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post Sep 6 2007, 10:57 AM, updated 19y ago

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Let's continue with the discussion.

Previous thread can be found here : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/456301


Currently available Geforce 8-series DX10 card in the market nowadays:-

8500GT 256MB DDR2 @ 128bit
8500GT 256MB DDR3 @ 128bit
8600GT 256MB DDR3 @ 128bit
8600GTS 256MB DDR3 @ 128bit
8800GT 256MB DDR3 @ 256bit
8800GT 512MB DDR3 @ 256bit
8800GT 1GB DDR3 @ 256bit
8800GTS 320MB DDR3 @ 320bit
8800GTS 640MB DDR3 @ 320bit
8800GTX 768MB DDR3 @ 384bit
8800 Ultra 768MB DDR3 @ 384bit

Drivers that aspect ratio scaling can work using WS LCD with 8X00 series GPU.

Windows XP - Forceware 96.89 - Download Link

Windows Vista - Forceware 101.41 - Download Link

Latest Forceware Drivers

Windows XP -ForceWare 168.18 WHQL 32bit - Download Link Updated 14/7/07

Windows Vista - Forceware 163.11 WHQL 32bit - Download Link Updated 14/7/07
Windows Vista - Forceware 163.11 WHQL 64bit - Download Link Updated 14/7/07

Utilities

RivaTuner v2.02 - Download Link Updated 14/7/07
ATi Tool 0.27 b2 - Download Link
nTune 5.05.47.00 - Download Link Updated 14/7/07
Coolbits 2.0 - Download Link

Benchmarks

Call of Juarez DirectX 10 - Download Link
NVIDIA Demo: Human Head - Download Link
Lost Planet - DirectX 10 Game Demo - Download Link
Futuremark 3DMark/PCMark Download Page - Download Link
Real-Time High Dynamic Range Image-Based Lighting - Download Link Added on 3/8/07 [Thanks to aidlover & mADmAN]

Patches

Vista Compatibility & Reliability Patch 32bit - Download Link Added on 3/8/07
Vista Compatibility & Reliability Patch 64 bit - Download Link Added on 3/8/07

Others

Microsoft DirectX 9 & 10 August 2007 - Download Link Added on 3/8/07 [Some new games would need this installed]
NVIDIA overscan compensation Fix - Download Link Added on 3/8/07
8800 Fan Speed guide - Webpage Link Added on 3/8/07 [Thanks toa aidlover& mADmAN]

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post Sep 6 2007, 01:35 PM

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lets start off with a news

G92 is said to be 8700GTS, 65nm, 256bit bus, 8 layer pcb and 512MB GDDR3 1ns ram

good spec to fill gap between 8600 series and 8800 series

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_G92...0_GTS/5236.html
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post Sep 6 2007, 01:37 PM

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hmm.gif, and the price of new 8700GTS should be lower than current 8800GTS and slightly over 8600GTS brows.gif tongue.gif
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post Sep 6 2007, 01:49 PM

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as from previous post in V2...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=13125769

the ar5211.sys crashed bsod solved by removing the wifi nic but the gpu still can't work in its factory oced speed (550/900), it still freeze up during atitool 'show 3d' and 'artifact scan'... lowering it too stock 8800gts speed (500/800), problem solved... while running atitool in 550/900 speed, it does show some bsod before it restarts, but it just to quick to even be notice... anyway i can know wat's the problem???

i want the card to work in it's factory oced speed... the core i can set till 600mhz trouble free, it juz the stooooopid vram...

should i juz send it back for RMA??? or maybe vmod (pencil) the vdimm can help solve my problem??? i can't find many factory pre oced 8800gts with 900mhz ram speed... funnily, i can run all 3dmark05 n 3dmark06 trouble free... but gaming is a no no... i'm trying to avoid the RMA route as much as possible, coz it might takes me weeks for it to come back...

btw, knows wher to get this cooler??? i wanna use it with my swiftech mcw60-r wc gpu block... it looks much nicer n maybe can secure to the card easier n stronger than my current heat sink... tq...

