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post May 7 2021, 02:14 PM, updated 3y ago

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Here's the full line-up.

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The U8G would be the one that is the most attractive. If the specs perform as advertise, it could blow Sony X90J and other makes similar to it, out of the water.

This is the full launch video, with a timestamp for the U8G.

With every single model is a FALD, Dolby Vision/Atmos model with HDMI 2.1, Hisense will dominate the market from big brands who made no effort to upgrade their offerings.

Here's hoping Hisense Malaysia brings all of the 2021 models here and price it similar to the US.

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post May 12 2021, 12:09 PM

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FOMO Youtube channel just reviewed the U8G and compared it against Samsung's QLED.


Edited to fix the YouTube embed. For others who don't know, like I didn't, just use the Youtube video ID; don't use the full Youtube URL.

Digital Trends and RTings have yet to review it.

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post May 12 2021, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Maknusia @ May 12 2021, 02:43 PM)
Competition is always welcome, its good for consumer!  biggrin.gif

But concurring the market its gonna take time and they need to build their reputation like better warranty and after sales!

Well if Hisense really want to conquer the SEA market, they really need to match their offering to the US. The current Malaysian line-up is not. They need to bring the new U range to SEA and compete. TCL Malaysia is not bringing comparable products here.

I think it'll be at least June before Hisense Malaysia announces their 2021 lineup. They're now doing their Raya promo so they can't undercut their older models yet.

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What's their warranty like, and is their service center? any info?
While their customer service in the US seems to be well regarded, locally I don't know. They do have a weird warranty on offer though. 2 years if you buy online. 3 years if you buy retail.

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BTW, X90H is full array with local dimming hence it should compete with H9G.
any idea whats the going price? writesimply
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Last I checked, the 65X90H was going at RM5,800 the cheapest. There is no H9G model for Malaysia. The 65" only U800QF series is similar to Hisense UK's 65" U8QF. The only difference is the stand. The U800QF is being sold now at RM4999-RM50065 with RM100 Netflix voucher.

The U800QF has 180 dimming zones compared to the X90H's 32. The Sony has a better video processing chip but it also doesn't do well with low bitrate Youtube/downloaded video in terms of gradation. From what I tested, the U800QF did better with low bit-rate videos.

** One thing I noticed is that X90H could not recognize Dolby Vision content playing through a USB drive using their native Media Player. The U800QF does.

I hope the U8G will be priced similar to the U800QF, seeing that U8G is a modest upgrade to the U800QF.

QUOTE(eltaria @ May 12 2021, 03:49 PM)
Hi all, is the 65U800QF similar to the H9G in the US?
I'm a bit confused with the different naming conventions @@
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I think it's similar to the U8QF in the UK, down to the JBL speakers and VIDAA os.

The U800QF from Hisense Malaysia.
The U8QF from Hisense UK.

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post May 14 2021, 01:28 PM

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EDIT: changed TCL to Xiaomi Mi

QUOTE(eltaria @ May 13 2021, 12:39 PM)
is there local TV review channels?
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I don't know of any. Even local newspapers and online tech sites don't do a technical analysis simply because you need specialized equipment and the know-how to do so.

Since most people don't tend to pay for a calibration service for their TVs - as most people are not rich people - the simplest guide on buying TVs/anything is:

1) Does it fit your budget and space?
If you can't afford it, you can't buy it. If you can't fit it in, you can't buy it.

2) Does it have features that you want right now and in the next 24 months?
List all the must-haves that you want and compare.

3) Does it do its job well enough out of the box?
For TVs, it has to look good enough out of the box. With "settings" you can find on some websites and user forums that you can adjust with your remote, that's the max you can do without paying for calibration or buying something out of your range.

4) Does it have a good customer service?
This is important because you want support if something goes wrong. While the big brands do have good customer service, just remember they all started at Year 1 decades ago and earned their reputations through the years.


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I'll check out the U8QF reviews then.
Here's one YouTube review.



This one is by AVForums.
Remember that U800QF (Malaysian model) is last year's. If you can wait for TCL or Hisense's 2021 model, I suggest you wait. Xiomi (not TCL) will announce their Mi Q1 75" on May 20th. Hisense, I have no idea.

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Wonder why they spec/name it differently across different countries.

Before the 2000s, this wasn't really the case. The specs are the same but the model numbers are slightly different. Then came the subscription services like SiriusXM satellite radio, iHeartRadio, Netflix and Prime Video. Then Roku and Android.

