Its all now depend on US Congress approval.

Indonesia is Asean taiko economically and military.

The american should have smell something

France !! Haha they are boneless spine !! Just a obedient Dog 🐶 infront of US. Btw Indon also getting Rafale too

I thought US only offered them F16
Then they go deal with France for Rafale.
Now US is considering selling the F15?
My guts feeling says it's one or the other.
Either F15 or Rafale

They are modernizing their military afterall, too many different types of jet wouldn't help them achieve that.

Jakarta, CNN Indonesia -- The Indonesian Air Force (TNI) has begun to procure the main equipment for the new modern weapon system (alutsista) until 2024. The Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Air Force (KSAU). Marshal Fadjar Prasetyo stated that several defense equipment to be purchased include the F-15 EX multirole combat aircraft and the Dassault Rafale fighter jet.

"From these various efforts, now there have been clear signs. Starting from this year until 2024, we will soon realize the acquisition of various modern defense equipment in stages," Fadjar said in his official statement during a speech at the Indonesian Air Force Rapim at the Indonesian Air Force Headquarters, Cilangkap, Jakarta. East, Friday (19/2).

The F-15 EX fighter jet made by Boeing and Rafale has long been the target of Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto.

The plan is to buy both fighter jets.
https://www.cnnindonesia.com/ekonomi/202102...-akan-dibeli-ri

If really Indon get both type of Jets !! Would be a boost to their airforce. But logistic wise (maintenance) hmmm

the technical side of me has always searching and looking at the latest technologies that can be fitted/implemented into.

For my alexLMS, although I have never said about this, I have been closely looking and studying about this technology since early this year. And I am amazed to see it included on this Damen concept.

If really Indon get both type of Jets !! Would be a boost to their airforce. But logistic wise (maintenance) hmmm

Do not look down on Indonesia.

Not to praise but it is true that American made jets last very long compared to Russian made jets.

Tudm F18D hornet were aquired in 1996. All Still flying well

Mig29 was aquired around 2007 to 2009. Where are the MIG29 now?

Do not look down on Indonesia.

Not to praise but it is true that American made jets last very long compared to Russian made jets.

Our F18D hornet were aquired in 1996. All Still flying fighthing well

Mig29 was aquired around 2007 to 2009 but all in muzuem since 2017 or 2018 😉

Binatang apa tu?

Well the design were fairly new i guess. It's wasn't in their website 6 month ago if not mistaken 

Kinda disappointed they didn't put the sea axe design upfront.

No Underestimate Indon capacities !!!!!!!! Just envy they !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Indon these few years very active in modernizing their defence capabilities !!! Whereas Our Country - well Busy Politics !!

not going to say much about that thing for now, but it is currently one of a future game changer on vessel hull hydrodynamics.

actually that thing at the back would function better on an axe bow because the hull does not pitch up and down much.
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anyway back on why not a sea axe bow on that corvette?

as with most things, there are advantage and disadvantage of any designs.

a normal bow is designed to ride above the waves. the hull will "plane" above the water at high speeds. disadvantage is that the pitch, up down motion of the bow is very pronounced.

the sea axe bow is designed to cut through the waves. pitching motion will be less on the way, creating a comfortable ride. but the design has a specific sweet spot for size and speed. anything above 60m the design is not very suitable for high speeds as the hull need to "cut" through the water, not "plane" above it. another disadvantage that many people does not like is that because it cuts through the waves, the ship at high speeds is very "wet" with all the heavy water spray created by the bow cutting through the waves. but in my opinion that is an advantage for small fast ship that is going to do FAC stuff. As the heavy water spray the axe bow creates will mask the true infrared signature of the ship, making using chaff flares to lure Imaging infrared sensor anti ship missiles much more effective.

New video of the KF-21 Boramae, the future fighter developed in South Korea

Por GASTÓN DUBOIS - 07/10/2021

The KF-21 Boramae is the new fighter aircraft jointly developed by South Korea and Indonesia, whose rollout took place on April 9 this year.

Its first flight is scheduled for 2022, but while we wait, the manufacturing company (KAI) released a promotional video in which, through computerized images, shows what the aircraft will look like and what mission profiles it will have.



