Is there any 8series AGP card that is around at par level with AGP 7300GT from Galaxy??
How about the price wise?

In this sense, mind telling me - the disadvantage of having limited memory? I mean, i understand certain situation where the higher the memory, its going to allow me to play at higher resolution. But in this case, i am limited to my 22" and would that cause me significant disadvantage?

look at all the FPS games out there..
crysis, farcry, FEAR, etc

u need a lot of mem to load all those nice looking enviroment etc..

320mb sli more like RTS owning but in FPS games not worth it

thats y the 320mb gts lost to the GT so badly in FPS games because not enough mem...

and thats y however fast u overclock ure GT and compared to a overclock ultra/GTX with that 768mb mem will play a part..

correct me if am wrong
but nvidia cards
u only use the primary cards mem...



This post has been edited by cstkl1: Nov 9 2007, 02:27 PM

from my previous experience, the system will follow the settings of the slower card, irregardless of position.

Ah..Now i understand why. Thanks alot for the clarification there. I guess its still pointless to get it for SLi then..LOL....

but now sli GT can pawn single gtx (correct? no?)

can. even 88gts sli can pawn single gtx. but due to the memory limitation of the 88gts 320, the gts sli can outperform single gtx at native resolution of 22". anything greater than that, the gtx will perform better due to the availability of 768mb.

I'm very confused about getting the 8800gt.

I consider myself a power gamer and i can't stand low res textures etc. Trouble is i plan to upgrade my monitor to 1920x1200 in the near future. To further complicate issues I'm building a new pc very very soon, and i'm concerned that the 8800gt won't be sufficient to run at that resolution. Crysis benchmarks don't do anything to make my decision any easier.

And then there's the 112 SP G80 GTS 640mb which according to benchmarks is supposedly better than than the 512mb gt at higher resolutions but also comes at a larger price premium...

And then there's also the problem i face in that i run with a dual monitor setup. And will do so when i upgrade. So i guess my options are...

a) stick with current 8800gts 320mb
b) buy cheaper 8800gt 512mb and sell as soon as the GTX replacement comes out.
c) buy 112sp 8800gts 640mb, and maybe SLI the mofos? (problem being x38 mobos are crossfire)

Anyone got any suggestions as to options?

hmm problem

nobody knows what setup ure talking about...hints do no not help.
for every card use until it does not work to your expectations, then just change something that does...

Well I'm currently running an E6600, 2gig ram, 8800gts 320mb system and gaming at 1680x1050. Performance for most games this year considering it was an emergency pc i built because my previous pc got fried by lightning.

My bro wants to upgrade, and I'm selling him most of the parts in the pc at a discounted rate, which means I get the chance to draw up the specs for the new pc and therefore i need to get my specs drawn up for my new pc by the end of this month.

I want to game at 1920x1200 on the new pc but i'll probably stick with the current monitor for another few months. I'm getting an x38 board (probably the asus maximus for the future penryn compatibility), and the usual generic parts. I think the choice of processor and GC is probably the 2 hardest things to decide on at this point in time with the current state of technology, so i was hoping to see which decision makes the most financial sense or if anyone could offer any suggestions that i hadn't thought of.

The thing is, the GTS 320mb is still a good gaming card. It became lousy when 2 things happened - 8800GT and crysis.

Otherwise the GTS 320mb can still play current games (minus crysis) at acceptable frame rates and not too high a resolution.

If you look at the performance, it is GTS 320mb<GTS 640mb<GT<GTX<Ultra. However, due to the much cheaper price of the GT, the GT became the best price-for-performance card at the moment. Furthermore, an SLI 8800GT is more worth it as compared to a single GTX or ultra, with almost the same price point (if you don't mind the heat and noise).

As newer games and cards comes out, it would be difficult to recommend any options. For me, if you're not planning to buy-sell as newer products comes out, the safer way to go about it is to get the 8800GT as you can still SLI them in the future..... . Do note that current cards do not support DX10.1, although according to some sources, the DX10.1 has only minor improvements and current DX10 cards do support up to 90% of DX10.1 features (whatever that means.....)

This post has been edited by kmarc: Nov 9 2007, 05:57 PM

my opinion of the 640gts=the 8800gt

8800 gt looks good for FPS games
and the 8800gts looks better on RPS games which was pointed out by a forumer .. which i checked with benches was true.

Interesting. Is it because of the different core (G80 vs G92)? Maybe it is the drivers....

Anyway, there's only 2 advantages that I can think of for the 640mb GTS - that it channels hot air out the back (and would be good for a closed-case system) and the fan is not as loud if compared at the same speed. Other than that, the GT pwns the GTS 640mb.....

I understand more or less what you're trying to say. However, they've just released a revised gts640mb with 112 shader processors which is exactly the same as the 8800gt. The difference is with the clock speeds with the GT being faster and memory with the GTS having slightly more. Because i plan to get to get a 1920x1200 monitor a couple of months down the line, i thought that the GTS might be the better long term performer than the GT due to the higher resolutions etc.

If i was going to stay with my current native res than the GT would be the easy winner in this fight. But unfortunately, the larger screen is just too attractive.

Getting the GT now seems to make sense thought especially with the capability to SLI the cards later on. But I'm worried about getting current SLI boards due to compatibility problems with penryn when the chips come out in early 2008.

edit: perhaps i'm reading too much into the benchmarks in this review http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardw...ion-review.html


This post has been edited by Kidicarus: Nov 9 2007, 08:49 PM

Looking at your link, I understand what you're saying. However, I think the most important factor now (when comparing to the 8800GT) is the price of 8800 GTS 640mb SCC. How much would it be?

If I understand that review, including the pictures, the card has the same designed as it's older brother, including the G80 GPU with the exception of the 112SP. If that is the case, (unless the prices of the old 8800GTS comes down quite a bit) the price will definitely be higher than that. To me, the 8800GT has the best price-for-performance ratio. For the GTS/GTX/Ultra, we are paying more premium for their performance, if you know what I mean....

I agree.

Definitely the 8800gt has the price performance ratio king, but what's the point if there isnt enough power under the hood to drive the monitor you intend to get? Obviously I have some money to burn - unfortunately that money is limited

Gut instinct is telling me that now is a bad time to get a new pc with new tech coming very early next year. But then i feel sorry for my bro who's gaming with a craptastic athlon pc and geforce 5200. My current GTS320mb would make a great belated birthday present for him

No, what I'm stressing on is the price-performance ratio because if you have money and need power, everybody would then recommend the Ultra....

Haha, get him a new rig la PLUS the GTS 320mb...

Edit : How much is the GTS 640mb SCC? Cause the GTS 640mb is still selling for RM1300-1400 right?

This post has been edited by kmarc: Nov 9 2007, 09:51 PM

@Kidicaurus: I believe that buying the 8800GT is the ideal choice for u... Unless u wanna SLI, then u might need to get another board (x38 is ur problem)... The new improved GTS is based on the old G80 so, getting the GT is better... The GT's performance is amazing and it is a cheaper solution compared to GTX/Ultra...

I heard crossfire is quite powerful thesedays.... Of coz if talking about compatibility, it's still NVIDIA coz most games are designed for optimized performance for NVIDIA.... Actually, if u don't mind, can try crossfire.... If got money, I would wanna try crossfire HD2900XT...

Actually, the new gts 640mb is a much better card at higher resolutions than the 8800gt, at least from the benchmarks that i've seen. Might just get a gtx instead, at least i know what it can do @1920x1200.

I have no idea what the 112 sp 8800gts 640mbs cost at the moment so i guess i'll have to postpone the decision until i get a clearer indication of the price anyway.