What is this? Pay peanuts but don't want to get monkeys?
Want to catch fake pay slip, How to catch fake pay slip
Want to catch fake pay slip, How to catch fake pay slip
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 10:17 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
661 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Legio Titanicus |
What is this? Pay peanuts but don't want to get monkeys?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 10:59 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
13,799 posts Joined: Jan 2006 From: stress & confuse world |
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:10 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
5,529 posts Joined: Oct 2007 |
QUOTE(Seager @ Oct 4 2021, 11:26 PM) Eh bro it's not about lowballing. It's about honesty, if they can lie about this, they can lie on many things. If you think they are good, just pay la If you have doubt, then don't hire.. easy Why you spoil market like this die2 Wanna lowball? You probably already know their salary expectation, and if you couldn't even make it back then, why even ask them come interview? Won't mind paying them if they are clean and capable. |
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:12 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
687 posts Joined: Jul 2010 |
Drop je candidate tu, not worth to bring in timing BOM
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:12 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
407 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:15 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,902 posts Joined: Sep 2012 |
QUOTE(fuzzy @ Oct 6 2021, 01:27 AM) I doubt sothis fella lupa makan ubat one lah |
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:16 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,514 posts Joined: Jan 2011 |
QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 6 2021, 11:10 AM) it's not about lowballing. It's about honesty, if they can lie about this, they can lie on many things. Bro.. it's all about low-balling la, it's obvious. Won't mind paying them if they are clean and capable. Like I said, if have doubt then don't hire, easy. TS is hell bent on breaking PDPA just to prove these candidates are liars. What does that speak of his own honesty and integrity? |
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:17 AM
|
![]()
Junior Member
34 posts Joined: Apr 2015 |
Why are company so butthurt about employee payslip?
If you think they overpay then offer what you think is appropriate or don't hire them if you cannot afford to. Employees too have the rights to reject you if they think you are offering them peanuts or you just try to lowball them. |
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:18 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
117 posts Joined: Dec 2017 |
Tered backfired
Its time to send TS back to pakistan haha |
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:18 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
7,106 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
QUOTE(Seager @ Oct 6 2021, 11:16 AM) Bro.. it's all about low-balling la, it's obvious. The irony of spending way more time and money to save that few hundred ringgit that he could have just given and let them prove their worth. Like I said, if have doubt then don't hire, easy. TS is hell bent on breaking PDPA just to prove these candidates are liars. What does that speak of his own honesty and integrity? |
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:19 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
5,529 posts Joined: Oct 2007 |
QUOTE(Seager @ Oct 6 2021, 11:16 AM) Bro.. it's all about low-balling la, it's obvious. lying is just not as honest. Like I said, if have doubt then don't hire, easy. TS is hell bent on breaking PDPA just to prove these candidates are liars. What does that speak of his own honesty and integrity? but i agree with you, if in doubt, then don't hire. |
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:19 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
7,106 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:20 AM
|
![]()
Junior Member
34 posts Joined: Apr 2015 |
QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 6 2021, 11:10 AM) it's not about lowballing. It's about honesty, if they can lie about this, they can lie on many things. Pretty sure this is trying to low ball a potential candidate that they cannot afford to hire.Won't mind paying them if they are clean and capable. Want top talent but don't want to pay the appropriate price for it. The candidate honesty is not their business if they don't want to hire him. On the other hand, why do they insist on hiring this candidate if he is proven to be dishonest? |
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:20 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
407 posts Joined: Aug 2011 |
QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 5 2021, 10:21 PM) Dude, you need to get the facts right. Yes, I do want to hire them because I want to help people however people have to be HONEST. When everything was carried out I more or less knew that in that department, the salary for the experience they have is about RM 4k - RM 5k. Every company has company equity. If you look at a call center for example, all people who have the same role have a certain salary range. Most will have RM 2k and the lower ones maybe RM 1.8k and the ones who have a high salary in that same role might have RM 2.5k maybe. You won't see a guy in that same department getting RM 10k no? This is common sense. Bolded parts already shown TS wanna lowball them. Why still wanna hire them when they are dishonest? Just find new candidates who are honest with lower pay, problem solved. No proof but say ppl fake payslip, based on friend's hearsay. Topkek Now, when everything was discussed, I did not ask upfront how much they earned because I don't really care and it doesn't bother me since I know how much I am going to offer anyway. Now, they should be getting about RM 4k - RM 5.5k at most. I just asked them to email me IC, 3 months pay slap and certifications. The salary slip is RM 10k+. Now, these 2 are not superstars. For their age and experience, I am pretty sure their salary is half. Now, they asked in the call for at least 20% increase from what they are getting. I verbally just agreed and said I would need their pay slips and when they emailed, I saw RM 10k+ which means I would need to offer them RM 12k. Is that a problem for the company? No. We can even pay more but this is NOT BEING HONEST. These kind of people should be exposed. I don't think it's right for anyone to exploit the system and the reason people do it is because everything is confidential. That is the bloody problem. RViN liked this post
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:21 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,514 posts Joined: Jan 2011 |
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:23 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,902 posts Joined: Sep 2012 |
QUOTE(fuzzy @ Oct 6 2021, 11:19 AM) He has talked about his business of importing or exporting some shit to Pakistan so I think he is from there la. Just have family connection here. ![]() 2011 he said he second year student got another 3 years to go 2012 boost got 2 degrees already lotsa experience in Bs. I guess u can read, but to belip? lel |
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:24 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,902 posts Joined: Sep 2012 |
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:25 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
7,106 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:27 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,902 posts Joined: Sep 2012 |
|
|
|
Oct 6 2021, 11:29 AM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#560
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
316 posts Joined: Aug 2021 |
QUOTE(holypredator @ Oct 4 2021, 10:11 PM) You should hire based on experience and qualification not past history.. Lol, u need to know their past salary to judge their experience and qualifications. Past salary u cant fake. Just check their epf statements and bank statement u will know d.many countries ban past salary slip checking Past experience and qualifications can be easily faked. For example if a candidate says he is top and best performing sales but the salary only 4k averagely a month, will u offer 8k ? Obviously no. |
| Change to: | 0.0237sec
1.42
6 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 23rd December 2025 - 01:01 PM |