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post May 7 2021, 02:14 PM, updated 3y ago

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Here's the full line-up.

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The U8G would be the one that is the most attractive. If the specs perform as advertise, it could blow Sony X90J and other makes similar to it, out of the water.

This is the full launch video, with a timestamp for the U8G.

With every single model is a FALD, Dolby Vision/Atmos model with HDMI 2.1, Hisense will dominate the market from big brands who made no effort to upgrade their offerings.

Here's hoping Hisense Malaysia brings all of the 2021 models here and price it similar to the US.

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post May 7 2021, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ May 7 2021, 02:14 PM)
Hisense will dominate the market from big brands who made no effort to upgrade their offerings.


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post May 11 2021, 11:49 PM

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Which are coming to Malaysia ? I don't see the line up promoted in Hisense Malaysia's website thou.
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post May 12 2021, 12:09 PM

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FOMO Youtube channel just reviewed the U8G and compared it against Samsung's QLED.


Edited to fix the YouTube embed. For others who don't know, like I didn't, just use the Youtube video ID; don't use the full Youtube URL.

Digital Trends and RTings have yet to review it.

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post May 12 2021, 12:16 PM

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Help u embed properly.... tongue.gif
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post May 12 2021, 02:43 PM

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Competition is always welcome, its good for consumer! biggrin.gif

But concurring the market its gonna take time and they need to build their reputation like better warranty and after sales!

What's their warranty like, and is their service center? any info?

BTW, X90H is full array with local dimming hence it should compete with H9G.
any idea whats the going price? writesimply

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post May 12 2021, 03:49 PM

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Hi all, is the 65U800QF similar to the H9G in the US?
I'm a bit confused with the different naming conventions @@
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post May 12 2021, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(eltaria @ May 12 2021, 03:49 PM)
Hi all, is the 65U800QF similar to the H9G in the US?
I'm a bit confused with the different naming conventions @@
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Nope , they don't even use the same screen .
We don't get the same TV these Chinese brands release in the US .



Isn't it funny someone posted a bunch of TV models & " review " from the US and you end up getting a completely different line up in Malaysia ?

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post May 12 2021, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Maknusia @ May 12 2021, 02:43 PM)
Competition is always welcome, its good for consumer!  biggrin.gif

But concurring the market its gonna take time and they need to build their reputation like better warranty and after sales!

Well if Hisense really want to conquer the SEA market, they really need to match their offering to the US. The current Malaysian line-up is not. They need to bring the new U range to SEA and compete. TCL Malaysia is not bringing comparable products here.

I think it'll be at least June before Hisense Malaysia announces their 2021 lineup. They're now doing their Raya promo so they can't undercut their older models yet.

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What's their warranty like, and is their service center? any info?
While their customer service in the US seems to be well regarded, locally I don't know. They do have a weird warranty on offer though. 2 years if you buy online. 3 years if you buy retail.

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BTW, X90H is full array with local dimming hence it should compete with H9G.
any idea whats the going price? writesimply
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Last I checked, the 65X90H was going at RM5,800 the cheapest. There is no H9G model for Malaysia. The 65" only U800QF series is similar to Hisense UK's 65" U8QF. The only difference is the stand. The U800QF is being sold now at RM4999-RM50065 with RM100 Netflix voucher.

The U800QF has 180 dimming zones compared to the X90H's 32. The Sony has a better video processing chip but it also doesn't do well with low bitrate Youtube/downloaded video in terms of gradation. From what I tested, the U800QF did better with low bit-rate videos.

** One thing I noticed is that X90H could not recognize Dolby Vision content playing through a USB drive using their native Media Player. The U800QF does.

I hope the U8G will be priced similar to the U800QF, seeing that U8G is a modest upgrade to the U800QF.

QUOTE(eltaria @ May 12 2021, 03:49 PM)
Hi all, is the 65U800QF similar to the H9G in the US?
I'm a bit confused with the different naming conventions @@
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I think it's similar to the U8QF in the UK, down to the JBL speakers and VIDAA os.

The U800QF from Hisense Malaysia.
The U8QF from Hisense UK.

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post May 13 2021, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ May 12 2021, 04:49 PM)
The U800QF has 180 dimming zones compared to the X90H's 32. The Sony has a better video processing chip but it also doesn't do well with low bitrate Youtube/downloaded video in terms of gradation. From what I tested, the U800QF did better with low bit-rate videos.



The U800QF from Hisense Malaysia.
The U8QF from Hisense UK.
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So what's your point ?

Better video processing but worse gradation than Hisense's 8 bit imitation ? ? Do you even know what you are talking about ?




Gradation is typically the strongest point on higher bit TV .

Even if you ignore that fact , You are comparing a 8bit + RFC TV (UQ8F) , a cheap 10 bit imitation with a native 10 bit TV (X90H) ?
That's like saying your car travel faster than NASA's rocket .

Please , do show us your " test results " . And none of those heavily sponsored "review " from certain MOFO channel .

I am sure everyone would like to see how do you literally bypass the law of physics and manage to make an 8 bit screen getting better gradation than native 10 bit in a commercial display industry .



If you want to promote your TV , that is fine . But when you are making outrageous comparison , at the very least remember the specs of your TV , or in this case - win a nobel prize first .

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QUOTE(Convael @ May 13 2021, 07:04 AM)
Please , do show us your " test results " . And none of those heavily sponsored "review " from certain MOFO channel .

I am sure everyone would like to see how do you literally bypass the law of physics and manage to make an 8 bit screen getting better gradation than native 10 bit in a commercial display industry .
If you want to promote your TV , that is fine . But when you are making outrageous comparison , at the very least remember the specs of your TV , or in this case - win a nobel prize first .
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FOMO channel is a waste of time. I actually get more confused and learnt absolutely nothing from his videos other than this TV better than that, or that TV better than this.

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post May 13 2021, 12:39 PM

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Mmm okay thanks, kinda hard to proceed like this, is there local TV review channels? Personally, I'm open to getting a TCL or HiSense, HiSense seems to be more easily available from local retailers, vs TCL C716.

I'll check out the U8QF reviews then.

Wonder why they spec/name it differently across different countries.

I recently come across the FOMO channel too, and he praised the H9G a lot. Which led me to the U800QF.

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post May 14 2021, 01:28 PM

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EDIT: changed TCL to Xiaomi Mi

QUOTE(eltaria @ May 13 2021, 12:39 PM)
is there local TV review channels?
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I don't know of any. Even local newspapers and online tech sites don't do a technical analysis simply because you need specialized equipment and the know-how to do so.

Since most people don't tend to pay for a calibration service for their TVs - as most people are not rich people - the simplest guide on buying TVs/anything is:

1) Does it fit your budget and space?
If you can't afford it, you can't buy it. If you can't fit it in, you can't buy it.

2) Does it have features that you want right now and in the next 24 months?
List all the must-haves that you want and compare.

3) Does it do its job well enough out of the box?
For TVs, it has to look good enough out of the box. With "settings" you can find on some websites and user forums that you can adjust with your remote, that's the max you can do without paying for calibration or buying something out of your range.

4) Does it have a good customer service?
This is important because you want support if something goes wrong. While the big brands do have good customer service, just remember they all started at Year 1 decades ago and earned their reputations through the years.


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I'll check out the U8QF reviews then.
Here's one YouTube review.



This one is by AVForums.
Remember that U800QF (Malaysian model) is last year's. If you can wait for TCL or Hisense's 2021 model, I suggest you wait. Xiomi (not TCL) will announce their Mi Q1 75" on May 20th. Hisense, I have no idea.

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Wonder why they spec/name it differently across different countries.

Before the 2000s, this wasn't really the case. The specs are the same but the model numbers are slightly different. Then came the subscription services like SiriusXM satellite radio, iHeartRadio, Netflix and Prime Video. Then Roku and Android.

I think with smart TVs, the why has to do with how popular the operating system is in that given country, how lucrative the deal is between OS maker and TV manufacturer, and how the sales department just understanding the market.

They are trying different things, I guess. For example, in the US and perhaps worldwide, Hisense will roll out their Dual Cell technology time this year. But they already tried it out in Australia last year and didn't get glowing reviews about its brightness.



Anyway, another American YouTuber just got his hands on the Hisense U8G. He confirmed that 120Hz gaming and VRR/FreeSync is working with an XBox Series X. No idea if Dolby Atmos, if the game supports it, would also work at the same time.


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post May 14 2021, 03:49 PM

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Okay, I can wait a couple more months, as targeted move in to new house date is still a couple months away.

But the FOMO channel is saying that for 4k tv, the new gen is actually worst than the previous gen. Have you watched that review, and what do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EHJsSTlozM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ May 14 2021, 01:28 PM)

Remember that U800QF (Malaysian model) is last year's. If you can wait for TCL or Hisense's 2021 model, I suggest you wait. TCL will announce their Q1 75" on May 20th. Hisense, I have no idea.
Wait for official 2021 announcment (Malaysia models).
So many assuming...... unsure.gif
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post May 14 2021, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(eltaria @ May 14 2021, 03:49 PM)
Okay, I can wait a couple more months, as targeted move in to new house date is still a couple months away.
Sounds like an ideal timeline. In the meanwhile, I'll update this thread with more reviews of the Hisense range as they come online.

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But the FOMO channel is saying that for 4k tv, the new gen is actually worst than the previous gen. Have you watched that review, and what do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

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Yeah, I've watched this video. For those who didn't, he basically is saying the big brands made incremental changes from 2020 models to 2021 models. He made this video before Hisense announced their 2021 line-up.

The argument is completely logical. We've seen this happened when LCD TVs started coming out with 480p and 720p, and then 720p and 1080p models. This explains why Hisense bet on making inroads with their FALDs and QLED 4K 2021 offerings not as a option but as a standard. Mi Malaysia is following suit, getting the Mi Q1 75" from India probably (where they have a manufacturing plant). TCL Malaysia is still disappointing in their product ranges, though to be fair they haven't announced their 2021 lineup.

It's good to see the budget brands giving people the features that they want with quality products.



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It's good to see the budget brands giving people the features that they want with quality products.
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post May 15 2021, 01:23 AM

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EDIT: added the FOMO link.


Digital Trends reviewed the U8G. Previously they did only the unboxing.



FOMO made a more detailed review about the color volume of the U8G and compared it to a calibrated Samsung QN90A. In this video, he's still not gotten the U8G calibrated.



I don't expect the UK or European websites to have the 2021 lineup until at least June as it seems Hisense UK has yet to be updated. Hisense Canada calls the U8G as the U88G.

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EDIT: Spelling.

Quantum TV Youtube channel added his thoughts on the U8G. Take this with a grain of salt. But he has been doing TV reviews for a while.



RTings is probably about to order their U8G.

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post May 16 2021, 05:55 PM

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Quantum TV checked the nits before and after calibration. Specular highlights for HDR content seems more than decent. Seems to corroborate Digital Trends' findings.


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post May 20 2021, 09:19 AM

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I am getting rather sick of many of these so called " influencer " , who are taking big cheques from brands only for positive reviews .

I don't have any problems with people promoting electronics , it is part of the cycle .
But these people should definitely stop reviewing TV . They simply don't know what , where or how to look .


At the same time , some people like OP who doesn't know enough but care enough to go thru half of these review and start joining the club .
This is worrying because it is jeopardizing the professionalism of the industry .


I put together some pictures to show people why a certain MOFO channel is terribly wrong .

A reminder , Pictures / Videos are never a good way to evaluate Picture Quality but in this case one of them is so off the track where you can instantly see the difference .


Let's talk numbers first .
These 2 TVs are in film-maker mode , which means they are in their most accurate preset .


» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Yellow is the reference , we can see that the QN90A is tracking the PQ EOTF chart fairly well .
While Samsung is not 100% adhering to the standard they have gotten a lot better over the years .

Hisense , on the other hand is completely OFF . They are excessively brightening PQ EOTF standard trying to make an impression.

I am sure many are wondering , isn't brighter better ?
Rtings said so , MOFO said so . Since they measured 1700 nits on both TV yet the U8G is cheaper , it must be better .


Of course that is not the case . The U8G paid dearly by not following the standard.

Accuracy plays an important role in determining Picture Quality .

Let's look at the price U8G paid to keep up with QN90A , beside the $$ they have sent to the influencer's pocket .

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Result of overly brighten pictures , Hisense is unable to control its local dimming system efficiently .
Hence you can see raised black floor , shadow details are washed out , contrast ratio also took a big hit .

At the same time , small highlights look less impressive because its surrounding " zones " have reduced dynamic range .
There is no way to fix this , not even via calibration .



There is more .
Let's look at the colors .

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «



Colors look more dynamic , more saturated and eye-popping on the QN90A .
Other the other hand , on the U8G , everything looks like Neon colors .
At the same time , colors look more washed out , some color textures are overlapped .

The difference is even more staggering in real life because of the limited dynamic range a Camera can capture .


In a nut shell , even if two TV have the same specs there are huge difference in how the brand is using their decades of experience to finetune pictures .

Unfortunately the same can't be said for the likes of H... , S.... , HW.. and X .....
Where they spend a majority of their budget into advertisement instead of R&D .

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QUOTE(Convael @ May 20 2021, 09:19 AM)
I am getting rather sick of many of these so called " influencer " , who are taking big cheques from brands only for positive reviews .

I don't have any problems with people promoting electronics , it is part of the cycle .
But these people should definitely stop reviewing TV .  They simply don't know what , where or how to look .
At the same time , some people like OP who doesn't know enough but care enough to go thru half of these review and start joining the club .
This is worrying because it is jeopardizing the professionalism of the industry . 
I put together some pictures to show people why a certain MOFO channel is terribly wrong .

A reminder , Pictures / Videos are never a good way to evaluate Picture Quality but in this case one of them is so off the track where you can instantly see the difference .
Let's talk numbers first .
These 2 TVs are in film-maker mode , which means they are in their most accurate preset .
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Yellow is the reference , we can see that the QN90A is tracking the PQ EOTF chart fairly well .
While Samsung is not 100% adhering to the standard they have gotten a lot better over the years .

Hisense , on the other hand is completely OFF . They are excessively brightening PQ EOTF standard trying to make an impression.

I am sure many are wondering , isn't brighter better ?
Rtings said so , MOFO said so . Since they measured 1700 nits on both TV yet the U8G is cheaper , it must be better .
Of course that is not the case . The U8G paid dearly by not following the standard.

Accuracy plays an important role in determining Picture Quality .

Let's look at the price U8G paid to keep up with QN90A , beside the $$ they have sent to the influencer's pocket .

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Result of overly brighten pictures , Hisense is unable to control its local dimming system efficiently .
Hence you can see raised black floor , shadow details are washed out , contrast ratio also took a big hit .

At the same time ,  small highlights look less impressive because its surrounding " zones " have reduced dynamic range  .
There is no way to fix this , not even via calibration .
There is more .
Let's look at the colors .

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Colors look more dynamic , more saturated and eye-popping on the QN90A  .
Other the other hand , on the U8G , everything looks like Neon colors .
At the same time , colors look more washed out , some color textures are overlapped .

The difference is even more staggering in real life because of the limited dynamic range a Camera can capture .
In a nut shell ,  even if two TV have the same specs there are huge difference in how the brand is using their decades of experience to finetune pictures .

Unfortunately the same can't be said for the likes of  H... , S.... , HW.. and X .....
Where they spend a majority of their budget into advertisement instead of R&D .
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Wow! This is a perfect tech write up about EOTF. You literally help me to digest this question that I always had it at the back of my mind.

The targeted brightness were offset so much on the Hisense U8G.

+1 for this post.

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post May 28 2021, 08:23 PM

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Found out today that Hisense is launching the U7G for Malaysia. Details are here. FALD, ULED (QLED?), Dolby Vision/Atmos, 55" and 65". No word on pricing yet. Hopefully between RM3,000 to RM4,500 for the 65".

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The specs on HDMI 2.0 is a bit suspect since all the other details is almost similar to Hisense USA's U7G info. Also the same line has contradictory details. EDIT: See this slide where it talks about HDMI 2.1. In the spec page, it mentions HDMI 2.0 and 1.4.

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EDIT: Since there are more slides talking about ALLM, VRR and FreeSync, I think the spec sheet about the HDMI ports is wrong. Also the slide about the wide viewing angle may mean it's an IPS panel.

The MY version has 90 dimming zones while the US version has 72. MY version doesn't come with Android, just VIDAA.

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Yes, saw the 'New' addition too, hope this means constant branding across the world from hisense now, U7G here kinda match U7G in US.
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post Jun 1 2021, 09:00 PM

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So that happened...

Apparently Hisense Malaysia was not ready to announce the U7G just yet. Because the link to the page is now gone. 404ed. But don't tell them that the link to the images are still good. whistling.gif

I think they're focused on their current promo, which would run for a month, while highlighting the new models A6500G And A6100G, and last year's U800QF. So maybe we won't see the ULED/QLED 2021 series being announced/sold until July or August.

I can wait.
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Things to consider:

1. So cheaper? Compare to Sony & Samsung LCD offerings.
2. Is it U7G hardware offering in MY same as in US? I am very doubtful. TCL and Hisense always gives outdated HW for Asean market.


Personally for me X90J is clear value for money choice for LCD considering Sony's PQ rating and Google TV os.
I bet this U7G price wont be so cheap, if just 1k difference I think better go for Sony.
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post Jun 3 2021, 02:13 PM

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So Hisense Malaysia officially announces the U7G through their Facebook post, with a YouTube link. The video says nothing much and is a copy from the European EUFA campaign.

It's interesting that they use sports as U7G's position in their lineup. One would think they would market it for gamers as well, considering the gaming features.


The revised product page is kinda interesting.

HDMI 2.1 slide is no longer there (though I have it hot-linked up in my post). The spec sheet still says 4 HDMI 2.0 ports.

Also gone is the mentioning of dimming zones. There is local dimming but they don't mention the zones. Perhaps because there are the 55" and 65" models, they don't want to put the number there. But not helpful. To be fair, the product page for the US version is similar. No mentioning of dimming zones. On Reddit, Hisense Canada says to be confirmed, the 55" has 70 dimming zones and the 65" and 75" has 90. Previously, Hisense Malaysia listed it as 90.

FreeSync is no longer mentioned. VRR and ALLM are still highlighted.

Wide viewing angle is also not mentioned, which is a good thing. It might hint at VA panel being used, just as wide viewing angle hints at IPS panel being used.

Still using VIDAA. There is a slide that says integration with Google and Amazon through the RemoteNOW app. So because of the two, I think the Google Play Store will be available in VIDAA.

And no word on price. Hisense Malaysia might be preparing the pricing structure with their marketing promotion along with the 2021 brochure. I don't think they're bringing the U9DG here so U8G might be their highest end product before their laser projector.
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i don't think MY U7G model will be similar to US spec except the OS (VIDAA vs Android).

US's U7G comes with quantum dot, but MY one is missing out this info in features and specsheet. Besides, accordig to Hisense MY naming convention, quantum dot model comes with "Q" (eg. U800QF).

Just my personal guess, i also hope i was wrong about this.

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post Jun 5 2021, 12:11 PM

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Hisense UK already launched U8G series (55/65U8GQTUK)
https://hisense.co.uk/tvs/all-tvs/u8g/

178 viewing angle meas IPS panel?
Peak brightness is down to 1000nits (US 1500nits)
4 x HDMI 2.1 ???
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QUOTE(pcteck19 @ Jun 5 2021, 12:11 PM)
Hisense UK already launched U8G series (55/65U8GQTUK)
https://hisense.co.uk/tvs/all-tvs/u8g/

178 viewing angle meas IPS panel?
Peak brightness is down to 1000nits (US 1500nits)
4 x HDMI 2.1 ???
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There's definitely a huge difference between the US/Canada version and the rest of the world. Probably due to the panel supplies. This is unfortunate. We'll see what Malaysia gets with the U7G and U8G. I can only hope that we get the 10-bit QD VA panel.

EDITED: Yeah, 2 x HDMI 2.1 ports with one eARC port, and 2 HDMI 2.0 ports. I think that's the standard for the 2021 ULED models.

What's weird is that Hisense UK announced the U8G while Hisense Malaysia announced U7G.

With regards to Quantum Dots and naming convention, Hisense seems to want to simplify it this year depending on how strong the Q branding is in which market. Who knows?

And with regards to U7G not having QD, I don't know. Maybe. The US version has it on their U7G line. The UK website has it on the U8G. The H9G (US), the U8QF (UK) and U800QF (Malaysia/SEA) have the same QD panels with different features (Android vs VIDAA) and base stands.
Maybe Hisense Malaysia is only not mentioning QD in the U7G so that it doesn't cannibalize the U800QF stocks that it still has.

Again I think after the current EUFA campaign is done and Hisense Malaysia releases the U7G and the U8G - maybe even the U6G, we can know about QDs, panels, bit depth, brightness and pricing. Once the they are in Harvey Norman stores - I only seem to see new Hisense models there - and the demo mode runs, we can know for sure.

Right now Hisense, TCL and Xiaomi have to establish themselves in the Malaysian market as a reputable, low-to-mid end manufacturer to survive. OEM manufacturers are already pushing their 4K TVs in the market. Xiaomi priced itself out with the Q1 75. TCL is sluggish to react to market changes.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 5 2021, 06:10 PM)

Yeah, 4 x HDMI 2.1 ports with one eARC port. I think that's the standard for the 2021 ULED models.
i thought MTK SoC solution up to 2 x HDMI 2.1 only? Even US U8G also 2 x HDMI 2.1 only.

if not mistaken, only Samsung and LG designed their on chip, the rest taking from Mediatek.

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i thought MTK SoC solution up to 2 x HDMI 2.1 only? Even US U8G also 2 x HDMI 2.1 only.

if not mistaken, only Samsung and LG designed their on chip, the rest taking from Mediatek.
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You're correct. 2 HDMI 2.1 and 2 HDMI 2.0.

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Hisense UK already launched U8G series (55/65U8GQTUK)
https://hisense.co.uk/tvs/all-tvs/u8g/

178 viewing angle meas IPS panel?
Peak brightness is down to 1000nits (US 1500nits)
4 x HDMI 2.1 ???
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Every type of screen mostly label themselves as 178/178 thesedays .

It doesn't necessarily indicates the type of screens they are .

It is just to say you can view their screen up to 178 degree off axis , which doesn't mean crap because they don't tell you how good it looks off-angles.


U8G is VA .

Sometimes the incompetent local dimming , which causes major blooming artifacts and shallow black will convince you otherwise particularly when comparing beside Sony and Samsung's .
It is a textbook example of how you got better hardware yet you score lower than the rivals because you lack the experience .


One more thing , don't read the specification because it listed the TV as having no wide color gamut .

U8G does has WCG , else why would it apply Quantum Dots layers in the TV .

It simply means even their website staff doesn't care enough to list the correct spec sheets for their own TV .

Maybe they should spend some money into actually hiring tech-savvy ppl , instead of paying silly YT channels to shower their TV with absurd compliment .

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Anyone could advice what's the different between Hisense A7400F (55 INCH) and 55E6F... Which one is better?
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QUOTE(StarLightMe @ Jun 6 2021, 04:00 PM)
Anyone could advice what's the different between Hisense A7400F (55 INCH) and 55E6F... Which one is better?
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Cannot find the webpage of the E6F range even on Hisense's site. Try to compare them on Hisense's store on Shopee/Lazada listing.

From my comparison, they look the same, except that the A7400F is a new range, it has Android OS and it has Dolby Vision. If you don't intend to buy a separate Netflix-certified Android box, go with the A7400F. Proprietary TV OSes are often slow in updating or adding apps, like Disney + Hotstar.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 6 2021, 05:50 PM)
Cannot find the webpage of the E6F range even on Hisense's site. Try to compare them on Hisense's store on Shopee/Lazada listing.

From my comparison, they look the same, except that the A7400F is a new range, it has Android OS and it has Dolby Vision. If you don't intend to buy a separate Netflix-certified Android box, go with the A7400F.  Proprietary TV OSes are often slow in updating or adding apps, like Disney + Hotstar.
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Yeah.... I can't find the E6F series from Hisense official website /catalog.... It is only in their lazada/ shopee Hisense official only.....
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Looking at the specs wise.... A7400F is better right?
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Found this, who are the Hisense Authorized Dealers ?
Me wanna pre-order....
Please advise.
Thanking you in advance.
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Found this, who are the Hisense Authorized Dealers ?
Me wanna pre-order....
Please advise.
Thanking you in advance.
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OK plan cancelled. Looks like it isn't the US's U7G model.
Not 120 Hz panel. Just 60hz panel with ULED and Local Dimming.
Not bad but kinda disappointed.

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/co...ison/982d1af785
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 6 2021, 01:44 PM)
Every type of screen mostly label themselves as 178/178 thesedays .

