I think you need to know what the situation is. I do this on a daily basis. I recruit people. I see people faking salary slips everyday. Now, most people who earn RM 3k. When asked how much they are earning some would say RM 3.5k and they are looking for something which pays an additional 20% more. When I get their pay slips, the actual pay is only RM 3k however many always say they earn via casual labor / OT is paid in cash by bosses sometimes and I don't even bother. Yes, they do want to earn more and that is normal. However, there are many people who want the easy way out, salary RM 3k however they put in the slip as RM 8k. This is not acceptable and should be stopped.

If he did not falsify? I WILL HIRE HIM. As I have said before, I know some mutual people wo work with them and for the job they do, no, they don't get RM 10k plus. It's RM 3.5k - 5k. Stating it's 10k is NOT RIGHT. Do we have a huge budget yes. Should we pay if they are telling the truth? Yes, why not. If they really are getting paid that much at their young age with not much experience, it means they are probably the most amazing guys in the company.

The problem is, these guys are average staff. The interview wasn't superb but then again who is? I was still willing to say "Okay, let's just hire with a 20% increase as what they wanted" So now, this means I would have to pay them RM 12k plus? I'm not hiring a VP. I'm looking for a normal ops associate. This faking of the salary has to stop and the reason it hasn't is because everything is confidential which means everyone has that opportunity to lie.

Actually nobody is saying that faking payslips is an ethical thing to do. We all agree with you on that.

The question is, say these 2 candidates have the correct skillset and experience for your role, then why is their previous salary important?

a) If they are willing to take the band you offer - then no problem
b) if their (possibly faked) salary is above the band you offer - you move on to the next candidate

This is the part that all of us are asking and you are not answering why not just do this

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well,.. u expected kopitards to know falsifying documents is a felony ??..

but it's your own HR's faults not to verify the documents authenticity b4 hiring,.. checking behind the staff offended their privacy,.. go ask him directly to give EPF statement,.. only he can print statement not other people,..if not complying then cut short his probation,.. if prove he's innocent then your suspicious is wrong,.. go buy him lunch to say sorry,...

u so n00b as HR ??.. if i'm the boss i fire u instead of him,..

Ts face thick like our politicians and keep on putar. Kejap HR, kejap headhunter, kejap work for many companies

This post has been edited by estcin: Oct 6 2021, 04:36 PM

You my friend are definitely not the smartest guy in this room. Yes, I do know the pay slips are fake. I am 99.9% sure. How? I recruit on a daily basis. Now let me give you an example, someone who works in a call center would make RM 1.8k. If tomorrow they applied for another call center and they said their current pay is RM 7k and they are looking for an additional 20%. What would you ask them next? Would you say "wow, you must be great at picking up calls. Are you sure 20% is enough? Would you like a 30% instead". Maybe you would say something like that just by looking at your lack of knowledge and understanding but what I am saying is yes, there should be a way for hiring companies to gain access to what someone was paid in the past. When you accept a job for RM 2k and stay in a company for 10 years with that same pay, don't expect to come out and tell everyone because of your 10 years experience you deserve RM 15k and it's your bosses fault. Please don't be a loser. If you had that salary and stayed in the company it means you know damn well that you're not the best staff around and that is all what people are willing to pay you even after working for 10 years.

If you think you should get more or can get more, then leave after a year. Why stay for 10 years with a low salary and then come out and fake your slip trying to justify you should have been paid higher? Come on. Don't lie.

thats just really sloppy.

Kopitards don't know anything. Everyone knows that.

I think you need to fire yourself. It seems you didn't even read what this whole thing was about. They were never hired and aren't going to be hired.

TS also same, if so smart then no need open tered here ask how to solve. If so smart then won't go invade candidate privacy and breach PDPA

Yes, I'm like Trump

sorry cant keep up with the posts....just wanted to know...how much they faked thier selip vs how much you think they are worth?

Looks like TS never answered these questions and keep putar putar

Yes, the max actually if RM 7k and even then it's with at least 5 years experience. These guys have 3 years. Now, if you start with 3k you don't go to RM 10k in 3 years. By the way, like I said I know other mutual people in that same department and I know the max is RM 5k in that department and even that is for the assistant manager. These 2 guys are not earning double of their boss. LOL

It's not checking for only these 2 guys. I recruit daily. I mean there has to be an easier to spot fake slips. The reason why its happening is because everything is confidential.

Mat7 sohai? Work hard la. Cibai guys like you just want to lie about your salary. Fcuk yourself.

not hiring,.. then what u ranting about ??..

u think i'm your fans gonna read 32 pages to know how u fuk up your own job ???.. if u the boss,... wakakakaka,... good luck for your business ,..

Who said I want to hire? You need to get the facts right. I am asking how do I determine if someone salary is fake. Are there ways? What is the easiest way?

You must be bigger losers than they are! You "Liked" your own comment, dumbass. lol

Yes, my salary now still 2k.

Since TS already 99.9999% sure they are fake, why bother open tered to ask? TS soar high or what.

This is going to go on till it's 50 pages long.