falsifying document aint good candidate,.. u know why ??

please share moreeee......

a lot here are only condemning the act of TS in trying to find out how much was the real salary of the candidate's pay.

meanwhile, indirectly endorsing that falsifying document(s) is permissible, allowable, perfectly fine and is not what something a company should be focusing on.

Dude, you need to get the facts right. Yes, I do want to hire them because I want to help people however people have to be HONEST. When everything was carried out I more or less knew that in that department, the salary for the experience they have is about RM 4k - RM 5k. Every company has company equity. If you look at a call center for example, all people who have the same role have a certain salary range. Most will have RM 2k and the lower ones maybe RM 1.8k and the ones who have a high salary in that same role might have RM 2.5k maybe. You won't see a guy in that same department getting RM 10k no? This is common sense.

Now, when everything was discussed, I did not ask upfront how much they earned because I don't really care and it doesn't bother me since I know how much I am going to offer anyway. Now, they should be getting about RM 4k - RM 5.5k at most. I just asked them to email me IC, 3 months pay slap and certifications. The salary slip is RM 10k+. Now, these 2 are not superstars. For their age and experience, I am pretty sure their salary is half.

Now, they asked in the call for at least 20% increase from what they are getting. I verbally just agreed and said I would need their pay slips and when they emailed, I saw RM 10k+ which means I would need to offer them RM 12k. Is that a problem for the company? No. We can even pay more but this is NOT BEING HONEST. These kind of people should be exposed. I don't think it's right for anyone to exploit the system and the reason people do it is because everything is confidential. That is the bloody problem.

please share moreeee......

a lot here are only condemning the act of TS in trying to find out how much was the real salary of the candidate's pay.

meanwhile, indirectly endorsing that falsifying document(s) is permissible, allowable, perfectly fine and is not what something a company should be focusing on.

please share moreeee......

a lot here are only condemning the act of TS in trying to find out how much was the real salary of the candidate's pay.

meanwhile, indirectly endorsing that falsifying document(s) is permissible, allowable, perfectly fine and is not what something a company should be focusing on.

He has zero proof anyone is falsifying anything. This is just a straw man argument.

What you have is someone accusing two different individuals of falsifying documents without a shred of proof other than "trust me bro" ...

So you are indirectly endorsing that employers should have full right to view your personal financial standing without your permission given that is what TS want to do but can't?

HR actually can directly ask the staff for his EPF copy,.. not get directly from EPF office,.. if he don't comply then stop short his probation,..

Why wanna do stupid things like this ? Hire based in his skillset and your budget.

He has zero proof anyone is falsifying anything. This is just a straw man argument.

What you have is someone accusing two different individuals of falsifying documents without a shred of proof other than "trust me bro" ...

So you are indirectly endorsing that employers should have full right to view your personal financial standing without your permission given that is what TS want to do but can't?

u hire people, u didn't judge honesty ??.. just skillset and budget ??

Honesty ? Of course but from business perspective, i have no time to pour unwanted money and time. Market is big. Always got other candidates

so u willing to take dishonest staff b'cos your HR don't have time,.. ??.. good luck to your company,...