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goldwave84
post Jan 17 2022, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(GuyM @ Dec 23 2021, 04:20 PM)
If you guys can live without dolby vision on Netflix and Disney+ I supposed it's OK although most new movies and series are in DV
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Hi there - Hisense A6500G is android tv and you are saying it does not have Disney+ ? Is that correct?
goldwave84
post Jan 17 2022, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 17 2022, 12:16 PM)
You quoted me talking about the A6100G. Check Hisense Malaysia's own webpage on that.

As for A6500G, then Hisense confused itself. On this page, it lists the A6500G has Dolby Vision. But when you go to the actual A6500G page, it says it doesn't.

This problem seems not to be isolated. Hisense Thailand lists the A6500G as having Local Dimming. But the Thai manual does say the A6500G has Dolby Vision based on the Dolby logos at the end of the manual.
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Ah, sorry about that. A6500G runs android 9.0 therefore should have disney +. Or so I hope.
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post Jan 17 2022, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 17 2022, 05:15 PM)
TVs using Android OS can install Disney+ Hotstar and/or Disney+. You just have to use your Google account to set it up.
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Thanks for the feedback.

Do you have any experience in using the aforementioned a6500G Hisense model? I've not been able to find much info. It will be mostly used for Astro and I am wondering how well it will upscale SD content.
goldwave84
post Jan 18 2022, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 18 2022, 12:09 PM)
I don't have any experience with the A6500G.

It's 2022. LCD TVs have been around for over 20 years. TVs from the last 10 years would not screw up upscaling standard definition content. Whatever deficiencies you see in the image is the result of them being in standard definition. The lack of detail and color is still going to be there, just made bigger with the bigger screen. If you want to have an idea of what that looks like, just watch any music videos from the 90s that are not remastered to 1080p or 4K.

For example, Freedom 90 by George Michael. Shot on 35mm by David Fincher.


This version is mastered in standard definition at 480p. Betacam was the best they could do at the time to get it to cable and broadcast TV.


This version is mastered from the original 35mm neg to 4K. I'm sure they scanned it at higher than 4K and then printed the final video back to 35mm for archival purposes.

So don't worry too much about standard definition content on 4K TVs.

You said it in another thread that you want a TV to give to your mother-in-law. Most probably she won't notice much differences. Only you would be maybe notice it. If she actually can differentiate between OLED, QLED, local dimming and micro dimming, then you shouldn't be looking to buy her the A6500G.
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So to be fair, i know diff TV's use diff chips which upscale the content different / better. So just want to get the right model that upscales well or best.
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post Jan 19 2022, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 19 2022, 11:41 AM)
With the A6500G, you're not going to get the best because it's an entry level model. This is true if you buy from Hisense or Samsung. The better the processing, the higher the model in their range and the higher the price.

Upscaling is not just about the chip. It's all the related software that goes into processing the image. Different manufacturers have different ways of making it work.

RTings.com has published an article about upscaling tests they have conducted. You can see how each TV performs and how the higher their performance is, the higher level their product number and the bigger the price.The A6500G is not there obviously because RTings is in Canada. The closest in spec terms is the A6G.
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So after much deliberation, I opted for an LG. Reason is my mum in law is sceptical of unknown brands. However, thanks so much for the info.

I however am thinking of the A6500G 65 inch s it's going for 3.2k. Quite a steal for that size and features.

My heart however wants something more.....monster....hahaha.....LG C1
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post Jan 20 2022, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 19 2022, 09:56 PM)
If you can afford it, go for it.

You can get a 65" U7G for RM3900. So go for that instead of the A6500G.
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unfortunately its not an android os
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post Jan 20 2022, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 20 2022, 12:53 PM)
You can get a Tivo Stream 4K for RM210. The total cost is still cheaper than any other 65" FALD Android TVs.
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Hey, very good point! However since I plug it in to the box, do I loose some of the features of the main tv? like all the software features?
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post Jan 20 2022, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 20 2022, 03:43 PM)
What software features specifically? On the TV or on the Tivo?
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The TV
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post Jan 21 2022, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Iylia @ Jan 21 2022, 03:41 PM)
Any real-life reviews of the MY/SEA version of 65U7G?

The current price point of RM 3,900 is quite near the Sony X85J of RM 4,300. Considering either 2 of these models or whether to splurge more for the Sony X90J (RM 5,900)

Saw this review on YouTube which was quite positive (although may be sponsored)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdiUXc4fpo...nnel=AdamLoboTV
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Incremental increases in price always lead back to.....going for the best one. LG A1 65 inch is going for 7k+.
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post Jan 24 2022, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 23 2022, 03:48 PM)
Couch coop TV requirement is to get the biggest TV within your budget. PS5 Doom in 120 fps would be nice but not with the U7G, at least the international version.

If you have the budget for a 65" X90J, then go for that.

Hisense 2021 lineup is not for the high-end 4K market. They left that to go with 8K TVs and I don't know if that strategy is working for them. The U7G is for the mid-end market, for people who want quantum dot, FALD panels but not pay through the nose for it.

Many professional reviewers have said that X90J have better color accuracy out of the box. For average users, they won't know the difference. Most TVs sold at retail, including the big brands, are set at the Dynamic mode as their retail mode. Most users who set their TVs at home seem to prefer the garish dynamic look.

The X90J has better color accuracy. It doesn't have the quantum dot filter, which means it doesn't have a wider color gamut, for forever. You can't retrofit the quantum dot filter to it. The U7G has WCG out of the box. You can get the U7G professionally calibrated but...

Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months. If  professional equipment needs recalibrating, consumer grade equipment needs them too.

So what does this all mean? If you label yourself as demanding color accuracy, you need to tinker with your TV. Get a colorimeter - they usually come with the proper software -, find out your TV's secret menu and calibrate according to the schedule. If you are just an average user, you can use the AVS HD 709 videos and a blue filter to calibrate your TV.

If you just care about brands and models, then a mid-end Chinese brand is definitely not for you.
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Writesimply, you really know your stuff! Do you work in the A/V industry or have a pro HT set up at home?

 

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