I think with smart TVs, the why has to do with how popular the operating system is in that given country, how lucrative the deal is between OS maker and TV manufacturer, and how the sales department just understanding the market.

They are trying different things, I guess. For example, in the US and perhaps worldwide, Hisense will roll out their Dual Cell technology time this year. But they already tried it out in Australia last year and didn't get glowing reviews about its brightness.



Anyway, another American YouTuber just got his hands on the Hisense U8G. He confirmed that 120Hz gaming and VRR/FreeSync is working with an XBox Series X. No idea if Dolby Atmos, if the game supports it, would also work at the same time.


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post May 14 2021, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(eltaria @ May 14 2021, 03:49 PM)
Okay, I can wait a couple more months, as targeted move in to new house date is still a couple months away.
Sounds like an ideal timeline. In the meanwhile, I'll update this thread with more reviews of the Hisense range as they come online.

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But the FOMO channel is saying that for 4k tv, the new gen is actually worst than the previous gen. Have you watched that review, and what do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

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Yeah, I've watched this video. For those who didn't, he basically is saying the big brands made incremental changes from 2020 models to 2021 models. He made this video before Hisense announced their 2021 line-up.

The argument is completely logical. We've seen this happened when LCD TVs started coming out with 480p and 720p, and then 720p and 1080p models. This explains why Hisense bet on making inroads with their FALDs and QLED 4K 2021 offerings not as a option but as a standard. Mi Malaysia is following suit, getting the Mi Q1 75" from India probably (where they have a manufacturing plant). TCL Malaysia is still disappointing in their product ranges, though to be fair they haven't announced their 2021 lineup.

It's good to see the budget brands giving people the features that they want with quality products.



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post May 15 2021, 01:23 AM

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EDIT: added the FOMO link.


Digital Trends reviewed the U8G. Previously they did only the unboxing.



FOMO made a more detailed review about the color volume of the U8G and compared it to a calibrated Samsung QN90A. In this video, he's still not gotten the U8G calibrated.



I don't expect the UK or European websites to have the 2021 lineup until at least June as it seems Hisense UK has yet to be updated. Hisense Canada calls the U8G as the U88G.

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post May 15 2021, 04:16 PM

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EDIT: Spelling.

Quantum TV Youtube channel added his thoughts on the U8G. Take this with a grain of salt. But he has been doing TV reviews for a while.



RTings is probably about to order their U8G.

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post May 16 2021, 05:55 PM

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Quantum TV checked the nits before and after calibration. Specular highlights for HDR content seems more than decent. Seems to corroborate Digital Trends' findings.


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post May 28 2021, 08:23 PM

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Found out today that Hisense is launching the U7G for Malaysia. Details are here. FALD, ULED (QLED?), Dolby Vision/Atmos, 55" and 65". No word on pricing yet. Hopefully between RM3,000 to RM4,500 for the 65".

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The specs on HDMI 2.0 is a bit suspect since all the other details is almost similar to Hisense USA's U7G info. Also the same line has contradictory details. EDIT: See this slide where it talks about HDMI 2.1. In the spec page, it mentions HDMI 2.0 and 1.4.

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EDIT: Since there are more slides talking about ALLM, VRR and FreeSync, I think the spec sheet about the HDMI ports is wrong. Also the slide about the wide viewing angle may mean it's an IPS panel.

The MY version has 90 dimming zones while the US version has 72. MY version doesn't come with Android, just VIDAA.

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post Jun 1 2021, 09:00 PM

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So that happened...

Apparently Hisense Malaysia was not ready to announce the U7G just yet. Because the link to the page is now gone. 404ed. But don't tell them that the link to the images are still good. whistling.gif

I think they're focused on their current promo, which would run for a month, while highlighting the new models A6500G And A6100G, and last year's U800QF. So maybe we won't see the ULED/QLED 2021 series being announced/sold until July or August.

I can wait.
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post Jun 3 2021, 02:13 PM

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So Hisense Malaysia officially announces the U7G through their Facebook post, with a YouTube link. The video says nothing much and is a copy from the European EUFA campaign.

It's interesting that they use sports as U7G's position in their lineup. One would think they would market it for gamers as well, considering the gaming features.


The revised product page is kinda interesting.

HDMI 2.1 slide is no longer there (though I have it hot-linked up in my post). The spec sheet still says 4 HDMI 2.0 ports.

Also gone is the mentioning of dimming zones. There is local dimming but they don't mention the zones. Perhaps because there are the 55" and 65" models, they don't want to put the number there. But not helpful. To be fair, the product page for the US version is similar. No mentioning of dimming zones. On Reddit, Hisense Canada says to be confirmed, the 55" has 70 dimming zones and the 65" and 75" has 90. Previously, Hisense Malaysia listed it as 90.