It doesn't necessarily indicates the type of screens they are .

It is just to say you can view their screen up to 178 degree off axis , which doesn't mean crap because they don't tell you how good it looks off-angles.
U8G is VA .
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Thanks for clarification, some vendor they do state they are using VA or IPS, but apparently Hisense doesn't.

QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 6 2021, 01:44 PM)
One more thing , don't read the specification because it listed the TV as having no wide color gamut .

U8G does has WCG , else why would it apply Quantum Dots layers in the TV .

It simply means even their website staff doesn't care enough to list the correct spec sheets for their own TV .

Maybe they should spend some money into actually hiring tech-savvy ppl , instead of paying silly YT channels to shower their TV with absurd compliment .
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Indeed, Hisense datesheet format are different across countries (US/UK/AU/MY), they didn't standardize the layout and infromation.
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QUOTE(kananthen @ Jun 7 2021, 01:35 AM)
OK plan cancelled. Looks like it isn't the US's U7G model.
Not 120 Hz panel. Just 60hz panel with ULED and Local Dimming.
Not bad but kinda disappointed.

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/co...ison/982d1af785
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How sure you are about the MY U7G is equivalent to A7G in the comparision?

https://hisense.co.uk/tvs/all-tvs/a7g/
The official website states A7G has no local dimming, 3 x HDMI 2.1; it's diffrent from the displayspecification.com info.

Really confusig, i dont think A7G has 3 x HDMI 2.1 hmm.gif

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How sure you are about the MY U7G is equivalent to A7G in the comparision?

https://hisense.co.uk/tvs/all-tvs/a7g/
The official website states A7G has no local dimming,  3 x HDMI 2.1; it's diffrent from the displayspecification.com info.

Really confusig, i dont think A7G has 3 x HDMI 2.1 hmm.gif
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This post is not directed to pcteck in any way. Just to join in his/her chat with kananthen.

I'm sure UK people who want to compare the US and UK versions are frustrated about this inconsistency. Me included. I tried to look for the UK's A7G manual. It led to the page for the A6G manual. doh.gif

Also, the US U7G page/spec sheet doesn't list eARC yet the manual says it does have eARC. So not everything is listed, like the dimming zones for the 65" U7G's spec sheet is 90, not 70 as listed on DisplaySpecifications.com. I think 70 zones is for the 55", and 90 for the 65" and 75" versions.

Malaysia's site doesn't have downloadable PDFs for anything. ranting.gif

I don't think the UK A7G is the same as the U7G USA/Malaysia. I don't know if the U7G USA is the same as the Malaysian version. Until they launch, all we can do is wait before comparing. So maybe the lesson here is to not trust the info on DisplaySpecifications.com until maybe six months after the products have launched.

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This is from Hisense Malaysia's Instagram. The reply about the U7G means they do have somebody managing their social media. But the pic has the U7 and U8 shown, and that's not the U800QF. The base stand on the U8 is different too.

QUOTE(kananthen @ Jun 7 2021, 01:06 AM)
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Found this, who are the Hisense Authorized Dealers ?
Me wanna pre-order....
Please advise.
Thanking you in advance.
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Where did you find that image? Jaya Jusco and Harvey Norman are authorized dealers that I know of. Check the interactive dealers list here.

U7G RM4600 with a RM200 TNG credit is a good deal for a 65" FALD. If you're iffy, obviously wait to see it in person at stores once the MCO is over in July.


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Nah , Hisense UK is just plain wrong.

And not because of the difference of model from different country , they are just wrong .



If you have Quantum Dots , you have WCG .
Yet they still list the WCG as absent in the spec sheets , among other oddities .


One thing that can be sure since all of Hisense 2021 tv is straying away from EOTF , which means their real life performance is going to be worse than entry level TV from big brands .

Clearly shown in the comparison thread I have made from previous page .


Now , I am just waiting for someone to tell me Hisense from different country will use different PQ EOTF standard biggrin.gif

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So Hisense Malaysia has just announced their 2021-22 lineup. No U8G. bangwall.gif Download the 2021-22 PDF brochure here.

Top of the line is the Laser TV 100L5F still. It looks like the same model as the last two years.

Next is the U900KF. I believe this is actually the 75" 8K model they intended to market in 2020. It was listed in last year's brochure.

Third in line is the U7G.

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After that is the A7G. Only in 75" and 85". QD. WCG. 3 x HDMI 2.0 (like the UK version). ALLM. VRR. Local dimming in the spec sheet, Ultra dimming in the slide; and no local dimming in the brochure. doh.gif

And after that, is the lower end SKUs.

The fact that the U8G is not coming is very disappointing.

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Whoever is doing the marketing there is either not competent at their job or is getting screwed by their boss. Both the website and the brochure are affected by this.

1) The product spec sheets are all over the place from year to year. The U900KF is labelled FALD in 2021's brochure while just having LD in 2020's brochure. The communication is inconsistent.

2) ULED is the second section in the 2020-2022 brochure. Yet in both years, there's only two products that have U in their name and the U900KF is listed in both years. 2 SKUs for both years doesn't make for a strong product feature.

3) The local dimming zone numbers are intentionally vague. The U800QF has a definite 180 zones. The U900KF has 100+; 110 would still be in the ±10 error margin. The U7G has zones but are not defined; it definitely has at least two. Vagueness doesn't build confidence.

4) The section on sound is irrelevant at best and misleading at worst. The best sound will never come from the TVs.

Finally, Hisense Malaysia missed the chance to capture the 4K bump this year with the lack of the U product range. Maybe in terms of importance, Hisense puts its money in the China market, North America and then the rest of the world.
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LoL none of these new 4K TV offerings have HDMI 2.1
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Cannot find the webpage of the E6F range even on Hisense's site. Try to compare them on Hisense's store on Shopee/Lazada listing.

From my comparison, they look the same, except that the A7400F is a new range, it has Android OS and it has Dolby Vision. If you don't intend to buy a separate Netflix-certified Android box, go with the A7400F.  Proprietary TV OSes are often slow in updating or adding apps, like Disney + Hotstar.
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Can I ask your opinion?

What is the difference between SMART 50E6F and Android 50A7400F and Samsung’s UA50TU8000? All 50”.

I am using a Firestick with Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime built in. Any TV with 3HDMI slots and an optical output is perfect for my needs. The Mi TV doesn’t have these. I don’t use Astro. My current TV is just dying a slow death. There are streaks across the screen and rough surfaces that smells of burnt plastic! Time to ditch?

I’m also limited in my budget.. Will probably buy thru Seng Heng after FMCO for warranty purposes.

Thank you!

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LoL none of these new 4K TV offerings have HDMI 2.1
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HDMI 2.1 is nice to have to have but for now, it actually has limited uses. Console gaming at 120Hz has less texture and environment enhancements (crowd or effects). You need a RM2000-3000 GPUs on PCs to have any real benefit. If you can afford that, you might as well look at OLEDs.

HDMI 2.0 can handle most of what people need right now. What's more important is the panel quality.
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Can I ask your opinion?

What is the difference between SMART 50E6F and Android 50A7400F and Samsung’s UA50TU8000? All 50”.
You quoted what I wrote about what I found out about the two Hisense models. unsure.gif I don't know about the Samsung either except that it looks like a basic model with Tizen OS.

All three look like they are basic models. The only way to choose which one is to view them in person and judge them on their PQ and motion handling, sound quality and menu navigation. That's hard right now with the MCO.

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I am using a Firestick with Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime built in. Any TV with 3HDMI slots and an optical output is perfect for my needs.
That's a sensible requirement.

Although it doesn't mean much, I would choose the A7400F line if only for the Dolby Vision. Why it doesn't mean much? Because the TV doesn't have local dimming and doesn't have enough brightness level. It'll do a tone-map for DV content and do what it can to make it look as best as it can.

Why it means something? If you are a subscriber to all three streaming services, you might appreciate having a TV with DV just a little bit more than if they don't. All three have 4K Dolby Vision content.

However, there are other TV brands out there that are not FALD yet have DV. And they're cheaper. Look at the Philips 58" 58PUT6604. No Android but with DV and 3 HDMI inputs.

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The Mi TV doesn’t have these. I don’t use Astro. My current TV is just dying a slow death. There are streaks across the screen and rough surfaces that smells of burnt plastic! Time to ditch?
I know of vinegar syndrome for LCDs but not burnt plastic. Upgrade when you can with your budget priorities.

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I’m also limited in my budget.. Will probably buy thru Seng Heng after FMCO for warranty purposes.
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Seng Heng and other stores have their official stores on Shopee and Lazada, apart from their own website. As long as the product is supported by a local distributor and dealers, your Malaysian warranty is good.

Find a store that allows you to pay in installments if you need it. Stick to your budget and pay in installments. That way you have a cash cushion just in case.

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You quoted what I wrote about what I found out about the two Hisense models. unsure.gif I don't know about the Samsung either except that it looks like a basic model with Tizen OS.

All three look like they are basic models. The only way to choose which one is to view them in person and judge them on their PQ and motion handling, sound quality and menu navigation. That's hard right now with the MCO.


This is the Samsung

https://www.samsung.com/my/tvs/uhd-4k-tv/tu...ua50tu7000kxxm/

I’m drawn to this only for the AirPlay 2 mirroring. Of course that’s not an absolute requirement as I can always stream connecting my iPad to the HDMI. I did this initially cos there wasn’t an Apple TV option on the Firestick. Now there is, but then again, I’ve got apps on my iPad not available on Firestick eg HBO Max, STARZ, Hulu.


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Although it doesn't mean much, I would choose the A7400F line if only for the Dolby Vision. Why it doesn't mean much? Because the TV doesn't have local dimming and doesn't have enough brightness level. It'll do a tone-map for DV content and do what it can to make it look as best as it can.

Why it means something? If you are a subscriber to all three streaming services, you might appreciate having a TV with DV just a little bit more than if they don't. All three have 4K Dolby Vision content.

However, there are other TV brands out there that are not FALD yet have DV. And they're cheaper.  Look at the Philips 58" 58PUT6604. No Android but with DV and 3 HDMI inputs.


Thank you for recommending the Philips. I’ll have a look at it when MCO is over.
I don’t, however, understand what FALD is?
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Seng Heng and other stores have their official stores on Shopee and Lazada, apart from their own website. As long as the product is supported by a local distributor and dealers, your Malaysian warranty is good.

Find a store that allows you to pay in installments if you need it. Stick to your budget and pay in installments.
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When one electronic item goes, so do others.. need to invest in a laptop to replace my dying 8 year old Acer. Thinking of an all in one. Don’t need to carry the laptop anywhere nowadays. Can do all on my iPad.

Now, after all this, I’d like to invest in a relatively affordable 4K Blu-ray player. What gets me is that the SONY 4K UHD players are so much cheaper in the US than Malaysia..and the players are MADE IN MALAYSIA! I already have a multi region 1080p Bluray player. Just not 4K and no upscaling either. Bought from US. US$99 vs RM1000 here! Yes. Made in Malaysia. sad.gif

Thank you so much for explaining this all to me.

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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jun 9 2021, 04:09 PM)
Yeah I read that page when I wrote my reply. Nothing there but the AirPlay 2 that's worth noting. If that's important to you, then well..

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I’m drawn to this only for the AirPlay 2 mirroring. Of course that’s not an absolute requirement as I can always stream connecting my iPad to the HDMI. I did this initially cos there wasn’t an Apple TV option on the Firestick. Now there is, but then again, I’ve got apps on my iPad not available on Firestick eg HBO Max, STARZ, Hulu.
I think HBO Max, Starz and Hulu are available for the Firestick. If not, you can also sideload it.

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Thank you for recommending the Philips. I’ll have a look at it when MCO is over.
The exact model may not be in stores. But if a store has that model or higher, you can judge the brand based on what you can see.

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I don’t, however, understand what FALD is?
FALD stands for Full Array Local Dimming. Basically an LCD TV is comprised of the LCD screen and the light source behind it. A decade ago LCD TVs used to have the light source as CCFL (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamp) but nowadays they are LEDs.

Imagine an image split into two where there is grey on the left side and black on the right side. LCDs can't really do blacks because the LED backlight has to be on for the grey section of the screen. But when you can split the LED into clusters/arrays that you can turn on and off, the LCD TV screen can "display" blacks better.

FALD refers to the full array of LED clusters across the screen. Each LED cluster is directly behind the LCD.

The more clusters of LEDs, the better the black details the TV can reproduce.

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When one electronic item goes, so do others.. need to invest in a laptop to replace my dying 8 year old Acer. Thinking of an all in one. Don’t need to carry the laptop anywhere nowadays. Can do all on my iPad.
Get an all-in-one that you can upgrade yourself. Don't be locked into something you can't upgrade one year after purchase. You can get a PC and connect it to your TV.

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Now, after all this, I’d like to invest in a relatively affordable 4K Blu-ray player. What gets me is that the SONY 4K UHD players are so much cheaper in the US than Malaysia..and the players are MADE IN MALAYSIA! I already have a multi region 1080p Bluray player. Just not 4K and no upscaling either. Bought from US. US$99 vs RM1000 here! Yes. Made in Malaysia.  sad.gif
I don't know for sure but a certain Panasonic 4K model is the preferred player to videophiles out there due to its versatility. But you can't seem to find them here.

If you need to buy them, try sourcing from Thailand or HK first since both the DVD and the BD regions are the same as Malaysia. If you can't, then the US but just remember you need a step-down transformer to use it. I see that some Panasonic and Sony models can be bought between $200-250. Hopefully Amazon can ship it to you.

You could also get a PS5. biggrin.gif Good luck finding one! From what I've seen, the PS5 doesn't support Dolby Vision. Yet. It's just a matter of paying Dolby the royalties.

If you're serious about collecting 4K BDs, then you might wanna upgrade to a FALD Dolby Vision TV in the near future.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 9 2021, 08:15 PM)
FALD stands for Full Array Local Dimming. Basically an LCD TV is comprised of the LCD screen and the light source behind it. A decade ago LCD TVs used to have the light source as CCFL (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamp) but nowadays they are LEDs.

Imagine an image split into two where there is grey on the left side and black on the right side. LCDs can't really do blacks because the LED backlight has to be on for the grey section of the screen. But when you can split the LED into clusters/arrays that you can turn on and off, the LCD TV screen can "display" blacks better.

FALD refers to the full array of LED clusters across the screen. Each LED cluster is directly behind the LCD.

The more clusters of LEDs, the better the black details the TV can reproduce.

If you're serious about collecting 4K BDs, then you might wanna upgrade to a FALD Dolby Vision TV in the near future.

No problem. Don't stress out on the current TV.
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Do FALD DV TVs exist now?

Okay. I’ll scratch the Samsung out. So now it’s between the Philips and the Hisense..

Both have Dolby Vision but not FALDs? I’ll see if it’s within my budget to get that , and maybe scratch the 4K Blu Ray player for the time being.

Thanks again.

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Do FALD DV TVs exist now?

Okay. I’ll scratch the Samsung out. So now it’s between the Philips and the Hisense..

Both have Dolby Vision but not FALDs? I’ll see if it’s within my budget to get that , and maybe scratch the 4K Blu Ray player for the time being.

Thanks again.
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Hisense U800QF has FALD, 180 zones
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What he said. It's probably one of - if not the cheapest at RM4700 - FALD TV in the market right now. PQ is very impressive, with the QD display at supposedly 1000 nits brightness. You will need to get a new Android box that supports Dolby Vision, like the new Firestick 4K, to get Disney+ Hotstar, Amazon Prime and Netflix in 4K DV.

In other news, the A7G is gone from Hisense Malaysia's website. So I think I'll focus on if or when the U series comes to Malaysia. Otherwise there are too many "website launches" that are then revised or pulled.

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I just checked with Hisense Malaysia and U7G has been launched last week and price from around RM4k - RM5, which is surprisingly expensive. RM1k more expensive if compared to the same price point in US.

However I'm waiting for U8G to pair with PS5 (If I can get both in 2021...)

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QUOTE(writesimply @ May 12 2021, 12:09 PM)
FOMO Youtube channel just reviewed the U8G and compared it against Samsung's QLED.


Edited to fix the YouTube embed. For others who don't know, like I didn't, just use the Youtube video ID; don't use the full Youtube URL.

Digital Trends and RTings have yet to review it.
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Recently I read that FOMO has recently been slapped extremely heavily by QuantumTV lol saying FOMO is not TV expert and always make false claims and giving wrong info by praising Sony's and Samsung's.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 10 2021, 03:38 PM)
What he said. It's probably one of - if not the cheapest at RM4700 - FALD TV in the market right now. PQ is very impressive, with the QD display at supposedly 1000 nits brightness. You will need to get a new Android box that supports Dolby Vision, like the new Firestick 4K, to get Disney+ Hotstar, Amazon Prime and Netflix in 4K DV.

In other news, the A7G is gone from Hisense Malaysia's website. So I think I'll focus on if or when the U series comes to Malaysia. Otherwise there are too many "website launches" that are then revised or pulled.
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Ok. RM4K is way over my budget. Should I just stick with Philips with their DV then? Or the Hisense 4K Android. I don’t need FALD. I do have the Firestick 4K. That’s why am looking to upgrade TV, other than the burnt plastic screen issue!


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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jun 11 2021, 12:37 AM)
Ok. RM4K is way over my budget. Should I just stick with Philips with their DV then? Or the Hisense 4K Android. I don’t need FALD.  I do have the Firestick 4K. That’s why am looking to upgrade TV, other than the burnt plastic screen issue!
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You do you. FALD hasn't been this cheap. No feature that really makes a difference is. But that's the nature of any top-end product lineup.

Between the Philips 58PUT6604 and the Hisense 55A7400F, there is a price difference of around RM200. Though it is 3" smaller than the Philips, I think the Hisense is the way to go. It has Android, which means you can easily add the US apps of HBO Max, Hulu, Starz and Disney+ and use a VPN app on it. Your Firestick can be used when you travel.

Just note that the A7400F apparently has a VIDAA version of the same name. So don't buy the wrong version.

QUOTE(alexlim_88 @ Jun 10 2021, 11:14 PM)
Recently I read that FOMO has recently been slapped extremely heavily by QuantumTV lol saying FOMO is not TV expert and always make false claims and giving wrong info by praising Sony's and Samsung's.
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In as much as Quantum TV contributes to the YouTube/online discussion about TV techs, the fact that he actively insults and bullies the other TV reviewers doesn't sit well with me. He reported Joelster, who said he was a clown, for using a STILL picture of him in his Deadpool costume. He may be honest but he is not humble.

So far, the U series hasn't arrived in Europe yet. Or maybe the EU reviewers are still in lockdown. I watched one guy from Spain do a U7G unboxing but no review yet. So the U series is still relatively new.

Here is the comparison between the U8G, U8G Australia and U8GQ Europe on DisplaySpecifications.com. As you can see, they don't know that SEA is getting something a little different. More on that in a bit...

QUOTE(alexlim_88 @ Jun 10 2021, 11:12 PM)
I just checked with Hisense Malaysia and U7G has been launched last week and price from around RM4k - RM5, which is surprisingly expensive. RM1k more expensive if compared to the same price point in US.
Where did you see this? I still haven't seen them listed on Shopee or Lazada.

It is unfortunately more expensive. And considering they are using VIDAA which they don't have to pay license fee for, I don't know why they are more expensive than the Android version.

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However I'm waiting for U8G to pair with PS5 (If I can get both in 2021...)
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So do I. At least once we know if and when the U8G will be announced, and its price, the market can make a decision. I still think they just want to clear their U800QF stock.

Anyway, this is what I found yesterday.

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This is the 2021 lineup from Hisense Thailand. Still VIDAA. Prices have yet to be announced. Come on Hisense Malaysia! That's the products we want. That's the spec details that we want to be laid out on the website.

I do admit that Malaysia's product offering is better than Hisense Indonesia. Singapore is apparently too posh to buy Hisense. There is no Hisense Singapore.
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This is the 2021 lineup from Hisense Thailand. Still VIDAA. Prices have yet to be announced. Come on Hisense Malaysia! That's the products we want. That's the spec details that we want to be laid out on the website.

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Where did you see this? I still haven't seen them listed on Shopee or Lazada.


I swear I saw it on SengHeng site 2 days ago and now seems they have removed it. Btw here got mentioned the price of U7G:

https://www.lowyat.net/2021/241414/hisense-...official-price/

I think U8G won't be launched in Malaysia because the price might go from RM6.5k to RM8k, that's the price of OLED TVs.


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Looks like TH-U8G is an upgraded version of U800QF: HDMI 2.1 with native 120hz panel, the rest are more or less the same
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Plus Dolby Atmos and Imax Enhanced support, as well as voice control. Apparently it's VIDAA Voice.

QUOTE(alexlim_88 @ Jun 11 2021, 05:29 PM)
I swear I saw it on SengHeng site 2 days ago and now seems they have removed it. Btw here got mentioned the price of U7G:

Hisense Malaysia Launches Its First ULED 8K Android TV; Priced at RM 24,999
Interesting. The price for the 8K TV is way over the price of their laser projector set, which comes with an ALR screen.

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If that's their pricing structure, Hisense Malaysia has put themselves in the same league as LG, Panasonic, Samsung and Sony but with nothing to back it up.

Their brand is about value for money. Pricing the U series like that is overestimating their perceived value, especially when neither of the Malaysian versions of the U7G and the U8G have the same specs as the US versions. Even the U900KF is more than the Australian version at RM22,300.

They are missing the chance in capturing the market share, the mind share and establishing themselves here. Seems like everybody in the management teams of Hisense, TCL and Mi felt overconfident in 2021. Or is it because the same big companies that distributes all of our TVs are owned by the same small group of people (therefore avoiding market cannibalization)?

Here's the pricing structure for the U series that Hisense Malaysia should have made that would benefit them and consumers.
U8G 65" - MSRP US is $1300. Malaysia's price should be RM5,500-6,000.
U7G 65" - MSRP US is $1000. About RM4,200-4,500.
U6G 65" - MSRP US is $750. About RM3,200-3,500.
Keep the specs the same AND make it Android, not VIDAA. We're already paying more. At these prices and with all the features, they would run out quickly every month.

I'm not holding my breath on that.
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Plus Dolby Atmos and Imax Enhanced support, as well as voice control. Apparently it's VIDAA Voice.

Interesting. The price for the 8K TV is way over the price of their laser projector set, which comes with an ALR screen.

If that's their pricing structure, Hisense Malaysia has put themselves in the same league as LG, Panasonic, Samsung and Sony but with nothing to back it up.

Their brand is about value for money. Pricing the U series like that is overestimating their perceived value, especially when neither of the Malaysian versions of the U7G and the U8G have the same specs as the US versions. Even the U900KF is more than the Australian version at RM22,300.

They are missing the chance in capturing the market share, the mind share and establishing themselves here. Seems like everybody in the management teams of Hisense, TCL and Mi felt overconfident in 2021. Or is it because the same big companies that distributes all of our TVs are owned by the same small group of people (therefore avoiding market cannibalization)?

Here's the pricing structure for the U series that Hisense Malaysia should have made that would benefit them and consumers.
U8G 65" - MSRP US is $1300. Malaysia's price should be RM5,500-6,000.
U7G 65" - MSRP US is $1000. About RM4,200-4,500.
U6G 65" - MSRP US is $750. About RM3,200-3,500.
Keep the specs the same AND make it Android, not VIDAA. We're already paying more. At these prices and with all the features, they would run out quickly every month.

I'm not holding my breath on that.
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Messaged Hisense Malaysia via FB confirmed that U7G in Malaysia is a totally different model from the one offered in US. Only 60Hz panel with HDMI 2.0, not the one we hoped for.

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QUOTE(Jellyjian @ Jun 14 2021, 11:56 AM)
Messaged Hisense Malaysia via FB confirmed that U7G in Malaysia is a totally different model from the one offered in US. Only 60Hz panel with HDMI 2.0, not the one we hoped for.
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What you expected ?
Is clearly noted when this thread started.
Even Android model is degradeted from A7400F to A6500G.

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What you expected ?
Is clearly noted when this thread started.
Clearly?

So you have communicated with Hisense Malaysia/HQ and asked them about the actual specs of the U7G for Malaysia? And gotten responses from them? And kept it a secret?

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I don't know why Hisense Malaysia's marketing is really bad at marketing. But as of today, the Android version of the A6500G is the same as the A7400F, based on their website. Android 9.0 Pie. Click on the Specs tab.

QUOTE(Jellyjian @ Jun 14 2021, 11:56 AM)
Messaged Hisense Malaysia via FB confirmed that U7G in Malaysia is a totally different model from the one offered in US. Only 60Hz panel with HDMI 2.0, not the one we hoped for.
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You can infer from Hisense Thailand about the U7G versions. Here's their U7G version. While it does confirm a 60Hz panel and 700 nits brightness, they get HDMI 2.1.