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post Sep 6 2007, 02:16 PM

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what card are u using again??? brand and edition (if any) pls.
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Sep 6 2007, 01:35 PM)
lets start off with a news

G92 is said to be 8700GTS, 65nm, 256bit bus, 8 layer pcb and 512MB GDDR3 1ns ram

good spec to fill gap between 8600 series and 8800 series

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_G92...0_GTS/5236.html
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That's bad news. Was hoping for a next gen card that is able to beat the 8800GTX/ultra...... sad.gif

QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Sep 6 2007, 02:04 PM)
as from previous post in V2...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=13125769

the ar5211.sys crashed bsod solved by removing the wifi nic but the gpu still can't work in its factory oced speed (550/900), it still freeze up during atitool 'show 3d' and 'artifact scan'... lowering it too stock 8800gts speed (500/800), problem solved... while running atitool in 550/900 speed, it does show some bsod before it restarts, but it just to quick to even be notice... anyway i can know wat's the problem???

i want the card to work in it's factory oced speed... the core i can set till 600mhz trouble free, it juz the stooooopid vram...

should i juz send it back for RMA??? or maybe vmod (pencil) the vdimm can help solve my problem??? i can't find many factory pre oced 8800gts with 900mhz ram speed... funnily, i can run all 3dmark05 n 3dmark06 trouble free... but gaming is a no no... i'm trying to avoid the RMA route as much as possible, coz it might takes me weeks for it to come back...
The fact of the matter is that the card can't run at it's predetermined OC speed. And as such, should be considered defective. Don't forget that there could be some other problems with the card which is not yet noticeable.....

Have you thought of flashing the BIOS? hmm.gif
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I am using a Dell Dimension 1520 laptop. Where can I get the latest Nvidia 8600M GT graphics drivers? I can't play the new Bioshock PC demo because it requires the latest 163.44 Forceware drivers. I searched high and low but can't find it anyway... why should this ever happen? It's an Nvidia product and hence, shouldn't there be support for it?



ps: has the price of ANY 8800 GTS dropped yet...??

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take note that the bioshock driver is a BETA driver and not WHQL.

go to nvidia.com

click on download driver...then click on beta driver.

also, try going to dell.com and search for ur drivers there.

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Behold the "Octopus Waterblock"

Hold On, wrong pictures. sweat.gif Please refer to post #20.

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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Sep 6 2007, 10:57 AM)

Latest Forceware Drivers

Windows XP -ForceWare 168.18 WHQL 32bit - Download Link Updated 14/7/07

Windows Vista - Forceware 163.11 WHQL 32bit - Download Link Updated 14/7/07
Windows Vista - Forceware 163.11 WHQL 64bit - Download Link Updated 14/7/07
Although its not WHQL, this is the 'latest' from Nvidia [Forceware 163.44] which is find to improve performance in Vista particularly when playing Halo 2 and Shadowrun.
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_bioshock_downloads.html
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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Sep 6 2007, 02:36 PM)
I am using a Dell Dimension 1520 laptop. Where can I get the latest Nvidia 8600M GT graphics drivers? I can't play the new Bioshock PC demo because it requires the latest 163.44 Forceware drivers. I searched high and low but can't find it anyway... why should this ever happen? It's an Nvidia product and hence, shouldn't there be support for it?
ps: has the price of ANY 8800 GTS dropped yet...??
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How about nvidia website?

No, the prices hasn't dropped yet.

Anyway, for those deciding on whether to get the 8800GTS 320mb or 640mb, here's another reason why the 640mb might be better : http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/biosho...mance/page7.asp

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In any case, today's latest graphics cards are more than capable of handling BioShock with a little AA. GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB users may want to turn down the graphics settings, and/or keep the resolution at 1600x1200 (or lower) to avoid the choppiness we encountered. Fortunately NVIDIA is aware of the problem and working on a solution that can hopefully be fixed with a newer driver. If you're cross-shopping the GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB and 640MB, you may want to spend the extra $80 or so and get the GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB. If you recall, we found the 320MB card didn't have enough memory to run World in Conflict well with AA either.
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Sep 6 2007, 02:43 PM)
Behold the "Octopus Waterblock"
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Extraordinary design...