FreeSync is no longer mentioned. VRR and ALLM are still highlighted.

Wide viewing angle is also not mentioned, which is a good thing. It might hint at VA panel being used, just as wide viewing angle hints at IPS panel being used.

Still using VIDAA. There is a slide that says integration with Google and Amazon through the RemoteNOW app. So because of the two, I think the Google Play Store will be available in VIDAA.

And no word on price. Hisense Malaysia might be preparing the pricing structure with their marketing promotion along with the 2021 brochure. I don't think they're bringing the U9DG here so U8G might be their highest end product before their laser projector.
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post Jun 5 2021, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(pcteck19 @ Jun 5 2021, 12:11 PM)
Hisense UK already launched U8G series (55/65U8GQTUK)
https://hisense.co.uk/tvs/all-tvs/u8g/

178 viewing angle meas IPS panel?
Peak brightness is down to 1000nits (US 1500nits)
4 x HDMI 2.1 ???
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There's definitely a huge difference between the US/Canada version and the rest of the world. Probably due to the panel supplies. This is unfortunate. We'll see what Malaysia gets with the U7G and U8G. I can only hope that we get the 10-bit QD VA panel.

EDITED: Yeah, 2 x HDMI 2.1 ports with one eARC port, and 2 HDMI 2.0 ports. I think that's the standard for the 2021 ULED models.

What's weird is that Hisense UK announced the U8G while Hisense Malaysia announced U7G.

With regards to Quantum Dots and naming convention, Hisense seems to want to simplify it this year depending on how strong the Q branding is in which market. Who knows?

And with regards to U7G not having QD, I don't know. Maybe. The US version has it on their U7G line. The UK website has it on the U8G. The H9G (US), the U8QF (UK) and U800QF (Malaysia/SEA) have the same QD panels with different features (Android vs VIDAA) and base stands.
Maybe Hisense Malaysia is only not mentioning QD in the U7G so that it doesn't cannibalize the U800QF stocks that it still has.

Again I think after the current EUFA campaign is done and Hisense Malaysia releases the U7G and the U8G - maybe even the U6G, we can know about QDs, panels, bit depth, brightness and pricing. Once the they are in Harvey Norman stores - I only seem to see new Hisense models there - and the demo mode runs, we can know for sure.

Right now Hisense, TCL and Xiaomi have to establish themselves in the Malaysian market as a reputable, low-to-mid end manufacturer to survive. OEM manufacturers are already pushing their 4K TVs in the market. Xiaomi priced itself out with the Q1 75. TCL is sluggish to react to market changes.

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post Jun 6 2021, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(pcteck19 @ Jun 5 2021, 08:18 PM)
i thought MTK SoC solution up to 2 x HDMI 2.1 only? Even US U8G also 2 x HDMI 2.1 only.

if not mistaken, only Samsung and LG designed their on chip, the rest taking from Mediatek.
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You're correct. 2 HDMI 2.1 and 2 HDMI 2.0.

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post Jun 6 2021, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(StarLightMe @ Jun 6 2021, 04:00 PM)
Anyone could advice what's the different between Hisense A7400F (55 INCH) and 55E6F... Which one is better?
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Cannot find the webpage of the E6F range even on Hisense's site. Try to compare them on Hisense's store on Shopee/Lazada listing.

From my comparison, they look the same, except that the A7400F is a new range, it has Android OS and it has Dolby Vision. If you don't intend to buy a separate Netflix-certified Android box, go with the A7400F. Proprietary TV OSes are often slow in updating or adding apps, like Disney + Hotstar.
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post Jun 7 2021, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(pcteck19 @ Jun 7 2021, 01:43 PM)
How sure you are about the MY U7G is equivalent to A7G in the comparision?

https://hisense.co.uk/tvs/all-tvs/a7g/
The official website states A7G has no local dimming,  3 x HDMI 2.1; it's diffrent from the displayspecification.com info.

Really confusig, i dont think A7G has 3 x HDMI 2.1 hmm.gif
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This post is not directed to pcteck in any way. Just to join in his/her chat with kananthen.

I'm sure UK people who want to compare the US and UK versions are frustrated about this inconsistency. Me included. I tried to look for the UK's A7G manual. It led to the page for the A6G manual. doh.gif

Also, the US U7G page/spec sheet doesn't list eARC yet the manual says it does have eARC. So not everything is listed, like the dimming zones for the 65" U7G's spec sheet is 90, not 70 as listed on DisplaySpecifications.com. I think 70 zones is for the 55", and 90 for the 65" and 75" versions.