As it is right now, it's better to wait until July when the U7G arrives in stores. Hisense Malaysia's marketing department is a mess. I don't know if Hisense Thailand is any better but at least they have the updated version of the U800QF.

While we won't get the US version of the U8G, RTings.com has given it a solid 8.4 in its review.
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While it does confirm a 60Hz panel and 700 nits brightness, they get HDMI 2.1.

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What is the purpose of HDMI 2.1 for TV running on 60hz ?

The whole idea of HDMI 2.1 is to support 4K 120 fps content with additional features .

But VRR , ALLM , QMS or even eARC are not exclusive to HDMI 2.1 , they have exist on Samsung and Panasonic TV since HDMI 2.0 .


If they refuse to implement it within the current HDMI 2.0 , it means they don't want to do it . It has nothing to do with regional spec , even if it has HDMI 2.1 it is still a complete waste of resource .



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While we won't get the US version of the U8G, RTings.com has given it a solid 8.4 in its review.


Because they are a review website which gives priority to price tag . Which is exactly what Hisense is about , Cheap price , Cheap Picture Quality .

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 15 2021, 07:55 AM)
What is the purpose of HDMI 2.1 for TV running on 60hz ?

The whole idea of HDMI 2.1 is to support 4K 120 fps content with additional features .

But VRR , ALLM , QMS or even eARC are not exclusive to HDMI 2.1  , they have exist on Samsung and Panasonic  TV since HDMI 2.0 .
If they refuse to implement it within the current HDMI 2.0 , it means they don't want to do it . It has nothing to do with regional spec , even if it has HDMI 2.1 it is still a complete waste of resource .
Because they are a review website which gives priority to price tag . Which is exactly what Hisense is about , Cheap price , Cheap Picture Quality .
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Hi Convael,

What would you suggest for RM5k budget for a 65 inch TV now?

Its kind of hard to ignore the specifications Hisense offer for the price point. But I understand from your previous posts, high specifications doesn't necessarily means better picture quality.

It's a shame that TCL don't bring their better models here...

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Hi Convael,

What would you suggest for RM5k budget for a 65 inch TV now?

Its kind of hard to ignore the specifications Hisense offer for the price point. But I understand from your previous posts, high specifications doesn't necessarily means better picture quality.

It's a shame that TCL don't bring their better models here...
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If you have 5k+- to spare , Sony's 65" X90H is still the best bang for your bucks .


Or if you can wait , the newly released 2021 model - X90J will eventually drop to the below 6k .


There are going to be more affordable , 60 HZ OLED TV coming out in the next couple of months as well .
Depend on the pricing , that may also end up to be another spectacular purchase for your wallet .

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If you have 5k+-  to spare , Sony's 65" X90H is still the best bang for your bucks .
Or if you can wait , the newly released 2021 model - X90J will eventually drop to the below 6k .
There are going to be more affordable , 60 HZ OLED TV coming out in the next couple of months as well .
Depend on the pricing , that may also end up to be another spectacular purchase for your wallet .
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Need your advise on this also.. between the newly released panasonic 65JX800 and the sony 65 X90J, which one will be a better choice? Tq
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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 15 2021, 10:03 PM)
If you have 5k+-  to spare , Sony's 65" X90H is still the best bang for your bucks .
Or if you can wait , the newly released 2021 model - X90J will eventually drop to the below 6k .
There are going to be more affordable , 60 HZ OLED TV coming out in the next couple of months as well .
Depend on the pricing , that may also end up to be another spectacular purchase for your wallet .
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I see.. will wait for them to be on sales then.

Those 60Hz OLED TVs are from which brand? Will look up on it if it's launched.

Thank you for your advice.
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QUOTE(Jellyjian @ Jun 15 2021, 11:21 PM)
I see.. will wait for them to be on sales then.

Those 60Hz OLED TVs are from which brand? Will look up on it if it's launched.

Thank you for your advice.
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Should be LG A1 series.
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Hi,
Need your advise on this also.. between the newly released panasonic 65JX800 and the sony 65 X90J, which one will be a better choice? Tq
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X90J is better , simply because 120 hz > 60 hz . Assuming they are in the same price bracket , of course .

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 17 2021, 12:57 PM)
X90J is better , simply because 120 hz > 60 hz . Assuming they are in the same price bracket , of course .
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Boss, need some advise, is it wrth to get Sony A8H or just wait for A80J price reduce? MYR8000 plus for A8H really cannot tahan.
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Boss, need some advise, is it wrth to get Sony A8H or just wait for A80J price reduce?  MYR8000 plus for A8H really cannot tahan.
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If you are going to play the wait game again , you are going to be waiting for a very long time because A80J is fairly new .


At this point , it will come down to if you are planning to play 4k - 120 fps games on your TV .
Or planning to connect it to your PC via 4:4:4 Chroma signals .
Most people don't and most console games with 120 fps options downgrade the resolution down to 1080p .


If you don't , just buy the A8H it is still a great TV .


P/S : looks like we are off topic but if you need to ask me something feel free to tag me over Sony's Post .

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Okay, found this about the U7G. It's on their news and promo page.

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I suggest wait until it arrives in stores once the MCO is over (in September?) and then compare it with the U800QF. It's not that you can pre-order now anyways. I haven't seen the item on Shopee, SenQ or Harvey Norman.

Meanwhile Hisense Thailand's UEFA 2021 promo is definitely highlighting the U8G. This video is in English.

It's about the U7G at the beginning and a fridge in the middle. It might seem that the U8G is going to come in Q3/4 2021 in Thailand.

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 18 2021, 01:49 PM)
If you are going to play the wait game again , you are going to be waiting for a very long time because A80J is fairly new .
At this point , it will come down to if you are planning to play 120 fps games on your TV .
Or planning to connect it to your PC via 4:4:4 Chroma signals .
Most people don't and most console games with 120 fps options downgrade the resolution down to 1080p  [ but still running within the 4k output so HDMI 2.1 is still required ].
If you don't , just buy the A8H it is still a great TV .
P/S : looks like we are off topic but if you need to ask me something feel free to tag me over Sony's Post .
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I don't really play game nowadays. Purely for watching movies, thanks for the input.
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Anyone has any idea the 2021 U8G will it come to our country?


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Anyone has any idea the 2021 U8G will it come to our country?
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Nobody but Hisense Malaysia has any idea. And they're not going to tell because a) they need to push the U800QF stock out of the warehouse and b) they need to push the U900KF as their high-end model, and not the U8G. The U8G is the high-end model in Thailand and Hisense Thailand isn't selling the U900KF.

In other news, RTings.com has finally released their review of the North American U8G on Youtube. It'll probably be until Q4 before we see Hisense EU/Australia/Thailand releases the U8G international version.

Watch it only if you want to be depressed why this version is not going to be available for us ever.
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Vincent Teo reviewed the UK version of the U8G. The title tells you what he thinks.



The U8G and U8GQ are completely different TVs. It's unlikely that the UK/European Youtubers will review the U7GQ because they have the U8GQ.

The safe bet is to look at the manufacturing details. The North America U series are manufactured in Mexico. The one Vincent reviewed was manufactured in China. Hisense has a TV manufacturing plant in Czech Republic but that seems to be a small one.

Have to wait until the MCO is over before we can go to the stores and look at TVs again. But if you're desperate, the best Hisense TV for now seems to be the U800QF.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 10 2021, 03:38 PM)
What he said. It's probably one of - if not the cheapest at RM4700 - FALD TV in the market right now. PQ is very impressive, with the QD display at supposedly 1000 nits brightness. You will need to get a new Android box that supports Dolby Vision, like the new Firestick 4K, to get Disney+ Hotstar, Amazon Prime and Netflix in 4K DV.

In other news, the A7G is gone from Hisense Malaysia's website. So I think I'll focus on if or when the U series comes to Malaysia. Otherwise there are too many "website launches" that are then revised or pulled.
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Me again!

Still couldn’t get to a store for obvious reasons...

You did ask me to consider the Philips. Found one that’s an Android, 5-55”, has 3 HDMI plus and has Dolby Vision. I’ve been following this thread and it seems that Hisense product prices are marginally lower than established name brands

What do you think?

https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/55PUT8215_68...-led-android-tv
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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jun 28 2021, 01:58 PM)
Me again!

Still couldn’t get to a store for obvious reasons...

You did ask me to consider the Philips. Found one that’s an Android, 5-55”, has 3 HDMI plus and has Dolby Vision. I’ve been following this thread and it seems that Hisense product prices are marginally lower than established name brands

What do you think?

https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/55PUT8215_68...-led-android-tv
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Just note that Micro Dimming is not the same as Full Array Local Dimming.

If that fits your budget, it's the size you want and it has the features that you want, then that's the right one. But I would wait until you can get to the store and see one in person. Unless you really can't wait.



On separate news, Hisense Malaysia has created a form on Google Docs for people to pre-order the U7G.

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Here is the link.
RM4,600 for the 65" with a RM200 TnG reload. RM3,400 for the 55" with a RM100 TnG reload. TnG on first-come, first-served basiss. Pre-order period is July 1 to 15. TV is coming after that, I guess.



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If this bit of news is not confusing...

A Thai YouTube channel has had a review sample of the Thai U8G. The review is in Thai.


The takeaway of the video is : everything on Hisense Thailand's website about the U8G is true.
- 120 Hz VA panel (probably 8-bit + FRC)
- Precision Colour, Wide Colour Gamut via Quantum Dot
- 180 dimming zones for 65"
- Measured peak brightness at 1,132 nits and 92.59% DCI-P3 color space
- HDR 10+ and Dolby Vision
- JBL speakers
- 4 HDMI 2.1 ports at 60 Hz
- Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos
- DTS Studio Sound ™
- VIDAA with voice activation (yet to be activated)

MSRP for the 65" is ฿45,990 or RM5,962.

So why is this confusing?

1) The MSRP for Malaysia's 65" U7G is about RM6,000. Hisense Malaysia is really shortchanging us. And since this sample was reviewed recently, that means this model is already in production.

2) The Thai U7G unit is made in PRC - China. The review sample for the U8GQ that Vincent Teo received was also made in China. That TV uses an ADS screen, a variant of IPS. So that means EU is getting a lower specced version than Thailand.

US U8G > Thai U8G > UK U8GQ

Regarding the HDMI 2.1 ports and 60 Hz, the reviewer showed gaming Call of Duty at 1080p/120Hz. Input lag at 35ms in Game mode.

If somebody who understands Thai can watch the video above, let us know if I missed anything.
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Regarding the HDMI 2.1 ports and 60 Hz, the reviewer showed gaming Call of Duty at 1080p/120Hz. Input lag at 35ms in Game mode.

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35 ms input lag for 120hz in gaming mode ?
LG and Samsung are getting 5 ms .


Then what is the point of ALLM ?


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Hi Guys,
out of context, wanna ask you guys some question and recommendations.
Is Samsung Q65A ok for the price tag? if not, can you guys give recommendation tv around that price tag.Actually looking for tv got google assistant. Thinking Sony X80J but after see Rtings review kind of disappointed with that tv performance.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 28 2021, 08:14 PM)
Just note that Micro Dimming is not the same as Full Array Local Dimming.

If that fits your budget, it's the size you want and it has the features that you want, then that's the right one. But I would wait until you can get to the store and see one in person. Unless you really can't wait.
On separate news, Hisense Malaysia has created a form on Google Docs for people to pre-order the U7G.

user posted image

Here is the link.
RM4,600 for the 65" with a RM200 TnG reload. RM3,400 for the 55" with a RM100 TnG reload. TnG on first-come, first-served basiss. Pre-order period is July 1 to 15. TV is coming after that, I guess.
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I registered. But not a word from Hisense. Not even an email confirmation.

I don’t do gaming. So am wondering if Hisense 7G ULED worth it for me. Don’t think I want to wait till September for their deliveries.

Don’t know when MCO will end.

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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 4 2021, 04:00 PM)
I registered. But not a word from Hisense. Not even an email confirmation.
I don't work for or which Hisense, or any CE manufacturer so I don't know what to say to that. I do think the marketing person handling the pre-orders should at least check their Google survey and e-mail you a confirmation. Since the delivery is supposed to be in two weeks, they should send you something.

But it is MCO time. Time and space work differently.

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I would say if they don't send you anything - email or actual product - by end of July, you should cancel and get what you want is available.

You can get the U800QF if you want a FALD and Quantum Dot TV. The limitations are similar to the U7G, which are no eARC/HDMI 2.1 and no Android OS. The Sony X90H if you can find it, is RM1000 more.

I'm wondering if somebody would sell a Thai U8G on Shopee.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 4 2021, 04:19 PM)
I don't work for or which Hisense, or any CE manufacturer so I don't know what to say to that. I do think the marketing person handling the pre-orders should at least check their Google survey and e-mail you a confirmation. Since the delivery is supposed to be in two weeks, they should send you something.

But it is MCO time. Time and space work differently.

I would say if they don't send you anything - email or actual product - by end of July, you should cancel and get what you want is available.

You can get the U800QF if you want a FALD and Quantum Dot TV. The limitations are similar to the U7G, which are no eARC/HDMI 2.1 and no Android OS. The Sony X90H if you can find it, is RM1000 more.

I'm wondering if somebody would sell a Thai U8G on Shopee.
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What’s the U800QF? Sony is RM1K more than the FALD 7G ULED?

I’m still waffling between the Philips and this Hisense. But the rep at SenHeng is such a pain to deal with when I asked about the Philips. “We don’t carry that model”... “Don’t have”...




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I’m still waffling between the Philips and this Hisense. But the rep at SenHeng is such a pain to deal with when I asked about the Philips. “We don’t carry that model”... “Don’t have”...

I read that you already bought the Philips. So this is all moot now. Congrats!

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The Hisense 65" U800QF is their 2020 model at about RM4,700. The Sony 65" X90H is their 2020 model at about RM5,700 if you can find it.

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Hi there. Been using 65A7400F since last year. All good for my usage. Just want to know if there's any firmware update since my unit is still on April 2020 firmware. System update checks always says up-to-date.
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Hi there. Been using 65A7400F since last year. All good for my usage. Just want to know if there's any firmware update since my unit is still on April 2020 firmware. System update checks always says up-to-date.
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If you read or post in previous Hisense thread, then you should found links to firmware.
Btw,
look here:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3873180/+420

go to Russia 4pda forum (with google translate) and you will found more...
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If you read or post in previous Hisense thread, then you should found links to firmware.
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go to Russia 4pda forum (with google translate) and you will found more...
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Yes I've read that. It's just weird that there's never been any OTA update since purchased.
Anyway, I'm in touch with a developer from Reddit and waiting for his reply. It seems that only certain countries will receive OTA but not Malaysia. He needs to know exact model and current firmware to avoid bricking the TV.
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Yes I've read that. It's just weird that there's never been any OTA update since purchased.
Anyway, I'm in touch with a developer from Reddit and waiting for his reply. It seems that only certain countries will receive OTA but not Malaysia. He needs to know exact model and current firmware to avoid bricking the TV.
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This is one of the reason,why I choose TCL QLED C716.....regular firmware official update, at least once in 3-4 months
and many Beta firmware every month.
Not to mention QLED,etc....

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This is one of the reason,why I choose TCL QLED C716.....regular firmware official update, at least once in 3-4 months
and many Beta firmware every month.
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There are pros and cons in everything.

Hisense or any CEs that doesn't update every quarter or year could mean that they are lazy or that the product is low-end enough that doesn't warrant an update. Or what it is doing, it is doing well enough and there's no need to update.

TCL updating quarterly means they are actively listening to their customers and reacting. But it can also be seen as they are only fixing at things that are being pointed at. Should they instead be looking at and fixing everything in one firmware and leaving it be for six months or a year?

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In other news, apparently Hisense has extended the pre-order date of the U7G until 31st of July "due to popular demand". Usually when I read these kinds of sentences, it's due to unpopular demand. whistling.gif These days with YouTube and social media, it's easy to see what is being talked about anyway.

Still, marketing efforts notwithstanding, it doesn't mean that U7G is not a good TV. It just means that people don't want to buy something sight unseen. Maybe marketing have made plans for the TV to be reviewed but the MCO has screwed up their plans.

In other other news, the official Hisense store on Shopee has removed the U800QF model. But on Lazada, it's still there. confused.gif
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So LCDTVThailand has reviewed the 55" U7G. The review of course is in Thai.



The takeaway of the video is :
- Made in China.
- 60 Hz VA panel (probably 8-bit + FRC)
- Anti-glare screen
- Wide Colour Gamut via Quantum Dot
- 90 dimming zones for 65". 72 for 55"
- Measured peak brightness at 685 nits (lower than the advertised 700) and 94% DCI-P3 color space (lower than advertised 100%)
- HDR 10+ and Dolby Vision/Atmos
- Dolby Vision Bright, Dark and Custom.
- 4 HDMI 2.0 ports at 60 Hz. HDMI 2 Port is eARC. Website says HDMI 2.1. It could be that all the ports are 2.1 though.
- 2 USB Ports. One USB 3.
- VIDAA 5
- Game at 4K 60Hz or 1080p at 120Hz. Input lag at 13 ms.

MSRP for the 65" is ฿32,990 or RM4,244.

It's infuriating that Hisense Malaysia put the MSRP of U7G at RM6,000 and then "discounted" the pre-order price to RM4,600. It's a sales ploy.

Anyway, at least we know the confirmed specs. But then I thought, did LCDTVThailand review the U800QF, Hisense's top 2020 model?



The takeaway of the video is :
- Certified Ultra HD Premium
- Made in China.
- 60 Hz VA panel (probably 8-bit + FRC)
- Wide Colour Gamut via Quantum Dot
- 240 dimming zones for 65".
- Measured peak brightness at 1,231 nits (understating the advertised 1000+) and 97% DCI-P3 color space.
- Dolby Vision/Atmos
- JBL speakers
- 4 HDMI 2.0 ports at 60 Hz. HDMI 1 port is ARC.
- 2 USB 2.0 ports.
- VIDAA 4
- Game at 4K 60Hz. Input lag at 15 ms.

MSRP for the 65" is ฿45,990 or RM5,917. This seems to be their MSRP for their top tier level.

The video mentions you need to enable Dolby Atmos to pass it through via ARC. I've tested this model at Harvey Norman before. With Netflix, it does show Dolby Vision/Atmos logo. A firmware update is what happened. Dolby Atmos via Dolby Digital Plus for streaming works with ARC. Dolby Atmos via TrueHD would not work.


As far as I can tell, U8G > U800QF > U7G for these reasons:
1) Only the U8G uses 120Hz panel.
2) Peak brightness is over 1,000 nits for both U8G and U800QF. U7G only emits 685 nits.
3) eARC doesn't matter as much if your source of Dolby Atmos is from streaming services. Dolby Atmos from streaming uses Dolby Digital Plus which can work with ARC.
4) People who want to game at 4K 120Hz better get the U8G and have a beefy PCs because there are limited console games that support that right now.

So until Hisense launches the U8G, for Malaysian users who will use their TVs for movies more than for gaming, the choice is actually last year's U800QF.

The only downside to these Hisense models is the fact that they use VIDAA and not Android. Hisense is not that fast as updating their app availability. If Hisense VIDAA owners see that they've added Disney+ Hotstar, please let us know here. So owning them and wanting Disney+ Hotstar would require getting a Netflix certified 4K Android box, which would be about RM240 and up. If you want Android and Dolby TrueHD and DTS HDMA, you need a HTPC or NVidia's Shield basic at RM700.

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i always skeptikel when it comes to hisense, any good?
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i always skeptical when it comes to hisense, any good?
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The 65" U800QF is very good. Full array local dimming and Quantum Dot VA screen. You can check the specs here. It is also the only FALD model from them that you can buy right now from other online sellers other than Hisense.

The main drawback is the VIDAA OS. Smaller issues are HDMI 2.0 ARC only and 60Hz panel.

If you want Disney+ Hotstar or other Android apps, you need a Netflix-certified Android box. And if you want lossless audio on top of that, you need an NVidia Shield/Shield Pro or a HTPC.

The U7G, U900KF and other 2021 model I assume are delayed coming to the market because of the MCO.
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Just good hisense u800qf. Good picture quality hdr and dolby vision, but need tuning.

My only gripe is the viewing angle.
At certain angle you can tell that the contrast drops. It starts to have what it looks like a white haze.
MY previous TV was plasma so it was quite noticable.

Overall a good tv Now to check how reliable this tv is.




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Just good hisense u800qf. Good picture quality hdr and dolby vision, but need tuning.
What needed tuning? Color?

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My only gripe is the viewing angle.
At certain angle you can tell that the contrast drops. It starts to have what it looks like a white haze.
MY previous TV was plasma so it was quite noticable.
Well that's the nature of VA panels. Off axis, it looks faded.

If you want a wider viewing angle with an LCD TV, you'd want an IPS panel. But then you won't get the contrast and inky blacks.

If you go with OLED, you get the inky blacks and the contrast but you won't get the 1000 nits brightness. And spend a lot more money.

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Where'd you get it and how much was it?

I'm waiting until the stores are open to compare this with the U7G. And hoping that Hisense Malaysia brings in the U8G.

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What needed tuning? Color?

Well that's the nature of VA panels. Off axis, it looks faded.

If you want a wider viewing angle with an LCD TV, you'd want an IPS panel. But then you won't get the contrast and inky blacks.

If you go with OLED, you get the inky blacks and the contrast but you won't get the 1000 nits brightness. And spend a lot more money.

Where'd you get it and how much was it?

I'm waiting until the stores are open to compare this with the U7G. And hoping that Hisense Malaysia brings in the U8G.
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Dynamic/ standard colours too saturated and bright , Cinema not contrasty enough, so i tuned it somewhere in between standard and cinema.

32xx + 4xx for all together 5 years warranty.
It’s a Harvey Norman display set.

There’s was also samsung q80t 65 inch display set but selling at 6k

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Hi there. Been using 65A7400F since last year. All good for my usage. Just want to know if there's any firmware update since my unit is still on April 2020 firmware. System update checks always says up-to-date.
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Been using it since last year as well. It has been working fine, didnt bother about update. If you have android box, you will notice most update are about security updates which is totally not necessary for android tv.

I just want to ask 2 things.

1) I tried so many times to get the optical out working and even damaged the 'door/cover' which make the the cable click and stay attached. Are you able to get it working? I thought of repairing it but since I cant get it to work no matter what, I dont feel like wasting money.

2) Have you tried using bluetooth receiver with it? Did the audio lag and stutter?

Overall, Im happy with the overall performance. Didnt care about update since its mostly security. Turning MEMC OFF is better than having it on when watching anime which would introduce artifacts. I'm just not happy that I cant optical out or bluetooth audio out to make use of my edifier speaker. The nearest I gotten is buying hdmi arc but even getting that to work nicely also hard.
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If you go with OLED, you get the inky blacks and the contrast but you won't get the 1000 nits brightness. And spend a lot more money.


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What in the world are you going for again ?

What if the OLEDs don't get the 1000 nits ?

The purpose of having high brightness screens , is to have better visibility under strong lights .
But in this case , the cost cutting Hisense models don't nearly have the same anti-glare capability of a fully gloss-coated OLED screen , so the whole point is moot .

No LCD in the world can beat self emissive screen when it comes to sheer picture quality .

At least get your facts right before you preach your Almighty Hisense goodies to the others .

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The 65" U800QF is very good. Full array local dimming and Quantum Dot VA screen. You can check the specs here. It is also the only FALD model from them that you can buy right now from other online sellers other than Hisense.

The main drawback is the VIDAA OS. Smaller issues are HDMI 2.0 ARC only and 60Hz panel.

If you want Disney+ Hotstar or other Android apps, you need a Netflix-certified Android box. And if you want lossless audio on top of that, you need an NVidia Shield/Shield Pro or a HTPC.

The U7G, U900KF and other 2021 model I assume are delayed coming to the market because of the MCO.
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" Very good " eh ? How convenient .

Why are we not seeing your casual video review spams again ?
Perhaps you forgot to post one ?

Let me remind you .




Let's see , exactly which part did your favorite TV review mentioned " very good " again ?

All I am hearing is mostly " not on par with the other Notable brands " .



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1) I tried so many times to get the optical out working and even damaged the 'door/cover' which make the the cable click and stay attached. Are you able to get it working? I thought of repairing it but since I cant get it to work no matter what, I dont feel like wasting money.

2) Have you tried using bluetooth receiver with it? Did the audio lag and stutter?
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Not an owner so I can't really help you with the specifics.

1) What about it that's not working though? No sound at all?