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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Sep 6 2007, 02:44 PM)
Although its not WHQL, this is the 'latest' from Nvidia [Forceware 163.44] which is find to improve performance in Vista particularly when playing Halo 2 and Shadowrun.
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_bioshock_downloads.html
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Noted. I haven't update for quite some time.
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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Sep 6 2007, 02:43 PM)
Behold the "Octopus Waterblock"
Looks cool. However, my first thought was that the potential for leaking is much much higher!!! sweat.gif

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That's not for Geforce 8 GPU, I mislook on it. I try to find the one for Geforece 8 one first.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 6 2007, 02:44 PM)
How about nvidia website?

No, the prices hasn't dropped yet.

Anyway, for those deciding on whether to get the 8800GTS 320mb or 640mb, here's another reason why the 640mb might be better : http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/biosho...mance/page7.asp
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Yeah. Downloaded WHQL / Beta, none of the drivers work. It simply says 'hardware not supported' or not recognised. Googled around and found many users having the same issues. The documentation that comes with the Forceware drivers DO NOT put 8600M in their list. This is worrying.

Anyways, as for the 8800 GTS, I am planning of getting the 320Mb version due to my display resolution. Mine goes upto 1280x1024 only, and not 1600x1200. I know the GPU will go superbly with my 3.2GHz Pentium D dual-core and 2Gb memory with Vista ultimate. However the price is just staying... paying RM1k+ for a GPU is quite a pain... [I am using a 7800GTX, which cost me a lot last year]. I thought of getting 8600 GT or 8600 GTS, but it would be almost downgrading my computer.

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QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Sep 6 2007, 02:04 PM)
as from previous post in V2...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=13125769

the ar5211.sys crashed bsod solved by removing the wifi nic but the gpu still can't work in its factory oced speed (550/900), it still freeze up during atitool 'show 3d' and 'artifact scan'... lowering it too stock 8800gts speed (500/800), problem solved... while running atitool in 550/900 speed, it does show some bsod before it restarts, but it just to quick to even be notice... anyway i can know wat's the problem???

i want the card to work in it's factory oced speed... the core i can set till 600mhz trouble free, it juz the stooooopid vram...

should i juz send it back for RMA??? or maybe vmod (pencil) the vdimm can help solve my problem??? i can't find many factory pre oced 8800gts with 900mhz ram speed... funnily, i can run all 3dmark05 n 3dmark06 trouble free... but gaming is a no no... i'm trying to avoid the RMA route as much as possible, coz it might takes me weeks for it to come back...

btw, knows wher to get this cooler??? i wanna use it with my swiftech mcw60-r wc gpu block... it looks much nicer n maybe can secure to the card easier n stronger than my current heat sink... tq...

Zalman ZM-RHS88

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That is meant for use witht eh Zalman heatpipe cooler. Most likely comes as a set with teh cooler only.




QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Sep 6 2007, 02:44 PM)
Although its not WHQL, this is the 'latest' from Nvidia [Forceware 163.44] which is find to improve performance in Vista particularly when playing Halo 2 and Shadowrun.
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_bioshock_downloads.html
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U guys playing Bioshock, dont forget that after installing 163.44 drivers, u need to Hotfix ur Windows Vista too. There's 4 of them. U can get the Hotfixes on the same page as the 163.44 beta driver in nvidia site. 1 very important Hotfix is for SLi users as sumtimes the rig runs on only 1 card so u need the Hotfix to make sure both cards running.
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OK. Here's the real thing.

Ketchak Evo-88 GTS Bloque GPU Waterblock

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