Malaysia's site doesn't have downloadable PDFs for anything. ranting.gif

I don't think the UK A7G is the same as the U7G USA/Malaysia. I don't know if the U7G USA is the same as the Malaysian version. Until they launch, all we can do is wait before comparing. So maybe the lesson here is to not trust the info on DisplaySpecifications.com until maybe six months after the products have launched.

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This is from Hisense Malaysia's Instagram. The reply about the U7G means they do have somebody managing their social media. But the pic has the U7 and U8 shown, and that's not the U800QF. The base stand on the U8 is different too.

QUOTE(kananthen @ Jun 7 2021, 01:06 AM)
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Found this, who are the Hisense Authorized Dealers ?
Me wanna pre-order....
Please advise.
Thanking you in advance.
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Where did you find that image? Jaya Jusco and Harvey Norman are authorized dealers that I know of. Check the interactive dealers list here.

U7G RM4600 with a RM200 TNG credit is a good deal for a 65" FALD. If you're iffy, obviously wait to see it in person at stores once the MCO is over in July.


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post Jun 8 2021, 05:47 PM

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So Hisense Malaysia has just announced their 2021-22 lineup. No U8G. bangwall.gif Download the 2021-22 PDF brochure here.

Top of the line is the Laser TV 100L5F still. It looks like the same model as the last two years.

Next is the U900KF. I believe this is actually the 75" 8K model they intended to market in 2020. It was listed in last year's brochure.

Third in line is the U7G.

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After that is the A7G. Only in 75" and 85". QD. WCG. 3 x HDMI 2.0 (like the UK version). ALLM. VRR. Local dimming in the spec sheet, Ultra dimming in the slide; and no local dimming in the brochure. doh.gif

And after that, is the lower end SKUs.

The fact that the U8G is not coming is very disappointing.

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Whoever is doing the marketing there is either not competent at their job or is getting screwed by their boss. Both the website and the brochure are affected by this.

1) The product spec sheets are all over the place from year to year. The U900KF is labelled FALD in 2021's brochure while just having LD in 2020's brochure. The communication is inconsistent.

2) ULED is the second section in the 2020-2022 brochure. Yet in both years, there's only two products that have U in their name and the U900KF is listed in both years. 2 SKUs for both years doesn't make for a strong product feature.

3) The local dimming zone numbers are intentionally vague. The U800QF has a definite 180 zones. The U900KF has 100+; 110 would still be in the ±10 error margin. The U7G has zones but are not defined; it definitely has at least two. Vagueness doesn't build confidence.

4) The section on sound is irrelevant at best and misleading at worst. The best sound will never come from the TVs.

Finally, Hisense Malaysia missed the chance to capture the 4K bump this year with the lack of the U product range. Maybe in terms of importance, Hisense puts its money in the China market, North America and then the rest of the world.
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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Jun 9 2021, 02:51 AM)
LoL none of these new 4K TV offerings have HDMI 2.1
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HDMI 2.1 is nice to have to have but for now, it actually has limited uses. Console gaming at 120Hz has less texture and environment enhancements (crowd or effects). You need a RM2000-3000 GPUs on PCs to have any real benefit. If you can afford that, you might as well look at OLEDs.

HDMI 2.0 can handle most of what people need right now. What's more important is the panel quality.
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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jun 9 2021, 11:51 AM)
Can I ask your opinion?

What is the difference between SMART 50E6F and Android 50A7400F and Samsung’s UA50TU8000? All 50”.
You quoted what I wrote about what I found out about the two Hisense models. unsure.gif I don't know about the Samsung either except that it looks like a basic model with Tizen OS.

All three look like they are basic models. The only way to choose which one is to view them in person and judge them on their PQ and motion handling, sound quality and menu navigation. That's hard right now with the MCO.

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I am using a Firestick with Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime built in. Any TV with 3HDMI slots and an optical output is perfect for my needs.
That's a sensible requirement.

Although it doesn't mean much, I would choose the A7400F line if only for the Dolby Vision. Why it doesn't mean much? Because the TV doesn't have local dimming and doesn't have enough brightness level. It'll do a tone-map for DV content and do what it can to make it look as best as it can.

Why it means something? If you are a subscriber to all three streaming services, you might appreciate having a TV with DV just a little bit more than if they don't. All three have 4K Dolby Vision content.