On some TVs, in the Audio settings, you need to tell it to send audio via optical. When you do that, you will not get sound from the TV speakers. On my old LG TV, there's three settings - TV speakers, optical out and then another optical out - I forgot the name of the settings. Only one of the two optical settings output proper 5.1 passthrough. The other would only do so in stereo.

By the way, have you tried the optical input on your Edifier with a CD/DVD/Playstation 3/4?

2) There are many BT standards before we got BT to 5.0. Even then, not all implementations are the same. The bad ones show lag. Unless there is some BT settings on the TV, I'm afraid you're out of luck there.


QUOTE(Drian @ Jul 30 2021, 01:34 AM)
Dynamic/ standard colours too saturated and bright , Cinema not contrasty enough, so i tuned it somewhere in between standard and cinema.

32xx + 4xx for all together 5 years warranty.
It’s a Harvey Norman display set.
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Wow. A display set of the U800QF. That usually means they are getting ready to bring in the new models. Which means the U7G is on the way. While I wouldn't buy a display set TV, that's a pretty good deal especially since you have that warranty.

The thing that brings me back to the U800QF - because Malaysia is not gettting the U8G - instead of the U7G is the peak brightness. The U7G measured about 685 nits, according to the Thai review. The U800QF had 1,235 nits according to the same review. For HDR and Dolby Vision content, that is important.



There are pros and cons in everything. For its price, size and feature set, it still can't be beat. But I still want the U8G.

By the way, did Hisense update VIDAA and add Disney+ Hotstar?



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Not an owner so I can't really help you with the specifics.

1) What about it that's not working though? No sound at all?

On some TVs, in the Audio settings, you need to tell it to send audio via optical. When you do that, you will not get sound from the TV speakers. On my old LG TV, there's three settings - TV speakers, optical out and then another optical out - I forgot the name of the settings. Only one of the two optical settings output proper 5.1 passthrough. The other would only do so in stereo.

By the way, have you tried the optical input on your Edifier with a CD/DVD/Playstation 3/4?

2) There are many BT standards before we got BT to 5.0. Even then, not all implementations are the same. The bad ones show lag. Unless there is some BT settings on the TV, I'm afraid you're out of luck there.

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1) Yeah, no sound at all. Tried another cable also same. Also cant be sure speaker optical problem or tv. I dont have PlayStation.

2) Tried the receiver with my phone and it works just fine. I also tried another Edifier speaker with bluetooth and it works without stutter. Annoying... but what can I do. I still had another cheaper version of receiver... havent tried that yet.

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1) Yeah, no sound at all. Tried another cable also same. Also cant be sure speaker optical problem or tv. I dont have PlayStation.
It doesn't have to be a Playstation. It can be a CD or DVD player. The optical standard would be the same.

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Another day, another "what the **** is Hisense Malaysia doing?" Or not doing.

So the tired, monthly day-month sale is coming to online shops in Malaysia. For 8.8, Hisense Malaysia is doing nothing. Hisense Thailand, on Shopee, is having an 8.8 sale. Like a real sale.

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The newly launched 65" U7G is going for ฿25,290 or RM3,247.

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The newly launched 65" U8G is going for ฿33,690 or RM4,325. EDIT: Changed U7G to U8G here.

Hisense Thailand is putting Hisense Malaysia to shame.

Anybody knows anybody who lives near the Malaysian-Thailand border? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 31 2021, 03:15 PM)
Another day, another "what the **** is Hisense Malaysia doing?" Or not doing.

So the tired, monthly day-month sale is coming to online shops in Malaysia. For 8.8, Hisense Malaysia is doing nothing. Hisense Thailand, on Shopee, is having an 8.8 sale. Like a real sale.

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The newly launched 65" U7G is going for ฿25,290 or RM3,247.

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The newly launched 65" U7G is going for ฿33,690 or RM4,325.

Hisense Thailand is putting Hisense Malaysia to shame.

Anybody knows anybody who lives near the Malaysian-Thailand border?  biggrin.gif
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Most of the Hisense Malaysia sales department employees are aunties uncles and they're like "wtf is HDMI 2.1? is that a chocolate bar?"

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Here's the U8G you can buy in Malaysia:

https://www.ubuy.com.my/en/product/L222HJNQ...t-tv-2021-model
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UBuy is a freight forwarding company. They don't have a store or a presence in Malaysia. Also for RM11,000 that they charge, I could just buy an OLED here.

The U8G costs $1,250. Even if UBuy is located in California, where the sales tax is 7.25, that's $1,340 which is RM5,652. FedEx is going to charge them $1000 to ship it to Malaysia?

It is just unfortunate that Thais can buy a pretty good version of the U8G for a very good price (right now) and we cannot.
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yeah its sad we dont get the U8G here. i was looking at the U7G and Hisense quoted me this:
"The selling price of this model 55” is RM4,399 and 65” is RM5,999, but do note that the prices may be vary from stores to stores"

And this is for the U7G 55" model.Stocks will only be available at the end of August.

So now im thinking, should i wait for this or maybe get the Sony X80J/ X90J series?

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yeah its sad we dont get the U8G here. i was looking at the U7G and Hisense quoted me this:
"The selling price of this model 55” is RM4,399 and 65” is RM5,999, but do note that the prices may be vary from stores to stores"

And this is for the U7G 55" model.Stocks will only be available at the end of August.

So now im thinking, should i wait for this or maybe get the Sony X80J/ X90J series?
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The X80s doesn't have local dimming. The 90s have local dimming. 65" X90J costs RM7,000. Both models are Android based.

It depends on your requirements - space, budget, features. The Hisense U8G and U800QF are the best 65" model for the features at RM5,000 price level - full array local dimming, 1000+ nits brightness, Quantum Dot with wide color gamut, VA panel and Dolby Vision. You do need to fork out RM220-RM700 for an Android player - Tivo 4K or NVidia Shield - for all the Android features you want.

If Hisense Malaysia had competitively priced the U7G and the U8G, these TVs would be a big hit. If the models could be changed to Android, it would be a really big hit.

I've compared how Hisense Thai do their marketing on Facebook vs how Hisense Malaysia is doing theirs. Clearly they know how to sell while the Malaysian one is slowly opening a Hisense Museum.

To frustratingly reiterate my point, Hisense Thailand has an 8.8 sale of RM3,247 for the 65" U7G and RM4,325 for the 65" U8G. Feature for feature, you can't beat that price.

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The X80s doesn't have local dimming. The 90s have local dimming. 65" X90J costs RM7,000. Both models are Android based.

It depends on your requirements - space, budget, features. The Hisense U8G and U800QF are the best 65" model for the features at RM5,000 price level - full array local dimming, 1000+ nits brightness, Quantum Dot with wide color gamut, VA panel and Dolby Vision. You do need to fork out RM220-RM700 for an Android player - Tivo 4K or NVidia Shield - for all the Android features you want.

If Hisense Malaysia had competitively priced the U7G and the U8G, these TVs would be a big hit. If the models could be changed to Android, it would be a really big hit.

I've compared how Hisense Thai do their marketing on Facebook vs how Hisense Malaysia is doing theirs. Clearly they know how to sell while the Malaysian one is slowly opening a Hisense Museum.

To frustratingly reiterate my point, Hisense Thailand has an 8.8 sale of RM3,247 for the 65" U7G and RM4,325 for the 65" U8G. Feature for feature, you can't beat that price.
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Agreed. Disappointing Hisense Msia.
Both models dont have Android & running on their own VIDAA OS.

Im looking at the 55" variant cause 65" is too big for my space. Samsung is really expensive & the U8G seems to the bang for buck.
Sony - well i dont know what to choose...
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Agreed. Disappointing Hisense Msia.
Both models dont have Android & running on their own VIDAA OS.
Well to be fair to Hisense Malaysia on this particular point, the blame for VIDAA is solely on Hisense HQ. North American models come with Android. They should have made the 2021 U series all Android worldwide.

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If 65" is too big, then you've locked down one requirement.

The next is the budget and features. Unless you can import the 55" U8G, you won't be getting 1000+ nits brightness from I think most TVs out there at that price point. So then you're working with 700-900 nit brightness TVs.

Sony X90J: Android. FALD. Dolby Vision. VA Panel. 120 Hz panel.
Sony X80J: Android. Dolby Vision. ADS IPS Panel. 60 Hz panel.
Hisense U7G: FALD. Quantum Dot. Dolby Vision. Va Panel. 120 Hz panel.

Once you choose what features that's important, you'll find your TV. Hopefully it'll fit your budget.
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Well to be fair to Hisense Malaysia on this particular point, the blame for VIDAA is solely on Hisense HQ. North American models come with Android. They should have made the 2021 U series all Android worldwide.

If 65" is too big, then you've locked down one requirement.

The next is the budget and features. Unless you can import the 55" U8G, you won't be getting 1000+ nits brightness from I think most TVs out there at that price point. So then you're working with 700-900 nit brightness TVs.

Sony X90J: Android. FALD. Dolby Vision. VA Panel. 120 Hz panel.
Sony X80J: Android. Dolby Vision. ADS IPS Panel. 60 Hz panel.
Hisense U7G: FALD. Quantum Dot. Dolby Vision. Va Panel. 120 Hz panel.

Once you choose what features that's important, you'll find your TV. Hopefully it'll fit your budget.
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Just realized that the model in Malaysia does not have HDMI 2.1..its all 2.0 - dang!
Now im back to square one on choosing a TV

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Just realized that the model in Malaysia does not have HDMI 2.1..its all 2.0 - dang!
Now im back to square one on choosing a TV
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HDMI 2.0 can do eARC and VRR. HDMI 2.1 can do 8K, 4K 120 Hz with HDR and ALLM. If your use case needs HDMI 2.1, then you need to do another research. Otherwise, HDMI 2.0 is good enough.
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HDMI 2.0 can do eARC and VRR. HDMI 2.1 can do 8K, 4K 120 Hz with HDR and ALLM. If your use case needs HDMI 2.1, then you need to do another research. Otherwise, HDMI 2.0 is good enough.
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Ahhh.. Ok.. I am looking for the 2.1..seems like I need to look at either Samsung or Sony models..

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Browsing thru shopee these few days. So many models of hisense and I’m not sure which model is later. So confused.
Anyways I’m looking for 65” 4K and can watch Netflix in Dolby mode. Budget 3k below. Can recommend pls?
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Hi,
Browsing thru shopee these few days. So many models of hisense and I’m not sure which model is later. So confused.

This is the Hisense TV product page. The New banner should tell you which models are the new ones.

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Anyways I’m looking for 65” 4K and can watch Netflix in Dolby mode. Budget 3k below. Can recommend pls?
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Lots of TVs from TCL, Hisense, Philips, LG and Sony to choose from with your requirement. You should add Android to that, if you want Disney + Hotstar.

Other than that, I can't recommend anything because picture quality is something to be seen, not read. I don't review TVs professionally. I certainly have not seen the latest TVs at the shops this year. sweat.gif

Choose based on your space requirement, your budget, the features you want and your use case.

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Waiting patiently to pull the trigger on 9.9 for the 65 U800QF if the price is right.
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It's possible but I wouldn't hold my breath. Most Malaysian retailers are really bad at these #.# sales. As I pointed out before, during the 8.8 sales in Thailand, Hisense Thailand actually offered their U8G and U7G 50% discounts. Malaysian retailers offered a pittance of price cuts, like RM50 or RM100 for items over RM3,000.

I think if you really want a deal for the the U800QF, buy at Harvey Norman, Jaya Jusco or other retailers. Hisense Malaysia says that if you buy retail, you get 3-year warranty instead of 2 if you buy online. They would try selling it at the store for RM5,000 so you need to haggle it down to RM4.700.

EDIT: Try this seller on Shopee but be sure you chat with them first about the U800QF.


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It's possible but I wouldn't hold my breath. Most Malaysian retailers are really bad at these #.# sales. As I pointed out before, during the 8.8 sales in Thailand, Hisense Thailand actually offered their U8G and U7G 50% discounts. Malaysian retailers offered a pittance of price cuts, like RM50 or RM100 for items over RM3,000.

I think if you really want a deal for the the U800QF, buy at Harvey Norman, Jaya Jusco or other retailers. Hisense Malaysia says that if you buy retail, you get 3-year warranty instead of 2 if you buy online. They would try selling it at the store for RM5,000 so you need to haggle it down to RM4.700.

EDIT: Try this seller on Shopee but be sure you chat with them first about the U800QF.
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You are resourceful. Decent Malaysia pricing for the 65 U800. I didnt realise its only a 60Hz panel until i saw your previous post. Might be a letdown and need to demo the set first.
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You are resourceful. Decent Malaysia pricing for the 65 U800. I didnt realise its only a 60Hz panel until i saw your previous post. Might be a letdown and need to demo the set first.
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If the U800QF is a 120Hz panel TV, Hisense would sell a lot more than they have. For movie and TV watching, 60Hz panel is more than enough. 60Hz gaming is good too.

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Just pulled the trigger on a display set 65U800QF from Harvey Norman. This stock from January 2021, but considering the months of shutdown, I figured not too bad. Looks great and no physical defects to note. Only thing is no box, but not a big deal for me.

Price was RM4,2xx with free 5 years warranty and delivery in KV.

Was tempted to get the 55-inch Sony X90J for around RM3xx more, but would have had to top up another RM8xx to match the 5 years warranty period. The 65-inch X90J was expectedly gorgeous, but out of my current budget.

Also considered the TCL C716 for slightly cheaper, but U800 has FLAD and a much higher peak brightness. In the end the other major difference for users is Vidaa vs Android TV. Either way doesn't matter at all to me, I'm hooking it up to an nVidia Shield TV Pro (2019).

U7G was also in consideration, but the Malaysian model is lacking a bit with no HDMI 2.1 and no 120Hz panel. Peak brightness is also worse than the U800.

Hope I've made the right decision to last for a few years. Should be arriving tomorrow, excited to experience my first 4K TV smile.gif
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Sep 5 2021, 06:18 PM)
Just pulled the trigger on a display set 65U800QF from Harvey Norman. This stock from January 2021, but considering the months of shutdown, I figured not too bad. Looks great and no physical defects to note. Only thing is no box, but not a big deal for me.

Price was RM4,2xx with free 5 years warranty and delivery in KV.

Was tempted to get the 55-inch Sony X90J for around RM3xx more, but would have had to top up another RM8xx to match the 5 years warranty period. The 65-inch X90J was expectedly gorgeous, but out of my current budget.

Also considered the TCL C716 for slightly cheaper, but U800 has FLAD and a much higher peak brightness. In the end the other major difference for users is Vidaa vs Android TV. Either way doesn't matter at all to me, I'm hooking it up to an nVidia Shield TV Pro (2019).

U7G was also in consideration, but the Malaysian model is lacking a bit with no HDMI 2.1 and no 120Hz panel. Peak brightness is also worse than the U800.

Hope I've made the right decision to last for a few years. Should be arriving tomorrow, excited to experience my first 4K TV smile.gif
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Great . Pls provide a review ya.

I wonder if this U800 support HDR10. Cant see it at the official specs. Is it a Semi Gloss panel ? How does it handle reflection and flickering?
Pls let us know how was it watching movies in the dark and dim light condition as i fear its supreme brightness might scorch the eyes.


I am contemplating between buying the U800 , Sony X900H/X90J and the Oled TV.

Thanks in advance.

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Great . Pls provide a review ya.

I wonder if this U800 support HDR10. Cant see it at the official specs. Is it a Semi Gloss panel ? How does it handle reflection  and flickering?
Pls let us know how was it watching movies in the dark and dim light condition as i fear its supreme brightness might scorch the eyes.
I am contemplating between buying the U800 , Sony X900H/X90J and the Oled TV.

Thanks in advance.
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I think if I had more budget, I would have gone for the 65-inch X90J. On paper and in person, without question it is the better TV. At that price point might also top up a bit to get OLED, but for me OLED not viable with my TV placement beside sliding door and balcony, so brightness will be an issue during the daytime.

The only worrying aspect for U800 is reports of the backlight shutting down in really dim scenes (resulting in a black screen), as well as reports of motion issues. Will have to wait and see when my unit arrives.
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Sep 5 2021, 06:18 PM)
Just pulled the trigger on a display set 65U800QF from Harvey Norman. This stock from January 2021, but considering the months of shutdown, I figured not too bad. Looks great and no physical defects to note. Only thing is no box, but not a big deal for me.

Price was RM4,2xx with free 5 years warranty and delivery in KV.

Was tempted to get the 55-inch Sony X90J for around RM3xx more, but would have had to top up another RM8xx to match the 5 years warranty period. The 65-inch X90J was expectedly gorgeous, but out of my current budget.
Good price with the extra two years warranty.

Some people seem to forget that most people must stick to a budget when buying anything. At this price with its size and feature, it's a good buy.

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Also considered the TCL C716 for slightly cheaper, but U800 has FLAD and a much higher peak brightness. In the end the other major difference for users is Vidaa vs Android TV. Either way doesn't matter at all to me, I'm hooking it up to an nVidia Shield TV Pro (2019).
Would be interested to see how the AI Upscaler on the Shield would look like. Supposed to be very good.

The built-in Media Player of the TV can play Dolby Vision MP4s, FYI. I don't know if Kodi could.

Here is the Demolandia download page of Dolby Vision clips you can test. Of course, some Netflix movies and series are also in Dolby Vision.

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U7G was also in consideration, but the Malaysian model is lacking a bit with no HDMI 2.1 and no 120Hz panel. Peak brightness is also worse than the U800.
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At 700+ nits, it's a bit of a drop-off from the U800QF's 1000+ nits. But I was surprised to learn that below RM3,000 Dolby Vision TVs have peak brightness below 400. That's the FALD advantage.

QUOTE(sunnyK @ Sep 6 2021, 09:33 AM)
I wonder if this U800 support HDR10. Cant see it at the official specs.
HDR10 is the basic HDR standard. It supports HDR10+. I'm not sure about HLG but the UK version does support it.

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Pls let us know how was it watching movies in the dark and dim light condition as i fear its supreme brightness might scorch the eyes.
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Any LCD TV can have their backlight adjusted. There's Dolby Vision Bright and Dark mode as well, if you don't want to meddle with the backlight.

QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Sep 6 2021, 10:19 AM)
The only worrying aspect for U800 is reports of the backlight shutting down in really dim scenes (resulting in a black screen), as well as reports of motion issues. Will have to wait and see when my unit arrives.
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Fortunately most films and TVs are not made with really dim scenes. There are certainly test scenes that TV reviewers use as a torture test. But most content doesn't fall under that.

Hopefully the delivery goes as planned.
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Sep 6 2021, 10:19 AM)
I think if I had more budget, I would have gone for the 65-inch X90J. On paper and in person, without question it is the better TV. At that price point might also top up a bit to get OLED, but for me OLED not viable with my TV placement beside sliding door and balcony, so brightness will be an issue during the daytime.

The only worrying aspect for U800 is reports of the backlight shutting down in really dim scenes (resulting in a black screen), as well as reports of motion issues. Will have to wait and see when my unit arrives.
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I kinda fancy less the Sony X900H/X90J as both uses Pulse-Width Modulation (PWM) . A bit letdown by this and my eyes are quite sensitive to flickering.
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seems like no u8g for malaysia?
Aih, hisense malaysia really kinda sucks, malaysia could be one of their key demographics for them to gain market share actually.

Really bad foresight/marketing team they have here
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Hello. TV was delivered yday evening and I have set it up on my TV console (Ikea Besta with Ikea Uppleva mount). Some first impressions :

1) 65-inch is incredibly big! Viewing distance is about 2.5 meters. Will take some time to get used to, but it's nice to be this immersed into the content. Context, I was coming from a basic LG 43-inch Full HD TV from 2016. This is a massive step up in size and everything else.

2) IT LOOKS AWESOME! I mean, I might not have the sharpest eyes to detect blooming, ghosting, motion blurs and all that. I'm also not the kind of person to throw up a bunch of test videos on this TV to find its flaws. I plugged it in, and straight away started to enjoy my usual content on Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. It's an incredibly enjoyable experience IMO.

3) HDR content really pops! The screen gets really bright to the point that gun muzzle flashes (sp?) and things like lightning get shockingly bright. Never having had a HDR TV before, I don't have anything to compare to. Regardless, I'm impressed by the dynamic range it is able to display in the shadows and highlights.

4) Full-array local dimming is great. I've been watching Night on Earth (Netflix) a lot, and the effect is just stunning, even with the subtitles on. Shots with the lit moon on one half of the screen and complete darkness on the other blows my mind away. Even when subtitles are on, I have not noticed issues with blooming around the text, at least not to my untrained eyes. The black levels really impress me, and I'm not sure it gets much better than this other than going full OLED.

5) Motion is a bit iffy with some settings. With smooth motion disabled, motion is quite juddery and stuttery. I also notice it sometimes struggling a bit with dark areas. I have played around with it, and so far am settling with the 'Film' setting, and it seems to have fixed those issues. 'Smooth' is a bit too buttery and Soap Opera for me, and I don't like it (maybe later for football or F1), but definitely not movies and shows. I will continue to experiment with this, but so far I am happy with 'Film'.

6) Speakers are okay, better than most TVs, but definitely more garbage than any average sound bar. Doesn't matter to me, I don't use the TV speakers at all other than the initial testing while the TV was set on the floor.


Overall, I am really surprisingly impressed by this TV. It looked great in the store, but I feel it looks even better at home. Even watching 1080p content is really enjoyable (mind you, I am using the upscaling from my nVidia Shield Pro 2019, so it might just be the Shield's excellent upscaling). For the price I paid, I am really happy with it. No TV is perfect, and this one certainly is not either, but the price-to-performance ratio hits the sweet spot for me smile.gif
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Sep 8 2021, 02:28 PM)
Hello. TV was delivered yday evening and I have set it up on my TV console (Ikea Besta with Ikea Uppleva mount). Some first impressions :

1) 65-inch is incredibly big! Viewing distance is about 2.5 meters. Will take some time to get used to, but it's nice to be this immersed into the content. Context, I was coming from a basic LG 43-inch Full HD TV from 2016. This is a massive step up in size and everything else.

2) IT LOOKS AWESOME! I mean, I might not have the sharpest eyes to detect blooming, ghosting, motion blurs and all that. I'm also not the kind of person to throw up a bunch of test videos on this TV to find its flaws. I plugged it in, and straight away started to enjoy my usual content on Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. It's an incredibly enjoyable experience IMO.

3) HDR content really pops! The screen gets really bright to the point that gun muzzle flashes (sp?) and things like lightning get shockingly bright. Never having had a HDR TV before, I don't have anything to compare to. Regardless, I'm impressed by the dynamic range it is able to display in the shadows and highlights.

4) Full-array local dimming is great. I've been watching Night on Earth (Netflix) a lot, and the effect is just stunning, even with the subtitles on. Shots with the lit moon on one half of the screen and complete darkness on the other blows my mind away. Even when subtitles are on, I have not noticed issues with blooming around the text, at least not to my untrained eyes. The black levels really impress me, and I'm not sure it gets much better than this other than going full OLED.

5) Motion is a bit iffy with some settings. With smooth motion disabled, motion is quite juddery and stuttery. I also notice it sometimes struggling a bit with dark areas. I have played around with it, and so far am settling with the 'Film' setting, and it seems to have fixed those issues. 'Smooth' is a bit too buttery and Soap Opera for me, and I don't like it (maybe later for football or F1), but definitely not movies and shows. I will continue to experiment with this, but so far I am happy with 'Film'.

6) Speakers are okay, better than most TVs, but definitely more garbage than any average sound bar. Doesn't matter to me, I don't use the TV speakers at all other than the initial testing while the TV was set on the floor.
Overall, I am really surprisingly impressed by this TV. It looked great in the store, but I feel it looks even better at home. Even watching 1080p content is really enjoyable (mind you, I am using the upscaling from my nVidia Shield Pro 2019, so it might just be the Shield's excellent upscaling). For the price I paid, I am really happy with it. No TV is perfect, and this one certainly is not either, but the price-to-performance ratio hits the sweet spot for me smile.gif
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Great on you mate.

Obviously , the blacks are great and with less blooming too compare to other LCD maker except Samsung Neo series.
Did you notice any flickering , I heard its very much contained which is good. Panel finished , is it semi glossy ?
HDR 10 , support ? But i reckon DV is more than sufficient.


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Is it not good enough? I'm actually looking at this model right now.
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Sep 8 2021, 06:50 PM)
Great on you mate.

Obviously , the blacks are great and with less blooming too compare to other LCD maker except Samsung Neo series.
Did you notice any flickering , I heard its very much contained which is good. Panel finished , is it semi glossy ?
HDR 10 ,  support ? But i reckon DV is more than sufficient.
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Flickering I believe is very subjective from person to person. Personally, I never noticed any but YMMV. Panel is definitely not matte, but it handles direct reflections quite well from natural light coming in from the side of the TV. Haven't experienced any moment where I felt that glare or reflections were negatively noticeable.

