Pretty sure this is trying to low ball a potential candidate that they cannot afford to hire.

Want top talent but don't want to pay the appropriate price for it.

The candidate honesty is not their business if they don't want to hire him. On the other hand, why do they insist on hiring this candidate if he is proven to be dishonest?

Lol, u need to know their past salary to judge their experience and qualifications. Past salary u cant fake. Just check their epf statements and bank statement u will know d.

Past experience and qualifications can be easily faked.

For example if a candidate says he is top and best performing sales but the salary only 4k averagely a month, will u offer 8k ? Obviously no.

Dude, you need to get the facts right. Yes, I do want to hire them because I want to help people however people have to be HONEST. When everything was carried out I more or less knew that in that department, the salary for the experience they have is about RM 4k - RM 5k. Every company has company equity. If you look at a call center for example, all people who have the same role have a certain salary range. Most will have RM 2k and the lower ones maybe RM 1.8k and the ones who have a high salary in that same role might have RM 2.5k maybe. You won't see a guy in that same department getting RM 10k no? This is common sense.

Now, when everything was discussed, I did not ask upfront how much they earned because I don't really care and it doesn't bother me since I know how much I am going to offer anyway. Now, they should be getting about RM 4k - RM 5.5k at most. I just asked them to email me IC, 3 months pay slap and certifications. The salary slip is RM 10k+. Now, these 2 are not superstars. For their age and experience, I am pretty sure their salary is half.

Now, they asked in the call for at least 20% increase from what they are getting. I verbally just agreed and said I would need their pay slips and when they emailed, I saw RM 10k+ which means I would need to offer them RM 12k. Is that a problem for the company? No. We can even pay more but this is NOT BEING HONEST. These kind of people should be exposed. I don't think it's right for anyone to exploit the system and the reason people do it is because everything is confidential. That is the bloody problem.

2011 he said he second year student got another 3 years to go

2012 boost got 2 degrees already

lotsa experience in Bs. I guess
u can read, but to belip?

lel

if want top talent, then you gotta be prepared to pay top dollar.

if the candidate is really talented, then he/she would have been paid pretty well.

again, honesty of a candidate is what i sought when i interview people.

but, i agree, we should pay based on his/her capabilities and not just based on past historical wage/salary.

So your max budget was RM5.5k * 120% = RM6.6k

If their payslip of RM12k is fake = you will not hire
If their payslip of RM12k is real, you would need to pay RM12k * 120% = RM14.4k = you will not hire
So why bother checking if the outcome is the same regardless?

It sounds like you're just trying to cover up for your own error in verbally agreeing to something without checking
It is now your fault for over committing

if want top talent, then you gotta be prepared to pay top dollar.

if the candidate is really talented, then he/she would have been paid pretty well.

again, honesty of a candidate is what i sought when i interview people.

but, i agree, we should pay based on his/her capabilities and not just based on past historical wage/salary.

What are the odds that 2 people somehow interviewed for the same role in same company, gave the same salary slip that showed they faked their salary by 35% less?

You know he just tok kok la. "I asked a friend", another bullshit. If I ask you about your peers' pay, you probably can agak a couple of people but you can't give me exactly what others are earning, let alone two random person.

Why obviously no?
Sometimes candidate work hard, long hours and constantly delivering but salary cam taik. Wanna jump, but no opportunity. And when finally got opportunity, new company wanna give shit increment based on past salary? Lol what tokok nonsense is this. Deswei Malaysia salary sucks balls

If u work hard and constantly delivering , impossible ur salary is low. If you are superstar, u will be paid accordingly. I myself started with only 2.5k basic + comm. Worked my ass up. Within 2 years i was getting about 10k monthly basic + comm. Now of course much more than that. Thats why people say, if you are going to work hard, be very sure that your boss knows about it. Dont try to work in silence.

Every co that i have been to, they will always pay u according to your past salary + 10-20%.

I stand for what's right. Sorry, I don't have the same thoughts as you to lie and scam people.

My company is hiring 2 people and the salary slip they showed shows a very high pay. Now, I know from another mutual friend in the previous company that these 2 guys are working from that their salary is probably 35% less. I actually called up KWSP / EPF to find out based on their EPF number and SOCSO number however they refused to let my HR team get the previous information about this. How can I make a report to get KWSP / EPF to give me historical information on their previous salary?

I was thinking of asking my friend who works in an MNC to try submit their documents saying that he wants to hire them and that he wants to do a background check. Since he works in a well established MNC, I was wondering if KWSP / EPF will disclose this information. Thank you.

Dude, you need to get the facts right. Yes, I do want to hire them because I want to help people however people have to be HONEST. When everything was carried out I more or less knew that in that department, the salary for the experience they have is about RM 4k - RM 5k. Every company has company equity. If you look at a call center for example, all people who have the same role have a certain salary range. Most will have RM 2k and the lower ones maybe RM 1.8k and the ones who have a high salary in that same role might have RM 2.5k maybe. You won't see a guy in that same department getting RM 10k no? This is common sense.

Now, when everything was discussed, I did not ask upfront how much they earned because I don't really care and it doesn't bother me since I know how much I am going to offer anyway. Now, they should be getting about RM 4k - RM 5.5k at most. I just asked them to email me IC, 3 months pay slap and certifications. The salary slip is RM 10k+. Now, these 2 are not superstars. For their age and experience, I am pretty sure their salary is half.

Now, they asked in the call for at least 20% increase from what they are getting. I verbally just agreed and said I would need their pay slips and when they emailed, I saw RM 10k+ which means I would need to offer them RM 12k. Is that a problem for the company? No. We can even pay more but this is NOT BEING HONEST. These kind of people should be exposed. I don't think it's right for anyone to exploit the system and the reason people do it is because everything is confidential. That is the bloody problem.

Good for you and your achievements. But do you really think this applies to everyone? Everyone, every industry, every level can climb up so easily? You live in a bubble is it?

That's the problem with Malaysia, everything wanna low-ball.

You should hire based on experience and qualification not past history..

many countries ban past salary slip checking