However, there are other TV brands out there that are not FALD yet have DV. And they're cheaper. Look at the Philips 58" 58PUT6604. No Android but with DV and 3 HDMI inputs.

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The Mi TV doesn’t have these. I don’t use Astro. My current TV is just dying a slow death. There are streaks across the screen and rough surfaces that smells of burnt plastic! Time to ditch?
I know of vinegar syndrome for LCDs but not burnt plastic. Upgrade when you can with your budget priorities.

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I’m also limited in my budget.. Will probably buy thru Seng Heng after FMCO for warranty purposes.
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Seng Heng and other stores have their official stores on Shopee and Lazada, apart from their own website. As long as the product is supported by a local distributor and dealers, your Malaysian warranty is good.

Find a store that allows you to pay in installments if you need it. Stick to your budget and pay in installments. That way you have a cash cushion just in case.

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post Jun 9 2021, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jun 9 2021, 04:09 PM)
Yeah I read that page when I wrote my reply. Nothing there but the AirPlay 2 that's worth noting. If that's important to you, then well..

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I’m drawn to this only for the AirPlay 2 mirroring. Of course that’s not an absolute requirement as I can always stream connecting my iPad to the HDMI. I did this initially cos there wasn’t an Apple TV option on the Firestick. Now there is, but then again, I’ve got apps on my iPad not available on Firestick eg HBO Max, STARZ, Hulu.
I think HBO Max, Starz and Hulu are available for the Firestick. If not, you can also sideload it.

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Thank you for recommending the Philips. I’ll have a look at it when MCO is over.
The exact model may not be in stores. But if a store has that model or higher, you can judge the brand based on what you can see.

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I don’t, however, understand what FALD is?
FALD stands for Full Array Local Dimming. Basically an LCD TV is comprised of the LCD screen and the light source behind it. A decade ago LCD TVs used to have the light source as CCFL (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamp) but nowadays they are LEDs.

Imagine an image split into two where there is grey on the left side and black on the right side. LCDs can't really do blacks because the LED backlight has to be on for the grey section of the screen. But when you can split the LED into clusters/arrays that you can turn on and off, the LCD TV screen can "display" blacks better.

FALD refers to the full array of LED clusters across the screen. Each LED cluster is directly behind the LCD.

The more clusters of LEDs, the better the black details the TV can reproduce.

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When one electronic item goes, so do others.. need to invest in a laptop to replace my dying 8 year old Acer. Thinking of an all in one. Don’t need to carry the laptop anywhere nowadays. Can do all on my iPad.
Get an all-in-one that you can upgrade yourself. Don't be locked into something you can't upgrade one year after purchase. You can get a PC and connect it to your TV.

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Now, after all this, I’d like to invest in a relatively affordable 4K Blu-ray player. What gets me is that the SONY 4K UHD players are so much cheaper in the US than Malaysia..and the players are MADE IN MALAYSIA! I already have a multi region 1080p Bluray player. Just not 4K and no upscaling either. Bought from US. US$99 vs RM1000 here! Yes. Made in Malaysia.  sad.gif
I don't know for sure but a certain Panasonic 4K model is the preferred player to videophiles out there due to its versatility. But you can't seem to find them here.

If you need to buy them, try sourcing from Thailand or HK first since both the DVD and the BD regions are the same as Malaysia. If you can't, then the US but just remember you need a step-down transformer to use it. I see that some Panasonic and Sony models can be bought between $200-250. Hopefully Amazon can ship it to you.

You could also get a PS5. biggrin.gif Good luck finding one! From what I've seen, the PS5 doesn't support Dolby Vision. Yet. It's just a matter of paying Dolby the royalties.

If you're serious about collecting 4K BDs, then you might wanna upgrade to a FALD Dolby Vision TV in the near future.

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Thank you so much for explaining this all to me.
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No problem. Don't stress out on the current TV.

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post Jun 10 2021, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(pcteck19 @ Jun 10 2021, 12:42 PM)
Hisense U800QF has FALD, 180 zones
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What he said. It's probably one of - if not the cheapest at RM4700 - FALD TV in the market right now. PQ is very impressive, with the QD display at supposedly 1000 nits brightness. You will need to get a new Android box that supports Dolby Vision, like the new Firestick 4K, to get Disney+ Hotstar, Amazon Prime and Netflix in 4K DV.

In other news, the A7G is gone from Hisense Malaysia's website. So I think I'll focus on if or when the U series comes to Malaysia. Otherwise there are too many "website launches" that are then revised or pulled.


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