Can't say much about HDR10, have not tried it personally.
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QUOTE(eltaria @ Sep 8 2021, 09:50 AM)
seems like no u8g for malaysia?
Aih, hisense malaysia really kinda sucks, malaysia could be one of their key demographics for them to gain market share actually.

Really bad foresight/marketing team they have here
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Hisense Malaysia's marketing is pretty bad. But the blame can't be on them entirely.

Hisense HQ aka Hisense China did not procure enough 120Hz VA panels for worldwide production of 2021 U series. Whatever they have bought, it all went to Hisense Mexico, which made all TVs for the North American market. The rest of the world got VA or IPS panels and not 120Hz either.

In terms of features, there's a bunch of differences between the U800QF and the Asian U8G. The main thing is the U8G has eARC via HDMI 2.1 on ONE port. That's only useful if you want lossless audio. Since the Asian U8G doesn't have 120 Hz panel, having all ports to be HDMI 2.1 is a moot point.

The U800QF doesn't have eARC but you can get Dolby Atmos via Dolby Digital Plus through HDMI 2.0. So not a big problem with that.


QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Sep 8 2021, 02:28 PM)
Hello. TV was delivered yday evening and I have set it up on my TV console (Ikea Besta with Ikea Uppleva mount). Some first impressions :
I'm surprised you came up for air to post on this forum so soon. biggrin.gif

Glad that it all worked out for you.


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1) 65-inch is incredibly big! Viewing distance is about 2.5 meters. Will take some time to get used to, but it's nice to be this immersed into the content. Context, I was coming from a basic LG 43-inch Full HD TV from 2016. This is a massive step up in size and everything else.
I don't know. I was a meter away sitting in front of the Mi Q1 75" at the Xioami showroom. My first thought was, "This seems small." sweat.gif

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2) IT LOOKS AWESOME! I mean, I might not have the sharpest eyes to detect blooming, ghosting, motion blurs and all that. I'm also not the kind of person to throw up a bunch of test videos on this TV to find its flaws. I plugged it in, and straight away started to enjoy my usual content on Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. It's an incredibly enjoyable experience IMO.

3) HDR content really pops! The screen gets really bright to the point that gun muzzle flashes (sp?) and things like lightning get shockingly bright. Never having had a HDR TV before, I don't have anything to compare to. Regardless, I'm impressed by the dynamic range it is able to display in the shadows and highlights.

4) Full-array local dimming is great. I've been watching Night on Earth (Netflix) a lot, and the effect is just stunning, even with the subtitles on. Shots with the lit moon on one half of the screen and complete darkness on the other blows my mind away. Even when subtitles are on, I have not noticed issues with blooming around the text, at least not to my untrained eyes. The black levels really impress me, and I'm not sure it gets much better than this other than going full OLED.
I would recommend re-watching all the Netflix-owned content that you liked before you got the TV.

Series: Kingdom, Stranger Things, Dark, Star Trek Discovery and The Witcher.
Movies: My Octopus Teacher, The Old Guard, Mank, Rising Phoenix and Kate (September 10).

And maybe built a 4K UHD Blu-ray collection? heheh...

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5) Motion is a bit iffy with some settings. With smooth motion disabled, motion is quite juddery and stuttery. I also notice it sometimes struggling a bit with dark areas. I have played around with it, and so far am settling with the 'Film' setting, and it seems to have fixed those issues. 'Smooth' is a bit too buttery and Soap Opera for me, and I don't like it (maybe later for football or F1), but definitely not movies and shows. I will continue to experiment with this, but so far I am happy with 'Film'.
For film and series, Film mode is usually the go-to. Smooth can be used for wildlife documentaries or reality series.

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6) Speakers are okay, better than most TVs, but definitely more garbage than any average sound bar. Doesn't matter to me, I don't use the TV speakers at all other than the initial testing while the TV was set on the floor.
Maybe a future home theater upgrade? hehe...


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Overall, I am really surprisingly impressed by this TV. It looked great in the store, but I feel it looks even better at home. Even watching 1080p content is really enjoyable (mind you, I am using the upscaling from my nVidia Shield Pro 2019, so it might just be the Shield's excellent upscaling). For the price I paid, I am really happy with it. No TV is perfect, and this one certainly is not either, but the price-to-performance ratio hits the sweet spot for me smile.gif
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This makes me want to buy an Nvidia Shield just for the AI upscaling.


QUOTE(sunnyK @ Sep 8 2021, 06:50 PM)
HDR 10 ,  support ? But i reckon DV is more than sufficient.
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HDR10 is baseline HDR. 4K TVs that advertise as having HDR would have that. Read the HDR10 and HDR10+ primer here.Maybe you mean HDR10+, which the U800QF does too. I don't know about HLG.

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Looks like a promising alternative in Android not vidaa

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Is it not good enough? I'm actually looking at this model right now.
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I think it is bangs for your hard earned bucks. Dolby Vision-Atmos, HDR10, Full Array, Local Dimming at this price is a bargain. The only thing that is wrong for me is the size as I'm looking for the 65" or higher.
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I think it is bangs for your hard earned bucks. Dolby Vision-Atmos, HDR10, Full Array, Local Dimming at this price is a bargain. The only thing that is wrong for me is the size as I'm looking for the 65" or higher.
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Hmmm. Hopefully it's not a costly mistake for you.

Below RM5,000, both 65" version of the U7G and the U800QF are viable options. After Hisense, the price goes up above RM6,000. The Mi Q1 75" can be found for RM6,000 I think.

Beyond RM6,000 and 75", a projector is the only way to go. You can choose either an Ultra-Short Throw projector like the BenQ V70501 or a mini projector like the XGimi Horizon Pro. Both have true 4K resolution.

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Greetings to all sifus here..
I'm considering hisense A6500G 50" (budget limited la tongue.gif) soo any opinion here? My budget about 2k laa..

I also looked into models below.. :-
TCL P715 (but 2.4ghz wifi)
Prism+ (emmm too hype with d influencers..takut de)

TQ in advance ya..
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Greetings to all sifus here..
I'm considering hisense A6500G 50" (budget limited la tongue.gif) soo any opinion here? My budget about 2k laa..

I also looked into models below..  :-
TCL P715 (but 2.4ghz wifi)
Prism+ (emmm too hype with d influencers..takut de)

TQ in advance ya..
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I have not seen the Hisense A6500G nor the TCL P715 so I got no opinion there. But I think by now some shops may have display sets of both so you can go have a look.

The 50" A6500G is RM2,200 according to Hisense shop on Shopee. If that's the hard budget, you might want to look at TCL or other brands that can give you a 55" for the same price and for about the same feature - Android OS, Dolby Vision - that you want. A one-year old model is still okay to buy. A bigger screen gives you a better impact so take that into consideration.

Of course, if your constraints are budget AND space, then 50" is the TV for you.

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I have not seen the Hisense A6500G nor the TCL P715 so I got no opinion there. But I think by now some shops may have display sets of both so you can go have a look.

The 50" A6500G is RM2,200 according to Hisense shop on Shopee. If that's the hard budget, you might want to look at TCL or other brands that can give you a 55" for the same price and for about the same feature - Android OS, Dolby Vision - that you want. A one-year old model is still okay to buy. A bigger screen gives you a better impact so take that into consideration.

Of course, if your constraints are budget AND space, then 50" is the TV for you.
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What the difference between u7g malaysia and u7g us?
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Technically U7G South East Asia, not just Malaysia.

The main thing is the panel. U7G US has 120 Hz panel. U7G Asia has 60Hz panel; so no HDMI 2.1 inputs it but has eARC.

The other is OS. U7G US is running on Android. U7G Asia runs on VIDAA 5.

If you really want a 120Hz panel, then that's a deal breaker. If you don't, then you can choose either the U7G or the U800QF.

If you want 120Hz panel, FALD, QDot and Android, wait for the TCL C825. TCL Malaysia should launch that soon or not. But it's going to be RM8,000+ for the 65".
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Sep 16 2021, 06:14 PM)
Technically U7G South East Asia, not just Malaysia.

The main thing is the panel. U7G US has 120 Hz panel. U7G Asia has 60Hz panel; so no HDMI 2.1 inputs it but has eARC.

The other is OS. U7G US is running on Android. U7G Asia runs on VIDAA 5.

If you really want a 120Hz panel, then that's a deal breaker. If you don't, then you can choose either the U7G or the U800QF.

If you want 120Hz panel, FALD, QDot and Android, wait for the TCL C825. TCL Malaysia should launch that soon or not. But it's going to be RM8,000+ for the 65".
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Anyone know good and trusted store to buy u7g online?
Or maybe someone know a shop in kuala terengganu have hisense u7g?
Thanks.
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Anyone know good and trusted store to buy u7g online?

Tis is the link for the 65" U7G direct from Hisense on Shopee.
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Or maybe someone know a shop in kuala terengganu have hisense u7g?
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If you buy retail, the electrical shop gets some profit. The price might be slightly higher but you do get three year warranty instead of two when you buy online.

Kuala Terengganu doesn't seem to have a Harvey Norman. I don't know if other shops have display models of Hisense TVs.

Both Hisense and TCL have retail problems. Salespeople need commissions. People who buy retail are more attracted to brand name than product features. So even though they know some Hisense/TCL TVs have better picture, salespeople also know that "China made" doesn't mean much.

At least TCL includes Android. Hisense using VIDAA is a losing proposition in the long run, except in China.

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Can I install disney+ hotstar app on U7G? Any U7G user here? Thinking of buying 1.
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Can I install disney+ hotstar app on U7G? Any U7G user here? Thinking of buying 1.
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As far as I know, no. Hisense China and their VIDAA.

You need to get the new Firestick TV 4K, Tivo Stream 4K or NVidia Shield. They are not only Netflix certified, they are also Dolby Vision capable.

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So Hisense can sao pei la if they're only bringing their B game to SEA.
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So Hisense can sao pei la if they're only bringing their B game to SEA.
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It's not just SEA but globally, EXCEPT in North America - Canada, Mexico and US.

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Just order hisense u7g last night. I hope the tv arrive safely. My 1st 4k tv 😁
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Just order hisense u7g last night. I hope the tv arrive safely. My 1st 4k tv 😁
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Is anyone here familiar on what sign/label on the Hisense TV as per picture. My TV currently has no volume/sound coming out of it (yesterday is ok).

I tried the mute button on both the TV remote and Astro remote, still there's no sound coming out from the TV, and the label is still there on the TV.

Anybody have an idea what it is and how to get back sound in my TV?
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Is anyone here familiar on what sign/label on the Hisense TV as per picture. My TV currently has no volume/sound coming out of it (yesterday is ok).

I tried the mute button on both the TV remote and Astro remote, still there's no sound coming out from the TV, and the label is still there on the TV.

Anybody have an idea what it is and how to get back sound in my TV?
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That's the mute icon. Your TV is on mute.

1) Try the remote. If you can use the remote to change inputs, increase the volume or navigate, then it's the TV. If you cannot use the remote, try changing the batteries.

2) Try the physical volume buttons on the TV. Some TVs would un-mute once you press up or down volume.

EDIT: Mute, not mutu. icon_rolleyes.gif

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That's the mute icon. Your TV is on mute.

1) Try the remote. If you can use the remote to change inputs, increase the volume or navigate, then it's the TV. If you cannot use the remote, try changing the batteries.

2) Try the physical volume buttons on the TV. Some TVs would un-mute once you press up or down volume.

EDIT: Mute, not mutu.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I know it's the mute icon. But I don't think it's the TV mute icon as when the mute button on the TV is press, a mute icon on the TV will appear on the lower right side of the screen
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I know it's the mute icon. But I don't think it's the TV mute icon as when the mute button on the TV is press, a mute icon on the TV will appear on the lower right side of the screen
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Then it's the mute icon from whichever device that input is on. Like the Astro box.

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Then it's the mute icon from whichever device that input is on. Like the Astro box.
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Got my u7g yesterday. Don't know how to review but from my inexperienced eyes, this tv really great. Its way better than my 5 years old full hd tv (also hisense).
Can't comment much on the image quality compare to other 4k tv since this is my 1st 4k tv. Vidaa os is ok and pretty smooth. I don't like that I can't remove preinstall apps. Too much useless apps for me. If someone know how yo remove the apps, please comment.
For gaming, this tv also support vrr and dolby vision for gaming. I'm using xbox series s.

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Got my u7g yesterday. Don't know how to review but from my inexperienced eyes, this tv really great. Its way better than my 5 years old full hd tv (also hisense).
Can't comment much on the image quality compare to other 4k tv since this is my 1st 4k tv. Vidaa os is ok and pretty smooth. I don't like that I can't remove preinstall apps. Too much useless apps for me. If someone know how yo remove the apps, please comment.
For gaming, this tv also support vrr and dolby vision for gaming. I'm using xbox series s.
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Just check or compare the black level and if it is as black as charcoal or thereabout , then it is very good. Check the upper and lower black bar blooming also and LCD sure to have this , but if on rare occasion only , then it is good enough.

It is a VA panel with good contrast and plus Quantum dot colors , sure to pop. If the standard brightness setting burn your eyes , all is good.


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Got my u7g yesterday. Don't know how to review but from my inexperienced eyes, this tv really great. Its way better than my 5 years old full hd tv (also hisense).
8 days. I don't know if I could wait that long. I'm glad you are enjoying the TV.

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I don't like that I can't remove preinstall apps. Too much useless apps for me. If someone know how yo remove the apps, please comment.
Have you tried pressing and holding the enter button on the app you want to uninstall? Though usually bloatware is often cannot be removed. Are there VIDAA apps worth installing though? Like Disney + Hotstar?

If you want to get an Android box, get ones that are Netflix certified.

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For gaming, this tv also support vrr and dolby vision for gaming. I'm using xbox series s.
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Why Series S though?

I'm hoping Sony will update the PS5 with Dolby Vision for 4K BD and gaming. It's just weird that they haven't given it that feature already.
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8 days. I don't know if I could wait that long. I'm glad you are enjoying the TV.

Have you tried pressing and holding the enter button on the app you want to uninstall? Though usually bloatware is often cannot be removed. Are there VIDAA apps worth installing though? Like Disney + Hotstar?

If you want to get an Android box, get ones that are Netflix certified.

Why Series S though?

I'm hoping Sony will update the PS5 with Dolby Vision for 4K BD and gaming. It's just weird that they haven't given it that feature already.
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Holding the button only allow me to sort the icon. In the setting, only netflix and prime video can be disable.
Sadly, no Disney+ Hotstar.
I already own the series s since january. Its good enough for me. I bought the tv mainly for the 4k and hdr movie viewing, gaming is secondry.
I'm planning on getting the chromecast with google tv in the future
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Holding the button only allow me to sort the icon. In the setting, only netflix and prime video can be disable.
Sadly, no Disney+ Hotstar.
Hisense and their VIDAA. At least give us an option to "upgrade" to Android.

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I'm planning on getting the chromecast with google tv in the future
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Look into the Tivo Stream 4K specifically for it's Dolby Vision capability and HD audio playback. You can get one for about RM220.
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Whats the difference between game mode and allm?
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A smart version of Game Mode. At least according to Trusted Reviews.

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The good thing about ALLM is that as soon as you move to an application or another input that isn’t gaming related, it will automatically bring the TV out of its game mode and put it into its standard mode, or whatever picture mode was previously assigned to that input/source.

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Does anyone know whether 43A4000G & 40A5200F support HDMI ARC?
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The A4000G back.
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Can't find information on the A5200F.

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The A4000G back.

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Holding the button only allow me to sort the icon. In the setting, only netflix and prime video can be disable.
Sadly, no Disney+ Hotstar.
I already own the series s since january. Its good enough for me. I bought the tv mainly for the 4k and hdr movie viewing, gaming is secondry.
I'm planning on getting the chromecast with google tv in the future
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did you try install apk on it? since vidaa is based on Android
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did you try install apk on it? since vidaa is based on android
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bro, did u manage to side load apk? I'm thinking of getting the u7G as well.. So far display and audio all good? Any complains?
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bro, did u manage to side load apk? I'm thinking of getting the u7G as well.. So far display and audio all good? Any complains?
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Never try to side load because after doing some searching, a lots of people said can't side load on vidaa.
For the display, its really great for my eyes because this is my 1st 4k hdr tv.
The audio is typical tv speaker, not that great.
If you really need to use android tv and don't plan on buying tv box, better find other tv. The apps is really limited. No disney+hotstar.


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Finally pulled trigger on Hisense A6100G - 58inch.. Old TV was a Samsung Plasma 51 inch.. Purchased for RM2399 at SenHeng with 3+1 warranty.. From my view.. Vidaa OS ain't that bad.. Pretty intuitive moving around the TV home screen.. Tested 1080p movie via pendrive and the upscaler was good.. Picture looked sharp.. 👌👍

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QUOTE(arvind13 @ Nov 25 2021, 05:14 PM)
Finally pulled trigger on Hisense A6100G - 58inch.. Old TV was a Samsung Plasma 51 inch..  Purchased for RM2399 at SenHeng with 3+1 warranty.. From my view.. Vidaa OS ain't that bad.. Pretty intuitive moving around the TV home screen..  Tested 1080p movie via pendrive and the upscaler was good..  Picture looked sharp..  👌👍
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Just got the 65" A6100G as well for rm2887 from Harvey Norman. Pretty good panel for the price and size, it's better than those IPS panel from comparable LG and Samsung lower end screen in term of deep black, uniformity and contrast. 4k hdr looks pretty decent too with some tweaking.

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Sigh...I remember seeing 55" U7G for RM2500 on shopee the other day, and now that I have the money it's gone. Any other comparable model for the same price range?
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QUOTE(arvind13 @ Nov 25 2021, 05:14 PM)
Finally pulled trigger on Hisense A6100G - 58inch.. Old TV was a Samsung Plasma 51 inch..  Purchased for RM2399 at SenHeng with 3+1 warranty.. From my view.. Vidaa OS ain't that bad.. Pretty intuitive moving around the TV home screen..  Tested 1080p movie via pendrive and the upscaler was good..  Picture looked sharp..  👌👍
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Just got the 65" A6100G as well for rm2887 from Harvey Norman. Pretty good panel for the price and size, it's better than those IPS panel from comparable LG and Samsung lower end screen in term of deep black, uniformity and contrast. 4k hdr looks pretty decent too with some tweaking.
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If you guys can live without dolby vision on Netflix and Disney+ I supposed it's OK although most new movies and series are in DV
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Just got the 65" A6100G as well for rm2887 from Harvey Norman. Pretty good panel for the price and size, it's better than those IPS panel from comparable LG and Samsung lower end screen in term of deep black, uniformity and contrast. 4k hdr looks pretty decent too with some tweaking.
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I thought this price can get the older version A7400F which came with Dolby Vision.
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Hi guys, bought the u800qf few months or has it been half a year already? Before I'm finally able to have it in use.

I've been trying to link it to Google home without much luck.

Can anyone advise?

Normally the workflow is something like this.

1) Device connects to the manufacturer's smart app.
2) The manufacturer smart app can be added via Works with Google. (I managed to setup my cctv, aircond in such a way)
3) Ok google can then control those devices with limited features.

1 and 2 I have already done and I can control the U800QF via the Vidaa TV app, but Vidaa TV is not available from the Works with Google list....

Anyone have some idea on this? Thanks
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Ahh... Pesky setup stage..
When you select Malaysia as your location, voice control is disabled...

I have selected my TV country as Australia and I was able to activate the Vidaa Voice app.

I'm able to do ok google, switch to hdmi1 etc...

However, I'm still not able to do
Play 'cctv' on living tv command in my Google home.
Anyone managed to get this working with Vidaa Voice?

I take it that google will stream my cctv to the Vidaa TV.. but do I need to select a specific input for it to work? I tried the two screen sharing/Miracast related input but the cctv doesn't stream into the tv sad.gif

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Hi guys, bought the u800qf few months or has it been half a year already? Before I'm finally able to have it in use.

I've been trying to link it to Google home without much luck.

Can anyone advise?

Normally the workflow is something like this.

1) Device connects to the manufacturer's smart app.
2) The manufacturer smart app can be added via Works with Google. (I managed to setup my cctv, aircond in such a way)
3) Ok google can then control those devices with limited features.

1 and 2 I have already done and I can control the U800QF via the Vidaa TV app, but Vidaa TV is not available from the Works with Google list....

Anyone have some idea on this? Thanks
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yesterday check with hisense malaysia, malaysia model mostly no 120hz. dont get wrong unit.

only model with 120hz is U900KF
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yesterday check with hisense malaysia, malaysia model mostly no 120hz. dont get wrong unit.

only model with 120hz is U900KF
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Correct. Hisense International's decision making about 120Hz and HDMI 2.1 decision for international units is stupid. But what can you do.

On the other hand, 120Hz is not really necessary. 60Hz panels that can handle 24 fps have been around since the early days of 720p LCD TVs, which is some 15 years ago. 120Hz panel makes the process of smoothing the judder a little easier. Basically, the world didn't go blind or mad with 60Hz panels.

Gamers who play competitively online know that, at least with current GPU/CPU capability, they can't have the 120Hz 4K experience with all the texture details. 120Hz in 4K with low details, that's possible. It's like gaming in 720p vs 1080p in 2006.

Meanwhile, at CES 2022 Hisense announced some interesting stuff. The new TV models won't arrive until May or June this year. If Hisense International is predictable, only North America will get the best models with the best tech and the best prices.

URL=https://shopee.com.my/Hisense-55-65-4K-UHD-ULED-Smart-TV-(U7G-Series)-i.26899469.10067959502]Anyway, this Shopee seller based in Seremban is selling the 65" U7G for RM3,900.[/URL] Best deal for this size so far.
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Hi there - Hisense A6500G is android tv and you are saying it does not have Disney+ ? Is that correct?
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Hi there - Hisense A6500G is android tv and you are saying it does not have Disney+ ? Is that correct?
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You quoted me talking about the A6100G. Check Hisense Malaysia's own webpage on that.

As for A6500G, then Hisense confused itself. On this page, it lists the A6500G has Dolby Vision. But when you go to the actual A6500G page, it says it doesn't.

This problem seems not to be isolated. Hisense Thailand lists the A6500G as having Local Dimming. But the Thai manual does say the A6500G has Dolby Vision based on the Dolby logos at the end of the manual.

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You quoted me talking about the A6100G. Check Hisense Malaysia's own webpage on that.

As for A6500G, then Hisense confused itself. On this page, it lists the A6500G has Dolby Vision. But when you go to the actual A6500G page, it says it doesn't.

This problem seems not to be isolated. Hisense Thailand lists the A6500G as having Local Dimming. But the Thai manual does say the A6500G has Dolby Vision based on the Dolby logos at the end of the manual.
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Ah, sorry about that. A6500G runs android 9.0 therefore should have disney +. Or so I hope.
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Ah, sorry about that. A6500G runs android 9.0 therefore should have disney +. Or so I hope.
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TVs using Android OS can install Disney+ Hotstar and/or Disney+. You just have to use your Google account to set it up.
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Thanks for the feedback.

Do you have any experience in using the aforementioned a6500G Hisense model? I've not been able to find much info. It will be mostly used for Astro and I am wondering how well it will upscale SD content.
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Do you have any experience in using the aforementioned a6500G Hisense model? I've not been able to find much info. It will be mostly used for Astro and I am wondering how well it will upscale SD content.
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I don't have any experience with the A6500G.

It's 2022. LCD TVs have been around for over 20 years. TVs from the last 10 years would not screw up upscaling standard definition content. Whatever deficiencies you see in the image is the result of them being in standard definition. The lack of detail and color is still going to be there, just made bigger with the bigger screen. If you want to have an idea of what that looks like, just watch any music videos from the 90s that are not remastered to 1080p or 4K.

For example, Freedom 90 by George Michael. Shot on 35mm by David Fincher.


This version is mastered in standard definition at 480p. Betacam was the best they could do at the time to get it to cable and broadcast TV.


This version is mastered from the original 35mm neg to 4K. I'm sure they scanned it at higher than 4K and then printed the final video back to 35mm for archival purposes.

So don't worry too much about standard definition content on 4K TVs.

You said it in another thread that you want a TV to give to your mother-in-law. Most probably she won't notice much differences. Only you would be maybe notice it. If she actually can differentiate between OLED, QLED, local dimming and micro dimming, then you shouldn't be looking to buy her the A6500G.


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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 18 2022, 12:09 PM)
I don't have any experience with the A6500G.

