aug2025) so in 20 months balance has grown 3x. Why dont u quit your job n go into herbs n organic planting cos leasing land is quite cheap and needs low capital. Where r u located? mtm will definitely swing; it’s just that he views his strategy as long-term profitable. your friend's portfolio is performing great... looks like he didn’t cut exposure in April and managed to ride the big rally all the way till now. eh eh...cannot cannot... don’t encourage the likes of RamJade to go fire... how are business owners supposed to score cheap labour? Whenever someone succeed, spin tonnes of negative narratives to shame them. It’s never the firm’s fault, it’s always the employee too stupid. lol |
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 22 2025, 12:11 PM) Gosh that is what you would do ?to successful business owners or to employees? tell me how shaming people can make yourself successful instead say lah is just in your dengki mind if not , share the posts here... tonnes of them.... ??? shouldn't be difficult to pull out one or 2 examples right? QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 22 2025, 12:11 PM) read this post bro, what did it mean?cant blame the employers.... QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 21 2025, 09:45 PM) Indeed isnt that means employees stupidCan't blame them, supply & demand Offering bare minimum still people come on time everyday to earn money for me offered bare min still accept..? ada gun pointed to his head kah? |
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Sep 22 2025, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 22 2025, 10:21 AM) From what I gathered, u seems to always profit from your investment, your capital appreciation + options profit always +ve? Total always trending up? If you do dividend stocks purely you can still make loss but very rare if you focus on high quality companies and hodl long term. No selling or chicken out.I got a friend who also did that but his portfolio balance is up & down. Everytime we met I like to ask him what is his Balance. It was up & down like 200k(Feb2024) >350k > 250k > 400k> 300K(April2025)> 600k(Aug2025) so in 20 months balance has grown 3x. Why dont u quit your job n go into herbs n organic planting cos leasing land is quite cheap and needs low capital. Where r u located? If you do options, you will have to take losses here and there. Cannot run away from it. But for me, any losses I incur is cover up by my wins. In simple words my wins is like 80-90% in line with statistics. You cannot run away. Like insurance companies you need to payout here and there every now and then. No insurance company will want to payout but it is inevitable. Same thing here. That's why I combine both strategies. Buy and hodl high quality companies with min gross profit margin of 40% QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 22 2025, 12:11 PM) Ramjade did mention that not all his trades are profitable as he did say he kena exercised before. Rare but still kena. Yup that is right. There will be losses. As long as the wins is higher than the losses and I mean way way higher you always be nett positive. Use statistics as your friend.mtm will definitely swing; it’s just that he views his strategy as long-term profitable. your friend's portfolio is performing great... looks like he didn’t cut exposure in April and managed to ride the big rally all the way till now. eh eh...cannot cannot... don’t encourage the likes of RamJade to go fire... how are business owners supposed to score cheap labour? Whenever someone succeed, spin tonnes of negative narratives to shame them. It’s never the firm’s fault, it’s always the employee too stupid. lol Don't worry. Lots of people in Malaysia never heard of FIRE. So I am one of those rare breeds. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 22 2025, 05:04 PM Wedchar2912 liked this post
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