It should be remembered that, although it may not look like it, the KF-21 Boramae is an aircraft that in its present incarnation belongs to the 4.5 generation of fighters, similar to a Super Hornet or Rafale. It is a twin-engine with an expected top speed of 2,200 km/h, a range of 2,900 km and a combat load of up to 7.7 tons.

But it is a design intended from the outset to evolve. It will be produced in successive blocks, which will incorporate new capabilities, with more advanced materials and construction techniques, which will bring this aircraft to the same level as 5th generation aircraft such as the F-35 (considered the de facto standard in this category).

However, KAI recently announced that the KF-21 Boramae will evolve beyond the current 5 Gen fighters to incorporate features of the 6th generation fighters currently under development.

In the video, you can see one of these features being developed in different programs around the world, which KAI also plans to equip the Boramae with. It is the ability to work in a man-machine partnership with unmanned combat aircraft, or drones.



The images show the KF-21 leading a formation of 3 unmanned aerial combat systems, whose stealth design is reminiscent of Russian company Mikoyan’s Skat project.

The drones will be commanded by the KF-21 pilot, who will designate targets and other aspects relevant to the mission, acting as an important force multiplier. These operations will demand the use of powerful Artificial Intelligence (AI), both in the unmanned systems and in the KF-21, a disruptive technology that the 6th generation fighters have incorporated since their conception.

the technical side of me has always searching and looking at the latest technologies that can be fitted/implemented into.

For my alexLMS, although I have never said about this, I have been closely looking and studying about this technology since early this year. And I am amazed to see it included on this Damen concept.

Well, don't overestimated them then 😉

While our politikus are disinterest their politicians give impression that's they going to get everything under the sun. Doubt they going to get 30ffm  on top of fremm nor Rafale on top of f15. It would likely be one or the other, rather than both.

Well, don't overestimated them then 😉

While our politikus are disinterest their politicians give impression that's they going to get everything under the sun. Doubt they going to get 30ffm  on top of fremm nor Rafale on top of f15. It would likely be one or the other, rather than both.

ndonesia reveals USD125 billion military modernisation plan
by Jon Grevatt & Andrew MacDonald Jun 1, 2021, 11:12 AM

A draft regulation from Indonesia’s presidential office has outlined the requirement for investment of USD125 billion in military modernisation through to the mid-2040s....

A draft regulation from Indonesia’s presidential office has outlined the requirement for investment of USD125 billion in military modernisation through to the mid-2040s. The funding proposal is indicative of Indonesia’s military ambitions and its growing concerns about regional security.

The draft regulation – entitled ‘Fulfilling the Defence and Security Equipment Needs of the Ministry of Defence and Indonesian Armed Forces (TNI) 2020-24’ – was issued recently but requires various approvals from ministries and the House of Representatives before enactment. The investment plan also highlights Indonesia’s continuing dependency on foreign loans.

Indonesia has stated a requirement for funding worth USD125 billion in military investment through to the mid-2040s. The country’s modernisation requirements are thought to include Lockheed Martin F-16V fighter aircraft.  (Lockheed Martin)
Indonesia has stated a requirement for funding worth USD125 billion in military investment through to the mid-2040s. The country’s modernisation requirements are thought to include Lockheed Martin F-16V fighter aircraft. (Lockheed Martin)

The proposed regulation details the requirement for USD124.9 billion for TNI modernisation funding over a period of five ‘strategic plans’ each lasting five years. The first strategic plan runs 2020–24 and coincides with the final phase of the TNI’s Minimum Essential Force (MEF) programme, while the last will be 2040–44.

The document proposes funding of USD79 billion for defence equipment during this 25-year period, USD32.5 billion for sustainment, and the remaining USD13.4 billion for interest payments on foreign loans.

The regulation prioritises sourcing TNI modernisation requirements from local industry. However, it states, “In the event that domestic products cannot be [procured], then foreign products can be used.”

When defence equipment is imported, the regulation identifies the requirement to enforce “technology transfers and offsets” to support local industry’s involvement in the procurement. This industrial strategy also includes the provision of countertrade through which Indonesia seeks to export local commodities in part exchange for materiel.

This is ID long term modernization plan. Maybe it can give us something to think. Lets.focus on the amount of money.