It's 2022. LCD TVs have been around for over 20 years. TVs from the last 10 years would not screw up upscaling standard definition content. Whatever deficiencies you see in the image is the result of them being in standard definition. The lack of detail and color is still going to be there, just made bigger with the bigger screen. If you want to have an idea of what that looks like, just watch any music videos from the 90s that are not remastered to 1080p or 4K.

For example, Freedom 90 by George Michael. Shot on 35mm by David Fincher.


This version is mastered in standard definition at 480p. Betacam was the best they could do at the time to get it to cable and broadcast TV.


This version is mastered from the original 35mm neg to 4K. I'm sure they scanned it at higher than 4K and then printed the final video back to 35mm for archival purposes.

So don't worry too much about standard definition content on 4K TVs.

You said it in another thread that you want a TV to give to your mother-in-law. Most probably she won't notice much differences. Only you would be maybe notice it. If she actually can differentiate between OLED, QLED, local dimming and micro dimming, then you shouldn't be looking to buy her the A6500G.
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So to be fair, i know diff TV's use diff chips which upscale the content different / better. So just want to get the right model that upscales well or best.
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So to be fair, i know diff TV's use diff chips which upscale the content different / better. So just want to get the right model that upscales well or best.
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With the A6500G, you're not going to get the best because it's an entry level model. This is true if you buy from Hisense or Samsung. The better the processing, the higher the model in their range and the higher the price.

Upscaling is not just about the chip. It's all the related software that goes into processing the image. Different manufacturers have different ways of making it work.

RTings.com has published an article about upscaling tests they have conducted. You can see how each TV performs and how the higher their performance is, the higher level their product number and the bigger the price.The A6500G is not there obviously because RTings is in Canada. The closest in spec terms is the A6G.

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With the A6500G, you're not going to get the best because it's an entry level model. This is true if you buy from Hisense or Samsung. The better the processing, the higher the model in their range and the higher the price.

Upscaling is not just about the chip. It's all the related software that goes into processing the image. Different manufacturers have different ways of making it work.

RTings.com has published an article about upscaling tests they have conducted. You can see how each TV performs and how the higher their performance is, the higher level their product number and the bigger the price.The A6500G is not there obviously because RTings is in Canada. The closest in spec terms is the A6G.
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So after much deliberation, I opted for an LG. Reason is my mum in law is sceptical of unknown brands. However, thanks so much for the info.

I however am thinking of the A6500G 65 inch s it's going for 3.2k. Quite a steal for that size and features.

My heart however wants something more.....monster....hahaha.....LG C1
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My heart however wants something more.....monster....hahaha.....LG C1
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If you can afford it, go for it.

You can get a 65" U7G for RM3900. So go for that instead of the A6500G.

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If you can afford it, go for it.

You can get a 65" U7G for RM3900. So go for that instead of the A6500G.
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unfortunately its not an android os
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You can get a Tivo Stream 4K for RM210. The total cost is still cheaper than any other 65" FALD Android TVs.
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You can get a Tivo Stream 4K for RM210. The total cost is still cheaper than any other 65" FALD Android TVs.
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Hey, very good point! However since I plug it in to the box, do I loose some of the features of the main tv? like all the software features?
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Hey, very good point! However since I plug it in to the box, do I loose some of the features of the main tv? like all the software features?
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What software features specifically? On the TV or on the Tivo?

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What software features specifically? On the TV or on the Tivo?
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The TV
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On any input, including OTA broadcast, the TV would still work as it should. HDR, Dolby Vision, local dimming, audio would still work as it should.

This is no different if you plug in a different PC to the same PC monitor. It'll work as it should.

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Any real-life reviews of the MY/SEA version of 65U7G?

The current price point of RM 3,900 is quite near the Sony X85J of RM 4,300. Considering either 2 of these models or whether to splurge more for the Sony X90J (RM 5,900)

Saw this review on YouTube which was quite positive (although may be sponsored)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdiUXc4fpo...nnel=AdamLoboTV

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Any real-life reviews of the MY/SEA version of 65U7G?

The current price point of RM 3,900 is quite near the Sony X85J of RM 4,300. Considering either 2 of these models or whether to splurge more for the Sony X90J (RM 5,900)

Saw this review on YouTube which was quite positive (although may be sponsored)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdiUXc4fpo...nnel=AdamLoboTV
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Incremental increases in price always lead back to.....going for the best one. LG A1 65 inch is going for 7k+.
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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 19 2022, 06:52 PM)
So after much deliberation, I opted for an LG. Reason is my mum in law is sceptical of unknown brands.  However, thanks so much for the info.

I however am thinking of the A6500G 65 inch s it's going for 3.2k. Quite a steal for that size and features.

My heart however wants something more.....monster....hahaha.....LG C1
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No... did TV price went back up? I think this model similar to my 2020 A7400F which I got for RM2.5K. Dolby Vision, Android TV9, MEMC.

I think A6500G also can get below RM3k if you are patient enough.

QUOTE(Iylia @ Jan 21 2022, 03:41 PM)
Any real-life reviews of the MY/SEA version of 65U7G?

The current price point of RM 3,900 is quite near the Sony X85J of RM 4,300. Considering either 2 of these models or whether to splurge more for the Sony X90J (RM 5,900)

Saw this review on YouTube which was quite positive (although may be sponsored)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdiUXc4fpo...nnel=AdamLoboTV
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No... dont compare them together.

SEA U7G is not the same as those in US, ours dont have 120Hz. If you dont mind 120Hz, then the choice is yours. You should buy last month when I shared the 12.12 Lazada deal for X90J. Bought one for RM5k with free tv bracket.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jan 21 2022, 05:05 PM)
No... did TV price went back up? I think this model similar to my 2020 A7400F which I got for RM2.5K. Dolby Vision, Android TV9, MEMC.
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I'm wondering, have you had any OTA update since purchased? None for my unit. Keep sending PMs on Twitter & FB without any positive reply. Only in MY we don't get OTAs. I wonder why?
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I'm wondering, have you had any OTA update since purchased? None for my unit. Keep sending PMs on Twitter & FB without any positive reply. Only in MY we don't get OTAs. I wonder why?
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Nope, no OTA. I dont really mind since mostly security update. I dont see any difference to my recently purchased X90J with Google TV.
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Nope, no OTA. I dont really mind since mostly security update. I dont see any difference to my recently purchased X90J with Google TV.
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I think security updates is quite important since it's connected to LAN 24/7. Also hoping OTA will have bug fixes for WiFi 5/6 as I still cannot connect to.
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Saw this review on YouTube which was quite positive (although may be sponsored)

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Maybe not sponsored but "heavily influenced". Noticed the "about Hisense" section on that video. Sponsored videos can't be monetized by the YouTuber. Maybe some money changed hands. Maybe not. Reading the comments section, I don't think Adam Lobo realized that the U7G North America is different from the rest of the world

LCDTVThailand review video had a similar section. But his review is far more extensive with a bit more scientific data put in.

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From this thread.

QUOTE(faizdtk @ Sep 29 2021, 10:00 AM)
Got my u7g yesterday. Don't know how to review but from my inexperienced eyes, this tv really great. Its way better than my 5 years old full hd tv (also hisense).
Can't comment much on the image quality compare to other 4k tv since this is my 1st 4k tv. Vidaa os is ok and pretty smooth. I don't like that I can't remove preinstall apps. Too much useless apps for me. If someone know how yo remove the apps, please comment.
For gaming, this tv also support vrr and dolby vision for gaming. I'm using xbox series s.
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This guy sold his 55 U7G because he wanted a 65" TV. Didn't disclose what 65" TV he bought in replacement.
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I think it is bangs for your hard earned bucks. Dolby Vision-Atmos, HDR10, Full Array, Local Dimming at this price is a bargain. The only thing that is wrong for me is the size as I'm looking for the 65" or higher.
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This guy bought the U800QF, which is the higher up model before the U7G. The U800QF is too similar to the U8G (Thai model) to not be considered a shameless name change by Hisense. I included his review here because of the similarities in specs to the U8G Thailand model.

QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Sep 8 2021, 02:28 PM)
Hello. TV was delivered yday evening and I have set it up on my TV console (Ikea Besta with Ikea Uppleva mount). Some first impressions :

1) 65-inch is incredibly big! Viewing distance is about 2.5 meters. Will take some time to get used to, but it's nice to be this immersed into the content. Context, I was coming from a basic LG 43-inch Full HD TV from 2016. This is a massive step up in size and everything else.

2) IT LOOKS AWESOME! I mean, I might not have the sharpest eyes to detect blooming, ghosting, motion blurs and all that. I'm also not the kind of person to throw up a bunch of test videos on this TV to find its flaws. I plugged it in, and straight away started to enjoy my usual content on Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. It's an incredibly enjoyable experience IMO.

3) HDR content really pops! The screen gets really bright to the point that gun muzzle flashes (sp?) and things like lightning get shockingly bright. Never having had a HDR TV before, I don't have anything to compare to. Regardless, I'm impressed by the dynamic range it is able to display in the shadows and highlights.

4) Full-array local dimming is great. I've been watching Night on Earth (Netflix) a lot, and the effect is just stunning, even with the subtitles on. Shots with the lit moon on one half of the screen and complete darkness on the other blows my mind away. Even when subtitles are on, I have not noticed issues with blooming around the text, at least not to my untrained eyes. The black levels really impress me, and I'm not sure it gets much better than this other than going full OLED.

5) Motion is a bit iffy with some settings. With smooth motion disabled, motion is quite juddery and stuttery. I also notice it sometimes struggling a bit with dark areas. I have played around with it, and so far am settling with the 'Film' setting, and it seems to have fixed those issues. 'Smooth' is a bit too buttery and Soap Opera for me, and I don't like it (maybe later for football or F1), but definitely not movies and shows. I will continue to experiment with this, but so far I am happy with 'Film'.

6) Speakers are okay, better than most TVs, but definitely more garbage than any average sound bar. Doesn't matter to me, I don't use the TV speakers at all other than the initial testing while the TV was set on the floor.
Overall, I am really surprisingly impressed by this TV. It looked great in the store, but I feel it looks even better at home. Even watching 1080p content is really enjoyable (mind you, I am using the upscaling from my nVidia Shield Pro 2019, so it might just be the Shield's excellent upscaling). For the price I paid, I am really happy with it. No TV is perfect, and this one certainly is not either, but the price-to-performance ratio hits the sweet spot for me smile.gif
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Interestingly, Hisense just launched in Singapore. Their U7G promo video was released on YouTube two weeks ago. Price wise, their MSRP is the same as the discount price of Hisense Malaysia's official store on Shopee. Perhaps due to being late to market as compared to Thailand and Malaysia, Hisense SG is offering a 3-month Netflix subscription and an antenna.



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Correct. Hisense International's decision making about 120Hz and HDMI 2.1 decision for international units is stupid. But what can you do.

On the other hand, 120Hz is not really necessary. 60Hz panels that can handle 24 fps have been around since the early days of 720p LCD TVs, which is some 15 years ago. 120Hz panel makes the process of smoothing the judder a little easier. Basically, the world didn't go blind or mad with 60Hz panels.

Gamers who play competitively online know that, at least with current GPU/CPU capability, they can't have the 120Hz 4K experience with all the texture details. 120Hz in 4K with low details, that's possible. It's like gaming in 720p vs 1080p in 2006.

Meanwhile, at CES 2022 Hisense announced some interesting stuff. The new TV models won't arrive until May or June this year.  If Hisense International is predictable, only North America will get the best models with the best tech and the best prices.
Hi. I just created this account to ask you about Hisense U7G. I'm aware that MY model is not the same as US model hence no HDMI 2.1. However, I did email Hisense some questions. Here are the answers:
2) Local Dimming of U7G

65" (90 Zones)

55" (72 Zones)


3) Image Refresh Frequency is 60Hz. Malaysia U7G don’t have HDMI 2.1. but can support 4K @ 60Hz, MEMC can boost until 120Hz smooth motion rate. For game mode U7G can support 60Hz as it comes with VRR and ALLM

My question is. Would I be able to play games on my PS5 that support 120fps with upscaling despite the lack of HDMI 2.1 and 120hz panel? I don't really understand the MEMC part with 120Hz smooth motion rate.
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Would I be able to play games on my PS5 that support 120fps with upscaling despite the lack of HDMI 2.1 and 120hz panel? I don't really understand the MEMC part with 120Hz smooth motion rate.
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Nope. You can't play at 120Hz at 4K. This is a similar situation back in 2006 with PS3 displaying games at 720p and upconverted them to 10800p while the PC version displays it natively at 1080p. Except that most games on PCs can't do 120Hz in 4K and show high level of details and apply ray tracing anyway. If you intend to play competitively at 120Hz, get a 120Hz monitor.

MEMC stands for Motion Estimation, Motion Compensation. Most TV are shot in 24, 25 or 30 fps. Most films are shot in 24 fps. The U7G, and probably most other mid- and low-end TVs, have native 60Hz panels. MEMC creates frames in between the gaps of 24 fps into 60fps. They are not actual frames from the original content, just an estimation and compensation. The MEMC chip can create fake frames at 120Hz but the U7G panel can only display half of them.

You do not want to enable MEMC if you want to play well on the PS5 as it creates lag. Creating fake frames is not the fastest operation. Best set the U7G in Game Mode and ALLM, and play at 60Hz.





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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 23 2022, 12:14 AM)
Nope. You can't play at 120Hz at 4K. This is a similar situation back in 2006 with PS3 displaying games at 720p and upconverted them to 10800p while the PC version displays it natively at 1080p. Except that most games on PCs can't do 120Hz in 4K and show high level of details and apply ray tracing anyway. If you intend to play competitively at 120Hz, get a 120Hz monitor.

MEMC stands for Motion Estimation, Motion Compensation. Most TV are shot in 24, 25 or 30 fps. Most films are shot in 24 fps. The U7G, and probably most other mid- and low-end TVs, have native 60Hz panels. MEMC creates frames in between the gaps of 24 fps into 60fps. They are not actual frames from the original content, just an estimation and compensation. The MEMC chip can create fake frames at 120Hz but the U7G panel can only display half of them.

You do not want to enable MEMC if you want to play well on the PS5 as it creates lag. Creating fake frames is not the fastest operation. Best set the U7G in Game Mode and ALLM, and play at 60Hz.
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I see. Many thanks for your answer. I don't multiplayer games much, more of a singleplayer + couch coop with my wife. I just want to see if I able to play Doom on my PS5 with 120fps with the tv. So no MEMC for gaming, only for watching movie got it.

Also, would you prefer Sony X90J over Hisense U7G? I'm contemplating these two. Although the Sony X90J has no VRR atm, at least it has HDMI 2.1 and better colour out of the box right? I'm worried about colour calibarting the U7G as I'm not really an expert in these things.
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I see. Many thanks for your answer. I don't multiplayer games much, more of a singleplayer + couch coop with my wife. I just want to see if I able to play Doom on my PS5 with 120fps with the tv. So no MEMC for gaming, only for watching movie got it.
Couch coop TV requirement is to get the biggest TV within your budget. PS5 Doom in 120 fps would be nice but not with the U7G, at least the international version.

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Also, would you prefer Sony X90J over Hisense U7G? I'm contemplating these two. Although the Sony X90J has no VRR atm, at least it has HDMI 2.1 and better colour out of the box right? I'm worried about colour calibarting the U7G as I'm not really an expert in these things.
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If you have the budget for a 65" X90J, then go for that.

Hisense 2021 lineup is not for the high-end 4K market. They left that to go with 8K TVs and I don't know if that strategy is working for them. The U7G is for the mid-end market, for people who want quantum dot, FALD panels but not pay through the nose for it.

Many professional reviewers have said that X90J have better color accuracy out of the box. For average users, they won't know the difference. Most TVs sold at retail, including the big brands, are set at the Dynamic mode as their retail mode. Most users who set their TVs at home seem to prefer the garish dynamic look.

The X90J has better color accuracy. It doesn't have the quantum dot filter, which means it doesn't have a wider color gamut, for forever. You can't retrofit the quantum dot filter to it. The U7G has WCG out of the box. You can get the U7G professionally calibrated but...

Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months. If professional equipment needs recalibrating, consumer grade equipment needs them too.

So what does this all mean? If you label yourself as demanding color accuracy, you need to tinker with your TV. Get a colorimeter - they usually come with the proper software -, find out your TV's secret menu and calibrate according to the schedule. If you are just an average user, you can use the AVS HD 709 videos and a blue filter to calibrate your TV.

If you just care about brands and models, then a mid-end Chinese brand is definitely not for you.


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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 23 2022, 03:48 PM)
Couch coop TV requirement is to get the biggest TV within your budget. PS5 Doom in 120 fps would be nice but not with the U7G, at least the international version.

If you have the budget for a 65" X90J, then go for that.

Hisense 2021 lineup is not for the high-end 4K market. They left that to go with 8K TVs and I don't know if that strategy is working for them. The U7G is for the mid-end market, for people who want quantum dot, FALD panels but not pay through the nose for it.

Many professional reviewers have said that X90J have better color accuracy out of the box. For average users, they won't know the difference. Most TVs sold at retail, including the big brands, are set at the Dynamic mode as their retail mode. Most users who set their TVs at home seem to prefer the garish dynamic look.

The X90J has better color accuracy. It doesn't have the quantum dot filter, which means it doesn't have a wider color gamut, for forever. You can't retrofit the quantum dot filter to it. The U7G has WCG out of the box. You can get the U7G professionally calibrated but...

Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months. If  professional equipment needs recalibrating, consumer grade equipment needs them too.

So what does this all mean? If you label yourself as demanding color accuracy, you need to tinker with your TV. Get a colorimeter - they usually come with the proper software -, find out your TV's secret menu and calibrate according to the schedule. If you are just an average user, you can use the AVS HD 709 videos and a blue filter to calibrate your TV.

If you just care about brands and models, then a mid-end Chinese brand is definitely not for you.
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Writesimply, you really know your stuff! Do you work in the A/V industry or have a pro HT set up at home?
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Writesimply, you really know your stuff! Do you work in the A/V industry or have a pro HT set up at home?
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Just a hobbyist in the content creation industry. No and no.

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Couch coop TV requirement is to get the biggest TV within your budget. PS5 Doom in 120 fps would be nice but not with the U7G, at least the international version.

If you have the budget for a 65" X90J, then go for that.

Hisense 2021 lineup is not for the high-end 4K market. They left that to go with 8K TVs and I don't know if that strategy is working for them. The U7G is for the mid-end market, for people who want quantum dot, FALD panels but not pay through the nose for it.

Many professional reviewers have said that X90J have better color accuracy out of the box. For average users, they won't know the difference. Most TVs sold at retail, including the big brands, are set at the Dynamic mode as their retail mode. Most users who set their TVs at home seem to prefer the garish dynamic look.

The X90J has better color accuracy. It doesn't have the quantum dot filter, which means it doesn't have a wider color gamut, for forever. You can't retrofit the quantum dot filter to it. The U7G has WCG out of the box. You can get the U7G professionally calibrated but...

Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months. If  professional equipment needs recalibrating, consumer grade equipment needs them too.

So what does this all mean? If you label yourself as demanding color accuracy, you need to tinker with your TV. Get a colorimeter - they usually come with the proper software -, find out your TV's secret menu and calibrate according to the schedule. If you are just an average user, you can use the AVS HD 709 videos and a blue filter to calibrate your TV.

If you just care about brands and models, then a mid-end Chinese brand is definitely not for you.
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Thanks a lot, man. I just pulled a trigger with 55" Samsung QN90A at a hefty discount. I heard that all of the models are using IPS in MY but I guess this is probably the best one I can get with my budget. Hope for no buyer's remorse.
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Thanks a lot, man. I just pulled a trigger with 55" Samsung QN90A at a hefty discount. I heard that all of the models are using IPS in MY but I guess this is probably the best one I can get with my budget. Hope for no buyer's remorse.
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any recommended HK drama app and live tv channel app on hisense TV?

some popular app like rss player etc is not suitable with hisense tv.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 23 2022, 03:48 PM)
Couch coop TV requirement is to get the biggest TV within your budget. PS5 Doom in 120 fps would be nice but not with the U7G, at least the international version.

If you have the budget for a 65" X90J, then go for that.

Hisense 2021 lineup is not for the high-end 4K market. They left that to go with 8K TVs and I don't know if that strategy is working for them. The U7G is for the mid-end market, for people who want quantum dot, FALD panels but not pay through the nose for it.

Many professional reviewers have said that X90J have better color accuracy out of the box. For average users, they won't know the difference. Most TVs sold at retail, including the big brands, are set at the Dynamic mode as their retail mode. Most users who set their TVs at home seem to prefer the garish dynamic look.

The X90J has better color accuracy. It doesn't have the quantum dot filter, which means it doesn't have a wider color gamut, for forever. You can't retrofit the quantum dot filter to it. The U7G has WCG out of the box. You can get the U7G professionally calibrated but...

Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months. If  professional equipment needs recalibrating, consumer grade equipment needs them too.

So what does this all mean? If you label yourself as demanding color accuracy, you need to tinker with your TV. Get a colorimeter - they usually come with the proper software -, find out your TV's secret menu and calibrate according to the schedule. If you are just an average user, you can use the AVS HD 709 videos and a blue filter to calibrate your TV.

If you just care about brands and models, then a mid-end Chinese brand is definitely not for you.
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Hi ,may I ask u if between this few model which is more suitable to pair with PS5? My max budget is 4.5k for 65"

SONY X80J, X85J , Hisense U7G

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Hi ,may I ask u if between this few model which is more suitable to pair with PS5? My max budget is 4.5k for 65"
SONY X80J, X85J , Hisense U7G
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U7G - FALD with 60Hz VA panel
X85 - non-FALD 120Hz VA panel
X80 - non-FALD 60Hz IPS panel

Look at RTing's comparison of X80 and X85.

If you're going to game a lot, like 80% of the time, I suppose the X85 for the 120Hz panel. No game, PC or console, will have enough GPU power - as of 2022 - to give you high-res texture and ray-tracing that you would get when gaming at 1080p/1440p at 120Hz.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Feb 23 2022, 11:42 AM)
U7G - FALD with 60Hz VA panel
X85 - non-FALD 120Hz VA panel
X80 - non-FALD 60Hz IPS panel

Look at RTing's comparison of X80 and X85.

If you're going to game a lot, like 80% of the time, I suppose the X85 for the 120Hz panel. No game, PC or console, will have enough GPU power - as of 2022 - to give you high-res texture and ray-tracing that you would get when gaming at 1080p/1440p at 120Hz.
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I think gaming maybe around 20%-30% of the time only. Most of the time will be drama/YouTube and movie once a week sometimes no.

Beside these model any comment on TCL C725?

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I think gaming maybe around  20%-30% of the time only. Most of the time will be drama/YouTube and movie once a week sometimes no.
Well since this is the Hisense thread... You may want to look into the U7G for its FALD feature and Quantum dot. Just make sure you have another Android device so that you can watch Disney+Hotstar, Apple TV and Amazon Prime. I don't know if the VIDAA store has them yet.

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You can ask in the TCL thread. But I think the C725 is like the X80 - no FALD and 60Hz panel. The C725 has Quantum dot for a wider color gamut.

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Any other Hisense 65A7400F user in here having the same issue as mine?
Some images while playing fast-action videos is lagging. Quite badly I say

And it happens all the time, using the built-in Android and even PC connected to the screen

Also, why is the built-in Android in the A7400F displaying at 1080P instead of 4K?
I can only utilize 4K when there's another device connected to the TV through HDMI (PC/External Android Box/PS5)

Bought mine in 2021. If I'm the only 1 having this issue, I still have some time to RMA it

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 30 2021, 08:58 AM)
Turning MEMC OFF is better than having it on when watching anime which would introduce artifacts
Do you see the artifacts only when watching animes or other fast-moving videos too?
Haven't tried disabling the MEMC, will try it when I get home

The artifacts are really annoying vmad.gif

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Feb 23 2022, 11:42 AM)
No game, PC or console, will have enough GPU power - as of 2022 - to give you high-res texture and ray-tracing that you would get when gaming at 1080p/1440p at 120Hz.

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Nope. You can't play at 120Hz at 4K. This is a similar situation back in 2006 with PS3 displaying games at 720p and upconverted them to 10800p while the PC version displays it natively at 1080p. Except that most games on PCs can't do 120Hz in 4K and show high level of details and apply ray tracing anyway. If you intend to play competitively at 120Hz, get a 120Hz monitor.


Hello DLSS ?

Looks like someone is a little out of touch with the Gaming industry too thesedays . Not that he was " up to date " with the TV's one to begin with .



QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 23 2022, 03:48 PM)
Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. 

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You are no calibrator obviously , why are you speaking for the party now ?

They don't know because there is no such rule .

Calibrating TV is not the same as mastering a movie in a grading suite .
If you are doing it for a living , it is your job to calibrate the TV to match the lighting environment of your client , be it a Bright or Dim room , not the other way around .


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In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months.


No , because if that was the case Disney would have re-mastered all of their Star Wars movies again and again for millions of times .

I sincerely don't think you understand the work of Colorist vs Calibrator , while they share some knowledges in the industry their scope of work is entirely different.


Again , please do not speak on things you do not have any clue on . It is almost like a cult here .

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 23 2022, 06:01 PM)
Any other Hisense 65A7400F user in here having the same issue as mine?
Some images while playing fast-action videos is lagging. Quite badly I say

And it happens all the time, using the built-in Android and even PC connected to the screen

Also, why is the built-in Android in the A7400F displaying at 1080P instead of 4K?
I can only utilize 4K when there's another device connected to the TV through HDMI (PC/External Android Box/PS5)

Bought mine in 2021. If I'm the only 1 having this issue, I still have some time to RMA it

Do you see the artifacts only when watching animes or other fast-moving videos too?
Haven't tried disabling the MEMC, will try it when I get home

The artifacts are really annoying vmad.gif
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Are you referring to playing videos through external downloaded content through usb or network shared drive?

Artifacts when watching Astro?
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Are you referring to playing videos through external downloaded content through usb or network shared drive?

Artifacts when watching Astro?
Everything has some glitches or artifacts here & there
Videos I've played:
1. Movies, Animes & TV Shows played using KODI through network shared drive
2. Anything in Netflix
3. Anything in UniFi PlayTV

I don't have Astro & never will laugh.gif

But they only appeared during fast action scenes. Haven't tried turning off MEMC though as suggested by andrekua2

By the way, can you check if the built-in Android TV on your 65A7400F is also displaying only at 1080P instead of 4K?
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Everything has some glitches or artifacts here & there
Videos I've played:
1. Movies, Animes & TV Shows played using KODI through network shared drive
2. Anything in Netflix
3. Anything in UniFi PlayTV

I don't have Astro & never will laugh.gif

But they only appeared during fast action scenes. Haven't tried turning off MEMC though as suggested by andrekua2

By the way, can you check if the built-in Android TV on your 65A7400F is also displaying only at 1080P instead of 4K?
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If you're watching with subtitles, try turning it off.
Which picture preset are you using?

There are no options in settings to turn off memc.
Haven't turn on developer mode in you're wondering.

Built-in android tv meaning the built-in media player app?
Yes I can play 4k video files.
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If you're watching with subtitles, try turning it off.
Which picture preset are you using?
Subtitles or not, it's still the same
Don't remember the picture preset, will update later
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Built-in android tv meaning the built-in media player app?
Yes I can play 4k video files.
No. The Google Android TV itself
Having the ability to play 4K video files and the OS itself displaying at 4K is 2 different stuff
Even 1080P screen can play 4K videos too, it's just not displaying at 4K
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Subtitles or not, it's still the same
Don't remember the picture preset, will update later
No. The Google Android TV itself
Having the ability to play 4K video files and the OS itself displaying at 4K is 2 different stuff
Even 1080P screen can play 4K videos too, it's just not displaying at 4K
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The way you reply don't sound friendly
Good luck
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That was not my intention at all, you just misunderstood my reply
My apologies if you felt that way
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 23 2022, 09:31 PM)
No. The Google Android TV itself
Having the ability to play 4K video files and the OS itself displaying at 4K is 2 different stuff
Even 1080P screen can play 4K videos too, it's just not displaying at 4K
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If you are referring to OS UI then yes it is max at 1080p for Android/Google TV 11 and older but with Android TV 12 it will at 4K.
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By the way, can you check if the built-in Android TV on your 65A7400F is also displaying only at 1080P instead of 4K?
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Are you referring to the resolution on the homescreen? Is there a way to check it? It doesn't look 4K to me if I were to compare to my other tv, Sony x90j. I'm not surprised because it's half the price of what I paid for the Sony. The SoC used in the Hisense will be slightly inferior due to the costing alone.

Update:

Replied earlier without reading juzmafia response. It seems like everything is at 1080P even for the Sony then. I'm surprised because Google TV seems more refined than the Android TV9 based on the GUI interface alone. Therefore I thought it was using a higher resolution compared to Hisense.

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If you're watching with subtitles, try turning it off.
Which picture preset are you using?

There are no options in settings to turn off memc.
Haven't turn on developer mode in you're wondering.

Built-in android tv meaning the built-in media player app?
Yes I can play 4k video files.
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You can set the two setting for memc to 0 what. What you mean by you can't disable memc?

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 23 2022, 09:31 PM)
Subtitles or not, it's still the same
Don't remember the picture preset, will update later
No. The Google Android TV itself
Having the ability to play 4K video files and the OS itself displaying at 4K is 2 different stuff
Even 1080P screen can play 4K videos too, it's just not displaying at 4K
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Are you saying that it got stuck at 1080P even when you watch 4K in youtube or netflix app with the onboard android tv9? It doesn't explain the improved image quality when playing 4k vs 1080P then.

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Feb 24 2022, 12:18 AM)
If you are referring to OS UI then yes it is max at 1080p for Android/Google TV 11 and older but with Android TV 12 it will at 4K.
Ahh, that explains it
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Are you referring to the resolution on the homescreen? Is there a way to check it?
Yes. The resolution on the homescreen and the apps installed
Some apps like KODI has the capability of showing what resolution the OS is running
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Extra Note:
I'm not sure if my issue is artifacts or ghosting. Will try to capture some video with my phone then share it here later

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Extra Note:
I'm not sure if my issue is artifacts or ghosting. Will try to capture some video with my phone then share it here later
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Memc turned on?

Try setting both to zero. Personally I feel it's best to turn off aka 0 when watching anime whereby the actions kinda fast paced. For movies or drama, not so apparent since the movement is real.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 24 2022, 11:59 AM)
Memc turned on?
Will test it out later when I'm at home

Thank you for the suggestion 👍

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Will test it out later when I'm at home
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So what's the story morning glory?

In other news...
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From Bangkok Post about Hisense Thailand's press conference.

By the time the H series comes out sometime in August, we'll probably see a new Hisense 2022 thread. In the meanwhile, Malaysia-Thailand borders will open soon.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Feb 26 2022, 03:56 PM)
So what's the story morning glory?
andrekua2 was right. Turning off MEMC fixed the issue
Now no more ghosting/artifacts

Thanks bro thumbup.gif
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andrekua2 was right. Turning off MEMC fixed the issue
Now no more ghosting/artifacts

Thanks bro thumbup.gif
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Yeah. It also took me a while to find out. I even swapped out my gpu thinking it was the problem because my old plasma tv didn't have this problem. I think it was black frame insertion which causes artifacts especially when you have hairs being blown by wind scene. Turning off memc would get some stutter but that's a lot better than getting artifacts. I'm short of PSU, otherwise I would love to replay the same scene on my X90J to see if more expensive tv has better memc control.

However I only disable memc for anime. For everything else especially youtube, I did enable it because it felt smoother.

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andrekua2 was right. Turning off MEMC fixed the issue
Now no more ghosting/artifacts
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 27 2022, 08:21 AM)
Yeah. It also took me a while to find out. I even swapped out my gpu thinking it was the problem because my old plasma tv didn't have this problem. I think it was black frame insertion which causes artifacts especially when you have hairs being blown by wind scene. Turning off memc would get some stutter but that's a lot better than getting artifacts.
Most cartoons and anime are made at 24/25 fps but with only just 12 frames of movement, if at all. The stacatto-like movements and color shift are probably too much to process for an average MEMC SoC. If you see smooth, animated movements in anime, then there are more frames of being animated in that scene.

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Flagship TVs probably has a better spec SoC to handle MEMC. The SoC is probably AUD2-3 more than the average. The bulk of the BOM is the panel itself.

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 24 2022, 01:10 AM)
Are you referring to the resolution on the homescreen? Is there a way to check it? It doesn't look 4K to me if I were to compare to my other tv, Sony x90j. I'm not surprised because it's half the price of what I paid for the Sony. The SoC used in the Hisense will be slightly inferior due to the costing alone.

Update:

Replied earlier without reading juzmafia response. It seems like everything is at 1080P even for the Sony then. I'm surprised because Google TV seems more refined than the Android TV9 based on the GUI interface alone. Therefore I thought it was using a higher resolution compared to Hisense.
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Sorry, this may be out of topic. I have listed down between Sony X90J and Hisense U8G. But seems like U8G haven’t arrived yet to Msia, and U7G is kinda rare to look at in Lazada/Shopee. Which between the two TVs do you prefer more?
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QUOTE(Puteih @ Apr 8 2022, 09:21 AM)
Sorry, this may be out of topic. I have listed down between Sony X90J and Hisense U8G. But seems like U8G haven’t arrived yet to Msia, and U7G is kinda rare to look at in Lazada/Shopee. Which between the two TVs do you prefer more?
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Best if you can see it for yourself. I have never seen U7G before and local U7G also differs from those reviewed by youtuber as local version dont have 120hz.

I only have Hisense A7400F which is a low end tv.
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Sorry, this may be out of topic. I have listed down between Sony X90J and Hisense U8G. But seems like U8G haven’t arrived yet to Msia, and U7G is kinda rare to look at in Lazada/Shopee. Which between the two TVs do you prefer more?
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Just on specs, the X90J is the better TV. The cheapest I can find for a 65" is RM5,700.

You can buy the 65" U7G for RM3,800 on Shopee. Get the Tivo 4K as an Android box because the U7G is VIDAA based. Some Harvey Norman stores have the U7G on display.

You can only buy the U8G in Thailand for RM3,900. That's the only SEA market Hisense is selling it.

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Hi sifu2

Just came back frm HN and ask about Hisense 65U7G

Staff said it has 120hz. And the prize quite high RM4.3K almost same prize as Sony 65X85J RM4.6K.
So is it U7G Malaysian set got 120hz?

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Hi sifu2

Just came back frm HN and ask about Hisense  65U7G

Staff said it has 120hz. And the prize quite high RM4.3K almost same prize as Sony 65X85J RM4.6K.
So is it U7G Malaysian set got 120hz?
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https://www.hisense.com.my/product/4k-uled-tv-u7g/

Only hdmi 2.0 ports... why dont you showed this to the promoter?
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Only hdmi 2.0 ports... why dont you showed this to the promoter?
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Tq Bro, so the staff dont know what r they sell
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Just on specs, the X90J is the better TV. The cheapest I can find for a 65" is RM5,700.

You can buy the 65" U7G for RM3,800 on Shopee. Get the Tivo 4K as an Android box because the U7G is VIDAA based. Some Harvey Norman stores have the U7G on display.

You can only buy the U8G in Thailand for RM3,900. That's the only SEA market Hisense is selling it.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I recently found out my local Harvey Norman was also selling it, but at a much higher price. So the Tivo 4k is where I should install all my stuffs in if I want to? To be honest For the past couple of years we only use our TV for Netflix, Youtube and local channel TVs (through their websites respectively).
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Hi sifu2

Just came back frm HN and ask about Hisense  65U7G

Staff said it has 120hz. And the prize quite high RM4.3K almost same prize as Sony 65X85J RM4.6K.
So is it U7G Malaysian set got 120hz?
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It's what andrekua2 said. The international version is not the same as the US version, which is the preferred version due to the specs.

As far as price is concerned, you can get the 65" U7G for RM3,800 plus delivery from this seller on Shopee. If you want, you can pay for the additional extended warranty. Just make sure you choose the extended warranty option during checkout. So with the Tivo Stream 4K, you're spending about RM4,100+.


QUOTE(Ainnolj1 @ Apr 11 2022, 07:12 AM)
Tq Bro, so the staff dont know what r they sell
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It's not just Harvey Norman's staff to blame. Hisense International is also at fault. They made the US version the best version while the rest of the world got the lesser version while keeping the naming convention the same.

The 2022 Hisense line-up would probably come out in September. Hopefully the U7H would be a 120Hz upgrade, based on what Hisense Thailand has announced. No idea if U8H would be coming in to Malaysia as that one is the top product for Hisense this year. It has QLED and mini-LED.

QUOTE(Puteih @ Apr 11 2022, 09:14 AM)
So the Tivo 4k is where I should install all my stuffs in if I want to? To be honest For the past couple of years we only use our TV for Netflix, Youtube and local channel TVs (through their websites respectively).
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Well you want to use Android primarily because new apps appear there faster than the VIDAA ecosystem. Like when Disney+Hotstar launched in Malaysia but didn't launch yet on VIDAA. Android ecosystem also has Prime Video, Apple TV+, Movies Anywhere as well as Google Play.

The Tivo 4K is Dolby Vision certified and would display the DV streaming content correctly with the U7G.


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This thread is over one year old already. Probably because of supply chain issues, as well as the China lockdown, things are not coming out as they are expected. Including TVs and TV parts made in China.

Anyway, here's a bit of news out of Hisense Australia.

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Australia and South East Asia share product line-ups, most of the time. So the 2022 product range should be the same. Whether or not we will get the U8H this time around remains to be seen. U7H is guaranteed.

I think the earliest that Hisense will get products out will be September, like last year.
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Seems like U7G 65 inch is out of stock in most retailers
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Seems like U7G 65 inch is out of stock in most retailers
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That's either Hisense Malaysia didn't stock up enough or sold a lot of units.

If they are bringing in both U7H and U8H, I expect the 65" U8H will have MSRP of RM6,600 and maybe RM5,600 for online price. The U7H price would be maintained to the U7G price.

Meanwhile, TCL Malaysia still has not announced if the C825 will be sold here. On Shopee Thailand, the price for the 65" is RM5,000. Don't expect those prices in Malaysia...

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Is there any recommended 65" TV roughly Rm4k and below?

Gosh.. i just search thru their website and they got 6 model for 65"

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QUOTE(SIEWBAO @ Jun 24 2022, 11:45 AM)
Is there any recommended 65" TV roughly Rm4k and below?

Gosh.. i just search thru their website and they got 6 model for 65"
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That's like any other brands. Different range has different features.

Earlier this year, one Shopee seller sold the 65" U7G at RM3,800. Now the same seller is selling it for RM4,200. The U7G is the mid-range tier for 2021.

If you can, wait for the 2022 H line-up to appear. The arrival of U7H should dampen down the price of the U7G.

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That's like any other brands. Different range has different features.

Earlier this year, one Shopee seller sold the 65" U7G at RM3,800. Now the same seller is selling it for RM4,200. The U7G is the mid-range tier for 2021.

If you can, wait for the 2022 H line-up to appear. The arrival of U7H should dampen down the price of the U7G.
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I bought 65" U7G from this shopee seller, that time was sold at RM3799. Don't know why the price is up till RM4199 now.
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I bought 65" U7G from this shopee seller, that time was sold at RM3799.  Don't know why the price is up till RM4199 now.
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Pump up price first, then give discount on 7.7 sales.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 24 2022, 04:24 PM)
That's like any other brands. Different range has different features.

Earlier this year, one Shopee seller sold the 65" U7G at RM3,800. Now the same seller is selling it for RM4,200. The U7G is the mid-range tier for 2021.

If you can, wait for the 2022 H line-up to appear. The arrival of U7H should dampen down the price of the U7G.
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Hmm... if rm4k i might go for Sony X80K dy... lol
Btw, how to they line up which model is low spec which is higher spec?

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Hmm... if rm4k i might go for Sony X80K dy... lol
If the X80 series is what you want, then go for it.

The main feature for me is the U7G's full-array local dimming and the quantum dot layer. Hisense screwed up with its international market with the G series though by not giving 120Hz panels and sticking with VIDAA. But that's last year's news.

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I don't know. I don't work for or with Hisense.

Common sense says the features make the differences: local dimming vs micro dimming, Android vs VIDAA, quantum dot vs non, Dolby Vision vs HDR10 only. Hisense Malaysia's range has only those features for 2021, not counting the 8K TV and the UST projector, which are not mass market products. Hisense Thailand has U8G.

I think for 2022, Hisense Malaysia may bring in U8H because the mini LED feature has enough product differentiation against U7H, which has FALD. Both, according to at least Hisense Australia, would have 120 Hz panel and HDMI 2.1 ports.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 27 2022, 11:58 AM)
If the X80 series is what you want, then go for it.

The main feature for me is the U7G's full-array local dimming and the quantum dot layer. Hisense screwed up with its international market with the G series though by not giving 120Hz panels and sticking with VIDAA. But that's last year's news.

I don't know. I don't work for or with Hisense.

Common sense says the features make the differences: local dimming vs micro dimming, Android vs VIDAA, quantum dot vs non, Dolby Vision vs HDR10 only. Hisense Malaysia's range has only those features for 2021, not counting the 8K TV and the UST projector, which are not mass market products. Hisense Thailand has U8G.

I think for 2022, Hisense Malaysia may bring in U8H because the mini LED feature has enough product differentiation against U7H, which has FALD. Both, according to at least Hisense Australia, would have 120 Hz panel and HDMI 2.1 ports.
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Wow 120Hz HDMI 2.1!
Just now i roughly filter their model from their website, among

U800QF-2020
U7G
A6500G
A7400F-2020
A6100G
A7100F

Some of them still using HDMI 1.4 lol. Seriously there are too much specs to compare. Is android TV better? From their website they nvr mentioned which is Smart model which is Android model.
Still hard to decide, might consider those coming new model since not urgent. Haha!
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QUOTE(SIEWBAO @ Jun 28 2022, 12:43 PM)
Still hard to decide, might consider those coming new model since not urgent. Haha!
If it's not urgent, wait. Some markets have announced the 2022 models, like UK, while others have them on sale, like Australia.

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Wow 120Hz HDMI 2.1!
This is Australia's version of the U7H. It's not groundbreaking product because that's practically the U7G/U8G specs in the US. Like I said, Hisense screwed up the 2021 lineup internationally.

Even though the 8-bit panel is expected since Hisense is targeting the mid-end market with the U7H, 120Hz panel is very welcomed going into 2022-23. We just don't know how many local dimming zones there are.

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U800QF-2020
U7G
A6100G
VIDAA models. It's recommended that you use a Netflix-certified Android box like Mecool KM2 or Tivo Stream 4K so that you can use Disney+Hotstar with it, along with other streaming apps for Malaysia.

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A6500G
A7400F-2020
Android TV.

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A7100F
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Smart TV. No VIDAA or Android.

Strategically, Hisense Malaysia could sell the 65" U8H (Mini LED) for RM5,500 and the 65" U7H (FALD) for RM4,2000, and gain a foothold of that market price. But they won't because they're ______ and instead sell the 8K units and their UST projectors as their high-end.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 28 2022, 02:19 PM)
If it's not urgent, wait. Some markets have announced the 2022 models, like UK, while others have them on sale, like Australia.

This is Australia's version of the U7H. It's not groundbreaking product because that's practically the U7G/U8G specs in the US. Like I said, Hisense screwed up the 2021 lineup internationally.

Even though the 8-bit panel is expected since Hisense is targeting the mid-end market with the U7H, 120Hz panel is very welcomed going into 2022-23. We just don't know how many local dimming zones there are.

VIDAA models. It's recommended that you use a Netflix-certified Android box like Mecool KM2 or Tivo Stream 4K so that you can use Disney+Hotstar with it, along with other streaming apps for Malaysia.

Android TV.

Smart TV. No VIDAA or Android.

Strategically, Hisense Malaysia could sell the 65" U8H (Mini LED) for RM5,500 and the 65" U7H (FALD) for RM4,2000, and gain a foothold of that market price. But they won't because they're ______ and instead sell the 8K units and their UST projectors as their high-end.
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Woah thx for the explaination. Actually i not so familiar with these stuff but whats VIDAA? there are too much thing to compare within TV. Seems VIDAA or Android is better than Smart TV?
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 28 2022, 02:19 PM)
If it's not urgent, wait. Some markets have announced the 2022 models, like UK, while others have them on sale, like Australia.

This is Australia's version of the U7H. It's not groundbreaking product because that's practically the U7G/U8G specs in the US. Like I said, Hisense screwed up the 2021 lineup internationally.

Even though the 8-bit panel is expected since Hisense is targeting the mid-end market with the U7H, 120Hz panel is very welcomed going into 2022-23. We just don't know how many local dimming zones there are.

VIDAA models. It's recommended that you use a Netflix-certified Android box like Mecool KM2 or Tivo Stream 4K so that you can use Disney+Hotstar with it, along with other streaming apps for Malaysia.

Android TV.

Smart TV. No VIDAA or Android.

Strategically, Hisense Malaysia could sell the 65" U8H (Mini LED) for RM5,500 and the 65" U7H (FALD) for RM4,2000, and gain a foothold of that market price. But they won't because they're ______ and instead sell the 8K units and their UST projectors as their high-end.
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Mini LED for 5.5k? Is that possible?
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Woah thx for the explaination. Actually i not so familiar with these stuff but whats VIDAA? there are too much thing to compare within TV. Seems VIDAA or Android is better than Smart TV?
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Android is better than VIDAA. VIDAA is Hisense's own app ecosystem while Android is Google's. Android's Play Store, even for Android TV, are more dynamically managed than VIDAA. For example, when Disney+Hotstar launched last year, it's available for iOS and Android but VIDAA still has yet the app. Disney+ and Disney+Hotstar are not the same app.

SmartTV is an OS for TVs to enable it to add streaming content, except that the apps are limited to what the manufacturer wants the TV to have. The app content is controlled by the manufacturer for the most part. Because it's not Android or VIDAA, a SmartTV from Hisense would look completely different from LG or Toshiba. The user interface is not standardized.


QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 28 2022, 06:56 PM)
Mini LED for 5.5k? Is that possible?
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It'd be a stretch for Malaysia but the price for 55" U8H for the US starts at $1,099. That's MSRP and I think when the U8G launched, the MSRP was $1,300. According to Hisense USA's website, the 75" will be "under $1,500."

Hisense can make the price work because the panel will be 8-bit+FRC, not 10-bit. Like I said before, Hisense Malaysia can corner the mid-range market if only it dares to go between RM3,800 for the U7H and RM5,500 for the U8H. That's how they are gaining market share in the US.
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Android is better than VIDAA. VIDAA is Hisense's own app ecosystem while Android is Google's. Android's Play Store, even for Android TV, are more dynamically managed than VIDAA. For example, when Disney+Hotstar launched last year, it's available for iOS and Android but VIDAA still has yet the app. Disney+ and Disney+Hotstar are not the same app.

SmartTV is an OS for TVs to enable it to add streaming content, except that the apps are limited to what the manufacturer wants the TV to have. The app content is controlled by the manufacturer for the most part. Because it's not Android or VIDAA, a SmartTV from Hisense would look completely different from LG or Toshiba. The user interface is not standardized.
It'd be a stretch for Malaysia but the price for 55" U8H for the US starts at $1,099. That's MSRP and I think when the U8G launched, the MSRP was $1,300. According to Hisense USA's website, the 75" will be "under $1,500."

Hisense can make the price work because the panel will be 8-bit+FRC, not 10-bit. Like I said before, Hisense Malaysia can corner the mid-range market if only it dares to go between RM3,800 for the U7H and RM5,500 for the U8H. That's how they are gaining market share in the US.
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Seems the only choice left is A6500G but still using USB2.0 x2, HDMI2.0 x2 1.4x1
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Seems the only choice left is A6500G but still using USB2.0 x2, HDMI2.0 x2 1.4x1
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Why do you require the higher specced USB and HDMI?

If you can wait for the 2022 models from Hisense or any other brands, wait.

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i bought this unit in jan RM1999 only now increase price and give stupid 77% but capped at RM5.


user posted image

https://shopee.com.my/Hisense-4K-UHD-HDR-Sm...375.12015564529


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Hisense Thailand has updated their website with the 2022 lineup. When Hisense Malaysia does the same, I'll create a new thread for that. No pricing listed yet; might see them listed mid June.

From Bing Translate:

user posted image
U6H specs: Direct link here.
ULED Technology
Full Array Local Dimming
<100 Zones local dimming zones
60Hz native refresh rate
Up to 600 nits brightness
Game Mode PLUS VRR 60Hz and ALLM
VIDAA U6 Operating System


user posted image
U7H specs: Direct link here.
ULED Technology
Full Array Technology
<100 Zones local dimming zones
120Hz native refresh rate
Quantum dots
Brightness between 700-1000 nits
Imax Enhanced Technology
Dolby Vision Image Technology, HDR10+
Dolby Atmos Audio Technology
eARC, FreeSync
HDMI 2.1 (x2 based on the UK specs)
VIDAA U6 Operating System


user posted image
U8H specs: Direct link here.
ULED Technology
Mini-LED Technology
100+ Zones local dimming zones
120Hz native refresh rate
Quantum dots
Brightness between 1200-1500 nits
Imax Enhanced Technology
Dolby Vision IQ, HDR10+ Image Technology
IMAX Enhanced Audiovisual System
Dolby Atmos Audio Technology
VRR 120Hz and ALLM, FreeSync Premium Pro
HDMI 2.1 (x2 based on the UK specs)
VIDAA U6 Operating System



Now it's time for Hisense Malaysia to get serious about capturing the Malaysian low- to mid-end market.
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My Vinnfier Hyperbar 500 refuses to turn off if connected to my Hisense 65A7400F TV using HDMI ARC
Anyone with the same exact hardware combination has the same issue?

It turns off fine while the TV is turning off but it turns itself back on after a few seconds while the TV stays off

Don't have this issue with my Xiaomi P1 55" & Sharp 4TC60CK1X. Both also use the same soundbar which is the Vinnfier Hyperbar 500
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Does Hisense android TV support local digital TV and apple airplay?
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Does Hisense android TV support local digital TV and apple airplay?
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Digital TV yes, Airplay i dont think so.
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Digital TV yes, Airplay i dont think so.
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Thanks! Any TV would you recommend that has apple airplay compatible? Seems like many brochures just omit mentioning it.
I only know Sony google tv got support for airplay. Looking for 65inch tv
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My Vinnfier Hyperbar 500 refuses to turn off if connected to my Hisense 65A7400F TV using HDMI ARC
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Try turning off HDMI CEC on the TV first. Turn off the TV. Turn off the soundbar. Then turn on the TV, then the soundbar. Turn on HDMI CEC. Then turn off the TV, to check if the power is resolved.

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Jul 4 2022, 06:45 PM)
Thanks! Any TV would you recommend that has apple airplay compatible? Seems like many brochures just omit mentioning it.
I only know Sony google tv got support for airplay. Looking for 65inch tv
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You're asking for ANY TV model in a Hisense thread. Okay...

So Hisense TVs doesn't support Airplay/2. Seems like the cheapest way to use Airplay/2 is to hookup a Roku TV device to the Hisense/other brand TV. The surest way that Airplay/2 will work is if you get an Apple TV and connect that to the Hisense/other brand TV.

Sony, Samsung and LG seem to support it. Go from there.


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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 4 2022, 10:42 PM)
Try turning off HDMI CEC on the TV first. Turn off the TV. Turn off the soundbar. Then turn on the TV, then the soundbar. Turn on HDMI CEC. Then turn off the TV, to check if the power is resolved.
Will test this out. Thanks
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 4 2022, 10:42 PM)
SNIP
Didn't work
I even tried with a new HDMI cable

The only thing I haven't tried is reset the whole TV
Maybe 1 day I will try doing that

Or perhaps the Vinnfier Hyperbar 500 is not fully compatible with the Hisense 65A7400F
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 5 2022, 08:40 PM)
Didn't work
I even tried with a new HDMI cable

The only thing I haven't tried is reset the whole TV
Maybe 1 day I will try doing that

Or perhaps the Vinnfier Hyperbar 500 is not fully compatible with the Hisense 65A7400F
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As a standard, HDMI is not perfect. These things happen. It could be the Hisense TV. It could be the Vinnfier sound bar.

Sometimes something failed in the motherboard of either things which led to these failure. And sometimes the failure is not permanent.

My last suggestion is if the Vinnfier has any other input besides HDMI, say Bluetooth or 3.5mm analog, you could switch to that input and then turn it off manually. Since it's switch has changed to the other input, it should be able to be turned off. But of course, manually.

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My last suggestion is if the Vinnfier has any other input besides HDMI, say Bluetooth or 3.5mm analog, you could switch to that input and then turn it off manually. Since it's switch has changed to the other input, it should be able to be turned off. But of course, manually.
Yeah, been using the 3.5mm analog all this time, just wishing the HDMI ARC would work

If only the Xiaomi P1 has a 65", I would trade this TV in a heartbeat
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 6 2022, 08:54 PM)
Yeah, been using the 3.5mm analog all this time, just wishing the HDMI ARC would work
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That's not what I mean.

Use HDMI ARC with the Vinnfier for sound; I assume the soundbar is only stereo so 3.5 mm input makes no difference except for volume control.

Since if the HDMI-connected Vinnfier turns back on after the TV is turned off, it could mean that either it mistakenly thinks that the TV is turned on again. Or the TV is still sending signal while it's off.

So when you want to turn off the TV with the Vinnfier connected via HDMI,
1) Switch the input of the Vinnfier to either BT or 3.5mm.
2) Turn off the Vinnfier.
3) Turn off the TV.

Step 1 ensures that the Vinnfier only checks the BT/3.5 mm input for any sound signal coming in. This way it's not being told what to do by HDMI, that is turn back on.

The drawback of this is the extra steps needed to be taken before you turn on or off the TV. The upside is that you can control the volume via the TV's remote.

If this suggestion fails, it means the TV is sending a "no signal" signal via HDMI instead of sending nothing or 0 voltage.


EDIT: By the way, Hisense Singapore has started selling U7H and U8H. Their website reflects this as well as their Shopee listing. Interestingly, they seem to want to sell only 75" and 85" U7H. moneyflies.gif

The official Hisense store in Shopee Malaysia no longer has U7G listed. So I think the 2022 models are coming soon, just late to the party again.

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SNIP
Finally! The issue is fixed by updating the firmware of my 65A7400F manually

A special thank you to stasio for highlighting the firmware update for the A7400F. Was scared at first to run the update because I'm afraid the update will screw up the TV somehow. But alas, the update worked perfectly

Now the ARC function works beautifully, when the TV goes into standby mode, my Vinnfier Hyperbar 500 also goes to sleep

Weird why Hisense Malaysia isn't pushing the L0205 firmware update
My A7400F was previously on K0811

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For those who wants to update their A7400F firmware to L0205, here's the actual steps:

Download Link: https://mega.nz/file/wZhVzArS#q5t-1mKlCSjja...0068APS9KAfsZwY

Steps:
1. Download and extract the "upgrade_no_tvcertificate.pkg" file to the root folder of your USB flash drive formatted to FAT32 in MBR partition table
2. Turn off the TV
3. Disconnect the power cable
4. Insert the USB flash drive into any of the USB port at the back of the TV
5. Hold the power button on the remote making sure it's pointing to the TV IR receiver while reconnecting the power cable (might need help from another person for this)
6. Wait until the update process is complete. It will take a few minutes

Owh and a special reminder to all: The firmware update will reset the TV. Everything you've installed/downloaded into the internal storage of the TV will disappear

Important Note: The firmware update is only valid for Hisense A7400F TV with this service code:
HX65A6106FUW

Special Note: I am not responsible for any damage that might occur. Run the firmware update on your own risk
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For those who wants to update their A7400F firmware to L0205, here's the actual steps:

Download Link: https://mega.nz/file/wZhVzArS#q5t-1mKlCSjja...0068APS9KAfsZwY

Steps:
1. Download and extract the "upgrade_no_tvcertificate.pkg" file to the root folder of your USB flash drive formatted to FAT32 in MBR partition table
2. Turn off the TV
3. Disconnect the power cable
4. Insert the USB flash drive into any of the USB port at the back of the TV
5. Hold the power button on the remote making sure it's pointing to the TV IR receiver while reconnecting the power cable (might need help from another person for this)
6. Wait until the update process is complete. It will take a few minutes

Owh and a special reminder to all: The firmware update will reset the TV. Everything you've installed/downloaded into the internal storage of the TV will disappear

Important Note: The firmware update is only valid for Hisense A7400F TV with this service code:
HX65A6106FUW

Special Note: I am not responsible for any damage that might occur. Run the firmware update on your own risk
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Have newer versions.....L0907 and L1212 (depend on service code)

https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=1...ost&p=113062901





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For those who wants to update their A7400F firmware to L0205, here's the actual steps:

Download Link: https://mega.nz/file/wZhVzArS#q5t-1mKlCSjja...0068APS9KAfsZwY

Steps:
1. Download and extract the "upgrade_no_tvcertificate.pkg" file to the root folder of your USB flash drive formatted to FAT32 in MBR partition table
2. Turn off the TV
3. Disconnect the power cable
4. Insert the USB flash drive into any of the USB port at the back of the TV
5. Hold the power button on the remote making sure it's pointing to the TV IR receiver while reconnecting the power cable (might need help from another person for this)
6. Wait until the update process is complete. It will take a few minutes

Owh and a special reminder to all: The firmware update will reset the TV. Everything you've installed/downloaded into the internal storage of the TV will disappear

Important Note: The firmware update is only valid for Hisense A7400F TV with this service code:
HX65A6106FUW

Special Note: I am not responsible for any damage that might occur. Run the firmware update on your own risk
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Thanks for sharing. I might try to update mine. Hope all goes well.
Is there a way to backup current firmware?

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Hi. Is RM2699 consider a good price right now for U7G? Or later have a better deal?
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Hi. Is RM2699 consider a good price right now for U7G? Or later have a better deal?
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Size?

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Size?
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Forgot to mention. 55'.
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I believe so. The 55" U7G at the beginning sold at around RM3,000 and then went down to RM2,800. So RM100 saving.

The 65" initially sold at, through one dealer on Shopee/Lazada, at RM3,800. Then perhaps due to Malaysia's plunging Ringgit, it went up to RM4,200. Now I have seen a seller in Johor selling it for RM4,000. So a saving of RM200.


For those in JB or nearby, or are just willing to drive in their own vans: Get TCL's 735 or 835 from Singapore instead. A bit of a hassle and pricier for the 835, but these two are a lot better than 2021/2022 models. And they are running on Android too. Don't know why TCL Malaysia haven't launched it yet.
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I have a Hisense 75” 4k which I sold off because the black is disappointing. Hisense use ips panel so the black level and contrast is really not that good. Once I off the light, I can see that the black is not black at all and it’s grey.

I just bought a 85” TCL from China and I haven’t install it yet. TCL uses VA panel which have better black and higher contrast.

For me personally, I would avoid ips panel lcd tv
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Aug 8 2022, 04:31 PM)
I have a Hisense 75” 4k which I sold off because the black is disappointing.  Hisense use ips panel so the black level and contrast is really not that good. Once I off the light, I can see that the black is not black at all and it’s grey. 
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That's a blanket statement. Not all Sony, LG, Panasonic or Samsung TVs use VA panels. Panel usage is dependent on the product tier (low, mid or high-end), locality and year. International and US models of 65" U7G and U8G are VA. International U7H are ADS/IPS, sadly.

So buyers, do your research.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 8 2022, 05:05 PM)
That's a blanket statement. Not all Sony, LG, Panasonic or Samsung TVs use VA panels. Panel usage is dependent on the product tier (low, mid or high-end), locality and year. International and US models of 65" U7G and U8G are VA. International U7H are ADS/IPS, sadly.

So buyers, do your research.
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True. I did check a few 85” Hisense model in china and unfortunately they all use ips panel. That’s why I decided to go for the TCL 85T7E which uses VA panel.



I won’t buy TV in Malaysia anymore because it’s so much cheaper in china. My previous 75” Hisense I bought in china for RM2600 only including shipping

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I believe so. The 55" U7G at the beginning sold at around RM3,000 and then went down to RM2,800. So RM100 saving.

The 65" initially sold at, through one dealer on Shopee/Lazada, at RM3,800. Then perhaps due to Malaysia's plunging Ringgit, it went up to RM4,200. Now I have seen a seller in Johor selling it for RM4,000. So a saving of RM200.
For those in JB or nearby, or are just willing to drive in their own vans: Get TCL's 735 or 835 from Singapore instead. A bit of a hassle and pricier for the 835, but these two are a lot better than 2021/2022 models. And they are running on Android too. Don't know why TCL Malaysia haven't launched it yet.
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Ok thanks for the advise. Will buy it this weekend 🙏🏻😊.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Aug 8 2022, 05:25 PM)
True.  I did check a few 85” Hisense model in china and unfortunately they all use ips panel. That’s why I decided to go for the TCL 85T7E which uses VA panel. 
I won’t buy TV in Malaysia anymore because it’s so much cheaper in china.  My previous 75” Hisense I bought in china for RM2600 only including shipping

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If warranty isn't an issue for you i think it's feasible option too

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Thanks for sharing. I might try to update mine. Hope all goes well.
Is there a way to backup current firmware?
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How did it go?

Where do you find the service code?
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How did it go?

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It went fine through "upgrade from usb" option

Menu > help > system messages
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It went fine through "upgrade from usb" option

Menu > help > system messages
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Which version did u update? Anything new after update?
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New "Android TV Data Saver" app but error to update.
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Is Hisense 55U7G a good buy under 3k? Or any good tv to recommend for that price range
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 8 2022, 05:05 PM)
That's a blanket statement. Not all Sony, LG, Panasonic or Samsung TVs use VA panels. Panel usage is dependent on the product tier (low, mid or high-end), locality and year. International and US models of 65" U7G and U8G are VA. International U7H are ADS/IPS, sadly.

So buyers, do your research.
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Do you know if 55U7G panel VA or IPS? US model is VA but not sure about Malaysia one.
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Is Hisense 55U7G a good buy under 3k? Or any good tv to recommend for that price range
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It's about the features you want at the price you can afford.

As far as I know at RM3,000, the 55" U7G gives a FALD screen, VA panel, Dolby Vision enabled, Netflix certified TV. Cons are it's using VIDAA OS and 8-bit panel. To be fair, no manufacturer gives you 10-bit, 120Hz panel, FALD, VA panel, Android 55" TV at RM3,000. This is why Hisense is in the budget category (though they gave these feature set, minus 10-bit, to North American market). The features in bold are premium features. And for this year onwards, mini LED is another premium feature.

If you main watch streaming services and don't mind gaming at 60Hz, the U7G is that TV for your price point. You should buy a Tivo Stream 4K as a Netflix certified, Dolby Vision certified Android box to supplement your streaming needs though.

QUOTE(s_d_n_10 @ Aug 11 2022, 10:18 PM)
Do you know if 55U7G panel VA or IPS? US model is VA but not sure about Malaysia one.
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I posted about LCDTV Thailand's review of the U7G last year. Short answer, VA.


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QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 12 2022, 12:13 PM)
It's about the features you want at the price you can afford.

As far as I know at RM3,000, the 55" U7G gives a FALD screen, VA panel, Dolby Vision enabled, Netflix certified TV. Cons are it's using VIDAA OS and 8-bit panel. To be fair, no manufacturer gives you 10-bit, 120Hz panel, FALD, VA panel, Android 55" TV at RM3,000. This is why Hisense is in the budget category (though they gave these feature set, minus 10-bit, to North American market). The features in bold are premium features. And for this year onwards, mini LED is another premium feature.

If you main watch streaming services and don't mind gaming at 60Hz, the U7G is that TV for your price point. You should buy a Tivo Stream 4K as a Netflix certified, Dolby Vision certified Android box to supplement your streaming needs though.

I posted about LCDTV Thailand's review of the U7G last year. Short answer, VA.
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Lucky I stumbled on this thread. Was going order a 65U7G for it popular reviews online. The missing HDMI 2.1 (120Hz) port for Malaysia market is really a let down unfortunately.
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QUOTE(Bali ais @ Aug 18 2022, 10:37 PM)
Lucky I stumbled on this thread. Was going order a 65U7G for it popular reviews online. The missing HDMI 2.1 (120Hz) port for Malaysia market is really a let down unfortunately.
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It's not just about the 2.1 port. If the panel itself is not 120 Hz panel, having HDMI 2.1 is a moot point. Since it's 2022, if you intend on gaming at 120 Hz, go with TCL's C835 based on Vincent Teoh's recommendation. You just have to travel to SG or TH to buy it.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 19 2022, 03:32 PM)
It's not just about the 2.1 port. If the panel itself is not 120 Hz panel, having HDMI 2.1 is a moot point. Since it's 2022, if you intend on gaming at 120 Hz, go with TCL's C835 based on Vincent Teoh's recommendation. You just have to travel to SG or TH to buy it.
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Haha, no thanks. The price increase for household appliances is annoying.
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By the way, is the 2022 Hisense TV out? Is now a good time to lock in any purchase of 2021 TV?
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Only the low-end stuff. They have H as a suffix. Again, Thailand and Singapore markets have the U7H and U8H out.

The U7H-I (I for international version, my suffix to avoid confusion) is really for gamers who want 120Hz gaming. The FALD zones have decreased even more. Hisense use IPS panel instead of VA this time. So if you're more into movie watching, the U7G is good and available. You can wait when the H/2022 models arrive but the G/2021 version probably won't get much of a price cut because we're in Malaysia.

U8G, if it comes at all, may have a price of RM5,500-5,000 for the 65". At that price, the TCL 65" C835 is a better option, which you can only get in Thailand or Singapore.

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anyone planning to buy?

https://amanz.my/2022354404/

FALD and 120Hz panel..
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Fyi, updated my 65A7400F to L1211. Noticed VLC now has option to match display frame rate.

https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=1009574&st=820
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anyone planning to buy?

https://amanz.my/2022354404/

FALD and 120Hz panel..
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I created a Hisense 2022 thread and mentioned this press release. So far, the U7H has not yet been listed on Shopee today.

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Fyi, updated my 65A7400F to L1211. Noticed VLC now has option to match display frame rate.

https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=1009574&st=820
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Did you download the one for H50xxxxxxx?

Updated to 0205 and honestly not much difference. Maybe a bit smoother. The only thing I hate is they wiped out everything.
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Did you download the one for H50xxxxxxx?

Updated to 0205 and honestly not much difference. Maybe a bit smoother. The only thing I hate is they wiped out everything.
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QUOTE(alvinddm @ Aug 31 2022, 09:13 PM)
Fyi, updated my 65A7400F to L1211. Noticed VLC now has option to match display frame rate.
Wait, there's a L1211? Can you share the download link?
I tried looking at the 4PDA forum but couldn't find the download link for L1211
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Anyone tried doing warranty claim for their Hisense TV?
My 65A7400F is showing green lines at the bottom of the screen

Bought in February 2021 so by my calculation, it still has warranty until February 2024 since Hisense provides 3 year warranty for their TVs
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Anyone tried doing warranty claim for their Hisense TV?
My 65A7400F is showing green lines at the bottom of the screen

Bought in February 2021 so by my calculation, it still has warranty until February 2024 since Hisense provides 3 year warranty for their TVs
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Someone made a claim and was given a u6k as replacement. Man, how you guys use the tv? Long hours everyday?

Update: His original tv was a u7g, not A7400F.

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Man, how you guys use the tv? Long hours everyday?
Not really. My living room TV is rarely used
We only use it when having dinner/breakfast/lunch

After finished eating, we turn it off
Rarely use the TV for long period of time except when people come to our house

Damn. My 6 years old Hisense 58" K220P that was purchased in 2017 had zero issues until today despite being abused alot more
Previously used for my master bedroom to watch movies every night then I gave it to my in-laws who had nothing to do all day besides watching TV and it's still working fine until today
No dead pixel, no green lines, no nothing

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 5 2023, 11:06 PM)
Anyone tried doing warranty claim for their Hisense TV?
My 65A7400F is showing green lines at the bottom of the screen

Bought in February 2021 so by my calculation, it still has warranty until February 2024 since Hisense provides 3 year warranty for their TVs
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You just lodge a warranty claim report to their after sales support. Their technician will call you up and arrange a drop by to check your Tv problem.
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You just lodge a warranty claim report to their after sales support.  Their technician will call you up and arrange a drop by to check your Tv problem.
Waiting for the seller to provide me with an invoice since I bought the TV through Shopee but the seller said he will provide an official retail shop invoice so I can proceed with the warranty claim

No retail shop invoice: 2 year warranty
With retail shop invoice: 3 year warranty

Strange la Hisense laugh.gif
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Just got the invoice. Will proceed to do warranty claim for my A7400F now
Very good after sales service by the store. Will definitely buy from them again
Purchased in 2021 and they still entertain invoice request thumbsup.gif

Wondering what would they replace it with
Hopefully not any TV with the VIDAA OS. I need Google TV sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 6 2023, 02:58 PM)
Just got the invoice. Will proceed to do warranty claim for my A7400F now
Very good after sales service by the store. Will definitely buy from them again
Purchased in 2021 and they still entertain invoice request thumbsup.gif

Wondering what would they replace it with
Hopefully not any TV with the VIDAA OS. I need Google TV sweat.gif
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Arrr..... is the VIDAA OS so bad???

I just placed order for U7K from harvey norman...........

But I did play around with the TV seem the overall experience seem not bad.

Originally was testing U6K Pro because I want Google TV, but after put both TV side by side, I opt for U7K after tested with some youtube video and netflix movie.



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Arrr..... is the VIDAA OS so bad???

I just placed order for U7K from harvey norman...........

But I did play around with the TV seem the overall experience seem not bad.

Originally was testing U6K Pro because I want Google TV, but after put both TV side by side, I opt for U7K after tested with some youtube video and netflix movie.
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If you like to install other applications apk like vpn, tvbox, and etc, then I would advice you to avoid VIDAA OS.
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If you like to install other applications apk like vpn, tvbox, and etc, then I would advice you to avoid VIDAA OS.
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I'm not really installing those apps in my tv. even my X90J Google TV, i only installed with those streaming apps.
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I'm not really installing those apps in my tv. even my X90J Google TV, i only installed with those streaming apps.
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I don't think VIDAA OS allows you to install other apk instead it's own preinstalled. So, that will be a problem if you try to install third party apk.
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I don't think VIDAA OS allows you to install other apk instead it's own preinstalled.  So, that will be a problem if you try to install third party apk.
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There is a VIDAA store like Google Play store in the TV, but didn't have chance explore more on the VIDAA store yet. Don't think I will install any other 3rd party apk download from other sources.

Mainly watch youtube, netflix and disney+ hotstar.
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There is a VIDAA store like Google Play store in the TV, but didn't have chance explore more on the VIDAA store yet. Don't think I will install any other 3rd party apk download from other sources.

Mainly watch youtube, netflix and disney+ hotstar.
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They have disney+, but no disney+hostar
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Arrr..... is the VIDAA OS so bad???
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The VIDAA OS on U7H still does not have Disney+ Hotstar. The Apple TV+ app is only the "lite" version; it cannot see my Apple movies/series library. Prime Video and Netflix work very well with Dolby Vision and HDR10+ support. So for U7K, the performance should be even better.

Get a separate Netflix-certified Android box to stream Disney+ Hotstar and whatever streaming service you want. The best is still NVIDIA Shield/Pro. Amazon FireTV 4K Max first gen is great and cheap; 2nd gen apparently has issues with sideloading.

When you get your TV, the first thing you have to do is ENABLE ENHANCED HDMI. This will allow you to use 4K devices with Dolby Vision/Atmos support.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 8 2023, 03:59 PM)
The VIDAA OS on U7H still does not have Disney+ Hotstar. The Apple TV+ app is only the "lite" version; it cannot see my Apple movies/series library. Prime Video and Netflix work very well with Dolby Vision and HDR10+ support. So for U7K, the performance should be even better.

Get a separate Netflix-certified Android box to stream Disney+ Hotstar and whatever streaming service you want. The best is still NVIDIA Shield/Pro. Amazon FireTV 4K Max first gen is great and cheap; 2nd gen apparently has issues with sideloading.

When you get your TV, the first thing you have to do is ENABLE ENHANCED HDMI. This will allow you to use 4K devices with Dolby Vision/Atmos support.
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Yeah I tested Netflix on the spot using my account . After compare both, can't really choose U6K Pro, the PQ is alot much different. haha so at the end choose U7K even over budget tongue.gif tongue.gif




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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Nov 8 2023, 07:37 PM)
Yeah I tested Netflix on the spot using my account . After compare both, can't really choose U6K Pro, the PQ is alot much different. haha so at the end choose U7K even over budget tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Stopped by Harvey Norman yesterday to briefly see if VIDAA 6 has been updated. It hasn't and they still don't have Disney+ Hotstar. So you better get another device to use that app.

Also, I suggest that you open a new thread for the U7K as a new owner. This thread is very old already.

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U6K 75 inch is a good choice at this moment? Just need a full array local dimming 75 inch tv.
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post Nov 20 2023, 04:31 PM

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Hisense just came today to deliver the replacement TV
They replaced my faulty 65A7400F with 65A6500K

Not sure if it's an upgrade or downgrade but so far I'm liking it

Features that I liked on the A6500K that was not present on the A7400F:
1. Built-in Hey Google capability makes things a lot easier. Now I don't have to press the Google Assistant button on the remote to use Hey Google
2. Built-in Apple AirPlay & Apple Homekit feature. Very useful for Apple users like me

The sad part, it's still running on Android 11, instead of Android 12/13
Which means the homescreen is still displaying at 1080P

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Nov 20 2023, 04:57 PM

 

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